Hmmm let me see. On the one hand I can take the word of Afro and the bunch of physicists that calculated the probable location of the plane, had it peer reviewed, checked with Boeing on their assumptions and published their best estimate or I can believe an internet troll.

It's a conundrum.

You've learnt some big words this week RC.

In the case of the plane you're trying to determine horizontal displacement based on a [size=7]vertical known[/size]. So in this case, the Satellite is A and Ping 1 is B and Ping 2 is C.

By comparing this data to known flight paths they can then calculate approximate position based on subsequent variances.

Edited by afromanGT: 28/3/2014 11:18:58 AM

simple question, what was the altitude of the plane throughout its journey?

still waiting for that answer

Low enough to avoid civilian aviation radar. So below 5,000 feet (less than a mile). Which is almost certainly going to be negligible in calculations when inmersat satellites orbit earth at an altitude of 22,000 miles.

Yes, how dare I do something like go to the bathroom or make myself lunch instead of catering to your every idiot question on here.

ok, so we've established you dont know the altitude but can guess its less than 5000 feet because it avoided radar, so a margin of error of a few thousand feet. so after telling me the altitude was known, now you're telling me its a guess

now since the plane's location are the "mobile phone towers" as you put it, then you should know its planned route

please tell me, how do you know its planned route when it was scheduled to fly to Beijing and ended up in the Southern Hemisphere?

It's. Fucking. Basic. Trigonometry.

I explained to you how they worked it out in great detail. Yet for some reason I'm the idiot because I understand and you don't.

I even tried to use a metaphor, but even that you couldn't comprehend because you're a spastic fucking moron.

The point is if you have a fixed location - POINT A - then you can calculate the location of POINT B AND POINT C by using the doppler effect to determine direct distance from POINT A and then with the help of some basic fucking trigonometry you can determine the horizontal displacement from POINT A. [size=7]Then comparing it to the known flight paths of other airline flights in the area (flying into Broome and Perth)[/size] you can calculate the approximate location of the plane, which they did to within 100 miles.

It could not possibly be more simple. My 14 year old god daughter can understand this. If you can't understand this then you shouldn't be on the internet.

Edited by afromanGT: 28/3/2014 12:37:48 PM

you keep referring to these "known flight paths" like they have any relevance to a rogue plane

its all guesstimation at best when 2 of your 3 data points are unknown

Vid gets released of talks about Turkey doing a false flag attack to protect an Ottoman tomb against ISIL, next minute Erdogan bans Youtube.

Because once they know the approximate distance of the rogue plane from the satellite they can compare it to the distance from the satellite of planes who are where they should have been in order to help calculate the plane's positioning.

No, it's not. Just because you don't understand doesn't mean people are guessing. #-o #-o #-o

Still waiting on that apology for the accusation of plagiarism. You can't even admit you were wrong one time. What a fucking wanker.

Still waiting on that apology.

Ricecrackers: the forum poster who doesn't understand but knows better than the experts, and then accuses you of plagiarism and can't admit he was wrong.

the only things you're expert in is lying and spinning bullshit

Yes, because I understand what the doppler effect is and how it works, and how it applies to this scenario therefore I must be a liar.

28 March 2014 Last updated at 05:31

[size=8]Flight MH370: Search shifted after 'credible lead'[/size]

Royal Australian Air Force AP-3C Orion aircraft during a search operation. March 2014
The new area is closer to Western Australia and should allow for longer search periods

The search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 [size=7]has moved to a new part of the Indian Ocean due to a "credible lead"[/size], Australia says.

[size=7]The Australian Maritime Safety Authority (Amsa) said the search would now focus on an area 1,100km north-east of the previous zone.[/size]

The move was based on more analysis of radar data that showed the plane was going faster, thus using more fuel.

The Beijing-bound airliner disappeared on 8 March with 239 people on board.

Malaysian officials have concluded that, based on satellite data, it flew into the sea somewhere in the southern Indian Ocean. So far no trace of it has been found.

[size=7]Search efforts had until Friday morning focused on an area some 2,500km (1,550 miles) to the south-west of the Australian city of Perth.[/size]

But John Young, general manager of Amsa's emergency response division, said that teams had "moved on" from that area based on the new information.

more analysis of radar data that showed the plane was going faster, thus using more fuel.

Wow, look, it's science at work.

Such an idiot it's hard to know where to start.

They used the analysis to find the general area. More evidence has come in which allows then to refine the hypothesis.

There's nothing to see here. Jog on.

So you conveniently ignore the bit where they're still using the same information.

But you mean to suggest that the information that they used to calculate the baring of the aircraft which they're still using to search is wrong because a different calculated velocity means they ran out of fuel sooner than anticipated?

And I'm the 'moron'.

turns out it was as its in a completely different location

I might suck at Geography. But since when is 'The Southern Indian Ocean' considered a "completely different location" to the previous search area of 'The Southern Indian Ocean'?

you told me the plane flew under the radar, however radar data was used in the latest analysis
are you going to lie again about making that claim? :^o

The new information is based on continuing analysis of radar data between the South China Sea and the Strait of Malacca before radar contact was lost.

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"Sorry afro, I was wrong to call you names again"

Edited by afromanGT: 28/3/2014 05:16:02 PM

are you going to admit the debris spotted on the satellite in a completely different location was not the plane?

YES or NO answer