its progress mate
why are you against change? all change is good havent you heard?

It must be horrible only being able to do one thing at a time. How do you manage to post when you need to keep breathing?

I honestly don't care if gays get married.

But it's so obvious it's being used as a tool to distract from actually important issues that will affect alot of people.



Enjoy having your tax dollars going to multinational corporations, enjoy your internet freedoms going away, enjoy lowered food and energy production standards and enjoy investment banks dicking our country.

But as long as gays can get married right?

You fucking imbecile.




Edited by 433: 27/6/2015 07:49:16 PM

mcdunce as usual has nothing of substance to offer to discussion but adhominem attacks

by the way, I dont use blue text for sarcasm either. fuck that.
the point of sarcasm is not to telegraph it but leave it up to the intellect of the audience to interpret it

=d> :lol:
People have posting (myself included) about those things for months. The people trying to distract are ones that say "that isn't as important as issue x".

Things don't happen linearly in government, in fact the latest attempt is a private member's bill put to parliament by the opposition leader so it didn't waste one second of the government's time in being devised. Even if it did, there is more than one parliamentarian and they each have a number of staff supporting them.

One final tip, when people prioritise things sometimes it's not just by how important it is but they also do some analysis on impacts and effort required. The marriage equality bill is a very simple amendment to the current legislation.

I know ricey, everything you post I treat as sarcasm.

one very simple amendment to the current legislation?

put down the pipe

state's rights have been overridden on a socially contentious issue by unelected officials. why because there's no way the public in the USA would've supported such a measure en masse across every state

Heh must have hit quote instead of edit before. I'll just leave this here for the one above.


Edited by mcjules: 27/6/2015 09:45:19 PM

look at mcdunce posting dopey memes multiple times as a study into the level of intellect we're dealing with here

"The people who are trying to distract you from issue x are telling you to pay attention to issue x."

Ok m8.



What are you on about?

Edited by 433: 27/6/2015 08:43:14 PM

:lol: :lol: :lol: one can only assume he read it on some left wing blog and has no idea himself

The TPP and marriage equality are not even remotely related. You can be against the TPP and for marriage equality and there is no conflict. The point I'm making to be much clearer, is that the 2 issues are in completely different ministerial portfolios so it's not like they can't do both at the same time.

If you want to talk about the TPP just post about it.

Democracy at its finest.

I agree with you there, but that's not what I'm arguing.

I'm merely stating that the majority of people won't give two shits about the TPP (despite it having a much larger impact on them), and will be fixated on the gay marriage issue (or should I say non-issue) instead.

It's extremely coincidental that the supreme court comes to their decision during the time in which the TPP has been given fast-track authority.

Edited by 433: 27/6/2015 10:09:10 PM

433 mate, its a theory you have and it may or may not be true - I dont know. distractions are often used when contentious legislation is being passed.
the most notable was the Defense Authorisation Act which was signed off on New Years Eve of all times.

however you're drawing a long bow to assume its true unless you have more evidence. its pointless even raising it with this crowd because they believe everything the ABC tells them and wouldnt dream that the great Obama and the uncorruptable American Legal System would engage in such underhanded practices

Whatever you say ricey. You're right we are wrong we get it . You need to be right all the time. Your parents must be so proud

dont cry mate

You literally contribute nothing to this thread but attack Ricey. You get pissed at him for his adhom attacks and supposed abusive/condescending posting, yet you go and do the exact same thing?

Ok I see what you're saying. It's possible as the supreme court is not without its political influence but I can see the TPP being trumpeted as a victory whenever the US signs on to it. It definitely will be the case here.

Edited by mcjules: 27/6/2015 10:27:24 PM

TPP will probably be great for the US, ...fucked for Australia

Don't be a bigot. Or am I to believe you preface all weddings.
"Hey boss, need Monday off. I'm going to a friends heterosexual wedding".
"Sure, but I don't know why anyone gets married. My interracial marriage turned into such a hard ordeal."

you're calling me a bigot now?

why?

Your sentence literally singles out a group of people and implies 'gay' marriage, like it is a distinct seperate thing to the rest of the 'normal' marriages.

I often wonder but I can't quite pin point what it is about you. If I had to guess I would go with either mental illness, substance abuse or someone failed you when you were a child.

it is a distinct separate thing if you havent noticed.
its not legal in Australia. did you miss that part?

are you one of these people who believes in gender fluidity? yes or no?

wow. a snipe attack on the internet. that must've taken a lot of courage.
next.

Pretty sure it is still just called marriage in Australia, only that it is not accessible to some couples because the government wants to prohibit them.

If people feel or identify as gender fluid, who am I not to believe them. Why would they lie, for what gain.

so all people are equal in your eyes
there's no difference between men and women?

am I understanding you correctly?