So Tony is upping the fear factor again and trying to act tough because they're trying to get this ridiculous data retention policy through. In the senate commitee hearings it was established that:
* There's no evidence that data retention helps prevent crime
* They have no idea how much it's going to cost
* It's easily circumvented by anyone who wants to

Good government hasn't started yet. It will start some time in 2016 if people don't get fooled by these clowns.

"THE PUBLIC DON'T LIKE ME BECAUSE I'M NOT EXTREME ENOUGH"

Okay Tony, go take a lie down.

Comments such as?

:-$

"But....but....but.....that's different!"

Really? That's being chewed out? Poor little Tony.
Social standards change over the years. Personally, I think less would be made of it if he hadn't made gaffe after gaffe already.

"But...but....but....social standards have changed!"

Because those two weren't embarrassments to this country.

-PB

That says a lot about the actions of the media

Exactly.

Murdoch has his eggs squarely in the LNP basket as it benefits him most there.

-PB

It's pretty hard to take any comments about media bias and character assassination claims from rusty when he blatantly condones it when it suits him.

On another note, Turnbull is going to get wrapped over the knuckles for this Q&A appearance tonight. Perhaps Tony can make another captain's call?

He didnt even answer the last question.

Nope he didn't. He also used it as a leadership audition and waffled on endlessly.

Tony tried to get him to answer or get the show moving on and malcom just waffled and called him out . At least lisa Wilkinson try to goad :lol:

Oh I didn't realise Rupert controlled Fairfax, the ABC and all the television networks. What a fine portfolio.

Making a Captains call is hardly a sackable offense. Perhaps insulation installers getting electrocuted, homes burning down, locking thousands of kids in detention and thousands of asylum seekers drowning at sea, or billion dollar deficits and gross debt approaching a trillion dollars are sackable offences, giving a knighthood to a British monarch might be offensive but surely not as offensive as people dying, kids in detention, trillion dollar debt burden etc?

Lefties always sweating the small stuff.

No, just the ones with majority shares.

I guess if Fairfax or ABC come out with something different it's simply that "lefty agenda!"

-PB

rusty, can you please add the following to your sig:

Authorised by Brian Loughnane, Liberal Party of Australia, Cnr Blackall & Macquarie Streets, Barton ACT 2600

When he came to office, Tony Abbott doubled the deficit by adding $68 billion in new government spending. Compared to the Budget books at the last election, this financial year’s deficit is now expected to increase by 70 per cent and net debt is forecast to be $33 billion more than expected.

But carry on ...

You can spout facts to rusty all day but this is all you'll get

I've always acknowledged the facts that due to Labors incompetence homes caught fire, insulation installers lost their lives, thousands of kids were locked up in detention centers and thousands of asylum seekers died at sea. That all the lefties ignore these distressing morbid facts but get all excited over TA making a "captains calls" reveals the warped, twisted mindset of the left.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/canberra-yearbook-how-our-politicians-looked-in-their-youth/story-e6freuy9-1227222444552

Oh dear, Dennis Napthine's wedding suit!

The notion that Libs "doubled the deficit" is complete sophistry. You have to understand that the ABC 'fact check' is in fact a "fact choke" whose authors twists, distorts and cherry picks data while omitting other data to present a biased, false outcome that is consistent with their personal ideologies. The authors arent even bond fide economists they are just journalists and don't have the expertise to be judging what is and isn't legit facts that are way above their pay grade.

At least the dropped the debt fallacy and yes they did those things wrong. It was encouraging Catherine King acknowledge that both parties were to blame in that Human Rights Commission report on Q&A last night.

Regarding the home insulation tragedy


You can keep highlighting captain calls as the big issue I have if you like. The issues I have with your party (let's face it if you are not a card carrying member of the Liberal party you should be):
1. People dying in detention or in their country of origin when they're incorrectly found to not be refugees
2. Can't manage a budget - cut good taxes and increase spending blowing out our deficit even more
3. Attack low income people to benefit big (often multinational) business
4. Look after their donors to the detriment of the people
5. NBN destruction for the benefit of Telstra (I know this is a big tick for you)
6. Incompetent leader that continuously embarrasses us on the big stage
7. All other policies (like data retention) have lacked evidence to support them and are ideologically driven

All this makes them far and away the worst government this country has ever had.

Don't even bother replying rusty because I know your response

:lol:

=d> =d> =d> agreed with you on rusty . He will somehow turn this into a lnp blame labour

So what you are saying is you know more than they do? You attack their credibility without refuting the facts.

Q) How many LNP politicians does it take to change a lightbulb?

A) No one knows. They all stand around blaming the blown bulb on the previous tenant, and the strata committee for not letting them change the sofa instead.

:lol:

Alan Jones giving the Shadow Treasurer an absolute hiding on Jones and Richo. Bowen didn't know that the tax free threshold was $18,200 and when asked what the next tax rate he said twice it was 15%, when it's actually 19%. The guy who wants to run Australias finances. It will be interesting to see how the media reacts, if it was Hockey or Abbott who made the same gaffe there would be an absolute shitstorm.

I see the movie 'Gasland' is coming out attacking fraking. My god the misinformation about csg in this country is frightening.