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ricecrackers wrote:what ever you say i am is what you are. afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:I know you are you said you are so what am I? I didn't really 'crate' anything.
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doppler effect, peer review, LOL Quote:[size=7]MH370 search: Captain Mark Matthews' paints pessimistic assessment of black box search[/size] Date March 30, 2014 - 7:59PM 454 reading nowRead later Tom Allard The Navy vessel Ocean Shield is heading to the Indian Ocean with specialised sonar equipment including a pinger locator, to begin searching for the black box of the downed Malaysia Airlines plane. [size=7]Finding the black box flight recorder of the missing Malaysia Airlines passenger jet is simply ''untenable'' as things stand at the moment, the US Navy officer who will lead the search has conceded. [/size] The deeply pessimistic assessment from Captain Mark Matthews came as the Royal Australian Navy vessel Ocean Shield was being loaded with a ''pinger'' locator and an underwater drone critical to recovering the black box . However, ADV Ocean Shield will not arrive in the 319,000 square kilometre search area for three to four days, while the beacon on the black box could have only four days of battery power left. Australian defence vessel Ocean Shield. Loaded with a ''pinger'' locator and an underwater drone: Australian defence vessel Ocean Shield. Photo: Amanda Hoh ''It all depends on how effective we are at reducing the search area,'' said Captain Matthews, a search-and-recovery expert who was involved in the two-year search to find the black box of Air France flight 447, which crashed in the Atlantic Ocean. [size=7]''Right now, the search area is basically the size of the Indian Ocean, which is an untenable amount of time to search.''[/size] The black box - with its cockpit and flight data recorders - is the key to understanding why flight MH370 disappeared more than three weeks ago. - Search mission: US Navy Captain Mark Matthews with an acoustic "pinger", to be used in the hunt for flight MH370's black box. Photo: Getty Images Highlighting the enormity of the task, Captain Matthews revealed that the ''towed pinger locator'' can detect emissions from the black box only if it is within about 1.6 kilometres of its beacon. And it must be towed at a snail-like 5km/h to be effective. Captain Matthews said the black box's beacon could operate for a maximum of 45 days. Further complicating matters is that even if debris of the plane is found, crew on Ocean Shield will then have to wait for oceanographers to complete the complex job of estimating where the plane actually crashed before the pinger locator can be usefully deployed. Its point of impact will be hundreds of kilometres from where any debris floating on the surface of the Indian Ocean is found. Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 vanished 23 days ago, veering dramatically off its course to Beijing after its communications system was disabled. Eight ships and 10 aircraft were again hunting for remnants of the aircraft on Sunday, although one of the Malaysian Air Force C-130s was unable to depart due to technical problems. A Malaysian frigate will join the search on Monday as part of the expanding international effort, which includes five Chinese vessels, one of which is understood also to have a black box locator on board. While many objects have been picked up by the vessels in the past two days, none of them have been identified as part of MH370. Chief of Navy Ray Griggs said the new search area was located in a ''more conventional shipping lane'', meaning there would be more flotsam than further south. Meanwhile, former chief of defence force Air Chief Marshal Angus Houston has been appointed by Prime Minister Tony Abbott as the overall leader of the rescue and investigation effort. Vice Admiral Griggs said that Air Chief Marshal Houston ''will deal with high-level international co-ordination'', while Commodore Peter Leavy will command the multinational search-and-recovery operation. Air Chief Marshal Houston's role is understood to be primarily related to a push by a number of nations for Australia to be the base of the air crash investigation, as revealed by Fairfax Media on Saturday. While Malaysia will formally still lead the investigation as required by international convention, the analysis of wreckage and the black box would take place in Australia. The Malaysian government has yet to comment on the proposal. However, government and aviation officials in Kuala Lumpur agree the nation did not have the capacity to deal with an investigation of this magnitude. ''Really, we are out of our depth,'' said a senior Malaysian police officer involved in the investigation. Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/mh370-search-captain-mark-matthews-paints-pessimistic-assessment-of-black-box-search-20140330-35rrs.html#ixzz2xRuj8Mb2
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You don't understand the issue here at all, do you? Even if they find the plane they've got water literally thousands of meters deep in which they need to find two things the size of half of your computer, which without the beacons having power is going to be an incredibly difficult task.
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http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/phillipwood.htmlBLOCKBUSTER: THIS IS ACCURATE AND NOW 100 PERCENT CONFIRMED: HIJACKED IBM ENGINEER PHILIP WOOD SUCCESSFULLY DIALED OUT OF DIEGO GARCIA PERMALINK UPDATE: If anything was used to re-tag this image, it would say so in the software tag of the image. Any time software modifies any aspect of the image, the last thing to touch the image gets put in the software tag. The Iphone's standard software is in the image tag and nothing else. That means this image has NOT been re-tagged and that is the FIRST THING I checked before posting this story. The story below is NOW CONFIRMED 100 PERCENT TRUE. The blindfold: Philip claimed to be blindfolded when he sent the message. When the American military blindfolds someone, it is accomplished by putting a bag over the head that is locked so you can't get it off. This left the engineers hands free. This would have made it possible for him to pull his Iphone 5 (a fact confirmed by the Exif data) out of his butt as stated, and use the voice command ability of the Iphone to just talk to it to log in and post the message. This explains why he sent a black photo, he could not see what he was sending, he just knew he snapped a photo and sent whatever got taken. The coordinates:When the coordinates are added to the fact that the photo's exif data does not match the Google coordinates or any other coordinates for Diego Garcia that are posted online, but is still within the boundaries of Diego Garcia, it proves that no one just pulled those coordinates off the web. It helps confirm that this was not just a hoax because the coordinates are exact to wherever on Diego Garcia the Iphone was when it took the photo. ORIGINAL POST FOLLOWS: IBM ENGINEER TAKEN FROM HIJACKED FLIGHT 370 GOT A SELFIE OUT TO THE INTERNET. This image, which appears black was posted as taken in a dark cell by IBM engineer Philip Wood. The picture is black because the cell was too dark, but a critical piece of information was embedded in the Exif data, the coordinates to Diego Garcia, where the picture was taken. And it's real, this is NOT a hoax. The coordinates in the picture indicate that the photo was taken within 3 miles of what Google officially gives for Diego Garcia. It is NOT EXACTLY what comes up on Google. It is off a couple miles, so NO ONE GOOGLED THIS, thus helping to confirm it's authenticity. I don't know how big the island is, but if it has a runway, that certainly fits. The picture posted with the following text: "I have been held hostage by unknown military personal after my flight was hijacked (blindfolded). I work for IBM and I have managed to hide my cellphone in my ass during the hijack. I have been separated from the rest of the passengers and I am in a cell. My name is Philip Wood. I think I have been drugged as well and cannot think clearly." ASTEROID IMPACT LEVEL UPDATE: SCAMMERS ARE SAYING THERE NEVER WAS A PHILIP WOOD WORKING FOR IBM. BUT HIS LINKDIN DESTROYS THAT LIE AND CONFIRMS THE STORY: UPDATE: If Philip Wood´s linkdin is not embedded below exactly as stated HERE IS THE LINK. Image Exif data: THE SMOKING GUN The Exif is intact. Exif data gets embedded in every image by every camera and includes the circumstances under which the photo was taken. It can be viewed by saving the image to your desktop, and then right clicking it and selecting image properties. Hit the details tab. You can see that the image was taken on March 18 with an Iphone 5, with the ISO at 3200 and a shutter of 1/15. The coordinates are included in the exif data because the Iphone knows where it is, and the coordinates are for Diego Garcia. THE FIRST TIME A BLANK PHOTO SAID IT ALL. Exif can't be rewritten with common software, it can only be added to in fields such as image credits with some advanced applications applications. It can be erased as well but NOT CHANGED. Photos with the exif intact will hold up in court. If the Exif is hacked and this is not real, the CIA or a really good hacker did this, which I doubt, I'd say it's probably real. Another smoking gun is that the voice recognition software put the word personal instead of personnel. This is completely consistent with a blind software assisted dial out. Surrounding this story is the fact that the man who managed to get this information to Farganne (forum member Glitch) was harassed and received many threatening voice mails over it, that is another piece of evidence pointing to this as being real. One thing is certain, once it's posted here on this site the genie is OUT OF THE BOTTLE. I cannot stress how important it is that the GPS coordinates in the photo do not perfectly match what Google says and are not posted anywhere on the web, because it proves that the source of those coordinates did not come from google or Wikipedia, they really did come from the imaging device and it HAD TO be at Diego Garcia when it took the photo. DEAR U.S. ARMED FORCES: THE GAME IS OVER. RETURN FLIGHT 370 TO MALAYSIA AIRLINES, RETURN THE PEOPLE TO THEIR FAMILIES, AND SEND PHILLIP WOOD HOME. You have been BUSTED!!! UPDATE: Some people are saying you could never get an Iphone up your butt. And that´s silly, to prove it just google Anal Fisting. I hate to reference something that dirty, but the Iphone wont´t fit myth is too prominent in the shill sector, and OBVIOUS B.S. SMOKING GUN