The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese


The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese

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not naming any names, but it looks like someone here is supporting them
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melbourne_terrace wrote:
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If Western powers don't do anything then IS will begin a genocide, overwhelm Iraqi forces and form a caliphate. This will absolutely insinuate tensions between Israel most likely lead towards a larger conflict (which is what these people want as it would signal the end of days and the coming of Paradise). This will then involve the US and most likely the EU and create a broad Middle Eastern conflict, that in my opinion would be far more devastating that the Vietnam War morally, financially and socially.

Or we could stem the tide of these psychopaths now and hit them before they gain the upper hand in Iraq, and then hopefully (finally) do something about Syria and its typical Muslim dictator


Maybe we can wait to stop them after they destroy israel.

They'll destroy Palestine too.
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melbourne_terrace wrote:
marconi101 wrote:
If Western powers don't do anything then IS will begin a genocide, overwhelm Iraqi forces and form a caliphate. This will absolutely insinuate tensions between Israel most likely lead towards a larger conflict (which is what these people want as it would signal the end of days and the coming of Paradise). This will then involve the US and most likely the EU and create a broad Middle Eastern conflict, that in my opinion would be far more devastating that the Vietnam War morally, financially and socially.

Or we could stem the tide of these psychopaths now and hit them before they gain the upper hand in Iraq, and then hopefully (finally) do something about Syria and its typical Muslim dictator


Maybe we can wait to stop them after they destroy israel.


You're a sick person.
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benelsmore wrote:
melbourne_terrace wrote:
marconi101 wrote:
If Western powers don't do anything then IS will begin a genocide, overwhelm Iraqi forces and form a caliphate. This will absolutely insinuate tensions between Israel most likely lead towards a larger conflict (which is what these people want as it would signal the end of days and the coming of Paradise). This will then involve the US and most likely the EU and create a broad Middle Eastern conflict, that in my opinion would be far more devastating that the Vietnam War morally, financially and socially.

Or we could stem the tide of these psychopaths now and hit them before they gain the upper hand in Iraq, and then hopefully (finally) do something about Syria and its typical Muslim dictator


Maybe we can wait to stop them after they destroy israel.


You're a sick person.


So you're happy to sit back and watch Israel commit genocide?

Lol at you trying to take the moral high ground after literally just suggesting the same thing.

Viennese Vuck

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melbourne_terrace wrote:
benelsmore wrote:
melbourne_terrace wrote:
marconi101 wrote:
If Western powers don't do anything then IS will begin a genocide, overwhelm Iraqi forces and form a caliphate. This will absolutely insinuate tensions between Israel most likely lead towards a larger conflict (which is what these people want as it would signal the end of days and the coming of Paradise). This will then involve the US and most likely the EU and create a broad Middle Eastern conflict, that in my opinion would be far more devastating that the Vietnam War morally, financially and socially.

Or we could stem the tide of these psychopaths now and hit them before they gain the upper hand in Iraq, and then hopefully (finally) do something about Syria and its typical Muslim dictator


Maybe we can wait to stop them after they destroy israel.


You're a sick person.


So you're happy to sit back and watch Israel commit genocide?

Lol at you trying to take the moral high ground after literally just suggesting the same thing.


I hate Israel and Palestine equally.

They both deserve nothing.
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What a horrid statement, they deserve as much as anyone else on the planet. They are unfortunately infected by racial and religious stupidity that can be cured, what they need is education and reform which again unfortunately is hampered by the existence of fundamentalism

He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.

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marconi101 wrote:
What a horrid statement, they deserve as much as anyone else on the planet. They are unfortunately infected by racial and religious stupidity that can be cured, what they need is education and reform which again unfortunately is hampered by the existence of fundamentalism


Lack of thought in that point, apologies.

What i mean is they need to be sent to opposite ends of the planet and give exactly the same.
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As bad as it sounds there never been a more perfect time to drop an atom bomb.
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SlyGoat36 wrote:
As bad as it sounds there never been a more perfect time to drop an atom bomb.


that would result in more of a genocide than what is already allegedly occurring

seems you're no better than them


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ricecrackers wrote:
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As bad as it sounds there never been a more perfect time to drop an atom bomb.


that would result in more of a genocide than what is already allegedly occurring

seems you're no better than them



Sometimes doing that stops further loss of life.
Hiroshima anyone?
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SlyGoat36 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
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As bad as it sounds there never been a more perfect time to drop an atom bomb.


that would result in more of a genocide than what is already allegedly occurring

seems you're no better than them



Sometimes doing that stops further loss of life.
Hiroshima anyone?


