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notorganic wrote:batfink wrote:notorganic wrote:killua wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:I have no idea where ricey got his views from saying unions pressure people to join . None of the unions I joined have never pressured me to join . I guess people are using that view to attack unions without any proof that os happening In my first job as a teenager in a supermarket, we were all pressured to join whatever union covered us at the time. Not intense pressure, but you would have a rep walking up to 15 year olds telling them they had to join. Yeah, this is the best description of "pressure" to join unions. It's a long way from the standover nonsense that finklestein asserts. just so you get it right Matt, the standover tactics i talk about are not that on union membership, they are the stand over tactics used to extort money and influence over who wins jobs and how to keep those job free of union trouble, you should have watched the ABC four corners earlier this week for a full and convincing endorsement of what i have been saying I have seen it, BTW. It's not widespread in the union movement. Heck, it's not even widespread in the CFMEU. lol..........sure mate, i been in the construction industry for over 35 years and if you believe that your dumber than you look......LOL ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)
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batfink wrote:notorganic wrote:batfink wrote:notorganic wrote:killua wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:I have no idea where ricey got his views from saying unions pressure people to join . None of the unions I joined have never pressured me to join . I guess people are using that view to attack unions without any proof that os happening In my first job as a teenager in a supermarket, we were all pressured to join whatever union covered us at the time. Not intense pressure, but you would have a rep walking up to 15 year olds telling them they had to join. Yeah, this is the best description of "pressure" to join unions. It's a long way from the standover nonsense that finklestein asserts. just so you get it right Matt, the standover tactics i talk about are not that on union membership, they are the stand over tactics used to extort money and influence over who wins jobs and how to keep those job free of union trouble, you should have watched the ABC four corners earlier this week for a full and convincing endorsement of what i have been saying I have seen it, BTW. It's not widespread in the union movement. Heck, it's not even widespread in the CFMEU. lol..........sure mate, i been in the construction industry for over 35 years and if you believe that your dumber than you look......LOL ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) I look dumb? What a hurtful thing to say :(
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notorganic wrote:batfink wrote:notorganic wrote:batfink wrote:notorganic wrote:killua wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:I have no idea where ricey got his views from saying unions pressure people to join . None of the unions I joined have never pressured me to join . I guess people are using that view to attack unions without any proof that os happening In my first job as a teenager in a supermarket, we were all pressured to join whatever union covered us at the time. Not intense pressure, but you would have a rep walking up to 15 year olds telling them they had to join. Yeah, this is the best description of "pressure" to join unions. It's a long way from the standover nonsense that finklestein asserts. just so you get it right Matt, the standover tactics i talk about are not that on union membership, they are the stand over tactics used to extort money and influence over who wins jobs and how to keep those job free of union trouble, you should have watched the ABC four corners earlier this week for a full and convincing endorsement of what i have been saying I have seen it, BTW. It's not widespread in the union movement. Heck, it's not even widespread in the CFMEU. lol..........sure mate, i been in the construction industry for over 35 years and if you believe that your dumber than you look......LOL ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) I look dumb? What a hurtful thing to say :( sorry....figure of speach
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batfink wrote:rusty wrote:marconi101 wrote:Keating, Hawke and Gillard were given standing ovations at Gough's memorial today. Howard and Abbott booed and jeered
Keating was rightly given the largest ovation
Yer classy wasnt it, turning Whitlams funeral into a popularity contest for most beloved Labor PM. As for Whitlam he was a clearly a bit of a gloryhunter, obviously no good to last more than one term but jammed enough dogooding to earn a seat at the right hand of god. +1.... You realise he's a troll right?
He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.
