The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese


The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese

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afromanGT wrote:
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Im sure most married couples wouldn't if be impressed if they knew their other halves went to some strip club and got a lap dance.

There was never any report that Rudd actually bought a dance. So you're making inferences there.
You're also making inferences about what his wife thinks. Just because your other half (if you have one) doesn't approve doesn't mean that all married women disapprove. Hell, several married women I know are dancers themselves.

Stop applying your prudish standards to everyone else.
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This post is a big hint to me that you work in a Sex shop.

I manage a nightclub. But good job making further inferences and looking like a fuckwit.

When did I say all married women disapprove? There you go again , putting words in my mouth.
You need someone to proof read these posts here for you so you don't look like a goose.

Edited by SocaWho: 23/5/2014 04:02:56 PM

Ok, so far you have:
- Falsely accused Kevin Rudd of buying a dance.
- Falsely claimed that his wife, and/or munrubenmuz's wife would have a problem with them going to the strippers
- Falsely claimed that I said strippers don't show any skin and that strip clubs are like libraries
- Falsely claimed that I work in a sex shop
- Falsely claimed that there's a level of double standards at play

And now you're accusing ME of putting worse in YOUR mouth.

Ok...ill end this right now by saying.."going to a strip joint is not sleazy"...happy now? :lol:

Talk about getting worked up over nothing..:roll:

Edited by SocaWho: 23/5/2014 04:14:26 PM

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Munrubenmuz wrote:
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Nah nothing sleazy about a married man going to a strip club


Whoops. Paint me sleazy then.

Haha. don't worry its not called cheating until you get caught in the act.:lol:


Seriously I don't make a habit of going but if you spend years knocking around the traps like I have occasionally you get dragged into them by your stupid mates or your business colleagues.

It's not my go but it's a big, big world and who am I to judge.

The missus didn't care. (Here's a tip for young players. Get on the front foot and say you went rather than have her hear from some other source you've been otherwise you'll look like you have something to hide.)



Edited by munrubenmuz: 23/5/2014 04:00:17 PM

Thats alright mate, as long she doesn't care then it doesn't matter.
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I worked in a sex shop once. Well for 6 weekends back in the early, early 90's before I got full time work in my field.

Applied for a storeman and packers job only to be told because I was older than 18 that they could get someone cheaper. Then the bloke asked me if I was interested in working in a shop, at this stage I had no idea what the company did, and I said yeah alright.

Then old mate tells me it's for Club X up the Cross and in George St. Well bloody hell that was a bit of a turn up.

But what are you going to when you don't have money to pay the rent, pick and choose?

Tony would be proud of me. Earning or learning. Bloody hell maybe I should sign up for the libs.

Nowhere near as exciting as it sounds. Basically I read the newspaper for 8 hours and ran the cash register.

The funny thing was I had a 50% discount on anything in the store. ANYTHING! But I was too young, stupid and naive to buy half a dozen mad vibrators and dildos and just bought condoms instead.

If only I had that discount now.


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Munrubenmuz wrote:
The funny thing was I had a 50% discount on anything in the store. ANYTHING! But I was too young, stupid and naive to buy half a dozen mad vibrators and dildos and just bought condoms instead.

If only I had that discount now.

Careful the Socawho moral police might arrest you :lol:

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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SocaWho wrote:
Ok...ill end this right now by saying.."going to a strip joint is not sleazy"...happy now? :lol:

Talk about getting worked up over nothing..:roll:

Edited by SocaWho: 23/5/2014 04:14:26 PM

Edited by SocaWho: 23/5/2014 04:17:33 PM

Please just take your stupidity back to AF where it's common place and nobody bats an eyelid instead of spouting it here and giving us all a headache.
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Munrubenmuz wrote:


Nowhere near as exciting as it sounds. Basically I read the newspaper for 8 hours and ran the cash register.

this quote made my day hahaha :d :d :d :d

Must have been a bloody big newspaper.


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mcjules wrote:
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The funny thing was I had a 50% discount on anything in the store. ANYTHING! But I was too young, stupid and naive to buy half a dozen mad vibrators and dildos and just bought condoms instead.