Silly example. Japan was nuked because it would prevent the huge loss of American lives that could be expected from the intital invasion of Japan (the americans estimated at least 1 million casualties). Dropping a bomb on Iraq/Syria would have no such effect for the west, the west would end up killing more people than ISIS ever could without saving anyone. Plus you'd have the extra benefit of the entire middle east hating the west more than ever and probably turning to Russia and China.

Viennese Vuck

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melbourne_terrace wrote:
SlyGoat36 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
SlyGoat36 wrote:
As bad as it sounds there never been a more perfect time to drop an atom bomb.


that would result in more of a genocide than what is already allegedly occurring

seems you're no better than them



Sometimes doing that stops further loss of life.
Hiroshima anyone?


Silly example. Japan was nuked because it would prevent the huge loss of American lives that could be expected from the intital invasion of Japan (the americans estimated at least 1 million casualties). Dropping a bomb on Iraq/Syria would have no such effect for the west, the west would end up killing more people than ISIS ever could without saving anyone. Plus you'd have the extra benefit of the entire middle east hating the west more than ever and probably turning to Russia and China.


Would rather be nuked than have my head sliced off with a dull knife :lol:
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Thanks for freezing the super rate you fucks.

Fuck this Government.

-PB

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paulbagzFC wrote:
Thanks for freezing the super rate you fucks.

Fuck this Government.

-PB


yep
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paulbagzFC wrote:
Thanks for freezing the super rate you fucks.

Fuck this Government.

-PB


Yeah nah but the workers will actually get heaps more because employers aren't paying so much super, they'll definitely pass on those savings into pay raises for staff even though no part of the law obliges them to.
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melbourneboys wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
Thanks for freezing the super rate you fucks.

Fuck this Government.

-PB


yep


http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/paul-keating-labels-government-palmer-deal-to-freeze-super-appalling-and-cheap-ideology-20140903-10bzt0.html

Former Prime Minister Paul Keating has launched a blistering attack on the Abbott government, labelling the federal government's deal with the Palmer United Party to pause the rise in superannuation contributions at 9.5 per cent until 2021 "wilful sabotage of the nation's universal savings scheme".

The intervention came as Prime Minister Tony Abbott said the deal meant workers would have more money in their pockets that would otherwise have been squirrelled away in superannuation funds, and as Labor attacked the government for effectively reducing Australians' retirement savings.


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http://www.canberratimes.com.au/federal-politics/the-pulse-live/politics-live-september-4-2014-20140904-3euic.html

12:00pm: The bill to give Parliament the power to to decide questions of war (rather than the Prime Minister, national security committee and cabinet) has been defeated, 54 no to 12 aye.
The Greens, Nick Xenophon and David Leyonhjelm vote yes.
Everyone else is a no.

11:51am: The bells are ringing in the Senate for a vote on the Greens bill to have Parliament decide whether Australian troops are sent off to war.
Former army member Jacqui Lambie has just given a speech saying she will not support it.
"The Greens proposition is rushed," she argues.
But Lambie says she is open to discussion about better procedures for determining how Australia goes to war.
Greens leader Christine Milne concludes the debate.
"I am fearing that we have a government that is racing into engagement behind the United States ...

"In a democracy, should the Parliament decide."


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paulbagzFC wrote:
Thanks for freezing the super rate you fucks.

Fuck this Government.

-PB


fuck your a sook
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batfink wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
Thanks for freezing the super rate you fucks.

Fuck this Government.

-PB


fuck your a sook


Why are you sooking about him being a sook?
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notorganic wrote:
batfink wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
Thanks for freezing the super rate you fucks.

Fuck this Government.

-PB


fuck your a sook


Why are you sooking about him being a sook?



i'm not, i am stating a fact......get a bit sick of blokes who sit down to piss
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batfink wrote:
notorganic wrote:
batfink wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
Thanks for freezing the super rate you fucks.

Fuck this Government.

-PB


fuck your a sook


Why are you sooking about him being a sook?



i'm not, i am stating a fact......get a bit sick of blokes who sit down to piss


So what if he sits down to piss? Is there something wrong with people who sit down to piss?

What are you, some kind of misogynist?

PAY TREE ARRRRKEEEEEEEE
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notorganic wrote:
batfink wrote:
notorganic wrote:
batfink wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
Thanks for freezing the super rate you fucks.

Fuck this Government.

-PB


fuck your a sook


Why are you sooking about him being a sook?



i'm not, i am stating a fact......get a bit sick of blokes who sit down to piss


So what if he sits down to piss? Is there something wrong with people who sit down to piss?

What are you, some kind of misogynist?

PAY TREE ARRRRKEEEEEEEE


nope....sick of sooks....

and what are you JELLO SHERIFF????
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batfink wrote:
JELLO SHERIFF????


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batfink wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
Thanks for freezing the super rate you fucks.

