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adrtho wrote:another day in Baltic sea
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let hope Obama does the right thing, and let his Air forces move some F-22 Raptor, to Siauliai for 1 or 2 week holiday....this would drive the Russian fucking nuts
Edited by adrtho: 28/4/2016 03:44:57 AM :lol: 2 F-22 Raptor, land in Siauliai, Lithuania U.S. F-22s land in Lithuania in show of force amid Russia tensions http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-lithuania-nato-russia-idUKKCN0XO1O8Two of the U.S. Air Force's most advanced jets landed in Lithuania for the first time on Wednesday in a show of force and support for a region worried by Russian military manoeuvres. The Baltic states and Washington have been riled by acts by Russian warplanes in the region in recent weeks, including one making "simulated attack passes" near a U.S. warship and another passing within 50 feet of a U.S. reconnaissance plane. The two U.S. Air Force F-22 fighters landed in Romania earlier this week and F-22s last year visited Poland and Estonia, all counties concerned about Russian military ambitions. The jets spent 20 minutes making three low-flying passes with aerial acrobatics over Lithuania's Siauliai air base before landing to be met by President Dalia Grybauskaite. "Without singling out any neighbour, I would like to say that no one has any right to poke their noses into here," Grybauskaite told reporters. "This is a demonstration that the United States is honouring its commitments and is ready to protect our region with all the most modern measures." Lithuania and its Baltic neighbours Estonia and Latvia are former parts of the Soviet Union which today are members of NATO. After Russian intervention in Ukraine, they asked the military alliance to permanently deploy up to 5,000 troops as a deterrent, a request that is still under consideration. In April, Russia's envoy to NATO accused the United States of trying to put pressure on Moscow by sailing a warship near the Kaliningrad enclave, sandwiched between Poland and Lithuania. F-22s, the newest U.S. fighter planes, are almost impossible to detect on radar and are so advanced that the U.S. Congress has banned Lockheed Martin from selling them abroad. Edited by adrtho: 28/4/2016 03:46:15 AM
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:[quote=adrtho][quote=adrtho]another day in Baltic sea
from Moscow. I don't care what the Russian jets are doing, it's the US that are antagonising. you think it not antagonising when Russia simulated atomic bombing run on the UK or when Russia tells Denmark not to join Nato missile shield, then Russia does a simulated atomic bombing run on a Danish island in the Baltic sea when many of Denmark top politicians was on the island for a conference or every time Russia navy stop Sweden and Lithuania from laying electricity power cable between the two counters , because Russia wanted Lithuania to stay connect only to Russia i can go on, and on....everyone is fucking tired of Russia bullshit in Eastern Europe and Nother European Everyone was happy when US army sent the 2nd cavalry regiment on it's Dragoons drive around Eastern Europe, everyone feel so relief when the US said it move 3 armor brigade to Eastern Europe in 2017, and now i'm sure everyone happy to see F-22
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With adrtho's shoddy English and anti-Russian agenda it's becoming clear that he lives somewhere in an Eastern Bloc country of sorts. -PB
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Alternative for GermanyClashes outside German right-wing party congress, 400 arrested So... The Nationalist Socialism or Islam? I choose the Nationalist Socialists!
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Russian special forces are operating inside EU using tactical drones on NATO targets https://www.aldrimer.no/claims-russian-special-forces-are-operating-inside-estonia/The Estonian security service KAPO has informed NATO that it believes a number of tactical drones observed in Estonia over the past two years may have been operated by Russian special forces. According to NATO sources, the navigation systems aboard the drones have limited range. If the claim from KAPO can be substantiated, it would effectively mean that Russian special forces are already operating inside Estonian territory. By KJETIL STORMARK / kjetil@aldrimer.noThe dramatic report to NATO, using far more direct language than Estonian authorities have ever done publicly, was provided in connection with force-protection measures implemented for the NATO special-forces exercise Trident Jaguar from 20 to 27 April 2015. Two quiet weeks Soon after the exercise began, the tactical drones reappeared. About two weeks had then passed since the Estonian armed forces and KAPO (Kaitsepolitseiamet) had last observed drones. «The last two days, including the event on the 22 April, there were drone intrusions over the training area in the southeast of Ämari air base, as well (as) over Vovu, an Estonian army base in the south east of Estonia,» according to a NATO report. It then adds: «EST KAPO believes these incidents are Russian initiated – and even if there is no proof, they have a suspicion that RUS SOF elements may be involved.» SOF stands for «special operations forces». Fired 55 shots The report goes on to describe some of the prior observations, which were far more dramatic than previously known. «Some of the intrusions were during daylight hours and some were after dark. The intrusions were done by radio controlled quad copter drones with something that appeared to be a camera suspended under or above it,» said the report. According to the report, Estonian Defence Minister Sven Mikser formulated a standing order earlier this month to shoot down all drones appearing over the Ämari and Eametsa air bases, even though the government is aware that Russian special forces are probably responsible for them. «Shortly after the shootdown order was given, there was an intrusion over Ämari. SOF forces fired a total of 55 rifle rounds at the drone and they reported hits but not sufficient to bring the drone down. The drone successfully departed the area,» according to the report. No shots were fired, however, in connection with the drone observations made during the NATO special-forces exercise. Evasive answers Former defense minister Mikser declines to address directly whether he – as minister – formerly gave an order to open fire against drones over Estonian military bases in general and Ämari air base more specifically. «I mean it is a NATO air base, so we are not allowed to aircraft drones over marine bases, or any other Estonian military base that matter.» Asked directly by aldrimer.no whether a drone would therefore be shot down to avoid the drone to successfully penetrate military areas, he replied: «Well, if necessary, we take necessary measures to stop that from happening.» Nor would Mikser comment on the information obtained by aldrimer.no that Estonian authorities believe Russia and Russian special forces are responsible for the drone traffic. «Potentially, I mean, people or countries who are hostile to Estonia’s interests could use drones as platforms for surveillance. But I would comment on that when we have evidence that this has been the case,» says Mikser. Took picture of drone «One of the Estonian soldiers took a picture with a mobile (telephone) camera,» a NATO source says. «This picture was shown to NATO personnel. There is no doubt it was a tactical Spetsnaz drone.» Defence sources told the aldrimer.no that Russian special forces use only tactical drones, most of them very small. Until April 2015, NATO believes, Russia had used at least two different drone types in Estonia. Aldrimer.no has now learned that NATO is in possession of intelligence indicating that Russian Spetsnaz forces so far have operated four or five different types of tactical drones. «That they are using several different tactical drones is therefore not abnormal,» says a source. «Hope they get it next time» Estonia’s former head of intelligence, Eerik-Niiles Kross, dismisses the notion of a possible Russian command centre or technical base structure inside Estonia for operating Russian drones inside the NATO country. «They do not have a secret drone base in Estonia, no,» he says. But Kross refrained from commenting on the possibility of Russian special forces operating inside Estonia, with a command and/or technical back up structure located on the Russian side of the border. Confronted by aldrimer.no with the information that the then minister of defense in Estonia in April 2015 ordered the special forces to open fire against drones and that the special forces hit one of the drones but were not able to shoot it down, Kross responded: «Too bad – I hope next time we will.» He was asked to describe the aggressiveness of using drones that far into Estonian territory. «It’s worrisome,» Kross replies. «Again, it’s part of the bigger picture. It’s clearly not as risky as what they are doing with their fighters and their airplanes. Because