If only I had that discount now.

Careful the Socawho moral police might arrest you :lol:

Nah.:lol:
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SocaWho wrote:
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Nowhere near as exciting as it sounds. Basically I read the newspaper for 8 hours and ran the cash register.

this quote made my day hahaha :d :d :d :d

Must have been a bloody big newspaper.


Edited by SocaWho: 23/5/2014 04:38:00 PM


Well I worked weekends you see and if you've ever worked in Sydney you'll know the weekend papers are the size of telephone books.

Really the thrill of a few stick mags to peruse wears off pretty quick in that environment.



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Munrubenmuz wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
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Nowhere near as exciting as it sounds. Basically I read the newspaper for 8 hours and ran the cash register.

this quote made my day hahaha :d :d :d :d

Must have been a bloody big newspaper.


Edited by SocaWho: 23/5/2014 04:38:00 PM


Well I worked weekends you see and if you've ever worked in Sydney you'll know the weekend papers are the size of telephone books.

Really the thrill of a few stick mags to peruse wears off pretty quick in that environment.

Must have been exciting as young fella just turning 18 working in a place like that . You must have been the envy of your friends. :lol:
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ABC showing disgraceful Right-Wing bias.

http://delimiter.com.au/2014/05/23/abc-delayed-albericis-pro-nbn-article-election/

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ABC delayed Alberici’s pro-NBN article until after the election

news The ABC delayed publishing an article by Lateline co-host Emma Alberici starkly critical of the Coalition’s rival National Broadband Network policy until after the election, it has emerged, as questions continue to be raised about the public broadcaster’s coverage of Australia’s largest ever infrastructure project.

Under Labor’s previous NBN policy, some 93 percent of Australian premises were to have received fibre directly to the premises, with the remainder of the population to have been served by a combination of satellite and wireless broadband. However, the Coalition’s alternative vision unveiled in April 2013 featured a significant watering down of the project and a focus on technically inferior Fibre to the Node technology. It has since been watered down further, with an extended focus on re-using the existing HFC cable networks owned by Telstra and Optus.

The Coalition’s approach to the issue has sparked extreme criticism from telecommunications industry experts as well as the general population. In January, for instance, veteran telecommunications analyst Paul Budde described the Coalition’s new “Multi-Technology Mix” approach as “a dog’s breakfast” of different technologies, which could turn out to be a “logistical nightmare” to deliver in practice. Some 272,000 Australians have signed a record-breaking petition requesting the Coalition reconsider its plans.

Despite the controversy, an analysis conducted by Delimiter of the NBN-related coverage of three of the ABC’s top flagship current affairs programs over the past 18 months has found that only one — Lateline — covers the issue regularly or in any detail, while others such as 7:30 and Q&A have almost completely ignored the issue in that period. The issue has been shut down live on air on Q&A several times.

Following the analysis, this week it emerged that the ABC delayed publishing until after the Federal Election last year an article by Lateline co-host Emma Alberici that was sharply critical of the Coalition’s alternative National Broadband Network policy and ended up being one of the broadcaster’s most popular pieces of content on the topic.

The piece, entitled ‘Can the Coalition’s NBN keep pace with change?’ appears to have initially been written in August or early September 2013.

Alberici was actively engaged in researching the NBN topic at that time due to a live debate which the Lateline co-host was scheduled to host between Communications Minister and Deputy Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and then-Shadow Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull on 12 August.

Alberici’s engagement with the two politicians during the debate was highly informed by that research, with the journalist pushing both strongly with respect to their different NBN policies during the debate. It appears that this interest in the NBN topic spilled over into a commentary (opinion/analysis) article which Alberici sought to publish on the ABC’s The Drum site, as senior ABC regularly do. Alberici is a regular contributor to the site.

However, Delimiter understands that when Alberici sought to publish the article, a discussion ensued within the ABC about the piece. It is not clear why the article was delayed, but several sources agree that the ABC delayed publishing the article for a period likely to have been at least a week and perhaps more.

