The Australian Politics thread: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese


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mcjules wrote:
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Can you not read the above where it says interest rates hit 21% when Howard was treasurer?


yes i can,, but it's not true


Interest rates hit 21.39% in April 1982.


not in the source file i am referencing, what source are you utilising???

in April 1982 the rate was 13.50%


Housing interest rates were capped at the time. So a direct comparison of housing rates is invalid.



really, so the fact that under keating the housing rates being 17.5% is irrelevant?? fuck ask the 1,000's of people who lost their houses or were affected by the financial fallout that......

and the argument has been about housing rates

http://www.loansense.com.au/historical-rates.html


No it's not irrelevant. What's irrelevant though is that you're saying there were higher interest rates for housing under Labour which is technically true but disingenuous as under Howard they were capped and not subject to market forces.

The comparison is unfair and not legitimate.

As you would no doubt know a large proportion of interest rates are at the behest of forces outside the government's control. This is why I don't crap on about Howard's massive 21% bank interest rates and get the shits when people bang on about Keating's 17.5% housing interest rates.

Oh, and if we're asking those affected by Keating's high interest rates you should ask all the people that were affected by the 12.5% inflation that followed Howard's record interest rates.

The good ol' days eh?

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2006/s1705542.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Howard

The economic crises of the early 1980s brought Howard into conflict with the economically conservative Fraser. As the economy headed towards the worst recession since the 1930s, Keynesian Fraser pushed an expansionary fiscal position much to Howard's and Treasury's horror. With his authority as treasurer being flouted, Howard considered resigning in July 1982, but, after discussions with his wife and senior advisor John Hewson, he decided to "tough it out".[20] The 1982 wages explosion—wages rose 16 per cent across the country—resulted in stagflation; unemployment touched double-digits and inflation peaked at 12.5% (official interest rates peaked at 21%).[26]



I don't need to ask anyone i lived through both governments and know how it was, remember who was the government who fucked up the economy just prior to Fraser??? just like the Government who fucked up the economy prior to Abbott.....

same old same old.........cycle of debt and mismanagement..........


Well I lived through it too but I'm not rewriting history to suit the narrative.

If you want to engage in constructive debate you have to be willing to concede to facts occasionally.

Personally I blame Menzies for starting the whole shitfight off.

That's a joke Finky but exactly how far back do you want to go? Abbot blames Gillard/Rudd, Rudd blames Howard, Howard blames Keating, Keating blames Hawke, Hawke blames........and on it goes.

If the Liberals want to throw shit about interest rates all over the place then they have to be able to cop it too.


well the FACT is housing interest rates, (yes we have been talking housing interest rates) were higher under keating than howard.......that is a fact.....like it not, it's a fact, and under Fraser/Howard they were lower, simple fact again, i agree it's impossible to compare due to the cap, i am not pushing anyones barrow just stating a FACT.......

and when ANY political party start quoting interest rate figures during elections it pretty much a given they are talking HOUSING interest rates so the general public (voter) is swayed or convinced to vote in a particular fashion.......

So would you support legislation being reintroduced to cap housing interest rates?


would depend on the circumstances at that particular time, obviously it is not required at the moment.....
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batfink wrote:
would depend on the circumstances at that particular time, obviously it is not required at the moment.....

Ok so you think capping housing interest rates at that stage was a good idea?

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mcjules wrote:
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would depend on the circumstances at that particular time, obviously it is not required at the moment.....

Ok so you think capping housing interest rates at that stage was a good idea?


i can't see where i stated that?

you should try for a job with the ABC....ambushing and putting words in peoples mouths.....
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batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
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would depend on the circumstances at that particular time, obviously it is not required at the moment.....

Ok so you think capping housing interest rates at that stage was a good idea?


i can't see where i stated that?

you should try for a job with the ABC....ambushing and putting words in peoples mouths.....


He's not saying you stated it, he's asking you a question :lol:

Dense.

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paulbagzFC wrote:
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would depend on the circumstances at that particular time, obviously it is not required at the moment.....

Ok so you think capping housing interest rates at that stage was a good idea?


i can't see where i stated that?

you should try for a job with the ABC....ambushing and putting words in peoples mouths.....


He's not saying you stated it, he's asking you a question :lol:

Dense.

-PB


Why don't you stop beating around the bush and out with it, cunt
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notorganic wrote:
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batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
would depend on the circumstances at that particular time, obviously it is not required at the moment.....