PROOF that Malaysia Flight 370 was hijacked by the [youtube]watch?v=7kYeLmozTSs&hd=1[/youtube] http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/27834494/#q27834494 help Anonymous Wed Mar 19 2014 12:22:38 No.27834494 ViewReplyOriginalReport Quoted By: >>27834984 >>27835050 >>27835094 >>27835125 >>27835188 I have been held hostage by unknown military personal after my flight was hijacked (blindfolded). I work for IBM and I have managed to hide my cellphone in my ass during the hijack. I have been separated from the rest of the passengers and I am in a cell. My name is Philip Wood. I think I have been drugged as well and cannot think clearly. Israel Caught Housing 'Identical Twin of Flight 370' In Tel Aviv! [youtube]watch?v=UZhSmYAvugU&hd=1[/youtube] BUSTED! Israel Caught Housing Flight 370 'Twin' Airplane in Tel-Aviv! [youtube]watch?v=wWYANJzVJvY&hd=1[/youtube] Sealed! Malaysia Tells Flight 370 Family Members 'Evidence is Sealed and Cannot Be Made Public'! [youtube]watch?v=FdbmISGIVVo&hd=1[/youtube]
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Weren't there Aussies on board 370? -PB
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Footyroo wrote:http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/phillipwood.html BLOCKBUSTER: THIS IS ACCURATE AND NOW 100 PERCENT CONFIRMED: HIJACKED IBM ENGINEER PHILIP WOOD SUCCESSFULLY DIALED OUT OF DIEGO GARCIA PERMALINK UPDATE: If anything was used to re-tag this image, it would say so in the software tag of the image. Any time software modifies any aspect of the image, the last thing to touch the image gets put in the software tag. The Iphone's standard software is in the image tag and nothing else. That means this image has NOT been re-tagged and that is the FIRST THING I checked before posting this story. [size=9]The story below is NOW CONFIRMED 100 PERCENT TRUE.[/size] The blindfold: Philip claimed to be blindfolded when he sent the message. When the American military blindfolds someone, it is accomplished by putting a bag over the head that is locked so you can't get it off. This left the engineers hands free. This would have made it possible for him to pull his Iphone 5 (a fact confirmed by the Exif data) out of his butt as stated, and use the voice command ability of the Iphone to just talk to it to log in and post the message. This explains why he sent a black photo, he could not see what he was sending, he just knew he snapped a photo and sent whatever got taken. The coordinates:When the coordinates are added to the fact that the photo's exif data does not match the Google coordinates or any other coordinates for Diego Garcia that are posted online, but is still within the boundaries of Diego Garcia, it proves that no one just pulled those coordinates off the web. It helps confirm that this was not just a hoax because the coordinates are exact to wherever on Diego Garcia the Iphone was when it took the photo. ORIGINAL POST FOLLOWS: IBM ENGINEER TAKEN FROM HIJACKED FLIGHT 370 GOT A SELFIE OUT TO THE INTERNET. This image, which appears black was posted as taken in a dark cell by IBM engineer Philip Wood. The picture is black because the cell was too dark, but a critical piece of information was embedded in the Exif data, the coordinates to Diego Garcia, where the picture was taken. And it's real, this is NOT a hoax. The coordinates in the picture indicate that the photo was taken within 3 miles of what Google officially gives for Diego Garcia. It is NOT EXACTLY what comes up on Google. It is off a couple miles, so NO ONE GOOGLED THIS, thus helping to confirm it's authenticity. I don't know how big the island is, but if it has a runway, that certainly fits. The picture posted with the following text: "I have been held hostage by unknown military personal after my flight was hijacked (blindfolded). I work for IBM and I have managed to hide my cellphone in my ass during the hijack. I have been separated from the rest of the passengers and I am in a cell. My name is Philip Wood. I think I have been drugged as well and cannot think clearly." ASTEROID IMPACT LEVEL UPDATE: SCAMMERS ARE SAYING THERE NEVER WAS A PHILIP WOOD WORKING FOR IBM. BUT HIS LINKDIN DESTROYS THAT LIE AND CONFIRMS THE STORY: UPDATE: If Philip Wood´s linkdin is not embedded below exactly as stated HERE IS THE LINK. Image Exif data: THE SMOKING GUN The Exif is intact. Exif data gets embedded in every image by every camera and includes the circumstances under which the photo was taken. It can be viewed by saving the image to your desktop, and then right clicking it and selecting image properties. Hit the details tab. You can see that the image was taken on March 18 with an Iphone 5, with the ISO at 3200 and a shutter of 1/15. The coordinates are included in the exif data because the Iphone knows where it is, and the coordinates are for Diego Garcia. THE FIRST TIME A BLANK PHOTO SAID IT ALL. Exif can't be rewritten with common software, it can only be added to in fields such as image credits with some advanced applications applications. It can be erased as well but NOT CHANGED. Photos with the exif intact will hold up in court. If the Exif is hacked and this is not real, the CIA or a really good hacker did this, which I doubt, I'd say it's probably real. Another smoking gun is that the voice recognition software put the word personal instead of personnel. This is completely consistent with a blind software