they are really risking lives, in those almost close-to-collision incidents. Those violations of air space with a fighter are a lot more serious than a drone. But again, they are trying to do things to push the limits of what is allowed. And usually they do not stop before they are stopped.» «Psychological warfare» The former intelligence chief worries how far Russia will go in surveilling NATO personnel, and believes there are elements of psychological warfare at play. «It is possible that Russians hire some provocateurs,» says Kross. «But I would consider that more as a psychological attack rather than serious intelligence collection. Because they don’t really need that for any information. It’s more of these old KGB tactics to annoy you.» He asserts, however, that Russia has been tremendously focused on signals intelligence in Estonia, with particular focus on gathering data on NATO operations. Kross declines to comment on specific episodes, but says: «The more NATO does here, the more interest we see from the Russians, yes, that is correct.» Former defense minister Mikser expresses concern about the extent of Russian provocations, especially in the airspace over the Baltic Sea and in the form of marine traffic. He believes many other countries should share Estonia’s anxiety. «When it comes to those provocation in the air, on the Baltic Sea, then I think that this is something not limited to the Baltic countries,» he says. «It actually goes beyond the Baltic region as well when it comes to flights of (the) Russian strategic bomber fleet that have been resumed over the past few years and also to manoeuvres on the sea.» Edited by adrtho: 2/5/2016 04:16:59 AM
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Pakistan Origin Bus Driver's Son Sadiq Khan Becomes 1st Muslim London Mayor By AP Published: 07th May 2016 09:16 AM Last Updated: 07th May 2016 10:48 AM The city's new mayor appealed to voters as a true child of Britain's diverse and dynamic capital. Like many Londoners, he's the son of immigrants, born to parents who came to Britain from Pakistan. Like more than 1 million of the city's 8.6 million residents, he's Muslim. And on Friday the 45-year-old Labour Party politician became the first person of Islamic faith to lead Europe's largest city. Khan won despite a concerted, and controversial, campaign by Conservative rival Zac Goldsmith to taint him with ties to Islamic extremists, claiming Khan had shared a platform with a radical London imam. Khan, a former human rights lawyer, accused Goldsmith of trying to divide Londoners, and pointed out that he'd often shared platforms with people he disagreed with. His team unearthed photos of the imam meeting Goldsmith, too. Khan stands on the political center-left, and supported Labour policies including the legalization of gay marriage, a stance he said brought death threats. Before polling day, he urged Londoners to "choose hope over fear" and back him. Khan was born in London in 1970, one of eight children of a bus driver and a seamstress. He grew up in a three-bedroom public-housing apartment in south London, sharing a bedroom with brothers until he was in his early 20s. Khan attended a local state high school with a gritty reputation. "It was a tough school ... you had to be street-wise," he told the New Statesman magazine. He went on to study law at the University of North London before training as a solicitor. He became a partner in human rights law firm Christian Khan, and in 2005 was elected to Parliament for Tooting, the area where he grew up. Khan served as communities minister in the government of Prime Minister Gordon Brown before Labour lost power in 2010. His role included fostering cohesion in the years after the July 2005 London transit bombings, when al-Qaida-inspired suicide bombers killed 52 commuters. Married to lawyer Saadiya Ahmed — the couple has two daughters — Khan is a fan of boxing, and colleagues say he's a deft and powerful political operator. A member of the mainstream, social-democratic strand of Labour, he's more of a centrist than current leader Jeremy Corbyn, who was kept at a distance from Khan's mayoral campaign. Khan was quick to criticize Labour members who made anti-Israel remarks and urged Corbyn to be tougher in stamping out anti-Semitism. On the campaign trail, Khan said that London "gave me the helping hand I needed to fulfill my potential." He has spoken of his gratitude that his family had a secure, affordable home when he was growing up — something he fears younger Londoners are increasingly denied, in a city where market-rate rents and property prices have soared and local authorities build little social housing. He says he'll make housing his priority as mayor, building 50,000 new homes a year and giving locals "first dibs" on some new properties. Tony Travers, a local government expert at the London School of Economics, said Khan's policies were firmly in the political center, but his election was a "remarkable step" for the city. "The majority of people who voted for him will not have been Muslims," Travers said. "So that does suggest that despite all the challenges of being a Muslim in the West, a city like London sort of shrugs its shoulders and says, 'He's a mainstream politician.'" http://www.newindianexpress.com/world/Pakistan-Origin-Bus-Drivers-Son-Sadiq-Khan-Becomes-1st-Muslim-London-Mayor/2016/05/07/article3420558.ece