Ok so you think capping housing interest rates at that stage was a good idea?


i can't see where i stated that?

you should try for a job with the ABC....ambushing and putting words in peoples mouths.....


He's not saying you stated it, he's asking you a question :lol:

Dense.

-PB


Why don't you stop beating around the bush and out with it, cunt


It's because of my pissing habits and the pressure batty puts me under



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batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
would depend on the circumstances at that particular time, obviously it is not required at the moment.....

Ok so you think capping housing interest rates at that stage was a good idea?


i can't see where i stated that?

you should try for a job with the ABC....ambushing and putting words in peoples mouths.....

As PB stated, I'm asking the question. I'm just curious if you think it was a good idea to cap housing interest rates during the fraser/howard era (and before)? My assumption is yes as you were using it to suggest that interest rates were better back then. Unless of course you were just trying to troll but I think that you are generally sincere.

I do wonder how many banks were willing to lend when they could only charge interest at 13% but could only get the funds themselves at 21% but I'm sure you'll have a good explanation.

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paulbagzFC wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
would depend on the circumstances at that particular time, obviously it is not required at the moment.....

Ok so you think capping housing interest rates at that stage was a good idea?


i can't see where i stated that?

you should try for a job with the ABC....ambushing and putting words in peoples mouths.....


He's not saying you stated it, he's asking you a question :lol:

Dense.

-PB


Actually it is you who is dense, there is one word missing from his comment and it is "DO" and it should have been placed between SO & YOU, he is assuming i support capping interest rates, i haven't stated that in any of my posts.....


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mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
would depend on the circumstances at that particular time, obviously it is not required at the moment.....

Ok so you think capping housing interest rates at that stage was a good idea?


i can't see where i stated that?

you should try for a job with the ABC....ambushing and putting words in peoples mouths.....

As PB stated, I'm asking the question. I'm just curious if you think it was a good idea to cap housing interest rates during the fraser/howard era (and before)? My assumption is yes as you were using it to suggest that interest rates were better back then. Unless of course you were just trying to troll but I think that you are generally sincere.

I do wonder how many banks were willing to lend when they could only charge interest at 13% but could only get the funds themselves at 21% but I'm sure you'll have a good explanation.



you assume way to much..... i was just stating facts......housing loan interest rates were 17% under keating and 13% under fraser/howard......how hard is that for you to get???

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batfink wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
would depend on the circumstances at that particular time, obviously it is not required at the moment.....

Ok so you think capping housing interest rates at that stage was a good idea?


i can't see where i stated that?

you should try for a job with the ABC....ambushing and putting words in peoples mouths.....


He's not saying you stated it, he's asking you a question :lol:

Dense.

-PB


Actually it is you who is dense, there is one word missing from his comment and it is "DO" and it should have been placed between SO & YOU, he is assuming i support capping interest rates, i haven't stated that in any of my posts.....


But I shit standing up and piss lying down.

Where is your God now Finkest?

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paulbagzFC wrote:
batfink wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
would depend on the circumstances at that particular time, obviously it is not required at the moment.....

Ok so you think capping housing interest rates at that stage was a good idea?


i can't see where i stated that?

you should try for a job with the ABC....ambushing and putting words in peoples mouths.....


He's not saying you stated it, he's asking you a question :lol:

Dense.

-PB


Actually it is you who is dense, there is one word missing from his comment and it is "DO" and it should have been placed between SO & YOU, he is assuming i support capping interest rates, i haven't stated that in any of my posts.....


But I shit standing up and piss lying down.

Where is your God now Finkest?

-PB


seek help immediately;)
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batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
would depend on the circumstances at that particular time, obviously it is not required at the moment.....

Ok so you think capping housing interest rates at that stage was a good idea?


i can't see where i stated that?

you should try for a job with the ABC....ambushing and putting words in peoples mouths.....

As PB stated, I'm asking the question. I'm just curious if you think it was a good idea to cap housing interest rates during the fraser/howard era (and before)? My assumption is yes as you were using it to suggest that interest rates were better back then. Unless of course you were just trying to troll but I think that you are generally sincere.

I do wonder how many banks were willing to lend when they could only charge interest at 13% but could only get the funds themselves at 21% but I'm sure you'll have a good explanation.



you assume way to much..... i was just stating facts......housing loan interest rates were 17% under keating and 13% under fraser/howard......how hard is that for you to get???

