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Lastbroadcast wrote:Looks like Netenyahu has unexpectedly been re-elected in Isreal on an explicit promise to not support Palestinian statehood. Grab the popcorn. He just got over the line didn't he? -PB
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Japanese navy to extend its reach into Pacific again, and the US is happy about it This story was published: 6 hours ago April 04, 2015 7:54AM JAPAN is back. After almost 70 years of military obscurity, the island nation is exploiting loopholes in its pacifist constitution to rebuild its military. And the US is anxious it continues. Seventy years ago this week, United States and British forces attacked the Ryukyu Islands. Chief among the territory — which Japan regards as part of its home territory — was Okinawa island. Within months Imperial Japan was defeated, and a strict new pacifist constitution imposed. Now, as China races to embrace more of the East and South China Seas, and the United States’ “pivot” to Asia has slowed, it needs strong allies in the Pacific. Japan is that. FLASHPOINT ASIA: The rising tensions to Australia’s north Senior US and Japanese military officers say they hope the Japanese navy may soon be freed up to play a more active role in the Pacific and beyond, plying some of the world’s most hotly contested waters. But, at home, Japan remains divided over proposed changes in the role it should play in regional security issues. The wounds of World War II run deep. And not just inside Japan. Many Asian nations remain uncomfortable with the idea. Memories of Japan’s aircraft carriers and warships storming across the Pacific in 1942 remain strong. A NEW RISING SUN Vice Adm. Robert Thomas, commander of the US Seventh Fleet, said he expects revisions headed for approval in Japan’s parliament will make it easier for the Japanese and allied navies to cooperate more smoothly in the Indian and Pacific oceans. It’s also one of the reasons Washington is urging an Australia-Japan submarine deal: It sees such a multibillion-dollar project as strengthening regional defence ties. Japan is shifting its defence priorities from northern reaches near Russia to the East China Sea, where Tokyo and Beijing are locked in a dispute over a chain of uninhabited islands — part of the same Ryukyu Island chain assaulted exactly 70 years ago. ASIAN ARMS RACE: Expensive and extensive shopping list of weapons Japan is setting up an amphibious deployment unit similar to the US. Marines to respond quickly to any invasion of those islands and is also planning to upgrade its air defences with F-35 stealth fighters and Global Hawk drones. It also includes a force of small aircraft carriers (though you cannot call them that, they’re ‘helicopter destroyers’). Defence analysis now regard Japan as having the fifth most powerful navy in the world, Behind the US, Russia, China and the United Kingdom. COLLECTIVE THINKING One of the key strategic goals for Tokyo and Washington is to allow Japan to participate in what is known as collective self-defence, meaning that it would be able to come to the aid of an ally under attack even if that did not entail a direct attack on Japan or its own military. “They have the capacity and the capability in international waters and international airspace anywhere on the globe. That’s the important point,” Thomas told reporters earlier this week. “The decisions that are pending with regard to collective self-defence will clearly allow the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Forces to interact with, frankly, a lot of international partners, not just the US Seventh Fleet, in a more flexible fashion.” A PLACE IN THE SUN China’s air force recently held its first exercise in western Pacific Ocean, reportedly conducting drills between Taiwan and the Philippines. Last year, it also deployed its first aircraft carrier on manoeuvres in the East and South China Seas. According to the Japanese Defense Ministry, Japanese fighters are also on track to set a new high for emergency scrambles against airspace incursions, increasingly by Chinese aircraft. Russia’s being belligerent again, too. Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, wary of the expansion of the Chinese military, has been a major advocate of loosening post-war restrictions on Japan’s military. WAKE-UP CALL Tokyo and Washington both want Japan to be able to send its troops farther from its shores with fewer restrictions and join in a wider range of activities, from humanitarian operations to exercises in more locations and with a broader range of partners. “There are areas that we can’t now do in a seamless way (with the allied ships), so we hope that these areas will be improved in the process of formulating the guidelines,” Vice Adm. Eiichi Funada, commander of the Japanese fleet, said alongside Thomas at the news conference on the deck of the Blue Ridge. He said that Japan has been very concerned with the expansion of the Chinese military in recent years. “Their recent exercises were also a matter of attention for us. We are not sure what the exact significance of the exercises was, but as part of the expansion of the Chinese military, it is something that we must watch with caution and continue to collect intelligence on.” Thomas was more cautious. “The fact that the PLAN — the Chinese navy — and the Chinese air force continue to expand operations in international waters and international airspace is a natural evolution for them,” he said. “The Chinese navy and more and more the Chinese air force operate globally as do the Japanese as does the United States, as do many international navies with those kinds of capabilities.” http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/japanese-navy-to-extend-its-reach-into-pacific-again-and-the-us-is-happy-about-it/story-fnpjxnlk-1227290886867