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Man seeks restraining order against God Haifa resident asks court to keep the Almighty away, claiming He is being mean to him By Stuart Winer May 4, 2016, 2:54 pm 168 An Israeli man has petitioned the Haifa Magistrate’s Court for a restraining order against God, claiming the Almighty has been particularly unkind to him. The initiator of the request, a resident of the northern port city, represented himself in court, the Walla news site reported on Wednesday. A protocol of the hearing noted that God did not turn up for the session, although it did not specify how the court determined the Omnipresent was not in fact there, as opposed to merely exercising the right to remain silent. The petitioner, who was not named in the report, noted that he had tried to obtain the restraining order from police for the past three years but that police had merely sent a patrol car to his home on 10 occasions. He argued that over a three-year period God, had exhibited a seriously negative attitude toward him, although details of just what divine mischief he had borne the brunt of were not mentioned in the report. Presiding Judge Ahsan Canaan denied the request, which he said was ludicrous, asserting the applicant needed help not from the court but rather from other sources. The report did not include a response on the outcome from any of the multitude of available spokespeople on behalf of the Lord. http://www.timesofisrael.com/man-seeks-restraining-order-against-god/
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:Joffa wrote:"The majority of people who voted for him will not have been Muslims," Travers said. "So that does suggest that despite all the challenges of being a Muslim in the West, a city like London sort of shrugs its shoulders and says, 'He's a mainstream politician.'"  Correlation does not imply causation. Also non-white =/= Muslim. Edited by salmonfc: 8/5/2016 12:59:20 PM
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Russian ,start of the undeclared war on Sweden http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-spies-are-reportedly-trying-to-stop-sweden-from-joining-nato-2016-5This year's SAPO report also asserts that members of Russia's civilian overseas intelligence service (SVR) and military intelligence service (GRU) have been active in carrying out an aggressive reconnaissance of civilian and military infrastructure. Last year's report identified 10 SVR and GRU officers among the 37 Russian diplomats in Sweden; this year's report notes an increase in contacts with Swedish radical right-wing organizations. This is all on top of a number of reports of Russian incursions into Swedish airspace and territorial waters over the last two years. The Russians' behavior falls under a particular style of conflict, credited to one General Valery Gerasimov, chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia, that has been called "hybrid warfare" or "New Generation Warfare" or even the "Gerasimov Doctrine." Call it what you will, but Gerasimov makes some pretty valid points: "In the 21st century we have seen a tendency toward blurring the lines between the states of war and peace. Wars are no longer declared, and, having begun, proceed according to an unfamiliar template." Edited by adrtho: 8/5/2016 05:45:16 PM
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Spies.... Pffft , it's no secret.
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scott21 wrote:Spies.... Pffft , it's no secret. Exactly! It's not as if we don't have our own spies looking at Russian facilities. :lol:
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Aikhme wrote:scott21 wrote:Spies.... Pffft , it's no secret. Exactly! It's not as if we don't have our own spies looking at Russian facilities. :lol: Im not sure. But Russia basically threatened Sweden over a year ago... officially. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-warns-sweden-it-will-face-military-action-if-it-joins-nato-10331397.htmlwhich lead to this http://www.ibtimes.com/scared-russia-sweden-poland-make-war-pact-2097513http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/638766/Sweden-war-Russia-chilling-leaked-documents-warn-world-hostilityThis cartoon is Sweden  Even the royal family own shares in weapons manufacturing. Edited by scott21: 8/5/2016 07:09:38 PM
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paulbagzFC wrote:With adrtho's shoddy English and anti-Russian agenda it's becoming clear that he lives somewhere in an Eastern Bloc country of sorts.
-PB He's from Belarus.
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tsf wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:With adrtho's shoddy English and anti-Russian agenda it's becoming clear that he lives somewhere in an Eastern Bloc country of sorts.
-PB He's from Belarus. His English improves by the day. His turn of phrase becomes more and more akin to that of a native-speaker. It wouldn't surprise me if he uses this forum as a mean of trying to become as fluent as possible. The forum's addictive if you love football and easily get dragged into knee-jerk arguments about lord knows what. P'raps adrtho has realised this will keep his attention and enable him to improve his English. If that's the case, fair play to him. I wish I had the energy to do similar with the languages I learn.