assisted dial out. Surrounding this story is the fact that the man who managed to get this information to Farganne (forum member Glitch) was harassed and received many threatening voice mails over it, that is another piece of evidence pointing to this as being real. One thing is certain, once it's posted here on this site the genie is OUT OF THE BOTTLE. I cannot stress how important it is that the GPS coordinates in the photo do not perfectly match what Google says and are not posted anywhere on the web, because it proves that the source of those coordinates did not come from google or Wikipedia, they really did come from the imaging device and it HAD TO be at Diego Garcia when it took the photo. DEAR U.S. ARMED FORCES: THE GAME IS OVER. RETURN FLIGHT 370 TO MALAYSIA AIRLINES, RETURN THE PEOPLE TO THEIR FAMILIES, AND SEND PHILLIP WOOD HOME. You have been BUSTED!!! UPDATE: Some people are saying you could never get an Iphone up your butt. And that´s silly, to prove it just google Anal Fisting. I hate to reference something that dirty, but the Iphone wont´t fit myth is too prominent in the shill sector, and OBVIOUS B.S. SMOKING GUN PROOF that Malaysia Flight 370 was hijacked by the [youtube]watch?v=7kYeLmozTSs&hd=1[/youtube] http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/27834494/#q27834494 help Anonymous Wed Mar 19 2014 12:22:38 No.27834494 ViewReplyOriginalReport Quoted By: >>27834984 >>27835050 >>27835094 >>27835125 >>27835188 I have been held hostage by unknown military personal after my flight was hijacked (blindfolded). I work for IBM and I have managed to hide my cellphone in my ass during the hijack. I have been separated from the rest of the passengers and I am in a cell. My name is Philip Wood. I think I have been drugged as well and cannot think clearly. Israel Caught Housing 'Identical Twin of Flight 370' In Tel Aviv! [youtube]watch?v=UZhSmYAvugU&hd=1[/youtube] BUSTED! Israel Caught Housing Flight 370 'Twin' Airplane in Tel-Aviv! [youtube]watch?v=wWYANJzVJvY&hd=1[/youtube] Sealed! Malaysia Tells Flight 370 Family Members 'Evidence is Sealed and Cannot Be Made Public'! [youtube]watch?v=FdbmISGIVVo&hd=1[/youtube] ah ha, sure thing :lol:
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What a load of shit :lol: :lol:
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"You are looking at an exact replica of Malaysian Airlines flight 370...except the serial number" :lo::lol::lol:
Malaysian Airlines have 14 777's in service :lol:
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Best Korea have had a Skirmish with Second Best Korea not too long ago. Best Korea shelled some water which landed over the sea border, so South Korea fired off a few howitzers just to remind the North that they won't take no shit. :lol: Quote:Seoul (AFP) - The two Koreas traded live artillery fire across their disputed maritime border Monday, forcing South Korean islanders to take shelter a day after the North drove up tensions by threatening a new nuclear test.
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N. Korea announces live-fire drill, driving up tensions AFP North Korea fires artillery close to South in drill Reuters Koreas trade fire; island residents in shelters Associated Press N. Korea test-fires missiles as Obama hosts summit AFP North Korea fires 2 missiles as its rivals meet Associated Press The exchange, triggered by a North Korean live-fire exercise that dropped shells into South Korean waters, was limited to untargeted shelling into the sea, military officials said.
Analysts said the incident, coming a day after Pyongyang threatened to conduct a "new form" of nuclear test, was largely a sign of the North's growing frustration with US resistance to resuming multi-party talks on its nuclear programme.
Pyongyang sees the negotiations as an opportunity to win material concessions and aid from the international community.
"I don't see that this ran any real risk of escalating into a serious clash," said Yang Moo-Jin, a professor at the University of North Korean Studies in Seoul.
"It's really North Korea showing it intends to keep the pressure on to resume a dialogue," Yang said.
View galleryMap showing the disputed maritime border between North … Map showing the disputed maritime border between North and South Korea, including areas where Pyongy … The South Korean stock market shrugged off the incident, with the main Kospi index closing up 0.23 percent at 1,985.61.
The North had ensured maximum publicity for its live-fire drill by taking the unusual step of notifying the South beforehand, and issuing a provocative no-sail, no-fly advisory.
The exercise began at 12:15pm (0315 GMT) and South Korea, which had threatened to respond if any shells crossed the border, retaliated shortly afterwards.
"Some of (North Korea's) shells landed south of the border during the drill. So our military fired back north of the border in line with ordinary protocol," the defence ministry said in a statement.
-- Islanders take to shelters --
View galleryHandout picture from Ongjin County officeshowing South … Handout picture from Ongjin County officeshowing South Korean students taking shelter at the South K … As a precaution, border island residents were evacuated to shelters, as South Korean fighter jets flew overhead.
One resident who refused to leave his home told AFP by phone that he had heard "dozens of artillery shells" being fired.
