The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese


The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese

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notorganic wrote:
Q&A was awful last night.

I don't mind a conservative viewpoint, but so many false things on debt, economy, secularity and climate change went unanswered last night from Bernardi and the awful conservative pundit who I had never heard of before. Seems like the ABC are trying to take the attention off them by skewing things too far to the right.

He writes for the oz . So a small number have heard of him . He was a look at me type born to rule idiot .
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imonfourfourtwo wrote:
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Just on the goings on down in Victoria I think the ALP is in a sticky situation. They could go for an election now and make the most of the current angst against all things Liberal, but this will tie them to the idiot Shaw. Or they can team up with the govt and kick Shaw out, most likely giving them the numbers to call an election anyway (but by then who know what will happen).


Shaw has to go. There's really no need for anyone to get in bed with him with the election so close.


Yeah I think there needs to be an agreement that for the good of whoever may hold government by the end of the year, the two parties need to kick the grub out. Would do the reputation of everyone in parliament good if they got rid of a lunatic instead of jumping at a political opportunity.


Didnt nap thine distanced himself away from shaw today?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3EBUV4bwiQ

andrew wilkie will block supply

I expect greens to join him
I expect Labour to try and drag this out as long as possible and see if they can do as much damage in the polls as they can first
pup are the wild card
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I've always seen Turnbull as a self-aggrandising, up-himself, self-centred equivocating grub. Nothing so far has changed my mind.

Would make a wonderful Labor politician.

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LNP going to have to put out spot fires everywhere.

Good to see Newman is keen to sell all the assets lol.

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notorganic wrote:
Q&A was awful last night.

I don't mind a conservative viewpoint, but so many false things on debt, economy, secularity and climate change went unanswered last night from Bernardi and the awful conservative pundit who I had never heard of before. Seems like the ABC are trying to take the attention off them by skewing things too far to the right.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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John Oliver's Last Week Tonight has just ripped right into Tony.

[youtube]c3IaKVmkXuk[/youtube]


Gold =d> =d> =d>

Love it. \:d/

Do New Zealand next!
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When life imitates art.

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Health department officials only began work on the $20 billion Medical Research Future Fund in April, just weeks before it was announced in the budget.

Labor seized on the evidence, given to a Senate hearing on Monday, to claim the fund was set up to distract voters from the $7 fee for GP visits and cuts to hospitals.

"The policy development process reads more like a script for The Hollowmen than the way an 'adult government' conducts itself," Labor's health spokeswoman Catherine King said.

In the satirical TV series, political staffers concerned about the lack of a budget centrepiece decide at the last minute to create a $150 billion National Perpetual Endowment Fund to meet the nation's future challenges.

"The best part of it is, we'll never have to specify how it will all work," the character of central policy unit director David "Murph" Murphy, played by Lachy Hulme, says in the Rear Vision episode.

The similarity between the Coalition policy and The Hollowmen episode is not lost on Rob Sitch, one of the creators and stars of the show.

"When the budget came out, it was like they'd watched the show and gone, 'That's actually a really good idea'," Mr Sitch told a recent Melbourne Press Club event.

The Abbott government plans to invest savings from health measures, including the $7 Medicare fee and cuts to hospital funding into the medical research fund until it reaches a balance of $20 billion, which is expected in 2020. The capital of the fund will be protected but earnings – which are expected to reach $1 billion a year by 2022 – will be allocated to medical research.

Health department secretary Jane Halton told the hearing the details of what sort of research would be eligible for funding had not been determined.

Professor Halton said the government had expressed a willingness to consider using the money to support clinical trials, but it had not been determined whether the money would fund preventive health research, or work to convert basic science findings into useful applications.

Questioned in Parliament on Monday about the process for developing the fund, Prime Minister Tony Abbott said it was based on other endowment funds "for which there is an abundance of precedent in Australian government".

"I think the Leader of the Opposition is trying to suggest that somehow a six-week gestation period was inadequate — this from a political party that cooked up the National Broadband Network on the back of a coaster on a VIP flight. Really and truly!" he said.

These comments were echoed by Treasurer Jo Hockey on Tuesday, who called Labor claims about the medical fund being rushed "another Labor con".

"Given that there is now an inquiry into the Pink Batts program, given that Labor designed the NBN on the back of a coaster, designed "Ruddbank" on the back of a coaster, I don't think they're in any position to criticise us for having six weeks of work by public servants."

The government has said the creation of the fund hinges on its health savings getting through Parliament. But the $7 Medicare fee appears unlikely to pass the Senate, with Labor, the Greens and the Palmer United Party vehemently opposed to the measure.

Interviewed on ABC TV on Monday night, Chief Scientist Ian Chubb revealed he had not been consulted about the fund before it was announced in the budget.

‘‘I didn't have any role in it,’’ Professor Chubb said.

Professor Chubb said he did not know where the government had sought advice on the fund.

