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Quote:Police warn women in Ostersund to go out alone
Police held Monday a press conference with Sanna Matsson, investigator Peter Moberg, local police area manager östersund and Stephen Jerand, police area manager Jamtland. Photo: SVT Now the police out and warn women from traveling alone in town. - We have seen a worrying trend, says Stephen Jerand, police area manager.
Since February 20, six reports of violence against women reported in Östersund. All have been about unprovoked violence against women outdoors. In all cases, it has been unknown perpetrators.
As we said at the weekend subjected a woman for attempted rape in central Östersund on Saturday night. In that night was also another female victim of abuse. But in addition it has thus further four cases submitted to the police.
- This is serious. We care about the protection of women and that is why we go out and talk about this, says Stephen Jerand.
Assault on bus station Among the reports that police now tell if there is a case of molestation of a 10-year-old girls on the bus square in central Östersund. In addition, there are two further reports of ill-treatment of single women. February 26 will, for example, a woman being beaten by three men. In that case, there is a suspected offender.
- He tried to get out of the country but in Germany, he was stopped and sent back to Sweden. Now he is in custody, said Stephen Jerand and tells that person could be arrested with the help of identifying data from the victim. The motive for the attack should however be unknown.
In the other cases, there are no suspects yet. Some forensic evidence exists but is now appealing the police to the public.
- These people in the center of town, someone must have seen or heard something, Jerand says and continues:
- Of course we want to sort out these crimes and prosecute the suspects.
Do not go alone The three police officers who attended the press conference says that they have never experienced anything similar in Östersund. This is also why they now go out and warn women to touch themselves in the center of Östersund in the late evenings and nights.
- Arrange a ride or walk in groups, says Jerand.
- There is no normal picture we see, he says.
The police have no evidence that it will be the same perpetrators but at the moment excludes nothing.
Choosing to inform Is there no danger of going out and alert now. That you scaring people?
- Yes, but at the same time, police have previously been criticized for not going out and inform people, I think of the example of the criticism for We Are Stockholm festival. Therefore we choose now to go out and tell. We would, of course, not scare people, but at the same time, we have a responsibility to tell what is happening, he says.
Is it not the police's job to ensure the security?
- Well, it is clear that the police have a crime prevention mission. But in all types of crime, we are seeking information from the public. People see and hear but may not linking it to a specific event.
Take "measures" But you now go out and warn, it is considered as the police did not manage to maintain the safety of the residents in Östersund?
- No, definitely not. But it is impossible to scan all the streets. That we go out with anmaningen of caution is that women in particular should think about how to move in some places, says Jerand, adding that the police after the weekend's events have "taken action with a lot of effort." But he would not elaborate on what the police will do. http://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/jamtland/polisen-varnar-kvinnor-i-ostersund-for-att-ga-ut
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quickflick wrote:tsf wrote:Was in Germany last week and it still seemed normal, however there are a lot of of middle eastern people there now. Was actually very noticeable. That's good. It's a very multicultural place and has taken in more than its fair share of Syrian refugees (unlike others). Yes, it's absolutely fantastic that the native population is being demographically replaced. Just splendid.
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Hopefully this pushes us closer to the collapse of the EU.
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433 wrote:
Yes, it's absolutely fantastic that the native population is being demographically replaced. Just splendid.
You never struck me as the kind of person who'd stand up and condemn hundreds of years of Western colonialism, but there you go. You're more enlightened than I thought.
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TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:
Yes, it's absolutely fantastic that the native population is being demographically replaced. Just splendid.
You never struck me as the kind of person who'd stand up and condemn hundreds of years of Western colonialism, but there you go. You're more enlightened than I thought. Ask yourself how that went for the native populations :lol:
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433 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:
Yes, it's absolutely fantastic that the native population is being demographically replaced. Just splendid.
You never struck me as the kind of person who'd stand up and condemn hundreds of years of Western colonialism, but there you go. You're more enlightened than I thought. Ask yourself how that went for the native populations :lol: Oh right, you were talking about families moving somewhere for a better life. Truly an existential threat.
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TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:
Yes, it's absolutely fantastic that the native population is being demographically replaced. Just splendid.
You never struck me as the kind of person who'd stand up and condemn hundreds of years of Western colonialism, but there you go. You're more enlightened than I thought. Ask yourself how that went for the native populations :lol: Oh right, you were talking about families moving somewhere for a better life. Truly an existential threat. I love this meme. When they refuse to integrate, and it detriments the native population, what incentive for the natives is there for letting these people in when the majority of them are young men.
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433 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:
Yes, it's absolutely fantastic that the native population is being demographically replaced. Just splendid.