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Swiss probe thousands of unclaimed accounts opened before 1955 ReutersMay 3, 2015, 7:52 pm BERLIN/ZURICH (Reuters) - Swiss banks have discovered thousands of accounts opened before 1955 and dormant for at least 50 years, a German newspaper reported on Sunday, saying the move could help reveal where wartime Nazi loot was stashed. Germany's Welt am Sonntag newspaper said the accounts were being examined under a new Swiss law that requires banks to publish information this year on accounts that were opened at least 60 years ago and have been unclaimed for 50 years. A spokeswoman for the Swiss Bankers Association (SBA)confirmed the report, saying the accounts in question were from both Swiss and foreign customers, adding that there was no specific Nazi link and the banks were not looking for particular groups. "This publication is important for the banks as it allows them to search very widely for beneficiaries of the unclaimed wealth before the money has to be handed over to the government," the spokeswoman said. Unclaimed accounts are a sensitive topic in Switzerland after the World Jewish Congress led a campaign in the 1990s for Swiss banks to return assets of Holocaust victims. Strict secrecy laws mean that Swiss banks fiercely guard the identity of their clients, a tradition that has come under fire for helping hide tax evaders and which encouraged Nazis to open accounts in the neutral state during World War Two. The Welt am Sonntag report, published as Berlin marked 70 years since the end of the war, said at least one suspicious account had turned up, opened by a German in 1940 and containing more than 1,000 Swiss francs. The SBA spokeswoman declined to comment on individual cases, saying the investigation was still under way. (Reporting by Emma Thomasson in Berlin and Alice Baghdjian in Zurich; editing by Jane Baird) https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/business/world/a/27567606/
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you literally believe everything you read in the SMH dont you
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ricecrackers wrote:you literally believe everything you read in the SMH dont you I predicted this exact statement from you. Almost word for word.
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u4486662 wrote:ricecrackers wrote:you literally believe everything you read in the SMH dont you I predicted this exact statement from you. Almost word for word. unlucky for you there is no proof of it
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Palmyra overrun by IsisIdiots! We know what the place looks like, we'll just build a replica of it somewhere where Isis cant take it over! :-k
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Moscow issues travel warning over U.S. 'hunt' for Russians :lol: linkthis is the begin of implementing travel restrictions for Russians by Putin..eventually average Russians will only be able to travel to designated countries like North Korea and Vietnam Edited by adrtho: 23/5/2015 10:51:46 AM
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adrtho wrote:Moscow issues travel warning over U.S. 'hunt' for Russians :lol: linkthis is the begin of implementing travel restrictions for Russians by Putin..eventually average Russians will only be able to travel to designated countries like North Korea and Vietnam Edited by adrtho: 23/5/2015 10:51:46 AM wasnt that what happened in episode 9 of House of Cards season 3?
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Condemned666 wrote:adrtho wrote:Moscow issues travel warning over U.S. 'hunt' for Russians :lol: linkthis is the begin of implementing travel restrictions for Russians by Putin..eventually average Russians will only be able to travel to designated countries like North Korea and Vietnam Edited by adrtho: 23/5/2015 10:51:46 AM wasnt that what happened in episode 9 of House of Cards season 3? i'm not sure, i haven't seen that far of this House of Cards ...i know there a Putin looking Russian president in this season of House of Cards but it's already happening in side Russia, many law enforcement type people ban from traveling out side of Russia , only to designated countries Edited by adrtho: 24/5/2015 06:43:18 AM
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WASHINGTON -- The latest trove of secret trade documents released by Wikileaks is offering opponents of the massive deals currently being crafted by the Obama administration more fodder to show that such agreements can impact United States laws and regulations. The latest leak purports to include 17 documents from negotiations on the Trade In Services Agreement, a blandly named trade deal that would cover the United States, the European Union and more than 20 other countries. More than 80 percent of the United States economy is in service sectors. According to the Wikileaks release, TISA, as the deal is known, would take a major step towards deregulating financial industries, and could affect everything from local maritime and air traffic rules to domestic regulations on almost anything if an internationally traded service is involved. The pact would be one of three enormous deals whose passage through Congress could be eased with passage of Trade Promotion Authority, also known as fast-track authority. The Senate has passed fast-track, and it could be taken up in the House this month. The other giant pacts are the Trans-Pacific Partnership covering a dozen Pacific Rim nations and the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership targeted at Europe. Among