‘‘I presume that it sought it from the Department of Health, from the National Health and Medical Research Council. I presume that it talked to people within the research sector and perhaps outside the research sector with an interest in the outcomes of medical research. But I didn't talk to them.’’

Professor Chubb said he would have liked to have had input into the policy, and if he had been asked for his advice he would have counselled the government ‘‘not to make it too narrow’’.

‘‘Not to restrict it to a point where, for example, what it ends up doing is adding a few more tens of thousands of dollars to individual research grants or funds a few more research grants, that there are some big things that we need to do. We need to be able to fund clinical trials on a scale, we need to translate the results of medical research into patient care.

"We've not been terribly good at that. We're getting better at it. We start from a pretty low base and this might well be an opportunity to do things in areas and on a scale that we haven't been able to do before. And if we can do that, then it'll be good.’’

Asked why the government didn't consult Professor Chubb on the fund before it was announced, Health Minister Peter Dutton said: ‘‘It’s not a reflection on individuals, but governments have decisions to make.’’

‘‘We’ve consulted with many people. In the end I think we’ve taken what many researchers have described as a visionary decision and I think it will be in decades to come hailed as one of the great outcomes of this period,’’ he told reporters in Canberra on Tuesday.

On Monday Professor Halton also confirmed changes to hospital funding arrangements announced in the budget would result in the Commonwealth paying the states $55 billion less over the next decade than they had been promised by Labor.

But Professor Halton rejected the suggestion by Greens senator Richard di Natale that the cuts would have an impact on services, likening them to an "efficiency dividend".

“The reality is, you would expect people to be able to drive that level of efficiency,” Professor Halton said.

“These are large businesses… I actually do not accept that you cannot drive that amount of efficiency.”

Responding to the comments outside the hearing, Senator di Natale said: “Ripping out $50 billion won't make hospitals more efficient, it will just deny treatment to many people in need.”

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbotts-hollowmen-moment-was-medical-research-fund-a-lastminute-distraction-20140603-39fl8.html#ixzz33dS8FoR3



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Here you go. Watch and be amazed.

[youtube]TWORTz_Izh8[/youtube]


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imonfourfourtwo wrote:
John Oliver's Last Week Tonight has just ripped right into Tony.

[youtube]F4carpZWlVU[/youtube]

Man that's embarrassing for Australia.
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That is a bad look for us.
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Munrubenmuz wrote:
Here you go. Watch and be amazed.

[youtube]TWORTz_Izh8[/youtube]


Some excellent actors in that.

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Joe Hockey cautiously optimistic as economic growth rate improves


Treasurer says latest figures show economy is 'resilient' but that future growth must be earned

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theguardian.com, Wednesday 4 June 2014 14.14 AEST   

A surge in economic growth has made Joe Hockey optimistic about Australian jobs.


The economy expanded 1.1% during the first three months of the year, raising the annual growth rate to 3.5%, its fastest pace in about two years.

It is also comfortably above the long-term trend of about 3.25%, a rate that would usually take the pressure off unemployment.

The treasurer’s budget in May forecast a jobless rate of 6.25% over the coming two years, a figure he said he inherited from Labor. "I'm cautiously optimistic that we won't get there," he said in Canberra on Wednesday.

The unemployment rate sits at 5.8%.

A strong economic result in the first three months of the year came on the back of 106,000 new jobs being created, 79,000 of those full time, Hockey said.

He said of the figures: "They prove that our economy is resilient. We have a very solid foundation for future growth. But as I've said on many occasions, future growth must be earned."

Hockey was encouraged by signs the expected transition from investment and construction in the resources sector to the non-mining side of the economy was under way.

And his budget growth package would greatly assist the transition, he said.

Exports were the biggest contribution to growth, adding 1.4 percentage points. Hockey noted this coincided with the extraordinary event that Western Australia in particular was not hit by cyclones in the March quarter.

"Our miners are exporting their socks off ... they dug deep into their inventories," he said.

Business inventories made the biggest detraction from growth, subtracting 0.6 percentage points.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/04/joe-hockey-cautiously-optimistic-as-economic-growth-rate-improves
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Not surprised that Hockey is now changing his tune...

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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mcjules wrote:
Not surprised that Hockey is now changing his tune...


Yup, people slowly waking up to the fact that there isn't a "crisis" or "emergency".

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paulbagzFC wrote:
mcjules wrote:
Not surprised that Hockey is now changing his tune...


Yup, people slowly waking up to the fact that there isn't a "crisis" or "emergency".

-PB

Imagine the growth rate if this weren't an 'emergency' :lol:
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Bunch of stoopids. We're still paying a billion dollars a day in interest, irrespective of the mining boom. And that figure will continue to blow out.

It's the debt we need to under control. Positive economic news is only of benefit. But we need to repay the debt and get into black, the way the last Lib government did it.

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thupercoach wrote:
Bunch of stoopids. We're still paying a billion dollars a day in interest, irrespective of the mining boom. And that figure will continue to blow out.