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marconi101 wrote:batfink wrote:rusty wrote:marconi101 wrote:Keating, Hawke and Gillard were given standing ovations at Gough's memorial today. Howard and Abbott booed and jeered
Keating was rightly given the largest ovation
Yer classy wasnt it, turning Whitlams funeral into a popularity contest for most beloved Labor PM. As for Whitlam he was a clearly a bit of a gloryhunter, obviously no good to last more than one term but jammed enough dogooding to earn a seat at the right hand of god. +1.... You realise he's a troll right? don't care if he is, the post is accurate
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batfink wrote:marconi101 wrote:batfink wrote:rusty wrote:marconi101 wrote:Keating, Hawke and Gillard were given standing ovations at Gough's memorial today. Howard and Abbott booed and jeered
Keating was rightly given the largest ovation
Yer classy wasnt it, turning Whitlams funeral into a popularity contest for most beloved Labor PM. As for Whitlam he was a clearly a bit of a gloryhunter, obviously no good to last more than one term but jammed enough dogooding to earn a seat at the right hand of god. +1.... You realise he's a troll right? don't care if he is, the post is accurate +1
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notorganic wrote:batfink wrote:notorganic wrote:batfink wrote:notorganic wrote:killua wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:I have no idea where ricey got his views from saying unions pressure people to join . None of the unions I joined have never pressured me to join . I guess people are using that view to attack unions without any proof that os happening In my first job as a teenager in a supermarket, we were all pressured to join whatever union covered us at the time. Not intense pressure, but you would have a rep walking up to 15 year olds telling them they had to join. Yeah, this is the best description of "pressure" to join unions. It's a long way from the standover nonsense that finklestein asserts. just so you get it right Matt, the standover tactics i talk about are not that on union membership, they are the stand over tactics used to extort money and influence over who wins jobs and how to keep those job free of union trouble, you should have watched the ABC four corners earlier this week for a full and convincing endorsement of what i have been saying I have seen it, BTW. It's not widespread in the union movement. Heck, it's not even widespread in the CFMEU. lol..........sure mate, i been in the construction industry for over 35 years and if you believe that your dumber than you look......LOL ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) I look dumb? What a hurtful thing to say :( CMFEU are the worst union ever. Been on a site where they had a full time representative and they were disruptive for the sake of it. Cunts like this are a problem not a solution to workplace issues.
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benelsmore wrote:notorganic wrote:batfink wrote:notorganic wrote:batfink wrote:notorganic wrote:killua wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:I have no idea where ricey got his views from saying unions pressure people to join . None of the unions I joined have never pressured me to join . I guess people are using that view to attack unions without any proof that os happening In my first job as a teenager in a supermarket, we were all pressured to join whatever union covered us at the time. Not intense pressure, but you would have a rep walking up to 15 year olds telling them they had to join. Yeah, this is the best description of "pressure" to join unions. It's a long way from the standover nonsense that finklestein asserts. just so you get it right Matt, the standover tactics i talk about are not that on union membership, they are the stand over tactics used to extort money and influence over who wins jobs and how to keep those job free of union trouble, you should have watched the ABC four corners earlier this week for a full and convincing endorsement of what i have been saying I have seen it, BTW. It's not widespread in the union movement. Heck, it's not even widespread in the CFMEU. lol..........sure mate, i been in the construction industry for over 35 years and if you believe that your dumber than you look......LOL ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) I look dumb? What a hurtful thing to say :( CMFEU are the worst union ever. Been on a site where they had a full time representative and they were disruptive for the sake of it. Cunts like this are a problem not a solution to workplace issues. Another right wing nut uses n=1 example to further ideological slant. Nothing to see here folks.
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batfink wrote:marconi101 wrote:batfink wrote:rusty wrote:marconi101 wrote:Keating, Hawke and Gillard were given standing ovations at Gough's memorial today. Howard and Abbott booed and jeered
Keating was rightly given the largest ovation
Yer classy wasnt it, turning Whitlams funeral into a popularity contest for most beloved Labor PM. As for Whitlam he was a clearly a bit of a gloryhunter, obviously no good to last more than one term but jammed enough dogooding to earn a seat at the right hand of god. +1.... You realise he's a troll right? don't care if he is, the post is accurate 
He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.
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RedKat wrote:rusty wrote:marconi101 wrote:Keating, Hawke and Gillard were given standing ovations at Gough's memorial today. Howard and Abbott booed and jeered
Keating was rightly given the largest ovation
Edited by marconi101: 5/11/2014 09:12:49 PM Yer classy wasnt it, turning Whitlams funeral into a popularity contest for most beloved Labor PM. As for Whitlam he was a clearly a bit of a gloryhunter, obviously no good to last more than one term but jammed enough dogooding to earn a seat at the right hand of god. Edited by rusty: 5/11/2014 10:20:55 PM Go on then explain how the things Whitlam is being praised for was actually bad... Well he did a lot of things but he had no clue how they would be funded, other than leaving it to future governments, including his own, to figure it out including reversing some of his policy decisions. It would be like you or me becoming PM and then announcing free education, free public transport, free housing for the homeless, free internet etc and totally obliterating the economy in the process to secure your own legacy. Thats what Whitlam did, shook the country of all its spare change and more to fund his vision.