Not hard at all. From now on I'll treat any facts that you raise as just that. A fact that has no proper point or relevance to the discussion. ;)

I knew I shouldn't have put my assumption in as you'd just use it to deflect. Live and learn :lol:

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mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
would depend on the circumstances at that particular time, obviously it is not required at the moment.....

Ok so you think capping housing interest rates at that stage was a good idea?


i can't see where i stated that?

you should try for a job with the ABC....ambushing and putting words in peoples mouths.....

As PB stated, I'm asking the question. I'm just curious if you think it was a good idea to cap housing interest rates during the fraser/howard era (and before)? My assumption is yes as you were using it to suggest that interest rates were better back then. Unless of course you were just trying to troll but I think that you are generally sincere.



I do wonder how many banks were willing to lend when they could only charge interest at 13% but could only get the funds themselves at 21% but I'm sure you'll have a good explanation.



you assume way to much..... i was just stating facts......housing loan interest rates were 17% under keating and 13% under fraser/howard......how hard is that for you to get???

Not hard at all. From now on I'll treat any facts that you raise as just that. A fact that has no proper point or relevance to the discussion. ;)

I knew I shouldn't have put my assumption in as you'd just use it to deflect. Live and learn :lol:

Edited by mcjules: 9/9/2014 01:27:18 PM


you are quite special aren't you....the point is....housing interest rates were 17% under keating and 13% under howard.....that is a fact and completely relevant.......

perhaps if you asked straight up questions without the assumptions and ambush tactics people would be prepared to view an opinion


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batfink wrote:
you are quite special aren't you....the point is....housing interest rates were 17% under keating and 13% under howard.....that is a fact and completely relevant.......

perhaps if you asked straight up questions without the assumptions and ambush tactics people would be prepared to view an opinion

It's perfectly valid to make some assumptions based on your responses. I asked some very straight up questions, to confirm or deny my assumptions but you deflected them rather than answering. TBH shame on me for thinking that anything else would happen :lol:

It's only relevant if you can use that fact to support your argument in the discussion. Yes the interest rate was lower but it was capped so it wasn't allowed to go higher. If you think that 13% is better than the 17% under Keating then you need to explain how as it was pointed out that the real comparable interest rate was as high as 21% otherwise you're just throwing out random facts. If you don't want to, that's fine I'll just assume that you're trolling or have no idea what you're talking about and not waste my time anymore.

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mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
you are quite special aren't you....the point is....housing interest rates were 17% under keating and 13% under howard.....that is a fact and completely relevant.......

perhaps if you asked straight up questions without the assumptions and ambush tactics people would be prepared to view an opinion

It's perfectly valid to make some assumptions based on your responses. I asked some very straight up questions, to confirm or deny my assumptions but you deflected them rather than answering. TBH shame on me for thinking that anything else would happen :lol:

It's only relevant if you can use that fact to support your argument in the discussion. Yes the interest rate was lower but it was capped so it wasn't allowed to go higher. If you think that 13% is better than the 17% under Keating then you need to explain how as it was pointed out that the real comparable interest rate was as high as 21% otherwise you're just throwing out random facts. If you don't want to, that's fine I'll just assume that you're trolling or have no idea what you're talking about and not waste my time anymore.


do whatever you want sunshine..... obviously you can't handle the truth......perhaps it's time for you to ge play marbles with the rest of the kids
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batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
you are quite special aren't you....the point is....housing interest rates were 17% under keating and 13% under howard.....that is a fact and completely relevant.......

perhaps if you asked straight up questions without the assumptions and ambush tactics people would be prepared to view an opinion

It's perfectly valid to make some assumptions based on your responses. I asked some very straight up questions, to confirm or deny my assumptions but you deflected them rather than answering. TBH shame on me for thinking that anything else would happen :lol:

It's only relevant if you can use that fact to support your argument in the discussion. Yes the interest rate was lower but it was capped so it wasn't allowed to go higher. If you think that 13% is better than the 17% under Keating then you need to explain how as it was pointed out that the real comparable interest rate was as high as 21% otherwise you're just throwing out random facts. If you don't want to, that's fine I'll just assume that you're trolling or have no idea what you're talking about and not waste my time anymore.


do whatever you want sunshine..... obviously you can't handle the truth......perhaps it's time for you to ge play marbles with the rest of the kids

I guess a response better than this is too much to ask on a football forum :lol:

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mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
you are quite special aren't you....the point is....housing interest rates were 17% under keating and 13% under howard.....that is a fact and completely relevant.......

perhaps if you asked straight up questions without the assumptions and ambush tactics people would be prepared to view an opinion

