Todays little speech will be chock full of stupid buzzword tag lines like all of Tony's reign has been so far.

"No longer giving the benefit of the doubt"

"Time to re-draw the lines"

FFS.

This inept kunt.

-PB

It's getting harder and harder to apply Hanlons Razor to these mongrel fucks.

Yep it's one of the reasons I don't vote Labor.

This is seriously the most terrifying speech I have ever heard a PM make.

Really? What is he saying? Is he threatening to blow up the ME? Is going to execute all Muslims? It sounds pretty bad..:(

can you post a link?

Any quotes?

Can someone give me the gist of it? Can't listen to it at work.

Brown people bad, white people good.

Couldn't find the full vid on youtube yet, it'll be up soon I'm sure.

My tldr :

Being Australian is great, we love Australian values. "The Death Cult (tm)" wants to take our freedoms away so we need to take away your individual freedoms and your privacy so the terrorists don't win. Young Muslims are being seduced by "The Death Cult (tm)" when they are alienated from society and self-radicalised so we're going to clamp down harder on Young Muslims and alienate more of them. 

It's not like they're going to be monitoring your posts on 442, 443, and having round table discussions and web conferences with CIA regarding your internet usage. There's millions of Australians using the internet everyday as if they are going to care what riff raff like you and me look at on the net. Your precious civil liberties won't be trampled on because unless you're looking up kiddie porn or planning a terrorist attack your precious data will stay a secret, you are simply no concern.

I have no concern with ASIO monitoring my data because I know they're not gonna waste precious time and resources on a joe blow like me - but I understand some people so feel so important and special that they think they will be personally targeted. I actually feel like this measure enhances my civil liberties because it will enable ASIO to more effectively detect and track terrorist behaviour and I can't think of anything more violating of civil liberties than to be beheaded or blown up.

Stock standard response for any leader slipping in the polls is to create a national security threat and then look all statesman like in defending us from it.

Always wins votes.

You clearly have no technical knowledge about what you can do with mass data warehousing, I kindly request you stop posting about this topic and the NBN as you are way out of your depth.

I kinda wish rusty would get blown up or beheaded.

The old "drawing the line" tag.

FFS.

-PB

I just rattled off my own drawn line to my local MP. Hopefully it wasn't strident enough to put me on a watchlist, but strident enough to show I mean business.

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-PB

The symbolism in this photo makes me ill.

I'm glad the government is taking a proactive aggressive response to terrorism. I get that there are people out there who think showering terrorist groups like ISIS and their sympathisers with love and compassion might get them to change their minds and become do gooder citizens, but such thought is terribly naive. Words, love, tolerance kindness won't dissuade those who want to establish a caliphate and roll out shariah law here in Australia, laws which are unambiguous and punitive will give us the best chance of countering terrorism.

I sense some people are fearful that taking action against terrorist and their sympathisers might result in some blow back, but whatever we do a terrorist attack is probably inevitable and doing nothing won't do anything to stop those who are hellbent on creating an Islamic society in Australia. These people don't want to live in an open, tolerant society respecting of their beliefs, they want to establish Islam here and if that means blowing up bombs and beheading random citizens then we shouldn't the status quo will continue to work when it's obviously failing.

Storing people's data will not stop terrorism. The police have already foiled a number of attacks without the need to store data.

Lone wolf's like Monis won't be stopped because they aren't collaborating with anyone.

"I love freedom so much that I want it forcibly taken from me to prevent it being taken by someone else"

"Liberal"

lel

On a side note, trying to find info on this story and the internet news media pages are being dominated by "Naomi Watt are you wearing" stories from the Oscars.

FFS. Our society.

Do you have an opinion on data retention?

Rustys arguments have been thoroughly dismantled, he's now essentially just an echo chamber and is mocked accordingly. He has been invited many times to engage with the argument at hand and has ignored it.

And where did you get your Masters of Computer Science from?

I don't know anyone who thinks data retention is going to stop terrorism. Guns won't stop crime, it doesn't mean cops should stop using guns.

I guess this would make you have seizures then? Can you imagine the media frenzy were TA to raise a flag in parliament chambers?

I've made my position on terrorism clear. What you've avoided this whole time is making an argument on the central issue of how terrorism, terrorists and their sympathisers should be dealt with. It's obvious you don't have any clear ideas or solutions here, so you just stick to peripheral issues such a data retention which are ostensibly less confronting than terrorism, but you can magnify 1000x in your mind and make out as if it's the big issue.

There's no point arguing with someone who refuses to argue the central issue or denies its existence completely.

You really are a fuckwit. How about a bit of context?

"Tribute: In parliament Miss Gillard produced a battered Australian flag found by a military helicopter in the mud left by the floods. She said it represented 'what it means to face the elements'"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1354797/Australian-PM-Julia-Gillard-cries-Jordan-Rice-death-outburst-ploy.html#ixzz3SX1ZKUnc

As opposed to some sort of jingoistic appeal to the masses.

Christine Milne probably had the most competent presser of her career after Tonez' little speech.

This. The other part that rusty ignores is the fact that he's making essentially a political speech at the AFP headquarters. :oops: