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thupercoach wrote:afromanGT wrote:thupercoach wrote:I am not. All I am saying is that the Democrats' "Bush is a war monger" rhetoric is just that. They are no different. Cold War is still better than active combat. I am not sure what we have today can be termed a Cold War. I can see what you're saying - there are parallels - but America is just as interventionist as it was under Bush. Only the slogans and some methods of attack have changed. I actually feel the US is on a hiding to nothing in these conflicts, especially with the Arabs. Think about it - 9/11 was the most successful terrorist action of all time. It cost Al Qaida no more than a few hundred thousand dollars, a few million at the most, and they managed to not only kill thousands of people but more importantly for them, drag America into a war that cost them not only lives but trillions of dollars. Way to deplete the nation of its resources... The american interventionist nature is just the status quo from Henry Kissinger's foreign policy and that will never, ever change. Thanks to him their attitude has always been and will always be "we are the global power, we are the global police". As for "depleting a nation of its resources", the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq benefited US finances immensely. Their economy boomed. Nothing bolsters the economy quite like when we're all trying to kill each other. Their downfall was their own greed. The banks and their investors demanding increasingly bigger slices of the pie for short term profits made things unsustainable. Otherwise they would have been laughing. It's all well and good to say "well, it cost Al Qaeda comparatively fuck all" but don't forget, their resources are also comparatively fuck all.
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afromanGT wrote:thupercoach wrote:afromanGT wrote:thupercoach wrote:I am not. All I am saying is that the Democrats' "Bush is a war monger" rhetoric is just that. They are no different. Cold War is still better than active combat. I am not sure what we have today can be termed a Cold War. I can see what you're saying - there are parallels - but America is just as interventionist as it was under Bush. Only the slogans and some methods of attack have changed. I actually feel the US is on a hiding to nothing in these conflicts, especially with the Arabs. Think about it - 9/11 was the most successful terrorist action of all time. It cost Al Qaida no more than a few hundred thousand dollars, a few million at the most, and they managed to not only kill thousands of people but more importantly for them, drag America into a war that cost them not only lives but trillions of dollars. Way to deplete the nation of its resources... The american interventionist nature is just the status quo from Henry Kissinger's foreign policy and that will never, ever change. Thanks to him their attitude has always been and will always be "we are the global power, we are the global police". As for "depleting a nation of its resources", the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq benefited US finances immensely. Their economy boomed. Nothing bolsters the economy quite like when we're all trying to kill each other. Their downfall was their own greed. The banks and their investors demanding increasingly bigger slices of the pie for short term profits made things unsustainable. Otherwise they would have been laughing. It's all well and good to say "well, it cost Al Qaeda comparatively fuck all" but don't forget, their resources are also comparatively fuck all. Yes but they punch well above their weight. As for Kissinger, the preposterous man that he was (is?), the US was up to its neck in Cold War politics way back in the Korean War. The US foreign policy was shaped by the Cold War and the necessity to stand up to the Soviet bloc which had taken over half of Europe, parts of Asia, Africa and Central America and was working on South America as well. What we have today is just a continuation of that. The USSR is no longer a massive threat (though an important player once again) but there is a massive conflict going on with the terror groups of the Muslim world, which, while not officially sponsored by the Russians, is certainly being enjoyed by Russia and China who stand by in passive acquiescence. The Yanks have been dumb enough to have been tied into a conflict they can't win. And the reason they can't win is that they will not do whatever it takes to win it. So on it goes, depleting them of their resources. And on that subject - yes I know the MIC has made a mint out of the various wars and yes, it does employ a whole of of people over there, but the government is borrowing $$$ from the Chinese to pay the MIC to keep on producing weapons. I also feel that under Obama America is back to the Carter inertia that it went through post-Vietnam in the 1970s. Which means, stand by for a Reagan-style Republican to come in and kick ass next time round.
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ACS News Service Weekly PressPac: September 04, 2013 Almost 20 percent of grain in China lost or wasted from field to fork "Food Losses and Waste in China and Their Implication for Water and Land" Environmental Science & Technology A comprehensive new review of food waste in the People’s Republic of China has concluded that about 19 of every 100 pounds of grain produced in the country go to waste, with related losses of water for irrigation and farmland productivity. The report appears in ACS’ journal Environmental Science & Technology. Junguo Liu and colleagues point out that food waste is a global problem with an estimated one-third to one-half of food produced worldwide being lost or wasted from farm to fork. Estimates suggest that the United States wastes about 40 percent of food crops. The problem is especially acute in China. With only 6 percent of the world’s total water resources and barely 9 percent of the arable land, China nevertheless must feed 21 percent of the world’s population. Liu’s team set out to document loss and waste of food as a basis for developing policies that could help sustain the food supply in the future. They found that about 19 percent of rice, wheat and other grain in China is lost or wasted, with consumer waste accounting for the largest portion, 7 percent. The overall loss meant the waste of an estimated 177 billion cubic yards of water used to produce food grown but never eaten — a volume equal to the amount of water Canadian farmers use to grow all their crops. And it meant the waste of 64 million acres of cropland sown and harvested in vain. Liu and colleagues recommended several strategies, including raising public awareness, improving storage systems, mechanizing the harvest of grains and putting in place monitoring programs to track food waste with more precision. The authors acknowledge funding from the Ministry of Science and Technology of the People’s Republic of China, the National Natural Science Foundation of China, the Special Fund for Forestry Scientific Research in the Public Interest, the Organization Department of the Central Committee, the Fundamental Research Funds for the Central Universities and Nestlé. http://www.acs.org/content/acs/en/pressroom/presspacs/2013/acs-presspac-september-4-2013/almost-20-percent-of-grain-in-china-lost-or-wasted-from-field-to.html?
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Quote:Ariel Castro, Cleveland kidnapper, found hanged in prison cell By Lateef Mungin and Dave Alsup, CNN September 4, 2013 -- Updated 1149 GMT (1949 HKT) Watch this video Ariel Castro found hanging in his cell STORY HIGHLIGHTS Judge tells Castro there's no place in the world for him "I will live on. You will die a little every day," Knight tells him Castro lured the women into his car with the promise of a ride During his sentencing, Castro played the victim (CNN) -- Ariel Castro, who was sentenced to life plus 1,000 years for kidnapping and raping three women, as well as murder, was found hanging in his prison cell Tuesday night. Authorities found Castro, 52, hanging in his cell at the Correctional Reception Center in Orient, Ohio, about 9:20 p.m., the state's Department of Corrections said. Prison medical staff tried to revive him but failed. Castro was taken to The Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center where he was pronounced dead at 10:52 p.m. Why did Ariel Castro kill himself? Ariel Castro found hanging in his cell Reporter: Castro wasn't on suicide watch Castro's brother-in-law, Juan Alicea, told CNN that the family was notified by the warden about 1 a.m. The family is angry, Alicea said, that it learned about the death from media reports first. Another family member, Maria Castro Montes, said she cried when she heard the news. "I cried for several reasons. My first thoughts were if the girls knew. I am talking about the victims," said Castro Montes, Castro's cousin. "I immediately thought of them and what is going through their minds. Maybe this was for the best. I don't think they were ever going to find peace with him alive." Castro was not a part of the general prison population, officials said. "He was housed in protective custody which means he was in a cell by himself and rounds are required every 30 minutes at staggered intervals," JoEllen Smith of the corrections department told CNN in a statement. "A thorough review of this incident is underway," she added. 'Hope for everyone,' ex-captive says before Castro house demolished No place in the world In handing down a sentence last month, Judge Michael Russo told the kidnapper there was no place in the world for his brand of criminal. Castro pleaded guilty to 937 counts, including murder and kidnapping, in exchange for the death penalty being taken off the table. The charges stem from his kidnapping, rape and assault of three women: Michelle Knight, abducted in 2002; Georgina DeJesus, abducted in 2004; and Amanda Berry; abducted in 2003. Castro is the father of Berry's 6-year-old girl, DNA tests confirmed. Sylvia Colon, a family member and spokeswoman for DeJesus, said early Wednesday morning she had not heard about the death and had not yet spoken to her family about it. Castro's victims resilient after years of abuse 'You will die a little every day' All three women kept diaries with Castro's permission, providing many of the details of their abuse. "I cried every night. I was so alone. I worried what would happen to me and the other girls every day," Knight, 32, said, as she addressed her abductor head-on during his sentencing. "I will live on. You will die a little every day." In each case, Castro lured the women into his car with the promise of a ride, according to court documents. The women and girl were freed in May after Berry shouted for help while Castro was away. Knight: 'Your hell is just beginning' Judge paints lonely future for Castro Cleveland kidnap victims: Thank you 3 missing women found alive in Ohio Neighbors heard her cries and came to her aid as she tried to break through a door. One neighbor gave her a cell phone to call authorities. "Help me, I am Amanda Berry," she frantically told a 911 operator. "I've been kidnapped, and I've been missing for 10 years. And I'm here, I'm