It's perfectly valid to make some assumptions based on your responses. I asked some very straight up questions, to confirm or deny my assumptions but you deflected them rather than answering. TBH shame on me for thinking that anything else would happen :lol:

It's only relevant if you can use that fact to support your argument in the discussion. Yes the interest rate was lower but it was capped so it wasn't allowed to go higher. If you think that 13% is better than the 17% under Keating then you need to explain how as it was pointed out that the real comparable interest rate was as high as 21% otherwise you're just throwing out random facts. If you don't want to, that's fine I'll just assume that you're trolling or have no idea what you're talking about and not waste my time anymore.


do whatever you want sunshine..... obviously you can't handle the truth......perhaps it's time for you to ge play marbles with the rest of the kids

I guess a response better than this is too much to ask on a football forum :lol:


From someone like batfink; yes.

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batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
you are quite special aren't you....the point is....housing interest rates were 17% under keating and 13% under howard.....that is a fact and completely relevant.......

perhaps if you asked straight up questions without the assumptions and ambush tactics people would be prepared to view an opinion

It's perfectly valid to make some assumptions based on your responses. I asked some very straight up questions, to confirm or deny my assumptions but you deflected them rather than answering. TBH shame on me for thinking that anything else would happen :lol:

It's only relevant if you can use that fact to support your argument in the discussion. Yes the interest rate was lower but it was capped so it wasn't allowed to go higher. If you think that 13% is better than the 17% under Keating then you need to explain how as it was pointed out that the real comparable interest rate was as high as 21% otherwise you're just throwing out random facts. If you don't want to, that's fine I'll just assume that you're trolling or have no idea what you're talking about and not waste my time anymore.


do whatever you want sunshine..... obviously you can't handle the truth......perhaps it's time for you to ge play marbles with the rest of the kids


What were the housing rates under Rudd and Gillard compared to Howard?
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paulbagzFC wrote:
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I guess a response better than this is too much to ask on a football forum :lol:


From someone like batfink; yes.

-PB

It's a shame that most of the more right wing posters are incapable of producing a decent argument. I actually don't mind rusty, most of the time I've come to the conclusion that based on our own ideologies we'll never agree but at least I get something out of the discussion. Most of the others...

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mcjules wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
mcjules wrote:
I guess a response better than this is too much to ask on a football forum :lol:


From someone like batfink; yes.

-PB

It's a shame that most of the more right wing posters are incapable of producing a decent argument. I actually don't mind rusty, most of the time I've come to the conclusion that based on our own ideologies we'll never agree but at least I get something out of the discussion. Most of the others...


well there you go again.....more assumption......


on another topic,

did anyone see cooky Bill Shorten on last nights news addressing a union rally???

what a ranting socialist nut job........scare mongering and spewing lies


Here you go Matt

http://www.loansense.com.au/historical-rates.html

Don't look at these JULES they are facts, you may not be able to handle the truth again, twice in 24 hours is a bit outside your capability.....
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paulbagzFC wrote:
mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
you are quite special aren't you....the point is....housing interest rates were 17% under keating and 13% under howard.....that is a fact and completely relevant.......

perhaps if you asked straight up questions without the assumptions and ambush tactics people would be prepared to view an opinion

It's perfectly valid to make some assumptions based on your responses. I asked some very straight up questions, to confirm or deny my assumptions but you deflected them rather than answering. TBH shame on me for thinking that anything else would happen :lol:

It's only relevant if you can use that fact to support your argument in the discussion. Yes the interest rate was lower but it was capped so it wasn't allowed to go higher. If you think that 13% is better than the 17% under Keating then you need to explain how as it was pointed out that the real comparable interest rate was as high as 21% otherwise you're just throwing out random facts. If you don't want to, that's fine I'll just assume that you're trolling or have no idea what you're talking about and not waste my time anymore.


do whatever you want sunshine..... obviously you can't handle the truth......perhaps it's time for you to ge play marbles with the rest of the kids

I guess a response better than this is too much to ask on a football forum :lol:


From someone like batfink; yes.

-PB


pot / kettle ;)
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batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
mcjules wrote:
I guess a response better than this is too much to ask on a football forum :lol:


From someone like batfink; yes.