the staunchest opponents of the deals are unions, whose members point to job losses sparked by previous free-trade agreements, and to the excessive secrecy surrounding the measures. "Once again Wikileaks reveals what we cannot learn from our own government, a government that defaults to giant trade deals that affect generations of Americans shrouded in secrecy until they are virtually adopted," said Communications Workers of America President Larry Cohen. "Today's leaks of TISA (trade in services) text reveal once again how dangerous Fast Track Authority is when it comes to protecting citizen rights vs. corporate rights," he added. "This TISA text again favors privatization over public services, limits governmental action on issues ranging from safety to the environment using trade as a smokescreen to limit citizen rights." The Office of the United States Trade Representative and top European officials have repeatedly denied that TISA or the Transatlantic deal would impact local laws, releasing a joint statement to that effect earlier this spring. Still, the Wikileaks documents suggest that World Trade Organization-style tribunals would be expanded under TISA, and that such tribunals convened to resolve trade disputes can impact local laws. One such WTO tribunal ruled last month that the United States must repeal its laws requiring meat to be labeled with its country of origin, or face punitive tariffs on exports. The USTR declined to confirm whether or not the Wikileaks documents were genuine, calling them "alleged leaked negotiating information," but insisted that the agreement was especially important to the United States and its expansive service sector. "It is important to underscore that American services exports are at all-time high of $710.6 billion, and those exports support 4.6 million well-paying jobs all over the country," USTR spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement. "That is why President Obama has made opening markets for U.S. services exporters a chief priority of his Middle Class Economics agenda. The TPA legislation that passed the Senate last week with bipartisan support contains first-of-their-kind provisions to strengthen the President’s hand when it comes to expanding market access for American services exporters, including through the TPP, T-TIP, and TISA.” Similarly, Brendan Buck, a spokesman for House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), pointed to the fast-track bill as a way to ensure people get to see what is in the deals before they pass, noting that under fast track, the president would have to unveil each proposal and wait for two months before Congress could vote on it. "If secrecy is a concern, TPA is the solution," Buck said. "For the first time, it will ensure a trade agreement is public and posted online for 60 days before it can be sent to Congress." However, fast-track authority also removes Congress' ability to change the trade deals in any way by barring all amendments to them. It also bars filibustering or other procedural hurdles that lawmakers in the minority can typically use to slow legislation, and requires a simple up-or-down vote to be held on the deals. Fast-track opponents like Cohen warn that a corporate-friendly Congress -- especially a GOP-led Congress that is already hostile to regulations -- would be extremely unlikely to block any of the looming trade agreements, regardless of the details released Wednesday. "Those in the U.S. Congress considering Fast Track should take heed," Cohen said. "TISA is as big a blow to our rights and freedom as the Trans-Pacific Partnership, and in both cases our government’s secrecy is the key enabler." Wikileaks has also released several parts of the TPP, and announced Tuesday that it is offering a $100,000 reward to anyone who can fork over the still-secret chapters. During his Wednesday briefing, White House press secretary Josh Earnest dismissed the idea that the release of those documents would amount to much, saying the trade deal hasn't been finalized yet. "Our reaction is just simply that there is no TPP agreement right now. When we have one, it will be made public," said Earnest. "The president continues to be confident that if we're able to reach an agreement, it will be consistent with the TPA legislation that has already passed the Senate and hopefully will soon pass the House." -PB
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Is anyone even surprised that Russia used Veto? -PB
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Quote:Russia's UN ambassador, Vitaly Churkin, said it was premature to set up an international tribunal, saying there were "no grounds" for a tribunal as the crash was "not a threat to international security". Please please please let this man be assassinated. Edited by melbourne_terrace: 30/7/2015 08:50:43 AM
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South Korea fires artillery rounds into North Korea in retaliation for suspected rocket Date August 20, 2015 - 7:19PM Philip Wen Beijing: North and South Korea have exchanged fire along the countries' western border, in the latest escalation of cross-border violence. North Korea had fired at a South Korean military loudspeaker that had been blaring anti-Pyongyang broadcasts in recent days, prompting South Korea to respond by launching "dozens of shells" at the source of the attack, South Korean media reports said. There were no immediate reports of casualties or damage on either side. State-run KBS News quoted a South Korean military official as saying that the North Korean military opened fire at 3.52pm local time on Thursday. "A trajectory of supposedly North Korean military shells has been detected by [South Korea's radar] detection