Fuck this Government.

-PB


fuck your a sook

*you're

=;
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notorganic wrote:
batfink wrote:
JELLO SHERIFF????



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Tony Abbott's Team Australia

Team Australia?

Australia... Australia...

Australia, Fk yeah! Comin' Round to save the muthafkin day yeah!

Australia, Fk yeah!
Freedom is the only way yeah!

Terrorists your game is through, 'cause now you have to answer to...
Australia, fk yeah!
So lick my butt and suck on my balls!
Australia, fk yeah!
Whatcha gonna do when we come for you now?

It's the dream that we all share
It's the hope for tomorrow! Fk yeah.

Adelaide, fk yeah!
Sydney, fk yeah!
The Gap, fk yeah!
Melbourne, fk yeah!
Brisbane, fk yeah!
Broken Hill, fuck yeah!
Boat People, fuck yeah!
Centrelink, fk yeah!

Fk yeah!


:-"
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batfink wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
Thanks for freezing the super rate you fucks.

Fuck this Government.

-PB


fuck your a sook


Cry me a river you old kunt.

-PB

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Quote:
This isn't their first superannuation betrayal
By Paul Keating
Posted Wed at 4:56pmWed 3 Sep 2014, 4:56pm

This decision ranks with the abandonment of the 15 per cent Superannuation Guarantee.

Mandatory superannuation contributions at 9.5 per cent spread over a 35 year working life for someone on $100,000 to $150,000 per annum will provide an income after retirement of roughly 50 per cent of pre-retirement income.

This is way below the 70 per cent of pre-retirement income replacement a Superannuation Guarantee at 12 per cent would provide. And 70 per cent is the level adjudged by income specialists and welfare groups as the appropriate level of disposable income needed in retirement.

Under the current law, the changes introduced by the former Labor government would see the 12 per cent rate begin on 1 July 2019.

The government's decision yesterday, with the connivance of the Palmer United Party, jams compulsory superannuation contributions at 9.5 per cent till July 2021 - effectively wiping out any prospect of the SG ever moving beyond 9.5 per cent without a change of government.

Yesterday's decision represents nothing other than the wilful sabotage of the nation's universal savings scheme. And sabotage for reasons only of prejudice.

The Government's connivance with PUP to spike superannuation at 9.5 per cent has little to do with the budget balance this year, or in the early out years, and everything to do with cheap ideology.

The Liberal party has always opposed universal superannuation and as it revealed yesterday, it still does.

This decision ranks with that of the former Howard government's 1996 decision to abandon the Keating government's 15 per cent Superannuation Guarantee, designed particularly to lift the 1940s baby boom generation to more adequate levels of accumulation in their remaining years before retirement.

The cost of yesterday's decision will not only adversely affect the baby boom generation but more substantially, their children - the so-called Generations X and Y.

The Howard/Costello decision in 1996 cost the average Australian worker roughly $250,000 in accumulation over their working life. The cost of yesterday's decision will be in the region of a further $100,000.
The Prime Minister and Mr Palmer trotted out the tawdry argument that working people are better off with more cash in their hand today than savings for tomorrow. They omit to say that superannuation savings represent deferred consumption, not lost consumption. But more than that, that their superannuation contributions become compound savings - where the earnings on their accumulations are in tax terms permitted to earn further. That is, earnings on the earnings - compound earnings which, over a lifetime, grow exponentially to support a person in retirement.

If Tony Abbott's argument about the value of cash today had substance, there would be no savings. No savings in savings banks and no savings in superannuation. For, if the Prime Minister's claim were to be true in logic, it would need to be true absolutely. That is, the notion that people are better off spending and disposing of all their income than saving any part of it.

This week, Australia's pool of superannuation savings topped $1.87 trillion - larger than the market capitalisation of the Australian Stock Exchange. That vast pool of savings, which has revolutionised our capital markets and dramatically lowered the cost of Australian capital, exists, in the main, because of compulsory superannuation.

You don't expect conservative governments to believe in much but, at least, you expect them to believe in thrift. This Government does not even believe in thrift.

The Treasurer talks of ending the age of entitlement. I gave substance to that notion 30 years ago, when I first asked Australians to provide for their own retirement - to move beyond reliance on the age pension as the default anti-destitution measure.

Yesterday's decision puts the pension back at centre stage, as retirees find that their superannuation accumulation is not large enough to live from without pension supplementation.

Yesterday's decision is an appalling one - by a government lacking any genuine or conscientious concern for the nation's workforce.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-03/keating-superannuation-betrayal/5717070

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Keating not only saying it like it is, but also highlighting what is missing in today's Government , intelligence, leadership, good governance etc....
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Australia is too stupid for Paul Keating

He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.

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