-PB

It's a shame that most of the more right wing posters are incapable of producing a decent argument. I actually don't mind rusty, most of the time I've come to the conclusion that based on our own ideologies we'll never agree but at least I get something out of the discussion. Most of the others...


well there you go again.....more assumption......


on another topic,

did anyone see cooky Bill Shorten on last nights news addressing a union rally???

what a ranting socialist nut job........scare mongering and spewing lies


Here you go Matt

http://www.loansense.com.au/historical-rates.html

Don't look at these JULES they are facts, you may not be able to handle the truth again, twice in 24 hours is a bit outside your capability.....

So... You're saying Gillard was a better PM than Howard?
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notorganic wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
mcjules wrote:
I guess a response better than this is too much to ask on a football forum :lol:


From someone like batfink; yes.

-PB

It's a shame that most of the more right wing posters are incapable of producing a decent argument. I actually don't mind rusty, most of the time I've come to the conclusion that based on our own ideologies we'll never agree but at least I get something out of the discussion. Most of the others...


well there you go again.....more assumption......


on another topic,

did anyone see cooky Bill Shorten on last nights news addressing a union rally???

what a ranting socialist nut job........scare mongering and spewing lies


Here you go Matt

http://www.loansense.com.au/historical-rates.html

Don't look at these JULES they are facts, you may not be able to handle the truth again, twice in 24 hours is a bit outside your capability.....

So... You're saying Gillard was a better PM than Howard?


Nope, can't see where i said the either????


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notorganic wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
mcjules wrote:
I guess a response better than this is too much to ask on a football forum :lol:


From someone like batfink; yes.

-PB

It's a shame that most of the more right wing posters are incapable of producing a decent argument. I actually don't mind rusty, most of the time I've come to the conclusion that based on our own ideologies we'll never agree but at least I get something out of the discussion. Most of the others...


well there you go again.....more assumption......


on another topic,

did anyone see cooky Bill Shorten on last nights news addressing a union rally???

what a ranting socialist nut job........scare mongering and spewing lies


Here you go Matt

http://www.loansense.com.au/historical-rates.html

Don't look at these JULES they are facts, you may not be able to handle the truth again, twice in 24 hours is a bit outside your capability.....

So... You're saying Gillard was a better PM than Howard?

Notor, didn't you read????? You're not supposed to interpret the facts and come to an understanding as to the relevance to the discussion we're having......... They're just facts and they are what they are...........

Btw you didn't write the question correctly,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, should be ARE YOU and you're making assumptions about him. Am I doing it RIGHT?????? ;)

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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batfink wrote:
notorganic wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
mcjules wrote:
I guess a response better than this is too much to ask on a football forum :lol:


From someone like batfink; yes.

-PB

It's a shame that most of the more right wing posters are incapable of producing a decent argument. I actually don't mind rusty, most of the time I've come to the conclusion that based on our own ideologies we'll never agree but at least I get something out of the discussion. Most of the others...


well there you go again.....more assumption......


on another topic,

did anyone see cooky Bill Shorten on last nights news addressing a union rally???

what a ranting socialist nut job........scare mongering and spewing lies


Here you go Matt

http://www.loansense.com.au/historical-rates.html

Don't look at these JULES they are facts, you may not be able to handle the truth again, twice in 24 hours is a bit outside your capability.....

So... You're saying Gillard was a better PM than Howard?


Nope, can't see where i said the either????


Just following your demonstrated thought processes to their logical conclusions.
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notorganic wrote:
batfink wrote:
notorganic wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
mcjules wrote:
I guess a response better than this is too much to ask on a football forum :lol:


From someone like batfink; yes.

-PB

It's a shame that most of the more right wing posters are incapable of producing a decent argument. I actually don't mind rusty, most of the time I've come to the conclusion that based on our own ideologies we'll never agree but at least I get something out of the discussion. Most of the others...


well there you go again.....more assumption......


on another topic,

did anyone see cooky Bill Shorten on last nights news addressing a union rally???

what a ranting socialist nut job........scare mongering and spewing lies


Here you go Matt

http://www.loansense.com.au/historical-rates.html

Don't look at these JULES they are facts, you may not be able to handle the truth again, twice in 24 hours is a bit outside your capability.....

So... You're saying Gillard was a better PM than Howard?


Nope, can't see where i said the either????


Just following your demonstrated thought processes to their logical conclusions.


not really, how could anyone conclude that only one element of 1000's could determine who is a better PM???


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mcjules wrote:
notorganic wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
mcjules wrote:
I guess a response better than this is too much to ask on a football forum :lol:


From someone like batfink; yes.