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tsf wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:With adrtho's shoddy English and anti-Russian agenda it's becoming clear that he lives somewhere in an Eastern Bloc country of sorts.
-PB He's from Belarus. i'am not from Belarus you Scottish twat :p i'm from Australia....
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this is the thing, Russia not just spying , they are active trying to destroy Sweden social system, it law, it Government to put it simply...Sweden been told to bend the knee to (Putin) Russia or face being destroy...this is now what has started
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Sweden 'prepared for war' as NATO reveals Putin carried out mock nuclear strike on nation http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/638766/Sweden-war-Russia-chilling-leaked-documents-warn-world-hostilityLeaked documents quoting Army chief Anders Brannstrom before a meeting with Swedish defense management said war with Russia could hit the country in a few years. The report claimed that Sweden should be ready for “armed battle against a qualified opponent” after more then 200 years of peace. The army is now making long-term plans for battle possibly between 2016-2020 and must be ready for a major opponent. Brannstrom added: “For us in the Army it is about building up all the force we can muster to enforce political decisions.” The army chief said “everyone in the army and all those who support us” have to unite to face a possible opposition. This is the first time in recent years that a leading representative of the armed services has said Sweden is on the verge of war.
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Quote:Swedish hip-hop artists build replica of ‘Police Academy’ gay bar at Putin’s summer cottage BY NICOLE HENSLEY NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Thursday, September 17, 2015, 11:14 AM A A A Pranksters dressed as characters frequenting a fictional gay bar in "Police Academy" show off their Blue Oyster creation at Putin's beach property in Finland.  Putin’s secret beach hideaway in Finland is now home to a rickety replica of the Blue Oyster, the fictional gay bar from “Police Academy.” A Swedish hip-hop duo erected the outdoor display in the Åland Islands over the weekend with the help of leather-clad construction workers to prod at Russia’s ban on so-called gay propaganda. “This is pure hooliganism,” Russian consul Mikhail Zubov told Agence France-Presse of the stunt. Frej Larsson and Simon Gärdenfors, both of Far & Son, are confident they will “never be taken alive” by Russian authorities for their beachfront prank paying tribute to the 1984 film. A stretch of land on a Finnish island is home to Russian President Vladimir Putin's beach house and now a replica of a "Police Academy" gay bar. “We expected a bit more vigorous action from Russia ... that they would immediately send the Scud missiles into the gay bar, but it seems they can’t keep up with Far & Son,” the group told Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet. “They are simply too cowardly. A photo of the shack-esque bar shows its construction at the edge of a forest outside the village of Saltvik. It’s framed by a string of colorful lights, but the image does not show if the bar is functional. Though the seaside property is located in a scattering of islands in the Baltic Sea, the plot is managed by the Russian Foreign Ministry. It was acquired by the Soviet Union in 1947 as part of a World War II peace treaty with Germany. The fictional Blue Oyster is a gay bar where leather-wearing bar goers dance with police officers in the 1984 "Police Academy." It’s not known if Putin has ever vacationed at the picturesque estate. Åland authorities described Far & Son’s Blue Oyster replica as a sanitation and trepassing violation, according to a Sept. 13 police report. Because Putin’s summer cottage is under Russian jurisdiction. A criminal investigation for possible trespassing charges will be handled by Russia. A conviction comes with a three-month prison sentence. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/swedish-hip-hop-duo-build-gay-bar-putin-summer-cottage-article-1.2364084
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Because Putin’s summer cottage is under Russian jurisdiction. A criminal investigation for possible trespassing charges will be handled by Russia.
why the fuck, has Finland let Putin have a summer cottage that under Russian jurisdiction??? WTF
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adrtho wrote:Because Putin’s summer cottage is under Russian jurisdiction. A criminal investigation for possible trespassing charges will be handled by Russia.
why the fuck, has Finland let Putin have a summer cottage that under Russian jurisdiction??? WTF Its on Åland, which used to be Russian. I had a girlfriend from there once and they are quite pro Russian. I dont know the full history, but im sure Russia got to keep some land when it was handed back. They also speak Swedish as a first language, so they are conflicted. Quote:Minister Niinistö: Finland needs to rethink its defence of Åland Defence Minister Jussi Niinistö says changes in the international geopolitical landscape such as the Ukraine crisis mean that Finland should reconsider its defence policy, particularly with regard to the Åland Islands -- a neutral, demilitarized zone by international agreement.