In November 2010, North Korea shelled Yeonpyeong island, killing four people and triggering concerns of a full-scale conflict.
Pyongyang has carried out a series of rocket and short-range missile launches in recent weeks, in a pointed protest at ongoing annual South Korea-US military exercises.
Monday's incident coincided with nearly 15,000 South Korean and US troops launching a massive, 12-day amphibious landing drill.
View galleryThe cross border firing came on the same day US Marines … The cross border firing came on the same day US Marines (pictured) took part in a joint landing oper … Last week, the North upped the ante by test-firing two mid-range ballistic missiles capable of striking Japan.
The UN Security Council condemned the launches, prompting the North to issue its threat of a "new" type of nuclear test -- a possible reference to testing a uranium-based device or a miniaturised warhead small enough to fit on a ballistic missile.
North Korea has conducted three nuclear tests, the most recent -- and most powerful -- in February last year.
Most experts believe it is still some way from mastering the technology required to build a miniaturised warhead -- a development that would be seen as a game-changer in assessing the North's nuclear arms capabilities.
-- 'Severe cost' for nuclear test --
South Korean Foreign Minister Yun Byung-Se warned Monday that the North would pay a "severe cost" if it went ahead with another test in defiance of existing UN sanctions.
The de-facto maritime boundary between the two Koreas -- the Northern Limit Line -- is not recognised by Pyongyang, which argues it was unilaterally drawn by US-led United Nations forces after the 1950-53 Korean War.
Both sides complain of frequent incursions by the other and these resulted in limited naval clashes in 1999, 2002 and 2009.
Last week, South Korea had seized a North Korean fishing boat that strayed over the boundary and held it at Baengnyeong island for several hours before allowing it to return.
In a despatch sent during Monday's exchange of fire and headlined "Let's beat all mad dogs in Baengnyeong island to death," the North's official KCNA news agency condemned the boat's seizure and vowed revenge.
"We need to destroy the enemy with multiple blows of fire and sink Baengnyeong island," it said.
North-South tensions have been rising for weeks, undermining hopes raised after the North in February hosted the first reunion for more than three years of families separated by the 1950-53 war.
As well as the annual South Korean-US military drills, the North has been angered by efforts to bring Pyongyang before the UN Security Council over a UN report detailing Pyongyang's record of systematic human rights abuse. http://news.yahoo.com/two-koreas-trade-fire-across-maritime-border-041638771.html
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Apparently if NK detonated a nuclear weapon in Central Park the fall out wouldn't make it to First Avenue. I don't know why they don't just challenge NK to do it so they can retaliate and get it over with.
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Citing 4chan (even worse - /pol/) threads as proof :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I read that thread myself, utter bullshit...
> In my panic, I put my phone in my ass
Yeah ok :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Iridium1010 wrote:[youtube]R4kd2pNvzMo[/youtube] Very interesting stuff. He at once attempts to delegitimise Israel by saying the Jews have no historical connection to Israel and the whole thing came about because of the Holocaust, and at the same time to say that he wants to make peace with Israel. He neglects the fact that some Jews lived there for centuries, and the Zionist movement of returning to Israel began in the late 1800s. Between the late 1800s and the 1920s more than half a million Jews made the choice to return. They were repeatedly massacred by the Arabs and mistreated by the British. He continues to promote the big lie that Israel illegitimately took the land of another nation and he is also attempting to paint the Assad regime as not having been aggressive towards Israel when in fact Syria was a terrorism-sponsoring state. And he wants Israel to give up the Golan Heights, the place from which the Syrians shelled Israel continuously from 1948 until 1967. The Golan provides a security buffer and gives Israel an important strategic security advantage. He also talks of Palestinian refugees but neglects to mention that the only Palestinian refugee camps are in Syria and Jordan, not in Israel. Israel isn't the one keeping them in refugee camps. That's the historical side of things. However, by Arab standards he is being quite progressive by actually recognising Israel's right to exist and by recognising that contrary to the propaganda, ALL Israel wants is peace and security and not to constantly have to be assuring its survival. That Israel is actually treating Syrians in Israeli hospitals while the Iraqis, Iranians and others are going in and destroying the place. He asks a valid question - "who is the true enemy of the Arab?" Looking at things from purely an Israeli perspective, Israel must engage with people like him and hope that one day Syria will be stable again, but this time without the enmity towards Israel. Right now the security advantage is in Israel's favour compared to the Syrians so any talk of giving the Golan to them is pointless. Besides which, they are not even a united country yet. If one day Syria is united and democratic, actively seeks peace with Israel, publics recognises its right to exist as a Jewish state and there is trade and cultural cooperation (wouldn't that be incredible?!) and Israel genuinely feels safe on that side of the border then they could seriously consider the Golan question. As things stand, the previous regime was actively anti-Israel while right now there is a civil war with massive human rights violations throughout Syria. There is no one to make peace with. So Israel must continue to treat the Syrian wounded because it's the right thing to do, and because it helps show the Arabs that Israel isn't actually their enemy. Maybe it'll sow the seeds for something in decades to come. Edited by thupercoach: 1/4/2014 09:21:11 AM
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so, have they found the plane yet?
i thought the doppler effect was going to locate it
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ricecrackers wrote:so, have they found the plane yet?
i thought the doppler effect was going to locate it Way to reiterate your lack of understanding of the topic matter.