The timing of the publication was sensitive due to the political circumstances at the time. Last year’s Federal Election was held on September 7; a month after the NBN debate on Lateline on 12 August. Alberici’s article was published on the morning of September 9: The Monday morning after the Coalition swept to victory in the Saturday election.

Delimiter asked a spokesperson from the ABC whether they could confirm that the article’s publication was delayed, and to comment on why the delay took place. The spokesperson sent a broader statement responding to issues raised about the ABC’s NBN coverage in general (which will be published in full on Monday), but did not specifically address the question about Alberici’s article.

The article, when published, was severely critical of the Coalition’s rival NBN policy, with Alberici unfavourably comparing the Coalition’s FTTN focus to technically superior FTTP deployments in cities such as Chattanooga in Tennessee. The Lateline co-host wrote:
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“The question the Coalition will need to answer now they’ve taken Government is whether digital innovation will be moving faster than Australia’s capacity, through their cut-price NBN infrastructure, to benefit from it … Mr Turnbull is adamant that it’s “very unlikely” Australians will need 1 gigabit of download speeds. That’s what they said about the World Wide Web.”


It was received very favourably by the ABC’s audience, with 562 comments published, many of which supported Alberici’s views. NBN articles in general tend to receive a great deal of audience attention when published on the Drum; several articles published by the author of this article in March and April 2013 received 537 and 432 comments respectively, indicating strong audience interest on the topic. Alberici also received strong support for the article on social media.

The unusual timing of the article was noted at the time by some readers. “Good article, but why wait til after the election?” wrote one Twitter user.

In addition, Alberici personally continues to express criticism of the Coalition’s NBN approach. On 14 April this year, the Lateline co-host wrote on her Twitter account that Turnbull had said gigabit broadband speeds were “more than anyone would need”. “How can you be so sure?” she asked, referring to the Chattanooga example. Also in April this year, Alberici tweeted that she was working on a segment on the NBN for the ABC’s 702 Local Radio station in Sydney.

Delimiter’s analysis of Lateline’s NBN-related coverage over the past 18 months has shown that the show covers the NBN issue much more extensively and in what appears to be a more balanced fashion, than some of the other flagship current affairs shows at the ABC. 7:30, for example, has not covered the NBN as a specific topic yet in 2014, and ignored the topic in 2013 in seven out of twelve months in 2013. Coverage of the NBN topic during other months by 7:30 was typically largely limited to major announcements regarding the project, or Coalition criticism of Labor’s administration of the project.

In comparison, over the past 18 months, Lateline has covered the issue much more frequently and has covered criticism of the Coalition’s unpopular NBN alternative policy in significantly greater depth.

However, there have also been questions raised about Lateline’s coverage of the issue. On 10 April this year, NBN Co announced that it had turfed at least three key executives at the company after just one week of new chief executive Bill Morrow being in his role, with long-time and respected NBN Co head of corporate and commercial Kevin Brown, chief financial officer Robin Payne and chief technology officer Gary McLaren to leave NBN Co.

That night, host Tony Jones hosted a lengthy interview with Turnbull on Lateline. Jones strongly pushed Turnbull on a range of issues associated with the NBN — including the issue of whether rival telcos such as TPG should be allowed to overbuild the NBN network and the drastically watered down speeds possible under the Coalition’s version of the project.

However, Jones commenced the interview by asking about unrelated issues such as the release of the diaries of former NSW Premier and Foreign Minister Bob Carr, as well as proposed changes to the Racial Discrimination Act. In addition, Jones did not ask Turnbull about the executives who had lost their roles at NBN Co.

Throughout 2013 Jones held several other interviews with Turnbull on Lateline in which he pressured the Member for Wentworth on the NBN issue.

However, it does not appear as though Jones was similarly active in interviewing figures from the other major side of politics — Labor — with co-host Alberici appearing to conduct most of the interviews or debates in that period which involved Labor politicians critical of the Coalition’s policy such as Senator Stephen Conroy (Communications Minister for much of 2013), his successor Anthony Albanese and Labor MP Ed Husic, who also retains a strong interest in the NBN and technology issues.