You never struck me as the kind of person who'd stand up and condemn hundreds of years of Western colonialism, but there you go. You're more enlightened than I thought. Ask yourself how that went for the native populations :lol: Oh right, you were talking about families moving somewhere for a better life. Truly an existential threat. I love this meme. When they refuse to integrate, and it detriments the native population, what incentive for the natives is there for letting these people in when the majority of them are young men. A larger labour market? A larger consumer market? A more diverse and innovative society? Take your pick.
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scott21 wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:scott21 wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Odds on Euros being called off?
-PB No, but the Turkish fans are going to get messed up. Lol? -PB [youtube]0mSWLoCx-WI[/youtube] [youtube]cBRSfdAvsDQ[/youtube] Edited by scott21: 22/3/2016 10:45:23 PMEdited by scott21: 22/3/2016 10:46:10 PM I always thought Turks were more secular than most other Muslim nations. Nah, after that they can go fuck themselves.
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433 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:
Yes, it's absolutely fantastic that the native population is being demographically replaced. Just splendid.
You never struck me as the kind of person who'd stand up and condemn hundreds of years of Western colonialism, but there you go. You're more enlightened than I thought. Ask yourself how that went for the native populations :lol: Oh right, you were talking about families moving somewhere for a better life. Truly an existential threat. I love this meme. When they refuse to integrate, and it detriments the native population, what incentive for the natives is there for letting these people in when the majority of them are young men. just look at all those women and children  World war within 3 short years Edited by Far Reich: 22/3/2016 11:30:35 PM
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:lol: I wonder whose multi this is?
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TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:
Yes, it's absolutely fantastic that the native population is being demographically replaced. Just splendid.
You never struck me as the kind of person who'd stand up and condemn hundreds of years of Western colonialism, but there you go. You're more enlightened than I thought. Ask yourself how that went for the native populations :lol: Oh right, you were talking about families moving somewhere for a better life. Truly an existential threat. I love this meme. When they refuse to integrate, and it detriments the native population, what incentive for the natives is there for letting these people in when the majority of them are young men. A larger labour market? A larger consumer market? A more diverse and innovative society? Take your pick. Profits before people. Gotcha mate.
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433 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:
Yes, it's absolutely fantastic that the native population is being demographically replaced. Just splendid.
You never struck me as the kind of person who'd stand up and condemn hundreds of years of Western colonialism, but there you go. You're more enlightened than I thought. Ask yourself how that went for the native populations :lol: Oh right, you were talking about families moving somewhere for a better life. Truly an existential threat. I love this meme. When they refuse to integrate, and it detriments the native population, what incentive for the natives is there for letting these people in when the majority of them are young men. A larger labour market? A larger consumer market? A more diverse and innovative society? Take your pick. Profits before people. Gotcha mate. Yep, excellent point. Economic growth is really bad for ordinary people.
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TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:
Yes, it's absolutely fantastic that the native population is being demographically replaced. Just splendid.
You never struck me as the kind of person who'd stand up and condemn hundreds of years of Western colonialism, but there you go. You're more enlightened than I thought. Ask yourself how that went for the native populations :lol: Oh right, you were talking about families moving somewhere for a better life. Truly an existential threat. I love this meme. When they refuse to integrate, and it detriments the native population, what incentive for the natives is there for letting these people in when the majority of them are young men. A larger labour market? A larger consumer market? A more diverse and innovative society? Take your pick. Profits before people. Gotcha mate. Yep, excellent point. Economic growth is really bad for ordinary people. Will mean nothing when European's and their culture ceases to exist
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433 wrote:Hopefully this pushes us closer to the collapse of the EU. respond to my pm fgt
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433 again. You are a comedy goldmine :lol:
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quickflick wrote:tsf wrote:Cannot stand apologists who instantly post shit on social media like 'if western countries didn't bomb Syria then this wouldn't happen'
Yeah because a Belgian Tunisian who's probably never even been to the Middle East (unless it's to murder people) blowing himself and with defenseless people fro Belgium who have nothing to do with it is the logical next step for that action.
It depends how they say it. If they say it distastefully (i.e. they don't actually care about the people who have been blown up), then I agree with you. But if they are looking for root causes behind surges in terrorist activity... It's part of the reason why this happens. Over the last fifteen years, various Western nations have behaved deplorably in the Middle-East. If we were to apply Nuremberg standards of justice to our own behaviour, an awful lot of Western leaders and military personnel would have been indicted. This does not excuse terrorism. It goes a long way to accounting for why it happens and why people hate the West so palpably. Understanding is key to prevention. People who just carry on hating Islamic people and fail to understand the root causes are do more to help the cause of terrorists than anybody. So because Belgium is a western country it's their fault they were bombed?