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notorganic wrote:benelsmore wrote:notorganic wrote:batfink wrote:notorganic wrote:batfink wrote:notorganic wrote:killua wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:I have no idea where ricey got his views from saying unions pressure people to join . None of the unions I joined have never pressured me to join . I guess people are using that view to attack unions without any proof that os happening In my first job as a teenager in a supermarket, we were all pressured to join whatever union covered us at the time. Not intense pressure, but you would have a rep walking up to 15 year olds telling them they had to join. Yeah, this is the best description of "pressure" to join unions. It's a long way from the standover nonsense that finklestein asserts. just so you get it right Matt, the standover tactics i talk about are not that on union membership, they are the stand over tactics used to extort money and influence over who wins jobs and how to keep those job free of union trouble, you should have watched the ABC four corners earlier this week for a full and convincing endorsement of what i have been saying I have seen it, BTW. It's not widespread in the union movement. Heck, it's not even widespread in the CFMEU. lol..........sure mate, i been in the construction industry for over 35 years and if you believe that your dumber than you look......LOL ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) I look dumb? What a hurtful thing to say :( CMFEU are the worst union ever. Been on a site where they had a full time representative and they were disruptive for the sake of it. Cunts like this are a problem not a solution to workplace issues. Another right wing nut uses n=1 example to further ideological slant. Nothing to see here folks.
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marconi101 wrote:batfink wrote:marconi101 wrote:batfink wrote:rusty wrote:marconi101 wrote:Keating, Hawke and Gillard were given standing ovations at Gough's memorial today. Howard and Abbott booed and jeered
Keating was rightly given the largest ovation
Yer classy wasnt it, turning Whitlams funeral into a popularity contest for most beloved Labor PM. As for Whitlam he was a clearly a bit of a gloryhunter, obviously no good to last more than one term but jammed enough dogooding to earn a seat at the right hand of god. +1.... You realise he's a troll right? don't care if he is, the post is accurate same back at you , Edited by batfink: 7/11/2014 06:45:31 AM
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rusty wrote:RedKat wrote:rusty wrote:marconi101 wrote:Keating, Hawke and Gillard were given standing ovations at Gough's memorial today. Howard and Abbott booed and jeered
Keating was rightly given the largest ovation
Edited by marconi101: 5/11/2014 09:12:49 PM Yer classy wasnt it, turning Whitlams funeral into a popularity contest for most beloved Labor PM. As for Whitlam he was a clearly a bit of a gloryhunter, obviously no good to last more than one term but jammed enough dogooding to earn a seat at the right hand of god. Edited by rusty: 5/11/2014 10:20:55 PM Go on then explain how the things Whitlam is being praised for was actually bad... Well he did a lot of things but he had no clue how they would be funded, other than leaving it to future governments, including his own, to figure it out including reversing some of his policy decisions. It would be like you or me becoming PM and then announcing free education, free public transport, free housing for the homeless, free internet etc and totally obliterating the economy in the process to secure your own legacy. Thats what Whitlam did, shook the country of all its spare change and more to fund his vision. 100% accurate....... but doubt s will get it Edited by batfink: 7/11/2014 06:46:35 AM
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notorganic wrote:benelsmore wrote:notorganic wrote:batfink wrote:notorganic wrote:batfink wrote:notorganic wrote:killua wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:I have no idea where ricey got his views from saying unions pressure people to join . None of the unions I joined have never pressured me to join . I guess people are using that view to attack unions without any proof that os happening In my first job as a teenager in a supermarket, we were all pressured to join whatever union covered us at the time. Not intense pressure, but you would have a rep walking up to 15 year olds telling them they had to join. Yeah, this is the best description of "pressure" to join unions. It's a long way from the standover nonsense that finklestein asserts. just so you get it right Matt, the standover tactics i talk about are not that on union membership, they are the stand over tactics used to extort money and influence over who wins jobs and how to keep those job free of union trouble, you should have watched the ABC four corners earlier this week for a full and convincing endorsement of what i have been saying I have seen it, BTW. It's not widespread in the union movement. Heck, it's not even widespread in the CFMEU. lol..........sure mate, i been in the construction industry for over 35 years and if you believe that your dumber than you look......LOL ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) I look dumb? What a hurtful thing to say :( CMFEU are the worst union ever. Been on a site where they had a full time representative and they were disruptive for the sake of it. Cunts like this are a problem not a solution to workplace issues. Another right wing nut uses n=1 example to further ideological slant. Nothing to see here folks. another left wing crony dreaming in the ideological ether
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notorganic wrote:benelsmore wrote:notorganic wrote:batfink wrote:notorganic wrote:batfink wrote:notorganic wrote:killua wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:I have no idea where ricey got his views from saying unions pressure people to join . None of the unions I joined have never pressured me to join . I guess people are using that view to attack unions without any proof that os happening In my first job as a teenager in a supermarket, we were all pressured to join whatever union covered us at the time. Not intense pressure, but you would have a rep walking up to 15 year olds telling them they had to join. Yeah, this is the best description of "pressure" to join unions. It's a long way from the standover nonsense that finklestein asserts. just so you get it right Matt, the standover tactics i talk about are not that on union membership, they are the stand over tactics used to extort money and influence over who wins jobs and how to keep those job free of union trouble, you should have watched the ABC four corners earlier this week for a full and convincing endorsement of what i have been saying I have seen it, BTW. It's not widespread in the union movement. Heck, it's not even widespread in the CFMEU. lol..........sure mate, i been in the construction industry for over 35 years and if you believe that your dumber than you look......LOL ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) I look dumb? What a hurtful thing to say :( CMFEU are the worst union ever. Been on a site where they had a full time representative and they were disruptive for the sake of it. Cunts like this are a problem not a solution to workplace issues. Another right wing nut uses n=1 example to further ideological slant. Nothing to see here folks. You're a complete wank :roll: Sorry, i forget that anything you don't agree with is wrong. The example I will use is excavation stability. I was hired to assess the stability. CMFEU had a wobbly because I conveyed my findings to a representative of Theiss only and the union wasn't contacted for comment. The result was that I had to waste 3 hours (non-chargable) to go and re-assess the same thing so that the union was happy. That is how I qualify my above point. So you're wrong, ignorant and go fuck yourself :)
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"I had to do 3 hours unpaid work because I didn't follow agreed procedure the first time. Clear corruption, go fuck yourself"
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He was a man of specific quirks. He believed that all meals should be earned through physical effort. He also contended, zealously like a drunk with a political point, that the third dimension would not be possible if it werent for the existence of water.