free now." Captives' hellish life inside Castro's home Plays the victim, blames the victims During his sentencing, Castro played the victim, saying he was addicted to porn and masturbation. In his oft-disjointed statement, he referred to himself as "very emotional" and "a happy person inside." Castro appeared to blame the victims and accused them of lying about their treatment. He went on to say that none of the women was a virgin when he abducted them, that they wanted sex and there was "harmony" in the "happy household." Castro's 1,400-square-foot home was reconfigured to keep their whereabouts a secret, FBI agent Andrew Burke testified. The back door was outfitted with an alarm, bedspreads and curtains obscured parts of them home and a porch swing was placed in front of the stairs leading to the rooms where Castro held the women and girl hostage. Police also testified Castro would chain the women to objects, including a support pole in his basement. In the room where Berry and her daughter were held, the doorknob was removed, a lock was affixed to the outside and a hole was cut through the door for ventilation because the windows had been boarded up from the inside, Burke said. Burke also described a handwritten letter in which Castro claimed he had been sexually abused as a child and wrote, "I am a sexual predator." Most dramatic moments from his sentencing 'You saved us' The first police officer on the scene, Barbara Johnson, recalled for the court how she and another officer heard the pitter-patter of footsteps in a dark room where Knight and DeJesus were held. When the captive women realized they were police, Knight "literally launched herself" onto an officer, "legs, arms, just choking him. She just kept repeating, 'You saved us! You saved us!' " Johnson said. The women were described as scared, pale, malnourished and dehydrated when they were rescued. Dr. Gerald Maloney, who was in the emergency room when the victims arrived, said Knight requested that no male physicians attend to her. Castro's son said he wouldn't visit dad in prison http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/04/justice/ariel-castro-cleveland-kidnapper-death/index.html?hpt=hp_t1Good to see he got his just desserts then.
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As an atheist sometimes I really wish there were fiery pits of hell in the afterlife...
Whatever's the opposite of RIP...
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Just like with capital punishment, dancing on someone's grave says more about us than them. And yet, it's somehow appropriate here...
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Keeps women locked in his basement for 10 years. Can't last 2 months in jail.
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thupercoach wrote:As an atheist sometimes I really wish there were fiery pits of hell in the afterlife...
Whatever's the opposite of RIP...
Edited by thupercoach: 5/9/2013 03:51:14 AM BIHMF. Burn in hell motherfucker. :lol:
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Legend Libero Moderator Joined: 8/31/2007 Posts: 55,734 David Cameron Hits Back At Putin: 'Britain Invented Most Things Worth Inventing' The Huffington Post UK/PA | Posted: 06/09/2013 10:23 BST | Updated: 06/09/2013 10:25 BST David Cameron has claimed Britain " invented most of the things worth inventing" as he issued an impassioned rebuttal of Russia's reported dismissal of Britain as a "small island" whose views can be ignored. Downing Street demanded "clarification" from the Kremlin yesterday of reported remarks by a spokesman for President Vladimir Putin, who was said to have told reporters that the UK was "just a small island: no one pays any attention to them". Putin's chief spokesman Dmitry Peskov denied that he was responsible for the comment, insisting it did not reflect the reality of Russia's views on its "positive" relations with the UK. But the Prime Minister told reporters: "I've been told that the Russians absolutely deny making the remark, and certainly no one's made it to me. "But let me be clear - Britain may be a small island, but I would challenge anyone to find a country with a prouder history, a bigger heart or greater resilience. "Britain is an island that has helped to clear the European continent of fascism and was resolute in doing that throughout the Second World War. "Britain is an island that helped to abolish slavery, that has invented most of the things worth inventing, including every sport currently played around the world, that still today is responsible for art, literature and music that delights the entire world. "We are very proud of everything we do as a small island - a small island that has the sixth-largest economy, the fourth best-funded military, some of the most effective diplomats, the proudest history, one of the best records for art and literature and contribution to philosophy and world civilisation." He added: "For the people who live in Northern Ireland, I should say we are not just an island we are a collection of islands. I don't want anyone in Shetland or Orkney to feel left out by this." Summit host Putin has rallied opposition from a number of countries at the summit to Barack Obama's proposals for punitive action against Assad, with only France suggesting it will join in any military strikes. Cameron confirmed that deep divisions over Syria were voiced at last night's four-hour official dinner and said that - despite evidence of nerve gas sarin found by US and UK scientists - Putin is still far from accepting the regime's responsibility for the August 21 attack which killed hundreds of civilians in a Damascus suburb. "This G20 was never going to reach conclusions on Syria," said the Prime Minister. "The divisions are too great. "The Russian position that, as Putin has said, if it is proved it is Assad he will take a different view but he is fairly clear that it is the opposition, is miles away from what I think the truth is and miles away from what lots of us believe." Following a 35-minute face-to-face meeting with Putin in the early hours of today, Mr Cameron said: "He says to me that he would like to see further evidence of regime culpability and we will go on providing evidence of regime culpability, as will the Americans and others, but I think it will take a lot to change his mind." The premiers of Turkey, Canada, Germany and Italy all joined Mr Obama and Mr Cameron in making the case at last night's dinner for a robust international response to Assad's alleged breach of treaties banning the use of chemical weapons. But it is understood that Putin's argument that any action must be approved by the UN Security Council was backed by several countries, including China. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/09/06/cameron-putin-syria_n_3878460.html?utm_hp_ref=uk-politics&ir=UK+Politics Back to top