The news comes as it appears that other journalists at the ABC interested in the NBN issue have changed the way they cover the issue.

In general, the only other ABC journalist to have regularly covered criticisms of the Coalition’s NBN policy over the past several years has been Nick Ross, the Editor of the broadcaster’s Technology + Games site.

Ross’s articles in 2012 and 2013 had been very positively received by Australia’s technology sector, in a media environment in which few journalists have challenged disputed claims the Coalition has made regarding the NBN. In addition, other media outlets had started to use Ross’s work as a basis for investigating the differences between the two policies.

However, subsequent to his publication of several such articles, in mid-2012 Ross was attacked heavily on the issue by Turnbull, who accused the journalist of creating “relentless propaganda” to support Labor’s NBN project. Ross was also strongly attacked for the coverage by The Australian newspaper, which was sharply critical of Labor’s NBN project while Labor was in Government.

The ABC’s own Media Watch investigated Ross’ coverage in March 2013, largely vindicating Ross’s approach (with a few caveats). Host Jonathan Holmes found that Ross, using his expertise and specialist knowledge of the NBN topic, had delivered analysis grounded in reporting work, using hundreds of reports and other sources; and had no political affiliations to weigh him down. In addition, he noted that mainstream media outlets such as The Australian Financial Review and The Australian newspapers had taken a broadly negative approach to the NBN; in contrast, he noted strong ABC reader support for Ross’s work.

However, since the Media Watch episode investigating his NBN articles, Ross has largely ceased covering the NBN project in the lengthy analysis style he had been using previously. It is not clear why.

One of the only other ABC journalists to regularly raise the issue of the NBN over the past several years has been Jake Sturmer, who from February through December 2013 was the broadcaster’s national science and technology reporter.

During his time in the role, Sturmer published a number of articles examining issues such as doubts over whether Telstra’s copper network could meet the needs of the Coalition’s rival NBN policy. Sturmer also covered NBN Co’s Strategic Review and its conclusion that the Coalition’s election policy of delivering 25Mbps broadband to all Australians by the end of 2016 was unrealistic.

However, it appears as though Sturmer was reassigned in January this year, as his LinkedIn profile now states he is the ABC’s national environment and science reporter. The journalist still reports for many of the same outlets — ABC News, 7:30, Lateline and the AM and PM radio shows — but his beat no longer explicitly covers technology, and Sturmer has largely ceased covering the NBN project.

Due to Sturmer’s role change, Delimiter asked the ABC this week whether it currently employed any journalists dedicated to covering the technology area. “Nick Ross is the ABC’s technology editor, a respected and dedicated journalist in this area,” the outlet responded.

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lol according to the left Rudd going to a strip club is fine, but Abbott winking is a hanging offence
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lukerobinho wrote:
lol according to the left Rudd going to a strip club is fine, but Abbott winking is a hanging offence

Kevin Rudd wasn't belittling the negative experiences and questioning from one of his constituents at the time of the event.
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lukerobinho wrote:
lol according to the left Rudd going to a strip club is fine, but Abbott winking is a hanging offence

If it was Abbott that went to a strip club , it would be considered a UN war crime and equivalent to genocide whereas if it was Rudd he would be seen as just a normal knockabout bloke.:lol:
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afromanGT wrote:
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lol according to the left Rudd going to a strip club is fine, but Abbott winking is a hanging offence

Kevin Rudd wasn't belittling the negative experiences and questioning from one of his constituents at the time of the event.

Yeah true I agree with you along with most...but Im sure some air hostesses might not share the same point of view though.

But you know some people just happen to turn a blind eye depending on who it is....its a free country you're allowed to do that though.

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...of the meme poster
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SocaWho wrote:
lukerobinho wrote:
lol according to the left Rudd going to a strip club is fine, but Abbott winking is a hanging offence

If it was Abbott that went to a strip club , it would be considered a UN war crime and equivalent to genocide whereas if it was Rudd he would be seen as just a normal knockabout bloke.:lol:

There's nothing wrong with going to a strip club. Regardless of which side of politics you're from. But there is something wrong with responding to a question in a manner which would be expected from an immature high school student.
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afromanGT wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
lukerobinho wrote:
lol according to the left Rudd going to a strip club is fine, but Abbott winking is a hanging offence

If it was Abbott that went to a strip club , it would be considered a UN war crime and equivalent to genocide whereas if it was Rudd he would be seen as just a normal knockabout bloke.:lol:

There's nothing wrong with going to a strip club. Regardless of which side of politics you're from. But there is something wrong with responding to a question in a manner which would be expected from an immature high school student.

