can you identify what is classified as rich??

Gold plated toilet.

The rich already pay all of the income tax in this welfare state of ours ;)

and here i was thinking it was your shit didn't stink??

why in the world would he do that?? Fucking idiot :lol:

:lol: It was on his plan to do it. Incompetence from the top down. This wasn't a small embankment. It's in Springwood south of Brisbane City and is about 4m high. If it slipped (it was all fill material) imagine how fucked the motorway would be as well as the resulting traffic shit storm.

Maybe as a "senior" site engineer he had seen this kind of situation before over many years and deemed the excavation capable of not collapsing.

One minute a bloke has a degree but no common sense and the next he has years of experience but is an idiot.

What are you arguing again? I'm confused.

This will blow your mind a bit. Had to see a solicitor once about some dramas I was having and as luck would have it there was a solicitor on the team I was playing with.

In I went for some general advice and straight off the bat he tells me that his normal charge out rate is $500 / hr but seeing as we were mates he'd only bill me $300 / hr.

$1000 for a review of the docs, a discussion of the docs and some advice via email.

How anyone can afford to get proper representation is beyond me. If that bloke spent a full working week on your case you'd be $20k in the hole ! !

oh I know where that is. Again why on earth wouls he do that. Fuck sake just cos its in your plans doesnt mean you should go right ahead and do it. What ever happened to common sense .

Because maybe someone smarter than the junior engineer sat down with his slide rule and log tables and decided that, having applied the appropriate safety factors that, in his esteemed opinion and experience built up over many years, that that excavation would stand up.

It's not rocket science. It's engineering.

Umm benelsmore stated it was a senior site engineer. Not a junior cadet. Hell my trainer is a builder and is still bewildered by some of his site supervisors lack of awareness.

Benelsmore is the Junior engineer in this story.

The senior site engineer followed the plans which, seeing they were on site as the construction issue, were no doubt designed and certified by a geotechnical / structural engineer that knew his shit. Likely also that the design would have been internally reviewed by his colleagues and deemed appropriate.

If there were doubts and they were valid then by all means bring them up but if some spotty 3 years out engineer tried to tell me what was what when I've been doing the job for 20 years and I thought it was going to be fine I wouldn't be the happiest chappy.

Umm benelsmore didnt say he was a jnr engineer. He is a geo technical engineer . Pretty sure he is qualified pal.

He is a geotech and he is a junior engineer. They're not mutually exclusive.

I'd say 3 years out based on his charge out rate and the fact he's not an RPEQ yet.

Irrespective of that the rest of my comments still stand. What you, or he, thinks is silly or dangerous or wrong may be fine.

And just some free advice for Benels. You should limit slagging off your fellow professionals because engineering in Qld is a very small club.

So your an engineer now too :lol:

Join the dots.

Fuck me you're a pretentious git.

Keks everywhere.

-PB

I'd say someone who's slagging off a fellow professional on an internet forum with enough details to trace it back to who might have been involved is more at fault. Munrubenz somewhat right to pull him up on it IMO.

I wasn't trying to pull him up on it. He may well be right.

But unless he's spoken to the design engineer (because it was on the plans right) then who knows if it was foolhardy or not.

I don't think there's any real drama talking about blokes he's having trouble dealing with here getting back to anyone on site. It was more a general comment that the engineering fraternity in QLD is a very small group of professionals and word gets around quick so it may pay to be a little circumspect around your colleagues.

That was all.

Not sure what 433 is on about. Just the usual add nothing of value rubbish I suppose.

the killing season on ABC?

I have no doubt that this assessment would have not been his alone.

Also unlikely to be real drama but you never know. I'm general though there was a bit too much detail. I'm not in the industry but if it's anything like mine I'd be able to find out everything about that project.

Having worked in Brisbane and Adelaide, they're both small enough that you'd want to make sure not to burn bridges. It's not a bad policy anywhere really.

reading these recent post proves my point about over educated fuckwits

How do any of the recent posts prove any part of that? All that it shows is that there are plenty of over opinionated fuckwits in this thread (you and I included).

Edited by mcjules: 10/6/2015 08:18:18 AM

No. It's not his job to make that call. That's the problem with jack of all trades people. They think they know everything about everything because they have 'senior' in front of their title.

Or under-educated 8-[

-PB

lol...two engineers arguing about who is right....!!!!

the amount of times i get documents from Engineers and what they propose just can't be done, won't work or is documented incorrectly is astounding.......and they won't admit it's wrong.....

Also lol @ Hockey squirming about "playing the man" re: Marius Benson this morning.

-PB

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