Puolustusministeri Jussi Niinistö SuomiAreena 2015 -tapahtumassa Porissa 17. heinäkuuta. Finland's Defence Minister Jussi Niinistö Image: Roni Rekomaa / Lehtikuva Finland's Minister of Defence Jussi Niinistö says Finland should reappraise its defence policy in light of increased military operations in the Baltic Sea.
"Finland must be prepared for any potential situations and defend all of its territory. We have to consider how we would provide official assistance to the Ålands, if such a situation should arise," said Niinistö.
In an interview with Lännen Media regional news service, the topic of Åland came up, and Defence Minister Jussi Niinistö of the Finns Party volunteered that he thinks Finland should be prepared for a situation in which Åland might be invaded by foreign soldiers.
"Several scenarios have been considered. War can start without an official announcement," revealed Niinistö, referring to Russia's annexation of Crimea in 2014.
The Minister justified his comments by saying that on the heels of the Ukraine crisis, security policy considerations have dramatically changed. For example, military traffic in the Baltic Sea by both Russia and NATO has increased.
Russia doesn't recognize Åland neutrality
Niinistö says the current status of the Åland Islands is clear from the Finnish perspective: in a crisis situation, the Ålands must be kept out of the conflict, in line with international agreements. But Russia's view is not consistent with this.
"The Russian Consulate monitors the demilitarisation of the Åland Islands, but it has not accepted its neutral status," he says.
Åland's politically neutral status guarantees that the autonomous island would remain untouched during a crisis situation.
An area designated with a neutral status is meant to be left in peace in the event of a crisis, while a region that is denoted as demilitarised means it contains no military presence, artillery or materiel.
Finland's Defence Minister says his comment should not be construed to mean that he feels the probability of a conflict has risen. He says that Sweden and Finland plan to enhance their cooperation, according to the new government programme.
"I don't exclude the possibility that Sweden and Finland would share a joint vision of matters associated with the Åland Islands in the future," says Niinistö. http://yle.fi/uutiset/minister_niinisto_finland_needs_to_rethink_its_defence_of_aland/8193007Quote:The Role of Sweden and Finland in NATO’s Defense of the Baltic States By Luke Coffey and Daniel Kochis ABOUT THE AUTHORS Luke Coffey Director, Douglas and Sarah Allison Center for Foreign Policy Douglas and Sarah Allison Center for Foreign and National Security Policy Daniel Kochis Research Associate The Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom Militarily speaking, the three Baltic States—Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania—are isolated from other NATO members. It would be extremely difficult, but not impossible, for NATO to respond to an incident in the Baltic region without the acquiescence of non-NATO Finland and Sweden. Russia knows this—and exploits this weakness to its advantage. The U.S. must plan for any contingency in the Baltic region, including one that sees Finland and Sweden refusing to acquiesce to a NATO request for support in a time of war. Non-NATO Sweden and Finland The countries in the Nordic region have direct and indirect roles in guaranteeing the security of the Baltic States. Historically, the Baltic States have had a very close relationship with the Nordic countries. Denmark and Norway have played an important role in developing Baltic military capabilities since the end of the Cold War, and Sweden and Finland, although not members of NATO also have a close security relationship with the Baltic States. There is much concern about U.S. and NATO dependence on non-NATO Sweden and Finland to mount a credible defense or liberation of the Baltic States. Sweden and Finland are important allies for the U.S. and a close partner of NATO. However, neither is obligated to come to the assistance of any NATO member in the event of an armed attack. Therefore, the U.S. must plan accordingly. While any NATO intervention in the region would be challenging without Swedish and Finnish support, this should not be overblown. The U.S. intervened and then sustained large-scale combat operations for more than a decade in Afghanistan—a landlocked Central Asian country several thousand miles away from the continental United States. The U.S. did this with questionable, and at times wavering, support from neighboring countries and with poor regional infrastructure. With the right planning and preparation