Im not condoning Abbott for what he did and yes what he did was not right, but the backlash he is copping is on par with a someone copping flak for a crime worthy of capital punishment. He even apologised today on the Today show, but people want to keep bringing it up.
My point is there is more important things to worry about.

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afromanGT wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
lukerobinho wrote:
lol according to the left Rudd going to a strip club is fine, but Abbott winking is a hanging offence

If it was Abbott that went to a strip club , it would be considered a UN war crime and equivalent to genocide whereas if it was Rudd he would be seen as just a normal knockabout bloke.:lol:

There's nothing wrong with going to a strip club. Regardless of which side of politics you're from. But there is something wrong with responding to a question in a manner which would be expected from an immature high school student.


you're out of your mind
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SocaWho wrote:
My point is there is more important things to worry about.


I agree.

Things like an Austerity budget that has already driven down market confidence and will push Australia towards recession because of a flawed ideology that thrives on demonstrably non working philosophy, such as "trickle down" economics.
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SocaWho wrote:
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lol according to the left Rudd going to a strip club is fine, but Abbott winking is a hanging offence

If it was Abbott that went to a strip club , it would be considered a UN war crime and equivalent to genocide whereas if it was Rudd he would be seen as just a normal knockabout bloke.:lol:

There's nothing wrong with going to a strip club. Regardless of which side of politics you're from. But there is something wrong with responding to a question in a manner which would be expected from an immature high school student.

Im not condoning Abbott for what he did and yes what he did was not right, but the backlash he is copping is on par with a someone copping flak for a crime worthy of capital punishment. He even apologised today on the Today show, but people want to keep bringing it up.
My point is there is more important things to worry about.

Edited by SocaWho: 23/5/2014 10:58:08 PM

There's a very simple reason for that, if he can't be serious about the questioning on radio which he's voluntarily submitted to from an anonymous caller then how on earth is he meant to be serious with the questioning of his mistakes from more significant people in greater mediums?

Not only is it immature, insincere and disrespectful but it also raises serious doubts about the worthiness of a leader which the entire country is already raising serious questions about.
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With this budget there has been a lot of garbage being sold. Not only that the only way to fix the budget is to savage the poor, but that savaging the poor will make us all more prosperous.

This is very disturbing to me having lived a lot of my life in the USA and this is the same story told in the USA all the time despite taxes, welfare payments, union density, progressivity of tax rates having no correlation with gdp per capita growth either in data I have worked out for myself or analysis other people have done that I have seen. It worries me to hear people parrot this stuff in Australia because they have probably have no idea what its like being in an unequal country like the usa. Its easy for inequality to sound abstract and less important than the economy. So I thought I would share a few stories out of my own personal experience

I know one woman who got raped as a teenager and had a baby - she is a close friend. She had a dream to be a librarian and was quite academically gifted but she decided to keep the child because, despite not being religious, her conscience forbid her from having an abortion. Later on she got married and she works 3 jobs and her husband one - both are full time in one of their jobs and are above minimum wage. Yet despite working 60 hours a week and her husband working a comparable amount they can't afford to feed to feed their family. They buy all their groceries at walmart where the food is so cheep, fake and inedible that their whole house smells sickly when they cook.
One Lady I know well just collapsed while I was talking to her and I took her to hospital. She was in the emergency room for 12 hours with me and got barely any treatment despite being fully insured. She only got visited just before dawn and then all they did was put a saline drip in her, check on her a few hours later and then send her home. Her deductible was $1500. Later her car was towed at her expense by a gas company who were making repairs despite her being legally parked. We wanted to know if that was legal for the gas company to do this but it would have cost more than the towing to get such advice.
Another friend got an operation which was botched and their deductible was $6000 and they later found out it was botched. Everyone insists here it is the best health care system in the world. It isn't even the best if you are rich
Regularly I talk to homeless people and I am shocked at how they differ from Australian homeless people. The homeless seem much more rare in Australia and they are usually so mentally unwell they are difficult to talk to. Here you meet normal people that are homeless.
One of my most striking experiences was a friend of mine who had to move to Australia with their husband for their high paying job. After some years here the husband had to move back to America for their job and she started freaking out because she had grown accustomed to the superior lifestyle we have here. Even though she was paid highly in both oz and the usa the lifestyle was so much better here she actually divorced her husband rather than go back. So I suppose socialism does break up marriages....as tragic as any story of divorce is, it drove home the difference between a radically unequal society and an egalitarian society like ours. Amazingly even the reasonably wealthy are better off. The difference cannot be understated