system," a defence ministry official said. Advertisement North Korea did not immediately respond to the South's return fire, the defence ministry said. South Korea was to hold an urgent national security council session over the attack and had ordered a civilian evacuation near the western border, Yonhap reported. Relations between North and South have been strained after Seoul accused Pyongyang of planting landmines that exploded earlier this month, wounding two South Korean soldiers. In retaliation, Seoul restarted cross-border propaganda broadcasts on loudspeakers that had sat dormant for nearly a decade. North Korea denied planting the landmines and last week threatened "all-out military action" against "anti-North Korean psychological warfare" if the South Korea did not immediately cease the broadcasts. Tensions routinely flare up between the two Koreas, separated by a heavily fortified de-militarised zone. The two sides are technically still at war after their 1950s conflict ended in truce rather than a peace treaty. Thursday's exchange of fire came amid ongoing annual joint US and South Korean military exercises, which began on Monday and which North Korea regards as preparation for war. Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/south-korea-fires-artillery-rounds-into-north-korea-in-retaliation-for-suspected-rocket-20150820-gj43xk.html#ixzz3jMHrzlBU Follow us: @theage on Twitter | theageAustralia on Facebook
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So Shinzo Abe finally got the changes made to allow Japan to "defend allies". Stinks of USA pushing this agenda. -PB
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Ah no... USA obviously supports the agenda. But Abe has been pushing this agenda for a long time, his grandfather was a well known nationalist politician also.
Abe also continues to visit the Shrine where convicted Japanese War Criminals are interred.
I don't think Abe is a rabid nationalist, more of an opportunistic populist, with nationalist tendencies.
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AzzaMarch wrote:Ah no... USA obviously supports the agenda. But Abe has been pushing this agenda for a long time, his grandfather was a well known nationalist politician also.
Abe also continues to visit the Shrine where convicted Japanese War Criminals are interred.
I don't think Abe is a rabid nationalist, more of an opportunistic populist, with nationalist tendencies. You don't think it's a bit weird that they would want to defend allies in the region, like all those US military bases? So when USA finally takes a poke at China or North Korea they have an excuse to be involved? -PB
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Stampede in MeccaIs it odd there have been no terrorist attacks during the Hajj? And Shia and Sunnis just happen to get along at this time of the year? Also, the news was reporting that Australia was looking to identify any 'Australians' that might have been killed in the stampede? What 'Australians' do they speak of?
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paulbagzFC wrote: You don't think it's a bit weird that they would want to defend allies in the region, like all those US military bases?
So when USA finally takes a poke at China or North Korea they have an excuse to be involved?
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That is an misunderstanding of the basic mechanics at play here. There has been constant lobbying of Japan by the USA for decades to "pull their weight" when it comes to regional security (kind of ironic given that it was the USA who imposed a pacifist constitution of Japan after WW2). Abe has had a longterm nationalist agenda for Japan to strengthen militarily. The US has no requirement for Japan to have a stronger army in order to get involved in the region. They are already treaty-bound to defend both Taiwan and Japan in the event of an attack. This is about Japan shouldering some responsibility in the regional security framework.
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Condemned666 wrote:Stampede in MeccaIs it odd there have been no terrorist attacks during the Hajj? And Shia and Sunnis just happen to get along at this time of the year? Also, the news was reporting that Australia was looking to identify any 'Australians' that might have been killed in the stampede? What 'Australians' do they speak of? Ok I'll bite - Not all Sunni and Shia hate each other. And the dynamics at play in the region with sectarian violence has a lot more to do with the geo-political machinations of the govts of countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran, rather than some inherent hatred between the sects. The closest analogy I can think of is Norhern Ireland - Catholics and Protestants didn't hate and kill each other world-wide, but the political situation in Northern Ireland contributed to sectarian hatred there. And I'll take a bite at your second point - are you implying that by undertaking a pilgrim to Mecca, muslims from Australia are not Australian?
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paulbagzFC wrote:AzzaMarch wrote:Ah no... USA obviously supports the agenda. But Abe has been pushing this agenda for a long time, his grandfather was a well known nationalist politician also.
Abe also continues to visit the Shrine where convicted Japanese War Criminals are interred.
I don't think Abe is a rabid nationalist, more of an opportunistic populist, with nationalist tendencies. You don't think it's a bit weird that they would want to defend allies in the region, like all those US military bases? So when USA finally takes a poke at China or North Korea they have an excuse to be involved? -PB Silly comment from you.