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I see you're back for more punishment :^o
where's the other guy who kept banging on about peer reviews and the world's best physicists coming out with trigonometry minus 2 of the 3 variables? :lol:
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ricecrackers wrote:I see you're back for more punishment :^o
where's the other guy who kept banging on about peer reviews and the world's best physicists coming out with trigonometry minus 2 of the 3 variables? :lol: Been in the NT doing a site inspection but thanks for asking. (The trig bit wasn't me though. I think you're confused. Maybe more so than usual.) Edited by munrubenmuz: 2/4/2014 12:10:50 AM
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http://www.amazon.com/Science-Jewish-Bloodline-Texe-Marrs/dp/1930004818/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_topDNA Science and the Jewish Bloodline , Texe Marrs (Author) , ISBN-13: 978-1930004818 Who are the Jews? What is their ancestry? Are the Jews a homogenous race? Are Jews descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? Today, DNA science reveals that almost all the Jews in the world come from Khazaria. They are not of the blood lineage of Abraham and the prophets, but of King Bulan and the pagan peoples of the Caucasus. The ancestors of today's Jews are not Israelites but are Khazarians. Khazaria's people, in the 8th century, converted from paganism to Judaism. In the 10th century, these Khazarian "Jewish" converts emigrated to Eastern Europe, and especially Poland and Lithuania. In 1948, the Khazars, erroneously believing themselves to be "Jews," arrived in the territory of Palestine and set up the state of Israel. The people of Israel today are virtually all of Khazar (Turk/Mongol stock) extraction. The "Jews" have no genetic claims to the land of Israel and no family connection whatsoever to historical Israel. DNA science joins recent discoveries in history and archaeology to present the world with a correct and remarkable picture of the Jewish people. Now, everything changes!
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Footyroo wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Science-Jewish-Bloodline-Texe-Marrs/dp/1930004818/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
DNA Science and the Jewish Bloodline , Texe Marrs (Author) , ISBN-13: 978-1930004818
Who are the Jews? What is their ancestry? Are the Jews a homogenous race? Are Jews descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? Today, DNA science reveals that almost all the Jews in the world come from Khazaria. They are not of the blood lineage of Abraham and the prophets, but of King Bulan and the pagan peoples of the Caucasus. The ancestors of today's Jews are not Israelites but are Khazarians.
Khazaria's people, in the 8th century, converted from paganism to Judaism. In the 10th century, these Khazarian "Jewish" converts emigrated to Eastern Europe, and especially Poland and Lithuania. In 1948, the Khazars, erroneously believing themselves to be "Jews," arrived in the territory of Palestine and set up the state of Israel. The people of Israel today are virtually all of Khazar (Turk/Mongol stock) extraction.
The "Jews" have no genetic claims to the land of Israel and no family connection whatsoever to historical Israel. DNA science joins recent discoveries in history and archaeology to present the world with a correct and remarkable picture of the Jewish people. Now, everything changes! This has been disproved repeatedly.
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thupercoach wrote:Footyroo wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Science-Jewish-Bloodline-Texe-Marrs/dp/1930004818/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
DNA Science and the Jewish Bloodline , Texe Marrs (Author) , ISBN-13: 978-1930004818
Who are the Jews? What is their ancestry? Are the Jews a homogenous race? Are Jews descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? Today, DNA science reveals that almost all the Jews in the world come from Khazaria. They are not of the blood lineage of Abraham and the prophets, but of King Bulan and the pagan peoples of the Caucasus. The ancestors of today's Jews are not Israelites but are Khazarians.
Khazaria's people, in the 8th century, converted from paganism to Judaism. In the 10th century, these Khazarian "Jewish" converts emigrated to Eastern Europe, and especially Poland and Lithuania. In 1948, the Khazars, erroneously believing themselves to be "Jews," arrived in the territory of Palestine and set up the state of Israel. The people of Israel today are virtually all of Khazar (Turk/Mongol stock) extraction.
The "Jews" have no genetic claims to the land of Israel and no family connection whatsoever to historical Israel. DNA science joins recent discoveries in history and archaeology to present the world with a correct and remarkable picture of the Jewish people. Now, everything changes! This has been disproved repeatedly. Just out of curiosity are modern jews the descendants of those from thousands of years ago? What were the genes of the Arabs that lived there in the 40s?