It is nonsense we have a debt crisis. It is nonsense that the deficit can only be reduced by spending cuts. It is nonsense that we have to target the poor for heavy lifting. It is nonsense that we have a better society if we neglect the poor. I hope many of the undecided read this and consider what society we want to become

I don't think there is a debt crisis. I agree. The debt is low. But you don't want to have the debt so large that the interest becomes unpayable.


Here is a budget interactive for other ways of reducing the debt (though it doesn't include every option I would include)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2014/may/09/budget-cuts-revenue-interactive

Its pretty easy to get a surplus without hurting anyone
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grazorblade wrote:
Here is a budget interactive for other ways of reducing the debt (though it doesn't include every option I would include)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2014/may/09/budget-cuts-revenue-interactive

Its pretty easy to get a surplus without hurting anyone


Hey, look at that, I saved $225b without requiring a $6 Copayment.

I did have a few consequences, though. Everyone has to do their part, etc.

Could force poor retirees out of their home in order to qualify for pension
Lower payments for low-income and sole-parent families
Australia's defence capabilities not as strong as they otherwise would've been
People change their behaviour and invest their money in other tax minimisaton schemes
The Government claims the carbon price is having a detrimental effect on the economy
Aged pension grows more slowly over time.
People change their behaviour and invest their money in other tax minimisaton schemes
Poorer households worse off, as they spend more of their income on fuel
Could force poor retirees out of their home in order to qualify for pension
Reduced profits for pharmacies, political battle against large pharma companies
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afromanGT wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
lukerobinho wrote:
lol according to the left Rudd going to a strip club is fine, but Abbott winking is a hanging offence

If it was Abbott that went to a strip club , it would be considered a UN war crime and equivalent to genocide whereas if it was Rudd he would be seen as just a normal knockabout bloke.:lol:

There's nothing wrong with going to a strip club. Regardless of which side of politics you're from. But there is something wrong with responding to a question in a manner which would be expected from an immature high school student.

Im not condoning Abbott for what he did and yes what he did was not right, but the backlash he is copping is on par with a someone copping flak for a crime worthy of capital punishment. He even apologised today on the Today show, but people want to keep bringing it up.
My point is there is more important things to worry about.

Edited by SocaWho: 23/5/2014 10:58:08 PM

There's a very simple reason for that, if he can't be serious about the questioning on radio which he's voluntarily submitted to from an anonymous caller then how on earth is he meant to be serious with the questioning of his mistakes from more significant people in greater mediums?

Not only is it immature, insincere and disrespectful but it also raises serious doubts about the worthiness of a leader which the entire country is already raising serious questions about.

The guy said sorry....is that not good enough for you?...what should he do next?....resign?....or maybe he should hand himself over to police. lol


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SocaWho wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
lukerobinho wrote:
lol according to the left Rudd going to a strip club is fine, but Abbott winking is a hanging offence

If it was Abbott that went to a strip club , it would be considered a UN war crime and equivalent to genocide whereas if it was Rudd he would be seen as just a normal knockabout bloke.:lol:

There's nothing wrong with going to a strip club. Regardless of which side of politics you're from. But there is something wrong with responding to a question in a manner which would be expected from an immature high school student.