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Pope rings pregnant woman to tell her he will baptise her child after she wrote to him saying the father wanted her to have an abortion Anna Romano was on holiday when her mobile rang with an unknown Rome number She was stunned to hear Pope Francis on the other end reassuring her Anna wrote to the Pope about her worries about having a baby with a man who was already married and tried to convince her to have an abortion New Pope has also telephoned an Italian student and a man whose brother was killed and shows a more personable side to the Catholic leader By NICK PISA PUBLISHED: 08:47 GMT, 6 September 2013 | UPDATED: 09:05 GMT, 6 September 2013 0 View comments Stunned: Shop worker Anna Romano, 35, was shocked to answer her mobile and hear Pope Francis on the end of the line. He reassured her about her decision to keep her unborn child Pope Francis has said he will baptise the unborn child of a woman who refused to have an abortion, after he telephoned her when she sent him an emotional letter. The call was the latest in a string of 'one to ones' Pope Francis has had with general members of the public and once again underlined his attempts at being a more human and in-touch pontiff after the 'stuffy' years of his predecessor Benedict XVI. Shop worker Anna Romano, 35, was on holiday when her mobile telephone started to ring with a mystery number on the screen and she was stunned to find herself speaking to the Argentinian pope, who was elected in March this year. Anna, from Arezzo near Florence, central Italy, had written to Francis earlier this summer to describe her turmoil at having discovered she was pregnant by a man, who unknown to her. was already married with a child and who demanded she terminate the pregnancy. In her letter, she wrote she described to the Pope her dilemma and said to him: 'I have never been lucky with men, I married when I was young and then things didn't work out and I got divorced. I then had a few brief relationships until I met a man who I thought was the man of my dreams. 'In June I discovered I was pregnant through him and when I told him instead of being happy he told me he was already married, already had a child and to have an abortion. 'I told him that I would not have an abortion and told him to get out of my life.' Anna added how she was 'in a desperate and anguished state' and that she was writing to Pope Francis because she had 'no-one else to turn to, after being left humiliated and betrayed'. Speaking from her home she added: 'I addressed the letter simply to Pope Francis, the Vatican and put it in the post. I didn't even send it recorded delivery. I didn't really expect to get a reply but then out of the blue when I was on holiday I had a phone call from him. 'The number was from Rome, with a 06 dial code, and as soon as he started speaking I recognised the voice as his. I was just so surprised that he had telephoned me. He said that he had read my letter and he wanted to speak to me personally about it and reassure me that someone was worried about me. We were only on the phone for a few minutes but my heart was filled with joy, as we spoke I was rubbing my tummy at the same time. 'Hello. It's the Pope here': Pope Francis spoke with Ms Romano for a few minutes, and she said her 'heart was filled with joy' 'I had only seen the Pope once before, from St Peter's Square when I lived in Rome, I would never have imagined that the Pope would pick up a telephone and call me and speak to me as if I was a dear friend. He reassured me and said a child was a gift from God, a sign of Divine Providence and that I would never be left alone. He said that as Christians we should never be afraid.' 'He told me I had been very brave and strong for my unborn child. I told him that I wanted to baptise the baby when it was born but I was afraid as I was divorced and a single mother but he said he would be my spiritual father and he would baptise my baby. 'I'm not sure if he will, I feel as if I am dreaming but if he did baptise my baby it would be something else, that telephone call has changed my life. 'I hope my letter will be an example for other women who feel they may be distant from the Church simply because they have chosen the wrong man, they are divorced or they are with men who are not worthy of being fathers. I don't know the sex of the baby but if the Pope does baptise it and it's a boy I have no doubt of his name - Francis.' The phone call was the latest in a string that Pope Francis has made since he was elected and underlines his hands on, man of the people style which has also recently included him posing for a 'selfie' photograph with a group of tourists inside St Peter's Basilica. He usually makes his calls from a landline in his office and simply says 'Hello. It's the Pope,' to the amazement of recipients who have included an Italian student last month, as well as a man whose brother was killed, his local newsagent back home in Buenos Aries to cancel his newspapers and a shoemaker to tell him not to bother making the traditional and expensive bright red papal loafer shoes. A Vatican spokesman said: 'I know nothing of this telephone call but then again we knew nothing of the others. The Pope doesn't tell us when he makes these calls - he just does them and then we find out about them later.' 