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tsf wrote:quickflick wrote:tsf wrote:Cannot stand apologists who instantly post shit on social media like 'if western countries didn't bomb Syria then this wouldn't happen'
Yeah because a Belgian Tunisian who's probably never even been to the Middle East (unless it's to murder people) blowing himself and with defenseless people fro Belgium who have nothing to do with it is the logical next step for that action.
It depends how they say it. If they say it distastefully (i.e. they don't actually care about the people who have been blown up), then I agree with you. But if they are looking for root causes behind surges in terrorist activity... It's part of the reason why this happens. Over the last fifteen years, various Western nations have behaved deplorably in the Middle-East. If we were to apply Nuremberg standards of justice to our own behaviour, an awful lot of Western leaders and military personnel would have been indicted. This does not excuse terrorism. It goes a long way to accounting for why it happens and why people hate the West so palpably. Understanding is key to prevention. People who just carry on hating Islamic people and fail to understand the root causes are do more to help the cause of terrorists than anybody. So because Belgium is a western country it's their fault they were bombed? I don't know the exact details of Belgian involvement in the Middle-East. Suffice it to say, Western countries have done terrible things in the Iraq and Afghanistan in recent years. Many innocent people have been killed on account of actions of Western governments. This doesn't make it acceptable to commit terrorist acts against the West, or even act to mitigate it. But it accounts for it. The way I see it, it's preferable if there are no attacks in the first place. If you understand why they happen, it might be possible to prevent them in future. Although we're in so deep right now :( Better than simply running around screaming I HATE MUSLIMS THEY ARE SCUM
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An anti Islam multi? Seriosuly? What coward wants to hide their views behind a multi ffs. -PB
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quickflick wrote:tsf wrote:quickflick wrote:tsf wrote:Cannot stand apologists who instantly post shit on social media like 'if western countries didn't bomb Syria then this wouldn't happen'
Yeah because a Belgian Tunisian who's probably never even been to the Middle East (unless it's to murder people) blowing himself and with defenseless people fro Belgium who have nothing to do with it is the logical next step for that action.
It depends how they say it. If they say it distastefully (i.e. they don't actually care about the people who have been blown up), then I agree with you. But if they are looking for root causes behind surges in terrorist activity... It's part of the reason why this happens. Over the last fifteen years, various Western nations have behaved deplorably in the Middle-East. If we were to apply Nuremberg standards of justice to our own behaviour, an awful lot of Western leaders and military personnel would have been indicted. This does not excuse terrorism. It goes a long way to accounting for why it happens and why people hate the West so palpably. Understanding is key to prevention. People who just carry on hating Islamic people and fail to understand the root causes are do more to help the cause of terrorists than anybody. So because Belgium is a western country it's their fault they were bombed? I don't know the exact details of Belgian involvement in the Middle-East. Suffice it to say, Western countries have done terrible things in the Iraq and Afghanistan in recent years. Many innocent people have been killed on account of actions of Western governments. This doesn't make it acceptable to commit terrorist acts against the West, or even act to mitigate it. But it accounts for it. The way I see it, it's preferable if there are no attacks in the first place. If you understand why they happen, it might be possible to prevent them in future. Although we're in so deep right now :( Better than simply running around screaming I HATE MUSLIMS THEY ARE SCUM again, you are wrong.....you're make a simple case that because of Iraq and Afghanistan this has lead to terrorist acts ..but Iraq and Afghanistan happen because of the terrorist acts of 9/11 If the US wasn't in Iraq or Afghanistan, then the terrorist acts would still happen, they would just move the goal post for the reason why it happen (maybe because some cartoon in some dumb ass newspaper that no one reads) terrorist acts happen, because it;s a easy way for the weak group to attack a strong group
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quickflick wrote: I don't know the exact details of Belgian involvement in the Middle-East. Suffice it to say, Western countries have done terrible things in the Iraq and Afghanistan in recent years. Many innocent people have been killed on account of actions of Western governments.
I really strongly despise seeing this sort of nonsense. quickflick wrote: This doesn't make it acceptable to commit terrorist acts against the West, or even act to mitigate it. But it accounts for it.