Im not condoning Abbott for what he did and yes what he did was not right, but the backlash he is copping is on par with a someone copping flak for a crime worthy of capital punishment. He even apologised today on the Today show, but people want to keep bringing it up.
My point is there is more important things to worry about.

Edited by SocaWho: 23/5/2014 10:58:08 PM

There's a very simple reason for that, if he can't be serious about the questioning on radio which he's voluntarily submitted to from an anonymous caller then how on earth is he meant to be serious with the questioning of his mistakes from more significant people in greater mediums?

Not only is it immature, insincere and disrespectful but it also raises serious doubts about the worthiness of a leader which the entire country is already raising serious questions about.

The guy said sorry....is that not good enough for you?...what should he do next?....resign?....or maybe he should hand himself over to police. lol


Being a fuckwit isn't against the law.

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Socawho proving the theory that parrots always copy :lol:
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SocaWho wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
SocaWho wrote:
lukerobinho wrote:
lol according to the left Rudd going to a strip club is fine, but Abbott winking is a hanging offence

If it was Abbott that went to a strip club , it would be considered a UN war crime and equivalent to genocide whereas if it was Rudd he would be seen as just a normal knockabout bloke.:lol:

There's nothing wrong with going to a strip club. Regardless of which side of politics you're from. But there is something wrong with responding to a question in a manner which would be expected from an immature high school student.

Im not condoning Abbott for what he did and yes what he did was not right, but the backlash he is copping is on par with a someone copping flak for a crime worthy of capital punishment. He even apologised today on the Today show, but people want to keep bringing it up.
My point is there is more important things to worry about.

Edited by SocaWho: 23/5/2014 10:58:08 PM

There's a very simple reason for that, if he can't be serious about the questioning on radio which he's voluntarily submitted to from an anonymous caller then how on earth is he meant to be serious with the questioning of his mistakes from more significant people in greater mediums?

Not only is it immature, insincere and disrespectful but it also raises serious doubts about the worthiness of a leader which the entire country is already raising serious questions about.

The guy said sorry....is that not good enough for you?...what should he do next?....resign?....or maybe he should hand himself over to police. lol


The Kobe Bryant defence doesn't work in politics.
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Tony Abbott talks double dissolution in fight over budget


Prime minister admits some compromise is necessary but insists he will stick with difficult and unpopular measures

Guardian Australia and Australian Associated Press


theguardian.com, Saturday 24 May 2014 15.19 AEST   


Tony Abbott has raised the prospect of a double dissolution election as he insisted his unpopular budget would pass through Australia's parliament but admitted compromises with other parties might be needed.


Senior government ministers had signalled compromising on key budget reforms such as higher education interest rates and the GP co-payment amidst a fierce public backlash and hostility in the Senate.


The education minister, Christopher Pyne, who faced a slew of student protests during the week over university deregulation, signalled concessions on some reforms. He said it was in recognition the government did not have a majority in the upper house.


"We will, of course, seek to consult and negotiate with the minor parties and the crossbenches to ensure these important reforms are delivered," Pyne said.


Last week Abbott appeared to back away from a threat to hold a double dissolution election after earlier signalling that incoming Senate cross-benchers would be unlikely to keep their seats if there was an election.


But on Saturday he said he would not surrender his budget and there was an "iron necessity" for sticking with difficult and unpopular measures. "We are not going to surrender our budget commitments," he said.


Compromises were inevitable, though, he said. "You have got to negotiate your legislation through the parliament."


Abbott said he was confident the government would get the budget through the Senate in the end, because the alternative would be a double dissolution election.


"Because let's face it, there have been many governments over many years that have had to negotiate budgets through the Senate.


"The only time that wasn't successfully done ... that was a different bill in 1975."


Labor, the Greens and the Palmer United party had vowed to block changes such as the GP co-payment and pension cuts.


Pyne said the university sector was being consulted to "refine the details" of the changes to higher education, with two education groups providing feedback.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/24/tony-abbott-talks-double-dissolution-in-fight-over-budget
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"Tony Abbott admits he's about to throw away government."
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