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Pope Francis 'Phones Gay Catholic To Reassure Him About Sexuality' The Huffington Post UK | By Charlotte Meredith Posted: 06/09/2013 11:02 BST | Updated: 06/09/2013 11:13 BST Pope Francis has reportedly called a young gay Catholic man in France to reassure him about his sexuality. Christophe Trutino had written to the Pope to emotionally explain his inner turmoil in reconciling his sexuality with his faith, explaining how he was terrified he was going to hell for being gay, local media reported. The 25-year-old sales assistant from Toulouse said that due to the ongoing row over France’s battle over same-sex marriage, he was struggling to stay a believer in the Catholic faith. The Pope is said to have called the man to reassure him about his sexuality Trutino said he was left stunned when he then received a phone call from the head of the Catholic Church himself. “Your homosexuality. It doesn't matter”, the Pope reportedly told him, according to the local newspaper La Dépêche du Midi. "It was he who started the conversation," Trutino said, according to a translation on The Local. "He said 'Christopher? It's Pope Francis'. I was unsettled, of course. I asked, " Really? " He replied : "Yes." “I received the letter that you sent me. You need to remain courageous and continue to believe and pray and stay good,” the Pope told him during the nine-minute conversation in Spanish. “Your homosexuality. It doesn’t matter. One way or another , we are all children of God. This is why we must continue to be good," the Pope told him. There has been a rise in French homophobia following a spike in anti-gay marriage protestors. Trutino said the phone call ended with the Pope asking him to pray for him and that he would do the same in return. “When I hung up the phone, I was completely filled with emotion," he told local paper Midi Libre. "I was shaking. At the same time, the conversation was very relaxed. It was like a call from a friend, nice, very human.” The Vatican has not confirmed yet whether the phone call took place. While Francis' predecessor Benedict XVI was an extreme opponent of gay rights – once describing homosexuality as a "defection of human nature" – the most recent Pope has expressed his tolerance towards homosexuality. During his recent visit to Brazil he said: "If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge?" http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/09/06/pope-francis-supports-french-gay-man_n_3878617.html?utm_hp_ref=uk&ir=UK
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What a legend of a pope. So impressed already.
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thupercoach wrote:What a legend of a pope. So impressed already. Yeah, a real breathe of fresh air, way to lead by example.
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Australia's Rejection Of Kevin Rudd May Foretell Political Change In The U.S. With the victory of the Tony Abbott led conservatives in Australia, we can see that the Anglosphere is now post progressive. The English speaking nations of the world: England, New Zealand, Canada and now Australia are governed by conservatives. America stands apart from them as the sole remaining major leftist-governed power in the Anglo world. If you’d like to throw India into the mix too, you find Manmohan Singh, who is pushing to deregulate foreign investment markets and has just appointed a monetary hawk, Raghuram Rajan, as the new head of the Reserve Bank of India . Canada entirely skipped the recent wave of progressivism which swept the Anglosphere, and under PM Stephen Harper has surpassed the United States in economic freedom. Our northern neighbor is now listed by both the Heritage Foundation’s Index of Economic Freedom and the Fraser Institute’s Economic Freedom of the World as the most economically free nation in North America. Harper has been particularly diligent in cutting corporate taxes while the U.S. now has the highest corporate tax rates in the developed world. England rejected the hard-core labourite policies of Gordon Brown, putting the Tory David Cameron in power. New Zealand has a center right government in power as well. The English speaking peoples (to borrow Winston’s Churchill’s evocative phrase) tend to move in a sort of partial political sync with one another. Thatcher paved the way for Reagan, preceding him, anticipating him and inspiring him. Then we see the near simultaneous rise of Blair and Clinton, then the later hawkish Blair corresponds with Bush. Brown and Obama moved both their countries hard left in step with one another. And as of last year, England moved right under Cameron. In Australia, John Howard allied with and paralleled with his friend Bush, Russ/Gilliard tracked with Obama. And in what could herald yet another political shift, this time back to the right, Australia just handed a decisive victory to the Liberal National Party (the Australian conservative party), and a decisive defeat to the incumbent Labour Party under Kevin Rudd. Why? We shouldn’t over-emphasize the ideological side of this election. The incumbent party was deeply divided over a personality contest between Julia Gillard, and Rudd. Gillard was a member of Rudd’s cabinet who ousted him in a coup. Rudd then staged a counter-coup in which he came back and ousted her. On the other hand, the counter-coup helped Labor’s prospects given that Gillard had become deeply unpopular, and perceived as overly ambitious and disloyal to the likable Rudd. They party was perceived as chaotic and incompetent. But it wasn’t all personalities, the philosophical differences were sharp. Green policies were front and center. Tax policy was important too: Abbott promised to cut business taxes. Monetary policy: Abbott argued against debasement of the Australian dollar in order to promote growth, and against competitive devaluation in foreign exchange markets. Social policy: Abbott, a practicing Roman Catholic (and former seminarian), opposed calls for same sex marriage, while Rudd argued for it, with awkward attempts to link the Bible’s opposition to homosexuality with its alleged support for slavery. In short, their issues and our issues are quite similar and Australia may well be a portent of political change in the U.S. If not, as the U.S. lags the rest of the English speaking world in freedom, it will gradually lag the rest of that world in wealth and power. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jerrybowyer/2013/09/07/australias-rejection-of-kevin-rudd-may-foretell-political-change-in-the-u-s/?