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Putin targeting freedom fighters and innocents in Syria whilst ignoring IS positions Russia's tyrant backing another tyrant What a mess! Quote:[size=8]Russia begins air strikes in Syria, but is not targeting Islamic State[/size]Date October 1, 2015 - 6:28AM Ruth Pollard US questions Russian air strike targets Russia says its air strikes in Syria are targeting IS camps, but the US says the strikes are hitting areas held by western-backed opponents of Syrian President Assad. Russia's backing of Syria explained Russia launched its first air strikes in Syria on Wednesday, reportedly hitting opposition-held areas in the province of Homs rather than the Islamic State militants it says it is targeting in its move to shore up the Syrian regime. Local activists reported dozens of civilians, including several children, died in the attacks. Russian Su-27 fighters in China ... The Russian Air Force has struck targets in Syria but US and French sources claim that Islamic State jihadists were not hit in the raids. File photo. Russian Su-27 fighters in China ... The Russian Air Force has struck targets in Syria but US and French sources claim that Islamic State jihadists were not hit in the raids. File photo. Photo: AP The Russian fighter jets launched their bombing raids from an airbase in the coastal city of Latakia just hours after Russian President Vladimir Putin secured his parliament's unanimous approval for military intervention in Syria. Russia's Ministry of Defence told Interfax News its missiles had struck "identified ISIL targets" after giving the United States – whose fighter jets, along with those from France, Australia and Canada, have also been conducting air strikes in Syria – only short notice of the attacks. Local activists released videos showing the chaotic aftermath of the air strikes, one filmed from an ambulance racing through suburban streets towards what appeared to be an apartment block that had collapsed onto the footpath, smoke billowing into the sky. A Russian Sukhoi SU-30 fighter. In recent weeks, Russia has deployed more than two dozen fighter aircraft, attack helicopters and surface-to-air missile defence systems to a base in Syria, according to US officials. A Russian Sukhoi SU-30 fighter. In recent weeks, Russia has deployed more than two dozen fighter aircraft, attack helicopters and surface-to-air missile defence systems to a base in Syria, according to US officials. Photo: AP Graphic footage of the dead, including children, was also circulating, although Fairfax Media was unable to confirm the source of the air strikes that hit the rebel-held northern suburbs of the Homs province, including Talbisah, al-Ghantoo, al-Rastan, al-Zafrana and al-Mukarramiyah. The White Helmets, a Syrian search and rescue organisation, says at least 33 people including three children and one of their own volunteers, died in the attacks. Smoke rises after airstrikes by military jets in Talbiseh in the Homs province, western Syria, after Russian military jets carried out airstrikes for the first time. Smoke rises after airstrikes by military jets in Talbiseh in the Homs province, western Syria, after Russian military jets carried out airstrikes for the first time. Photo: Homs Media Centre/AP Talbisah is home to al-Qaeda affiliate Jabhat al-Nusra, as well as the Islamist Ahrar al-Sham group along with some so-called Western-backed rebels and other local opposition groups, writes Genevieve Casagrande from the US-based Institute for the Study of War. "If confirmed, the airstrike would signal Russian intent to assist in the Syrian regime's war effort at large, rather than securing the regime's coastal heartland of Latakia and Tartus." A US official told Reuters that the air strikes appeared to have hit areas that were not held by Islamic State. A satellite image shows Russian transport aircraft, helicopters, tanks, trucks and armed personnel carriers at an air base in Latakia in Syria. A satellite image shows Russian transport aircraft, helicopters, tanks, trucks and armed personnel carriers at an air base in Latakia in Syria. Photo: AP A French security source agreed, telling Reuters: "If it is Homs, which it seems to be, it is not Daesh (Islamic State) that they are targeting, but probably opposition groups, which confirms that they are more in support of Bashar's regime than in fighting Daesh." Russia's intervention in Syria was a game changer for the United States, Europe and Turkey, says Fawaz Gerges, a Middle East expert from the London School of Economics and Political Science. "It will prolong the lifespan of the Assad regime, and it will most likely prevent any foreign intervention by Turkey and the US to create any safe zones for Syrians or assert any more pressure on Assad to leave," Prof Gerges says. Islamic State jihadists hold up their weapons and wave flags from their vehicles in a convoy near Raqqa city in Syria, in this undated photograph. Islamic State jihadists hold up their weapons and wave flags from their vehicles in a convoy near Raqqa city in Syria, in this undated photograph. Photo: AP "The US-led coalition is based on the idea that first you defeat ISIS, while building the capacity of the local forces on the ground … and eventually