Then go and punch him in the head. Or would you like an authority figure to do it for you?

Doesn't it tell you something that the Neo nazis want to associate themselves with reclaim Australia? These bigots are free to say what they want I just think they are nieve to think there is no consiquences for their hate speech.

Because it's easy. These are public events that are publicly advertised. No matter what you do, if you create a public event advertising patriotism, those fuckers will always show up.

I'd like our authority figures not to attend these rallies and encourage these low life pieces of shit. The liberal party believes otherwise.

Were there liberal party members there?

It never was about patriotism, it's about a warped sense of entitlement about the colour of your skin.

Yes, George Christianson gave a speech at one of the rallies.

What entitlement? Some stupid nazi fuckers aside where's the entitlement?

I don't think i know what you're referring to.

It's pretty clearly spelled out in the name. What exactly they think they are entitled to "reclaim" I'm not sure, I don't even think the protesters are entirely sure either.

Ah I see.

They're against multiculturalism obviously. Of course that means it's racist etc etc....

They're also against freedom of religion. How can you take these positions and not be bigoted?

No they shouldn't. This is not America, we don't have "freedom of speach" in the constitution so that hate speech can be criminalised. That is an important aspect of any modern society and should be protected. If anything their should be stronger protection so that nazi symbology should be banned like in Germany.

People should be entitled to their opinions. If I had your views i'd be for banning christianity because of some of the garbage it teaches. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you should remove it. That would mean criminalising religious texts which are prejudice or discriminatory. Not going to happen.

Separate the nazi element from the argument.

Who decides what constitutes "hate speech"?

The Americans do alot of things wrong, but their free speech laws are second to none.

From what I saw in news reports (including ABC - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-18/no-room-for-racism-and-reclaim-australia-protesters-clash/6630358) the counter-protesters were involved in violent scuffles with police.

Funny, they claim to be supportive of "freedom of speech" and being "anti-fascist" yet they sure contradict themselves a fair bit.

I hate Illinois nazi's.

Go read the Racial Discrimination Act 1975 (section 18 in Particular) and the Victoria Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001. They spell it out pretty clearly.



Yeah how utterly fantastic is it that awful people are allowed to go out and publicly call the black community "Niggers, Apes, Alligators, Coons and Possums".

What is your opinion on Zaky Mallah and his opinions?

I should have phrased that better - what gives someone the right to decide if something is "hate speech" or not?



What's that phrase about giving someone enough rope to hang themselves with?

What do we gain from silencing people with hateful opinions? Why not let people be aware of them so were know where they stand?

Add imperialist and cracker to that list. Oh wait no, never mind, racism is only for white people......

When all the Muslims went ape shit in Sydney the other year holding signs saying "behead all those who insult islam" did the anti-racism group show up and support non Muslims?

[-x No truth bombs here please we are discussing ways that right wing sentiments can be made illegal you imperialist pig :lol:

Edited by benelsmore: 19/7/2015 09:16:56 AM

Agree. Hate speech is relative.

This bias is the reason I don't support them.

Exactly. Its not the responsibility of the government to suppress speech and thought.

If views are truly bigoted and hateful, then they will be shut down in a public debate. Never let the government tell you what you can and can't say and think. Democracy literally fails with this sentiment.

Chris Hitchen's said it well when he said there is no phrase more pathetic in the english language than the phrase "I'm offended."

All the right wing media demand that Muslims denounce extremists in their own community. But when Aussies do it we are "attacking freedom of speech"

Fucking piss weak maggots punching down and hiding behind "freedom of speech"

It takes strength to stand up for freedom of speech.

Australia is not a religion.