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There is nothing "progressive" about the Left, just ideologically driven class dividing politics of envy.
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thupercoach wrote:What a legend of a pope. So impressed already. Yeah, quietly 'retiring' that envoy accused of impropriety was a really impressive move.
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Obama has officially backed away from a military strike on Syria. Probably a wise idea as it'd draw the region into a much bigger conflict, and potentially be the trigger for a world war. The West have no moved into attempting to persuade the Syrian government to hand over/destroy the rest of their chemical weapon stockpile. Ain't going to happen. :lol:
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Joffa wrote:Australia's Rejection Of Kevin Rudd May Foretell Political Change In The U.S. With the victory of the Tony Abbott led conservatives in Australia, we can see that the Anglosphere is now post progressive. The English speaking nations of the world: England, New Zealand, Canada and now Australia are governed by conservatives. America stands apart from them as the sole remaining major leftist-governed power in the Anglo world. If you’d like to throw India into the mix too, you find Manmohan Singh, who is pushing to deregulate foreign investment markets and has just appointed a monetary hawk, Raghuram Rajan, as the new head of the Reserve Bank of India . Canada entirely skipped the recent wave of progressivism which swept the Anglosphere, and under PM Stephen Harper has surpassed the United States in economic freedom. Our northern neighbor is now listed by both the Heritage Foundation’s Index of Economic Freedom and the Fraser Institute’s Economic Freedom of the World as the most economically free nation in North America. Harper has been particularly diligent in cutting corporate taxes while the U.S. now has the highest corporate tax rates in the developed world. England rejected the hard-core labourite policies of Gordon Brown, putting the Tory David Cameron in power. New Zealand has a center right government in power as well. The English speaking peoples (to borrow Winston’s Churchill’s evocative phrase) tend to move in a sort of partial political sync with one another. Thatcher paved the way for Reagan, preceding him, anticipating him and inspiring him. Then we see the near simultaneous rise of Blair and Clinton, then the later hawkish Blair corresponds with Bush. Brown and Obama moved both their countries hard left in step with one another. And as of last year, England moved right under Cameron. In Australia, John Howard allied with and paralleled with his friend Bush, Russ/Gilliard tracked with Obama. And in what could herald yet another political shift, this time back to the right, Australia just handed a decisive victory to the Liberal National Party (the Australian conservative party), and a decisive defeat to the incumbent Labour Party under Kevin Rudd. Why? We shouldn’t over-emphasize the ideological side of this election. The incumbent party was deeply divided over a personality contest between Julia Gillard, and Rudd. Gillard was a member of Rudd’s cabinet who ousted him in a coup. Rudd then staged a counter-coup in which he came back and ousted her. On the other hand, the counter-coup helped Labor’s prospects given that Gillard had become deeply unpopular, and perceived as overly ambitious and disloyal to the likable Rudd. They party was perceived as chaotic and incompetent. But it wasn’t all personalities, the philosophical differences were sharp. Green policies were front and center. Tax policy was important too: Abbott promised to cut business taxes. Monetary policy: Abbott argued against debasement of the Australian dollar in order to promote growth, and against competitive devaluation in foreign exchange markets. Social policy: Abbott, a practicing Roman Catholic (and former seminarian), opposed calls for same sex marriage, while Rudd argued for it, with awkward attempts to link the Bible’s opposition to homosexuality with its alleged support for slavery. In short, their issues and our issues are quite similar and Australia may well be a portent of political change in the U.S. If not, as the U.S. lags the rest of the English speaking world in freedom, it will gradually lag the rest of that world in wealth and power. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jerrybowyer/2013/09/07/australias-rejection-of-kevin-rudd-may-foretell-political-change-in-the-u-s/? Nothing "progressive" about the Left. Foisting class warfare on the population takes us back 50 years at least.