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I though the Ashkenazi Jews were always a slightly different ethnicity to Arabs?
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Iridium1010 wrote:thupercoach wrote:Footyroo wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Science-Jewish-Bloodline-Texe-Marrs/dp/1930004818/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
DNA Science and the Jewish Bloodline , Texe Marrs (Author) , ISBN-13: 978-1930004818
Who are the Jews? What is their ancestry? Are the Jews a homogenous race? Are Jews descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? Today, DNA science reveals that almost all the Jews in the world come from Khazaria. They are not of the blood lineage of Abraham and the prophets, but of King Bulan and the pagan peoples of the Caucasus. The ancestors of today's Jews are not Israelites but are Khazarians.
Khazaria's people, in the 8th century, converted from paganism to Judaism. In the 10th century, these Khazarian "Jewish" converts emigrated to Eastern Europe, and especially Poland and Lithuania. In 1948, the Khazars, erroneously believing themselves to be "Jews," arrived in the territory of Palestine and set up the state of Israel. The people of Israel today are virtually all of Khazar (Turk/Mongol stock) extraction.
The "Jews" have no genetic claims to the land of Israel and no family connection whatsoever to historical Israel. DNA science joins recent discoveries in history and archaeology to present the world with a correct and remarkable picture of the Jewish people. Now, everything changes! This has been disproved repeatedly. Just out of curiosity are modern jews the descendants of those from thousands of years ago? What were the genes of the Arabs that lived there in the 40s? http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2012/12/new-study-shows-yu-researcher-others-appear-to-have-cooked-the-genetic-books-to-prove-middle-eastern-789.htmlDecember 30, 2012 New Study Shows YU Researcher, Others Appear To Have Cooked The Genetic Books To ‘Prove' Middle Eastern Origin Of The Jewish People When One May Not Really Exist Khazaria_map_from_600_till_850" The various groups of Jews in the world today do not share a common genetic origin. We are talking here about groups that are very heterogeneous and which are connected solely by religion…[the] genome of European Jews is a mosaic of ancient peoples and its origin is largely Khazar.” Khazaria_map_from_600_till_850 Originally published at 9:36 pm CST 12-29-2012 New Study Shows Yeshiva University Researcher, Others Appear To Have Cooked The Genetic Books To ‘Prove' Middle Eastern Origin Of The Jewish People When One May Not Really Exist Shmarya Rosenberg • FailedMessiah.com "My research refutes 40 years of genetic studies, all of which have assumed that the Jews constitute a group that is genetically isolated from other nations,” Dr. Eran Elhaik says. That's because Jews were never genetically isolated, making those other studies fatally flawed and very often contradictory. Now Elhaik, in a study that is being called more profound than all of those that came before his combined, has exposed that fatal flaw and is the first to propose a viable way resolve those contradictions, Ha'aretz reports. The answer to the origin of the Jewish people Elhaik found is startling – for most of us, out Jewish origins really do begin with the Khazars, the Medieval central Asian people whose ruling elite (and perhaps its merchant class, as well) converted to Judaism. The 32-year-old does his work at the School of Public Health of Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland. His study was published earlier this month as, The Missing Link of Jewish European Ancestry: Contrasting the Rhineland and the Khazarian Hypotheses, in the prestigious journal, Genome Biology and Evolution, which is published by Oxford University Press. This study is based on a complete analysis of the comprehensive genetic data published in preceding studies. But in the absence of genetic data for the long-lost Khazars themselves, Elhaik uses a procedure often used by researchers in his field - he used data from populations that are genetically similar to the Khazars, including Georgians, Armenians and Caucasians, populations that Elhaik says have all come from the same genetic soup. When doing so Elhaik discovered what he calls the Khazar component of European Jewry. According to his study’s findings, the dominant element in the genetic makeup of European Jews is Khazar. Among Central European Jews, this makes up the largest part of their genome, 38%. For East European Jews it does the same, at 30%. Elhaik found that European Jews genome is mostly Western European. "[They are] primarily of Western European origin, which is rooted in the Roman Empire, and Middle Eastern origin, whose source is probably Mesopotamia, although it is possible that part of that component can be attributed to Israeli Jews,” he told Ha’aretz by phone from Maryland. That possibility is important because, if it turns out to be true, it could connect European Jews to Israel. However, even if it is true, that connection is only a tiny part of the overall genome, a percentage so small that it would reportedly not be statistically significant enough to show that the origin of the Jews is the Kingdom of Judah in the biblical Land of Israel. But Elhaik's study did find that there is a genetic continuum linking the Jews of Iran, the Caucasus, Azerbaijan and Georgia with the European Jews. These groups could share common ancestors - probably the Khazars. Elhaik says that among the various groupings of European and non-European Jews there is no common genetic origin. "The various groups of Jews in the world today do not share a common genetic origin. We are talking here about groups that are very heterogeneous and which are connected solely by religion…[the] genome of European Jews is a mosaic of ancient