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notorganic wrote:"I had to do 3 hours unpaid work because I didn't follow agreed procedure the first time. Clear corruption, go fuck yourself" Damn unions with their red tape.
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mcjules wrote:[youtube]fuDTMmxGStE[/youtube]
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notorganic wrote:"I had to do 3 hours unpaid work because I didn't follow agreed procedure the first time. Clear corruption, go fuck yourself" There wasn't a procedure. My procedure is reporting to my Client, not a union rep. The union rep was meant to get a copy of any reports I sent, that was all. You're still ignorant and wrong :)
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notorganic wrote:"I had to do 3 hours unpaid work because I didn't follow agreed procedure the first time. Clear corruption, go fuck yourself" Also use the correct terminology, it was non-chargable. I got paid, my company did not, which is unfair. Isn't that what unions are for?
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Of course we can thank the bourgeoisie for our eight hour working day and our two days of rest can't we.....and whilst we're there let's get the 10 - 14 year olds back down the mines...the proletariat have good money to make for the bourgeoisie you know....
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benelsmore wrote:notorganic wrote:"I had to do 3 hours unpaid work because I didn't follow agreed procedure the first time. Clear corruption, go fuck yourself" There wasn't a procedure. My procedure is reporting to my Client, not a union rep. The union rep was meant to get a copy of any reports I sent, that was all. You're still ignorant and wrong :) If theiss had an agreement with the union then you have to follow that . Don't be a dick and upset the status quo
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:benelsmore wrote:notorganic wrote:"I had to do 3 hours unpaid work because I didn't follow agreed procedure the first time. Clear corruption, go fuck yourself" There wasn't a procedure. My procedure is reporting to my Client, not a union rep. The union rep was meant to get a copy of any reports I sent, that was all. You're still ignorant and wrong :) If theiss had an agreement with the union then you have to follow that . Don't be a dick and upset the status quo There wasn't one. In a contract where a consultant provides a professional assessment to a client, having an unrelated entity insisting on being involved makes things unnecessarily difficult. Their conduct was consistent;y unprofessional on the site in question. Have you worked with constructions based engineers before? Edited by benelsmore: 8/11/2014 12:04:35 AM
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benelsmore wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:benelsmore wrote:notorganic wrote:"I had to do 3 hours unpaid work because I didn't follow agreed procedure the first time. Clear corruption, go fuck yourself" There wasn't a procedure. My procedure is reporting to my Client, not a union rep. The union rep was meant to get a copy of any reports I sent, that was all. You're still ignorant and wrong :) If theiss had an agreement with the union then you have to follow that . Don't be a dick and upset the status quo There wasn't one. In a contract where a consultant provides a professional assessment to a client, having an unrelated entity insisting on being involved makes things unnecessarily difficult. Their conduct was consistent;y unprofessional on the site in question. Have you worked with constructions based engineers before? Edited by benelsmore: 8/11/2014 12:04:35 AM real experiences do not matter to this bunch, they object and deny just for the sake of it and to frustrate and troll.....i know that some unions and union reps are corrupt, you know that some unions and union reps are corrupt, why bother trying to convince the uninitiated to your experiences with these unions? i have witnessed and been targeted by the unions for no good reason.
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Joffa wrote:Of course we can thank the bourgeoisie for our eight hour working day and our two days of rest can't we.....and whilst we're there let's get the 10 - 14 year olds back down the mines...the proletariat have good money to make for the bourgeoisie you know.... what a ridiculous statement, what has any of this to do with union corruption????
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