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thupercoach wrote:Nothing "progressive" about the Left. Foisting class warfare on the population takes us back 50 years at least. Yup. Because political figureheads from the right have never, ever EVER done anything like that. *cough* Thatcher *cough*
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100 out of 603 ex-Gitmo inmates confirmed as going back to terrorism upon release 603 terrorists have been released from Guantanamo Bay prison in Cuba 100 are confirmed (and another 74 suspected) to have returned to terrorism The U.S. military facility has recently been condemned for its controversial force-feeding processes By SOPHIE JANE EVANS PUBLISHED: 08:49 GMT, 11 September 2013 | UPDATED: 09:01 GMT, 11 September 2013 A shocking one in six inmates released from Guantanamo Bay prison have returned to terrorism, according to a U.S. intelligence report made public last week. Of the 603 prisoners set free from the military facility, 100 are confirmed to have rejoined jihad against the West. These include 17 ex-detainees that are dead, 27 that are in custody and 56 that are still free. A further 74 former inmates at the notorious prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, are suspected of returning to terrorism, including two that are dead, 25 that are in custody and 47 that are free. Alarmingly, three of the ex-Gitmo inmates confirmed as re-engaging in terrorism, and two suspected of terrorist activity, were released into the community in the past eight months, according to the report by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI). Thomas Joscelyn, a terrorism analyst with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, told Fox News that releasing prisoners from the detention facility increases the danger they will return to jihad. 'Once a detainee is transferred from Guantanamo to his home country, or a third country, there is no guarantee that appropriate security measures will be put in place,' he said. 'Thus, even detainees who are known to be very dangerous have rejoined the fight after leaving Guantanamo.' Detainees: There are currently 164 inmates held at the notorious prison. Of the 603 prisoners released from the military facility, 100 are confirmed (and another 74 suspected) to have returned to terrorism The ODNI report, which is released every six months, also warned against the unconditional release of Guantanamo inmates, stating there was a risk they would 'reengage in terrorist or insurgent activities'. It additionally highlighted the dangers posed by transferring ex-prisoners to countries with ongoing conflicts and active terrorist recruitment. In May, President Obama announced he was lifting a ban on the transfer of Guantanamo prisoners to Yemen, where the al Qaeda affiliate is seen as a major threat. He also pledged to renewed push to close the detention facility, which has recently provoked controversy over its restraint chair, operating theatre and force-feeding processes. Restraint chair: The detention facility has recently provoked controversy over its restraint chair, operating theatre and force-feeding processes Force-fed: During hunger strikes, inmates are strapped to a chair and kept alive with a liquid nutrient mix fed through a nasal tub - a process known as 'enteral feeding' Feeding tube: The controversial procedure has been described by medical experts as unethical and dangerous There are currently 164 inmates held at the prison, which costs the U.S. Defense Department around $150million a year to run. During a recent hunger strike, more than 100 inmates were strapped to a chair and kept alive with a liquid nutrient mix fed through a nasal tub - a process known as 'enteral feeding'. Under the procedure, described by medical experts as unethical and dangerous, a prisoner who refuses nine successive meals or whose body weight drops significantly is offered a twice-daily can of a nutritional supplement, Ensure. If he refuses, guards shackle him into the chair by his arms, head and feet, and a nurse inserts the tube up his nose, down the back of his throat and into his stomach. Last month, William Lietzau, the Pentagon official in charge of Guantanamo Bay, admitted that, in hindsight, he believed the notorious detention camp should never have been built. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2417226/Guantanamo-Bay-One-ex-Gitmo-inmates-return-terrorism.html
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Hope the lefties are sleeping well at night.
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thupercoach wrote:Hope the lefties are sleeping well at night. That still leaves 503 falsely imprisoned people champ. Edited by afromanGT: 12/9/2013 07:43:29 AM
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afromanGT wrote:thupercoach wrote:Hope the lefties are sleeping well at night. That still leaves 503 falsely imprisoned people champ. Edited by afromanGT: 12/9/2013 07:43:29 AM Or 500 people who have not yet returned to their former terrorist lives and three falsely accused ones. Plus the 100 actively involved in terrorism already. Turbo. Edited by thupercoach: 12/9/2013 08:51:54 AM
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Well...you might have a point, if there was any actual evidence to support their imprisonment. But there isn't. So you don't.