the U.S. and NATO could do the same in the Baltics, even with Russia’s Anti-Access/Area-Denial (A2/AD) strategy in the region and even without Sweden or Finland’s support. Geography of the Nordic Region The Nordic region is also home to geographical spots of strategic importance for Baltic security. History has shown that most military operations in the Baltic region require access to what is today Swedish and Finnish air, sea, and land. For example, during the Crimean War (1853–1856) and the Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War (1918–1920), the Swedish fortress of Viapori (today known as Suomenlinna in Finland) and the Åland Islands played a crucial role. During both World Wars, the Skagerrak and Øresund Straits—both of which border Swedish waters and serve as a gateway to the Baltic Sea—were highly contested. During the Cold War, Denmark’s Bornholm Island was an area of contention between the Soviet Union and NATO. In the 21st century these considerations have not disappeared.  The Danish Straits consist of three channels connecting the Baltic Sea to the North Sea via the Kattegat and Skagerrak Seas. These straits are particularly important to the Baltic Sea nations as import and export routes. This is especially true for Russia, which has increasingly shipped its crude oil exports to Europe through Baltic ports. Overall, approximately 125,000 ships per year transit these straits. If the U.S. needed to intervene militarily in the Baltic States, access to the Danish Straits would be vital. It would be naïve in the extreme to think Russia did not factor the importance of these three islands and the Danish Straits into their Baltic Sea contingency planning—and it would be just as irresponsible for the U.S. not to do the same. Role of Kaliningrad Oblast Another matter to consider is the role of the Kaliningrad Oblast in regional security. Kaliningrad is a small Russian exclave along the Baltic Sea (slightly larger than Connecticut), bordering both Lithuania and Poland. Kaliningrad is part of Russia’s Western Military District, and approximately 25,000 Russian soldiers and security personnel are stationed there. It is home to Russia’s Baltic fleet, which consists of around 50 vessels, including submarines. Perhaps most important for Moscow is that Kaliningrad is the heart of Russia’s A2/AD strategy. Russia has the advanced S400 air defense system in Kaliningrad and has likely deployed Iskander missiles there. Iskander missiles can carry nuclear or conventional warheads and have a range of 250 miles, placing Riga, Vilnius, and Warsaw within their reach. Russia also has facilities for storage of tactical nuclear weapons at Kaliningrad. (Whether nuclear weapons are presently there is a matter of much debate.) Russia is modernizing runways at its Chernyakhovsk and Donskoye air bases in Kaliningrad, providing Russia with nearby bases from which to fly near NATO airspace. Many of the aerial incidents that cause NATO planes from Baltic Air Policing to scramble involve Russian planes flying from or to bases in Kaliningrad. Preparing for All Eventualities Without a doubt, Russia’s A2/AD coverage over the Baltic Region, coupled with Finland and Sweden’s reluctance to join NATO, makes defending the three Baltic States a challenge. Even under these difficult circumstances, if correct polices are pursued, the U.S. can ensure that it can live up to its treaty obligations under NATO. The U.S. should: Work with the Nordic countries to improve relations with the Baltics. Historically, the Baltic States have had a very close relationship with the Nordic countries. Good U.S. relations with the Nordic countries will mean closer relations with the Baltics. Although not members of NATO, Sweden and Finland have a close security relationship with the Baltic States. Encourage Finland and Sweden to join NATO. Ultimately, the Swedish and Finnish populations will decide whether to join NATO, but the U.S. should pursue a policy that encourages NATO membership for these two Nordic countries. Until they join NATO, they will not benefit from the Alliance’s security guarantee. Prepare contingency operations to defend the Baltics that do not include support from Finland and Sweden. The U.S. should plan and rehearse defense of the Baltic States without the cooperation of Finland and Sweden. However unlikely this might be, until Finland and Sweden become full members of NATO, it would be irresponsible for U.S. military planners not to plan for this scenario. This training should include scenarios in which Russian forces capture the Åland Islands and Gotland. Prepare to reinforce Europe quickly. During the Cold War, the U.S. conducted an annual