-PB

It's a shame that most of the more right wing posters are incapable of producing a decent argument. I actually don't mind rusty, most of the time I've come to the conclusion that based on our own ideologies we'll never agree but at least I get something out of the discussion. Most of the others...


well there you go again.....more assumption......


on another topic,

did anyone see cooky Bill Shorten on last nights news addressing a union rally???

what a ranting socialist nut job........scare mongering and spewing lies


Here you go Matt

http://www.loansense.com.au/historical-rates.html

Don't look at these JULES they are facts, you may not be able to handle the truth again, twice in 24 hours is a bit outside your capability.....

So... You're saying Gillard was a better PM than Howard?

Notor, didn't you read????? You're not supposed to interpret the facts and come to an understanding as to the relevance to the discussion we're having......... They're just facts and they are what they are...........

Btw you didn't write the question correctly,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, should be ARE YOU and you're making assumptions about him. Am I doing it RIGHT?????? ;)



i feel sorry for your wife
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batfink wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
batfink wrote:
you are quite special aren't you....the point is....housing interest rates were 17% under keating and 13% under howard.....that is a fact and completely relevant.......

perhaps if you asked straight up questions without the assumptions and ambush tactics people would be prepared to view an opinion

It's perfectly valid to make some assumptions based on your responses. I asked some very straight up questions, to confirm or deny my assumptions but you deflected them rather than answering. TBH shame on me for thinking that anything else would happen :lol:

It's only relevant if you can use that fact to support your argument in the discussion. Yes the interest rate was lower but it was capped so it wasn't allowed to go higher. If you think that 13% is better than the 17% under Keating then you need to explain how as it was pointed out that the real comparable interest rate was as high as 21% otherwise you're just throwing out random facts. If you don't want to, that's fine I'll just assume that you're trolling or have no idea what you're talking about and not waste my time anymore.


do whatever you want sunshine..... obviously you can't handle the truth......perhaps it's time for you to ge play marbles with the rest of the kids

I guess a response better than this is too much to ask on a football forum :lol:


From someone like batfink; yes.

-PB


pot / kettle ;)


Not really no.

-PB

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batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
notorganic wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
mcjules wrote:
I guess a response better than this is too much to ask on a football forum :lol:


From someone like batfink; yes.

-PB

It's a shame that most of the more right wing posters are incapable of producing a decent argument. I actually don't mind rusty, most of the time I've come to the conclusion that based on our own ideologies we'll never agree but at least I get something out of the discussion. Most of the others...


well there you go again.....more assumption......


on another topic,

did anyone see cooky Bill Shorten on last nights news addressing a union rally???

what a ranting socialist nut job........scare mongering and spewing lies


Here you go Matt

http://www.loansense.com.au/historical-rates.html

Don't look at these JULES they are facts, you may not be able to handle the truth again, twice in 24 hours is a bit outside your capability.....

So... You're saying Gillard was a better PM than Howard?

Notor, didn't you read????? You're not supposed to interpret the facts and come to an understanding as to the relevance to the discussion we're having......... They're just facts and they are what they are...........

Btw you didn't write the question correctly,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, should be ARE YOU and you're making assumptions about him. Am I doing it RIGHT?????? ;)



i feel sorry for your wife


When all else fails, go for the personal insult :cool:

-PB

https://i.imgur.com/batge7K.jpg

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paulbagzFC wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
notorganic wrote:
batfink wrote:
mcjules wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
mcjules wrote:
I guess a response better than this is too much to ask on a football forum :lol:


From someone like batfink; yes.

-PB

It's a shame that most of the more right wing posters are incapable of producing a decent argument. I actually don't mind rusty, most of the time I've come to the conclusion that based on our own ideologies we'll never agree but at least I get something out of the discussion. Most of the others...


well there you go again.....more assumption......


on another topic,

did anyone see cooky Bill Shorten on last nights news addressing a union rally???

what a ranting socialist nut job........scare mongering and spewing lies


Here you go Matt

http://www.loansense.com.au/historical-rates.html

Don't look at these JULES they are facts, you may not be able to handle the truth again, twice in 24 hours is a bit outside your capability.....

So... You're saying Gillard was a better PM than Howard?

Notor, didn't you read????? You're not supposed to interpret the facts and come to an understanding as to the relevance to the discussion we're having......... They're just facts and they are what they are...........

Btw you didn't write the question correctly,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, should be ARE YOU and you're making assumptions about him. Am I doing it RIGHT?????? ;)



i feel sorry for your wife


When all else fails, go for the personal insult :cool:

-PB

Which also fails ;)

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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