Yet if the west was to sit back and let the Sunni's and Shia's duel it out, the west would be seen as ignoring a humanitarian issue. Hey, imagine the shit storm we'd face if we didn't let the Syrians in? This sort of argument is something I find terribly shallow. I dislike seeing accountability thrown around like this. quickflick wrote: The way I see it, it's preferable if there are no attacks in the first place. If you understand why they happen, it might be possible to prevent them in future. Although we're in so deep right now :(
We're screwed, you're right. The wests involvement in wars has done nothing but incite hatred. Yet we are going to freely let these hate-filled 'refugees' into our countries? Interesting. quickflick wrote: Better than simply running around screaming I HATE MUSLIMS THEY ARE SCUM
They have a lot to answer for.
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:TheDecider wrote:433 wrote:
Yes, it's absolutely fantastic that the native population is being demographically replaced. Just splendid.
You never struck me as the kind of person who'd stand up and condemn hundreds of years of Western colonialism, but there you go. You're more enlightened than I thought. Ask yourself how that went for the native populations :lol: Oh right, you were talking about families moving somewhere for a better life. Truly an existential threat. I love this meme. When they refuse to integrate, and it detriments the native population, what incentive for the natives is there for letting these people in when the majority of them are young men. A larger labour market? A larger consumer market? A more diverse and innovative society? Take your pick. Profits before people. Gotcha mate. Yep, excellent point. Economic growth is really bad for ordinary people. First it was about families seeking refuge, now it's about economic growth? Which one is it? Those things aren't mutually exclusive. The point is immigration benefits everyone (both the immigrants and the local populations).
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adrtho wrote:quickflick wrote:tsf wrote:quickflick wrote:tsf wrote:Cannot stand apologists who instantly post shit on social media like 'if western countries didn't bomb Syria then this wouldn't happen'
Yeah because a Belgian Tunisian who's probably never even been to the Middle East (unless it's to murder people) blowing himself and with defenseless people fro Belgium who have nothing to do with it is the logical next step for that action.
It depends how they say it. If they say it distastefully (i.e. they don't actually care about the people who have been blown up), then I agree with you. But if they are looking for root causes behind surges in terrorist activity... It's part of the reason why this happens. Over the last fifteen years, various Western nations have behaved deplorably in the Middle-East. If we were to apply Nuremberg standards of justice to our own behaviour, an awful lot of Western leaders and military personnel would have been indicted. This does not excuse terrorism. It goes a long way to accounting for why it happens and why people hate the West so palpably. Understanding is key to prevention. People who just carry on hating Islamic people and fail to understand the root causes are do more to help the cause of terrorists than anybody. So because Belgium is a western country it's their fault they were bombed? I don't know the exact details of Belgian involvement in the Middle-East. Suffice it to say, Western countries have done terrible things in the Iraq and Afghanistan in recent years. Many innocent people have been killed on account of actions of Western governments. This doesn't make it acceptable to commit terrorist acts against the West, or even act to mitigate it. But it accounts for it. The way I see it, it's preferable if there are no attacks in the first place. If you understand why they happen, it might be possible to prevent them in future. Although we're in so deep right now :( Better than simply running around screaming I HATE MUSLIMS THEY ARE SCUM again, you are wrong.....you're make a simple case that because of Iraq and Afghanistan this has lead to terrorist acts ..but Iraq and Afghanistan happen because of the terrorist acts of 9/11 If the US wasn't in Iraq or Afghanistan, then the terrorist acts would still happen, they would just move the goal post for the reason why it happen (maybe because some cartoon in some dumb ass newspaper that no one reads) terrorist acts happen, because it;s a easy way for the weak group to attack a strong group Every political scientist on the planet warned that the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan would lead to a dramatic increase in the chances of an IS type situation rising. Events like these have been happening for the past 200 years and there are very clear patterns and causes for this type of crap. Patterns and causes that the US and its allies continually ignore and think that violence will solve violence when it clearly does not. New strategies need to be developed and fast.
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Scotch&Coke wrote:adrtho wrote:quickflick wrote:tsf wrote:quickflick wrote:tsf wrote:Cannot stand apologists who instantly post shit on social media like 'if western countries didn't bomb Syria then this wouldn't happen'
Yeah because a Belgian Tunisian who's probably never even been to the Middle East (unless it's to murder people) blowing himself and with defenseless people fro Belgium who have nothing to do with it is the logical next step for that action.