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Quote:A Plea for Caution From Russia What Putin Has to Say to Americans About SyriaBy VLADIMIR V. PUTIN Published: September 11, 2013MOSCOW — RECENT events surrounding Syria have prompted me to speak directly to the American people and their political leaders. It is important to do so at a time of insufficient communication between our societies. Relations between us have passed through different stages. We stood against each other during the cold war. But we were also allies once, and defeated the Nazis together. The universal international organization — the United Nations — was then established to prevent such devastation from ever happening again. The United Nations’ founders understood that decisions affecting war and peace should happen only by consensus, and with America’s consent the veto by Security Council permanent members was enshrined in the United Nations Charter. The profound wisdom of this has underpinned the stability of international relations for decades. No one wants the United Nations to suffer the fate of the League of Nations, which collapsed because it lacked real leverage. This is possible if influential countries bypass the United Nations and take military action without Security Council authorization. The potential strike by the United States against Syria, despite strong opposition from many countries and major political and religious leaders, including the pope, will result in more innocent victims and escalation, potentially spreading the conflict far beyond Syria’s borders. A strike would increase violence and unleash a new wave of terrorism. It could undermine multilateral efforts to resolve the Iranian nuclear problem and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and further destabilize the Middle East and North Africa. It could throw the entire system of international law and order out of balance. Syria is not witnessing a battle for democracy, but an armed conflict between government and opposition in a multireligious country. There are few champions of democracy in Syria. But there are more than enough Qaeda fighters and extremists of all stripes battling the government. The United States State Department has designated Al Nusra Front and the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, fighting with the opposition, as terrorist organizations. This internal conflict, fueled by foreign weapons supplied to the opposition, is one of the bloodiest in the world. Mercenaries from Arab countries fighting there, and hundreds of militants from Western countries and even Russia, are an issue of our deep concern. Might they not return to our countries with experience acquired in Syria? After all, after fighting in Libya, extremists moved on to Mali. This threatens us all. From the outset, Russia has advocated peaceful dialogue enabling Syrians to develop a compromise plan for their own future. We are not protecting the Syrian government, but international law. We need to use the United Nations Security Council and believe that preserving law and order in today’s complex and turbulent world is one of the few ways to keep international relations from sliding into chaos. The law is still the law, and we must follow it whether we like it or not. Under current international law, force is permitted only in self-defense or by the decision of the Security Council. Anything else is unacceptable under the United Nations Charter and would constitute an act of aggression. No one doubts that poison gas was used in Syria. But there is every reason to believe it was used not by the Syrian Army, but by opposition forces, to provoke intervention by their powerful foreign patrons, who would be siding with the fundamentalists. Reports that militants are preparing another attack — this time against Israel — cannot be ignored. It is alarming that military intervention in internal conflicts in foreign countries has become commonplace for the United States. Is it in America’s long-term interest? I doubt it. Millions around the world increasingly see America not as a model of democracy but as relying solely on brute force, cobbling coalitions together under the slogan “you’re either with us or against us.” But force has proved ineffective and pointless. Afghanistan is reeling, and no one can say what will happen after international forces withdraw. Libya is divided into tribes and clans. In Iraq the civil war continues, with dozens killed each day. In the United States, many draw an analogy between Iraq and Syria, and ask why their government would want to repeat recent mistakes. No matter how targeted the strikes or how sophisticated the weapons, civilian casualties are inevitable, including the elderly and children, whom the strikes are meant to protect. The world reacts by asking: if you cannot count on international law, then you must find other ways to ensure your security. Thus a growing number of countries seek to acquire weapons of mass destruction. This is logical: if you have the bomb, no one will touch you. We are left with talk of the need to strengthen nonproliferation, when in reality this is being eroded. We must stop using the language of force and return to the path of civilized diplomatic and political settlement. A new opportunity to avoid military action has emerged in the past few days. The United States, Russia and all members of the international community must take advantage of the Syrian government’s willingness to place its chemical arsenal under international control for subsequent destruction. Judging by the statements of President Obama, the United States sees this as an alternative to military action. I welcome the president’s interest in continuing the dialogue with Russia on Syria. We must work together to keep this hope alive, as we agreed to at the Group of 8 meeting in Lough Erne in Northern Ireland in June, and steer the discussion back toward negotiations. If we can avoid force against Syria, this will improve the atmosphere in international affairs and strengthen mutual trust. It will be our shared success and open the door to cooperation on other critical issues. My working and personal relationship with President Obama is marked by growing trust. I appreciate this. I carefully studied his address to the nation on Tuesday. And I would rather disagree with a case he made on American exceptionalism, stating that the United States’ policy is “what makes America different. It’s what makes us exceptional.” It is extremely dangerous to encourage people to see themselves as exceptional, whatever the motivation. There are big countries and small countries, rich and poor, those with long democratic traditions and those still finding their way to democracy. Their policies differ, too. We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal. Vladimir V. Putin is the president of Russia. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/putin-plea-for-caution-from-russia-on-syria.html?hp&_r=1&
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Many valid points made. I'd hate to see another war.
I just don't trust his motivations. Russia's interests in Syria are massive and entrenched.
In many respects it's the act of a desperate man.
And in the other corner is an idiot with his finger on the button backing the Islamist rebels.
Great.
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