The strength of our bid lie in the fact that we are offering a community team, not a franchise, with history, playing out a boutique stadium.

Join Olympic and you join a family.

I don't argue that. However, a club has to start from somewhere, I doubt Olympic existed before they were created.

join our family!

Correct. And we were created by the fans. Not a franchise.

Sydney Olympic: A club which respects it's fans.

Who is to say that 50 years down the track that West Sydney couldn't have a great club and fans. In an ideal world, yes it would be good not to have to create clubs but the fact of the matter is, we have ten teams in our top flight, who knows maybe soon to be 9 teams. Ex NSl/NSWPL clubs have their part to play in the growth of the game and so do new clubs and West Sydney is an obvious choice for one of those.

Best of luck guys.

Personally, I think Olympic don't even have a small chance of getting a licence to play in the A-League. Will never happen. The game has moved on. There would be too many issues if it happened. The media, corporate sponsors and spin doctors would have a field day.

Do you really think that the corporates want to be associated with "ethnic" clubs? No they don't. Modern Australia isn't about that at all. The game and country has moved on.

But all respect, for giving it a go and like I said good luck.

Another thing that I have noticed is that Olympic (the actual club) have made no noise about this alleged bid? Is this bid simply spin put forward by its fans.

Couldn't agree more.

Olympic is a proud and very historic club.

Who is behind this bid? Sydney Olympic the club have not made any noise, press statements or even started a campaign to gather support.

All I see is spin put forward by its Ultras on social networking sites and football forums.

How can your bid have any credibility?

With the current state of affairs in the HAL why would Olympic want to be part of it any way?

If they can afford to lose $4Million pa then I'm sure the FFA would consider them.

Oh I see. This topic is another olympic joke thread.

I thought for a second you blokes were serious.

LOL have fun...

“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” - Ghandi

Are we up to stage two ;)

aren't most clubs there for that reason? supporting a certain community?

what has the best chance of drawing the bigger crowd, olympic in the HAL or a western sydney team in the HAL?
yes you can point to the NWSPL final but your kidding yourself if you would have got that crowd with ANY other NWSPL team other than united.
yes olympic is at a big advantage over the western sydney bid as it already has some infrastructure and finances in place. but western sydney has much more potential.
there are many future western sydney supporters who dont have any links to any NWSPL teams (they may watch them due to their love of football but they dont support one particular team), these are the people that will come and watch the western sydney team.
as for uniting the supporters of clubs in the NWSPL, yes there will be some that dont want anything to do with western sydney (and in a way credit to them) but there will be some that will.
i dont know how this olympic vs western sydney debate started and tbh its pretty much irrelevent as olympic wont represent the western sydney area. but if the FFA are looking at introducing a team that will reach more people then it has to be western sydney

of course that will be a target for any western sydney bid. they would be stupid not to try. if successful there is already a couple of thousand (adding all the NWSPL support) as well as creating links between the western sydney side and the NSWPL clubs. but the future of a western sydney bid isnt based on whether the supporters of a NSWPL side are either going to support or not support the western sydney team.
i guess there is no way to prove who is right until there is a team and the results will be seen

QFT.

Firstly, the Grand Final last year was not "10k people watching Olympic". A group of 5 of us who watch every game of our team who didn't qualify went as neutrals to watch the final. My breakdown of that crowd would have been 4K United, 1K neutral, 5K Olympic.

Any of the bigger ethnic clubs pull big crowds when the bandwagon rolls into town. The last time all 4 sides of Marconi Stadium were full was for the Belconnen v Bankstown GF. Sydney United filled the 3 open sides two years later. Bonnyrigg v Bankstown GF filled one entire side of Parramatta Stadium, and there was 7.5K at Blacktown v Bankstown GF at Penrith.

Sutherland v Wolves draw 2k to the final because they dont have supporters to join on a bandwagon.

The problem is not drawing people the the GF though, it's for regular season games. 3 digit crowds will not cut it at the top flight (disregard GCU).