It depends how they say it. If they say it distastefully (i.e. they don't actually care about the people who have been blown up), then I agree with you. But if they are looking for root causes behind surges in terrorist activity... It's part of the reason why this happens. Over the last fifteen years, various Western nations have behaved deplorably in the Middle-East. If we were to apply Nuremberg standards of justice to our own behaviour, an awful lot of Western leaders and military personnel would have been indicted. This does not excuse terrorism. It goes a long way to accounting for why it happens and why people hate the West so palpably. Understanding is key to prevention. People who just carry on hating Islamic people and fail to understand the root causes are do more to help the cause of terrorists than anybody. So because Belgium is a western country it's their fault they were bombed? I don't know the exact details of Belgian involvement in the Middle-East. Suffice it to say, Western countries have done terrible things in the Iraq and Afghanistan in recent years. Many innocent people have been killed on account of actions of Western governments. This doesn't make it acceptable to commit terrorist acts against the West, or even act to mitigate it. But it accounts for it. The way I see it, it's preferable if there are no attacks in the first place. If you understand why they happen, it might be possible to prevent them in future. Although we're in so deep right now :( Better than simply running around screaming I HATE MUSLIMS THEY ARE SCUM again, you are wrong.....you're make a simple case that because of Iraq and Afghanistan this has lead to terrorist acts ..but Iraq and Afghanistan happen because of the terrorist acts of 9/11 If the US wasn't in Iraq or Afghanistan, then the terrorist acts would still happen, they would just move the goal post for the reason why it happen (maybe because some cartoon in some dumb ass newspaper that no one reads) terrorist acts happen, because it;s a easy way for the weak group to attack a strong group Every political scientist on the planet warned that the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan would lead to a dramatic increase in the chances of an IS type situation rising. Events like these have been happening for the past 200 years and there are very clear patterns and causes for this type of crap. Patterns and causes that the US and its allies continually ignore and think that violence will solve violence when it clearly does not. New strategies need to be developed and fast. ISIS happen because Iran took control of Iraq and the USA said who give a fuck...not because USA invade Iraq ISIS is a Sunni tool to fight Iran government control in Iraq and Syria...the idea that this only happen because of something the USA did or didn't do is crazy now we get to watch, how many people die, when the USA say they don't give a fuck and stay the hell out
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[youtube]jSbgxChQAhQ[/youtube]
This came up on my fb page. When they get attacked at 12.30, what do they expect?
Dont go to Rinkeby and start filming people.
There has been a record number of police quitting their jobs. Also, nobody wants to work in the schools in these areas. There are plenty of this areas in Stockholm alone, never mind the whole country.
Edited by scott21: 23/3/2016 09:12:06 PM
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scott21 wrote:[youtube]jSbgxChQAhQ[/youtube]
This came up on my fb page. When they get attacked at 12.30, what do they expect?
Dont go to Rinkeby and start filming people.
There has been a record number of police quitting their jobs. Also, nobody wants to work in the schools in these areas. There are plenty of this areas in Stockholm alone, never mind the whole country.
Edited by scott21: 23/3/2016 09:12:06 PM 60 minutes is scum anyway. The only thing better than this would be Grimshaw herself getting attacked. I always laugh when news crews go and try and film junkies and obviously aggressive people and then complain when they get things thrown at them etc. What did you think was going to happen?
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quickflick wrote: People who just carry on hating Islamic people and fail to understand the root causes are do more to help the cause of terrorists than anybody.
The irony of this so called "progressive"stance is that its offensively western-centric and wilfully ignorant of events that occur around the world. Is Western policy in the middle east responsible for Islamic terrorism in Mali, Nigeria, Indonesia, Phillipines, China, India and Turkey? Does West policy explain the root cause of Islamic sectarianism? Fuck me sideways.
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sydneyfc1987 wrote:quickflick wrote: People who just carry on hating Islamic people and fail to understand the root causes are do more to help the cause of terrorists than anybody.
The irony of this so called "progressive"stance is that its offensively western-centric and wilfully ignorant of events that occur around the world. Is Western policy in the middle east responsible for Islamic terrorism in Mali, Nigeria, Indonesia, Phillipines, China, India and Turkey? Does West policy explain the root cause of Islamic sectarianism? Fuck me sideways. Most of these have now pledged their allegiance to IS and are now being funded by them. Half of those you listed don't even care about Islam. Abu Sayyef in the Philippines for instance is nothing more than a bandit group these days. They just pledged allegiance to get bulk cash and to connect to the Moro people in the southern Philippines.
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scott21 wrote:[youtube]jSbgxChQAhQ[/youtube]
This came up on my fb page. When they get attacked at 12.30, what do they expect?
Dont go to Rinkeby and start filming people.
There has been a record number of police quitting their jobs. Also, nobody wants to work in the schools in these areas. There are plenty of this areas in Stockholm alone, never mind the whole country.
Edited by scott21: 23/3/2016 09:12:06 PM for me, it when the police man say i don't think we (police) should go into the shop centre as it will set it off .....so maybe not the same
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