force Assad to leave." The Syrian leader had suffered several major strategic setbacks over the last few months, particularly in Idlib and Homs, and Russian intervention may allow him to stay on despite this loss of territory. "Russia has given Assad a new lease on life and complicated the American strategy," he says, warning: "I doubt very much Russian intervention will make much of a difference in the fight against ISIS." Tense negotiations ... Russian President Vladimir Putin, centre, and Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, left, listen to US Secretary of State John Kerry, right, before a bilateral meeting in New York on Monday. Tense negotiations ... Russian President Vladimir Putin, centre, and Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, left, listen to US Secretary of State John Kerry, right, before a bilateral meeting in New York on Monday. Photo: AP The attacks follow three weeks of military build up, in which Russia has deployed at least 28 fighter jets, 14 helicopters, dozens of tanks, anti-aircraft missile systems and around 2000 troops into north-western Syria. The Russian President set the stage for the attacks with his speech this week to the United Nations General Assembly. Kremlin chief of staff, Sergey Ivanov told local media "The operation's military goal is exclusively air support of the Syrian armed forces in their fight against ISIL", insisting there would be no ground troops fighting in Syria. Russian ally ... Syria's President Bashar al-Assad. Russian ally ... Syria's President Bashar al-Assad. Photo: Remy de la Mauviniere The Russian air force was dispatched to Syria following a formal request from Syria, President Assad's office said in a statement. An estimated 250,000 people have been killed in Syria's four-year civil war that has turned into a multi-cornered battle between Syrian regime forces, Western-backed and Islamist rebel groups and Islamic State militants. More than four million Syrians have fled their homes, mostly to neighbouring countries, while a further 7.6 million have been displaced. Human rights groups say the Assad regime, rather than the Islamic State, is responsible for the majority of deaths in Syria, in particular via its use of barrel bombs. The Syrian Government denies the allegations. Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/russias-air-strikes-not-targeting-islamic-state-areas-in-syria-us-official-20150930-gjykhi.html#ixzz3nHcctAWm Follow us: @smh on Twitter | sydneymorningherald on Facebook
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Another school shooting in the US. "This is the 45th shooting at a school in 2015 and the 142nd shooting since the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown." "Witnesses at the scene described how the shooter asked people to state their religions before he opened fire, according to US media repoarts." http://mobile.news.com.au/world/north-america/umpqua-community-college-shooting-leaves-many-dead/story-fnh81jut-1227553257374Edited by Joffa: 2/10/2015 07:52:44 AMEdited by Joffa: 2/10/2015 07:54:16 AM
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err i don't believe in conspiracies. Weak argument. Thought you were a decent poster in the past.
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JonoMV wrote:err i don't believe in conspiracies. Weak argument. Thought you were a decent poster in the past. ok, I called your meme and I raised you a meme Edited by trident: 2/10/2015 10:11:57 AM
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11903702/Russias-Vladimir-Putin-launches-strikes-in-Syria-on-Isil-to-US-anger-live-updates.html'Russia kills US-backed Syrian rebels in second day of air strikes as Iran prepares for ground offensive' - live updates Quote:The groups they are bombing a spectrum of opposition groups from an alliance called Jaish al-Fatah - Army of Conquest - to brigades of “moderate” rebels backed and trained by the US. Jaish al-Fatah made up of hardline groups that include Jabhat al-Nusra, which is aligned to al-Qaeda, so they are formally designated by the West and the United Nations as terrorists. So yeah that was the point of my meme. No hard feelings. Had a few patients over the years from Syria, feel sorry for the people. Edited by jonomv: 2/10/2015 10:16:57 AM
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JonoMV wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11903702/Russias-Vladimir-Putin-launches-strikes-in-Syria-on-Isil-to-US-anger-live-updates.html 'Russia kills US-backed Syrian rebels in second day of air strikes as Iran prepares for ground offensive' - live updates Quote:The groups they are bombing a spectrum of opposition groups from an alliance called Jaish al-Fatah - Army of Conquest - to brigades of “moderate” rebels backed and trained by the US. Jaish al-Fatah made up of hardline groups that include Jabhat al-Nusra, which is aligned to al-Qaeda, so they are formally designated by the West and the United Nations as terrorists. So yeah that was the point of my meme. No hard feelings. Had a few patients over the years from Syria, feel sorry for the people. Edited by jonomv: 2/10/2015 10:16:57 AM US is obviously not training terrorists was my point
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