I commend Olympic for trying to think at a national level, but the future for clubs like this is in a closed, eastern-seabord only A-2 League. If A-2 proves sustainable after a period of time, say 5-10 years, then it can be open for promotion/relegation to A-League and open to other teams Australia wide.

Official crowd at the NSWPL G.F ie tickets sold was 10,138

FNSW who ran the event ran out of tickets leaving 2000 or so people waiting outside the ground and thus delaying the start of the game for 30 mins, FNSW couldnt find any more tickets and were forced to let those people in for free, add to that the U16s who got in for free we're talking a crowd closer to 12-13k which is a great achievement for a game with no advertising and no publicity, I imagine in the a-league they would have those things right?

It shouldn't be, but at state level in this country, it is.

Can you expand on this? Maybe I am the wrong person as I play against these teams but I was flooded with adverstising for this. For anyone involved in football in NSW, they knew about the Premier League final.

Mltzer the issue has come from ur side of us vs WS.

Both of us have been screwed by the FFA (for different reasons obviously) but why are you guys pitting us vs them. Olympic1 is from WS and wanted a WS team as well.

Remember - we offer a tight, stable, sustainable model - Something that, given the current finances of many clubs, would be a massvie weight of the FFA's mind.

Remember - we offer a tight, stable, sustainable model - Something that, given the current finances of many clubs, would be a massvie weight of the FFA's mind.

so where were those masses back in the heyday when u were in the nsl? averaging 3-4k. please, it was a one off.

as a rockdale supporter, ive applauded the inititaives taking place at olympic recently and its largely visible on the field with tskea at the helm. but to extend that to justification for admission to the a-league is a far fetched proposition.

i dont know how you determine "tight, stable, sustainable model", maybe you can enlighten us a bit becuase last time i checked its a gigantic leap from bankrolling a state league team toan aleague franchise, et alone capturing the hearts and minds of a wider demographic to your traditional supporter base.

Finally someone on here with a bit of sense and reason, and can actually see what I do.

Olympic are clearly the most professional outfit in the NSWPL BUT to say they deserve to sit at the top table, is a ridiculous and preposterous suggestion.

Your right. It would be a massvie weight of the FFA's mind. =d>

Fortunately it isn't going to happen. So that is a massive weight off the western sydney fanbase's mind.

Belmore in the 90's mate - use to get officially - 6-7,000 - unofficially 8,000 plus. Not bad considering the limited promotion at the time.

Correct mate. Our life members dropped $16 million into the club and that was over 15 years ago. Belmore stadium comes cheap. It is the larger stadiums which are bleeding clubs dry.

It has a history which is drawing new fans to us. An alternate to the franchise model out there. A grass roots team.

The life members want to see the groundswell of support continue and a more open mind for the FFA. These are football people who will invest in the club, who love the game and the team.

I believe an economic plan has been drawn up by the club. I am not privy to it, but have been assured by a reliable source that it is water tight. We just need the FFA to open their hearts and minds to us.

Kolner, go through Olympic's history, whenever we have needed money, Olympic has always gotten it.

Can someone provide evidence of these huge crowds at Belmore in NSL days?

I've looked at a few random games and there have been a couple of derbies that drew between 8-12k... but the vast majority of games were under 5k

Ask anybody who doesnt have an agenda and they'll tell you Olympic were the biggest crowd pullers in the 80s and 90s

Putting aside the fact that Olympic in the old days used to be run by people who had their own best interests at heart instaed of the clubs.

There are many examples of 14-15k crowds regularly for big games at Leichhardt and Belmore and sometimes more and before that at St George Stadium but for whatever reason the club would officially announce crowds as being smaller than they actually were no doubt so the people running the club at the time could pocket extra money for themselves

Again FortressBelmore, I want to know how you think the game had no advertising and publicity?

It sounds like Olympic fans are just saying, well if we advertised it we would have had triple that.

Again, I am not having a go at the crowds, they are great and have been for years I just want to know how you think there was no advertising for that game?