It's the debt we need to under control. Positive economic news is only of benefit. But we need to repay the debt and get into black, the way the last Lib government did it.


Nobody has ever said that the debt etc isn't an issue, even the Lefties know that, it's how they intended to pay it back that is the problem (and has been covered numerous times again and again).

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RedKat wrote:
notorganic thats your best post!

Also the far right are shitting themselves that Turnbull might save us from the far right agenda and bring us more central. Bolt, Bernardi and now Jones all having a real go at Turnbull to try taint his image


define: "far right"
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RedKat wrote:
notorganic thats your best post!

Also the far right are shitting themselves that Turnbull might save us from the far right agenda and bring us more central. Bolt, Bernardi and now Jones all having a real go at Turnbull to try taint his image


Was on Jones's program this morn for more than half an hour - seems they cleared the air by the end pardon the pun :d

Paulbagz whichever whoever tries to reduce our debt wouldn't satisfy most if not all the takers/students/greens/reds anyway - can't please them all never going to happen........
Funniest is that none of them could do any better in the first place.

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M.L. wrote:
Paulbagz whichever whoever tries to reduce our debt wouldn't satisfy most if not all the takers/students/greens/reds anyway - can't please them all never going to happen........

Just as they can't satisfy all the tax dodgers/fat cats/blue ties/fascists (see I can come up with stupid names as well).

M.L. wrote:
Funniest is that none of them could do any better in the first place.

Disagree. The funniest thing is that the Liberal party aren't really fixing the problem but there are some that are eating it up.

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thupercoach wrote:
Bunch of stoopids. We're still paying a billion dollars a day in interest, irrespective of the mining boom. And that figure will continue to blow out.

So Australia's debt is 17% of our GDP. Our GDP is $1.5T, a debt of around $255bn. So if you're genuinely claiming we're paying $365+ billion in interest, more than we actually owe countries I'm calling bullshit.
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mcjules wrote:
M.L. wrote:
Paulbagz whichever whoever tries to reduce our debt wouldn't satisfy most if not all the takers/students/greens/reds anyway - can't please them all never going to happen........

Just as they can't satisfy all the tax dodgers/fat cats/blue ties/fascists (see I can come up with stupid names as well).

M.L. wrote:
Funniest is that none of them could do any better in the first place.

Disagree. The funniest thing is that the Liberal party aren't really fixing the problem but there are some that are eating it up.

Edited by mcjules: 5/6/2014 04:59:45 PM


Pretty much lol

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Disagree. The funniest thing is that the Liberal party aren't really fixing the problem but there are some that are eating it up.

Just making it the next guy's problem.
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RedKat wrote:
notorganic thats your best post!

Also the far right are shitting themselves that Turnbull might save us from the far right agenda and bring us more central. Bolt, Bernardi and now Jones all having a real go at Turnbull to try taint his image


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This.
As far back as 5 years ago I saw Turnbull for what he is - a smarmy, arrogant grub. Never been a fan of his, even when he was opposition leader. Not the man Australia needs. We've had enough people the last seven years in it purely for themselves.
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thupercoach wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
RedKat wrote:
notorganic thats your best post!

Also the far right are shitting themselves that Turnbull might save us from the far right agenda and bring us more central. Bolt, Bernardi and now Jones all having a real go at Turnbull to try taint his image


define: "far right"
This.
As far back as 5 years ago I saw Turnbull for what he is - a smarmy, arrogant grub. Never been a fan of his, even when he was opposition leader. Not the man Australia needs. We've had enough people the last seven years in it purely for themselves.

As opposed to Tony Abbott, who's a smarmy, arrogant grub who lets religion dictate politics.
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paulbagzFC wrote:
mcjules wrote:
M.L. wrote:
Paulbagz whichever whoever tries to reduce our debt wouldn't satisfy most if not all the takers/students/greens/reds anyway - can't please them all never going to happen........

Just as they can't satisfy all the tax dodgers/fat cats/blue ties/fascists (see I can come up with stupid names as well).

M.L. wrote:
Funniest is that none of them could do any better in the first place.

Disagree. The funniest thing is that the Liberal party aren't really fixing the problem but there are some that are eating it up.

Edited by mcjules: 5/6/2014 04:59:45 PM


Pretty much lol

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Right back at you LOL

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thupercoach wrote:
We've had enough people the last seven years in it purely for themselves.


Brilliant! Quote of the day.

A bloke worth $100 million plus is "in it for himself".




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Munrubenmuz wrote:
thupercoach wrote:
We've had enough people the last seven years in it purely for themselves.


Brilliant! Quote of the day.

A bloke worth $100 million plus is "in it for himself".



It's the ego, pure and simple. Same as Palmer and Rudd. And you know how those two turned out.

Give me a conviction politician like Howard, Hawke or Abbott over a self-centred, Machiavellian careerist like Gillard, Rudd or Turnbull any day.


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