military exercise called Operation Reforger (Return of Forces to Germany). Operation Reforger was designed to prove that the U.S. could move conventional military forces rapidly from the U.S. to Germany in the event of a war with the Soviet Union. The U.S. should consider holding a similar exercise focused on defending the Baltic States. Factor Kaliningrad into NATO’s Baltic region contingency planning. The U.S. needs to work with its NATO allies to develop a strategy dealing with the Russian A2/AD capabilities in Kaliningrad. In particular, this requires close cooperation and planning with Poland. No credible defense of the Baltics can be carried out without neutralizing the threat from Kaliningrad. Sending the Right Messages Moscow should not interpret Sweden and Finland’s non-NATO status as a green light to intervene in the Baltic States because NATO cannot come to their defense. Conversely, until they decide to become full-fledged members of NATO, Stockholm and Helsinki should not expect the Alliance to come automatically to their assistance if they are attacked by Russia, and NATO members should not give that impression. NATO needs to plan for all eventualities in the Baltics—otherwise Russia will take advantage of the situation. http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2016/04/the-role-of-sweden-and-finland-in-natos-defense-of-the-baltic-states
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adrtho
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with the Baltic States, they knew this day would come again... back in 2004, it was far more important for the Baltic States to Join NATO then to join EU or Euro doller
you have to give it to them, the Baltic States took there one tiny little chance to get out of USSR control in 1990, and then they made sure they was in NATO , when everyone else was saying there no need for NATO any more
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lol didn't even realise Kalingrad was there. -PB
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adrtho wrote:tsf wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:With adrtho's shoddy English and anti-Russian agenda it's becoming clear that he lives somewhere in an Eastern Bloc country of sorts.
-PB He's from Belarus. i'am not from Belarus you Scottish twat :p i'm from Australia.... I am not scottish in the slightest. I am from the balkans ffs
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tsf wrote:adrtho wrote:tsf wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:With adrtho's shoddy English and anti-Russian agenda it's becoming clear that he lives somewhere in an Eastern Bloc country of sorts.
-PB He's from Belarus. i'am not from Belarus you Scottish twat :p i'm from Australia.... I am not scottish in the slightest. I am from the balkans ffs oh, i'am sorry then, no body like to be called Scottish :p
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paulbagzFC wrote:lol didn't even realise Kalingrad was there.
-PB yep, sitting there like a big fucking road side bomb waiting to go off
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adrtho wrote:tsf wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:With adrtho's shoddy English and anti-Russian agenda it's becoming clear that he lives somewhere in an Eastern Bloc country of sorts.
-PB He's from Belarus. i'am not from Belarus you Scottish twat :p i'm from Australia.... There is no such thing as an Australian Ethnicity. Unless you're Aboriginal. Are you an Aboriginal? Edited by Aikhme: 9/5/2016 11:15:38 AM
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Aikhme wrote:adrtho wrote:tsf wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:With adrtho's shoddy English and anti-Russian agenda it's becoming clear that he lives somewhere in an Eastern Bloc country of sorts.
-PB He's from Belarus. i'am not from Belarus you Scottish twat :p i'm from Australia.... There is no such thing as an Australian Ethnicity. Unless you're Aboriginal. Are you an Aboriginal? Edited by Aikhme: 9/5/2016 11:15:38 AM says who? i have only one football team (Australia)
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adrtho wrote:tsf wrote:adrtho wrote:tsf wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:With adrtho's shoddy English and anti-Russian agenda it's becoming clear that he lives somewhere in an Eastern Bloc country of sorts.
-PB He's from Belarus. i'am not from Belarus you Scottish twat :p i'm from Australia.... I am not scottish in the slightest. I am from the balkans ffs oh, i'am sorry then, no body like to be called Scottish :p Scotland is an awesome place. Almost as good as Russia :d
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