peoples and its origin is largely Khazar,” he told Ha’aretz. But what about other much-publicized studies which claim to show common genetic descent for Jews? Many of these papers and books were written by noted professors and published by respected academic journals and publishers – for example, for example, Oxford University Press published, "Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People," by Yeshiva University’s Dr. Harry Ostrer, who teaches in the departments of pathology, genetics and pediatrics in the university's Albert Einstein College of Medicine. He argues that genetics prove the Jews are one people with a Middle Eastern origin. Ostrer found no significant evidence for a connection between the Jews and the Khazars. According to Ostrer, genetically Jews are closer to Palestinians, Bedouin and Druze than to the Khazars. How could Ostrer and so many others have reached conclusions that are co very different from Elhaik’s? Simple, Elhaik says. First these researchers decided what conclusion they wanted to find, and then they set off to find evidence to support it. “[Their research] has no empirical basis, sometimes even contradicts itself and offers conclusions that are simply not convincing…It is my impression that their results were written before they began the research. First they shot their arrow - and then they painted the bull's-eye around it,” Elhaik said. "The majority of Jews do not have the Middle Eastern genetic component in the quantity we would expect to find if they were descendants of the Jews of antiquity,” he said. To Elhaik, there is no uniquely Jewish gene because each human being is a genetic amalgam, and no population group has ever lived in total isolation from other population groups. Haaretz says that it asked a number of scholars from Israel and the Diaspora – both historians and geneticists – what they thought about Elhaik’s article. All of the historians declined to comment on Elhaik’s work, arguing that they were not geneticists and lacked the expertise needed to comment on his work. But every one of the geneticists Ha’aretz contacted also refused to comment. Some ignored Haaretz’s request and never answered at all. Other geneticists claimed they were unfamiliar with population research and therefore could not answer. Still others claimed they lacked the time needed to answer the question. The only scholar who answered Ha’aretz’s question was Tel Aviv University professor of history Shlomo Sand. Sand wrote the book "The Invention of the Jewish People.” It has now been translated into 22 languages, despite what was until Elhaik’s work was published a stacked deck of genetic research that opposed it. Sand has tough words for geneticists looking for Jewish genes. "For an ignoramus like me, genetics had always appeared to be crowned with a halo - as a precise science that deals with quantitative findings and whose conclusions are irrefutable. [But] I discovered geneticists - Jewish geneticists - whose knowledge of history ended at what was necessary for their high-school matriculation exams. Which is how I would describe my knowledge of biology. In high school they had learned that there is one Jewish nation, and, on the basis of this historical narrative, they reconstruct their scholarly findings,” Sand told Ha’aretz. But what really concerns Sand most is the misuse of genetics to characterize people or nations – something the Nazis did with glee and Sand rightly labels as “dangerous.” “[I]n the past, anyone who defined the Jews as a race was vilified as an anti-Semite, today anyone who is unprepared to define them as a race is labeled an antisemite. "I used to think that only in such disciplines as history and literature can facts be given various interpretations, but I then discovered that the same thing is done in genetics. It is very easy to showcase certain findings while marginalizing others and to present your study as scholarly research. In general, specialization in genetics can create an incredibly high level of ignorance in history,” Sand pointed out.
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Ok so if their origins aren't from Israel then how are their holy sites in Israel? This whole argument is flawed from the ground up. So what if people who aren't from Israel follow Judaism? There's nothing in the belief that stipulates any kind of geographical prerequisites.
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You stupid cunt, the Khazar speculation was played out long ago by people much more intelligent than yourself, namely Koestler. Nothing has ever come of it.
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humbert wrote:You stupid cunt, the Khazar speculation was played out long ago by people much more intelligent than yourself, namely Koestler. Nothing has ever come of it. I was reading something the other day about genetic commonality amongst Ashkenazi and Sephardi Jews, as well as Indian and Ethiopian ones I think. There was also some genetic commonality between Jews and Arabs from that region. The Khazar thing was interesting but totally disproved. It'd be the kind of thing Poly would be posting about Jewish conspiracies.
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RedKat wrote:Worth noting the author is Christian minister known for his hate of Catholocism and Judaism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texe_MarrsDoesnt seem like he has any actualy proper scientific qualifications to allow him to make such remarks Calls Hillary Clinton (D) Marxist. Calls Newt Gingrich (R) Marxist. Claims the pope plans to head a New World Order. The guy makes David Icke sound almost well rounded and sane. And that's saying something.
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I think he's referring to Marxism in it's cultural sense, as opposed to it's economic application.
But yeah looks pretty fucking crazy :lol:
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