Can't believe the shortsidedness of people in this game.

Palm Beach to represent the Gold Coast is the biggest joke. They dickheads don't even have a Facebook page. They're a suburb. If this APL is to ever work it needs to be done a lot better than it has been done so far.

FAIL.

I don't understand how you can make that statement especially as it appears that it is firmly based in the past. The current administration of the FFV is firmly supportive of the FFA agenda and responds to the FFA's dictates. While the FFV is no longer beholden to the Clubs but its new constituancy which is the Standing Committees and the Zone representatives. Who are all pro-FFA/Lowy the only exception might be the Men's standing Committee which is a bit old school.

The Elite Club Licencing program has been set out by the FFA which all States are adopting so I cannot see how this is not a National approach, while the adoption of the MyFootball Club system is another initiative of the FFA's quickly brought into State systems.

And exactly what do you want to clean up?

Can't believe the shortsidedness of people in this game.

Palm Beach to represent the Gold Coast is the biggest joke. They dickheads don't even have a Facebook page. They're a suburb. If this APL is to ever work it needs to be done a lot better than it has been done so far.

FAIL.

I know mate but it's still football and it's our top flight team now, come down and give it a go. I'd be a hypocrite if I said otherwise after GCU.

For one, the shambles that is the state system. Very disjointed and doesn't have a clear path. You may as well name it the Melbourne Premier League. Despite what many fools have said there is absolutely nothing wrong with the clubs themselves. We don't need/want franchise clubs replacing the history we have in this game.

Edited by TheSelectFew: 29/12/2012 11:24:30 AM

What's complicated about it? Clubs - new, old, metro or country - start at the bottom and work their way up. Melbourne Premier League? Yallourn won it. Morwell Falcons won it. North Geelong won it. If you don't want to be part of the main FFV system, you play in the comp that suits you best.

For one, the shambles that is the state system. Very disjointed and doesn't have a clear path. You may as well name it the Melbourne Premier League. Despite what many fools have said there is absolutely nothing wrong with the clubs themselves. We don't need/want franchise clubs replacing the history we have in this game.

Edited by TheSelectFew: 29/12/2012 11:24:30 AM

Its not that disjointed it is a Vertical Competition you start at the bottom and work your way up the leagues to the VPL and then you win that you're No. 1 of course if your club is no good then you can go down just as fast.

Our Code and competition is more "Democratic" than what AFL or any other code in this state none of which had "Rural" teams involved, so I don't know what you mean by "Disjointed"?

It doesn't seem like a clear path. Is there any particular reason we don't see teams from Wadonga etc? Obviously theyare shit and what not but they don't seem to feature in the lower leagues.

You answered your own question. No team, regional or metro, has a divine right to be successful. You could even ask, where is the representation in the upper tiers from Melbourne's eastern suburbs? Where are Croydon, Ringwood, Mooroolbark? Why have the northern and western suburbs dominated the VPL since 1977? Why can't the Mornington Peninsula clubs get their act together?

I understand but I don't really see them on the general map. Where are they in terms of the league in general?

And if they aren't represented then a representative team should be made.

Rip a flare or 6. No one will judge you.o:)

I'm not sure I understand your question. They're in separate, region based competitions, which are not linked to the main FFV competition, which is no different to the structure of just about every other sport in Victoria.



What's stopping them?

Yes!! Different regional leagues that aren't aligned. They should have the chance to join through a play off system or something. Not just in the state cup.

What's stopping them is the present day costs of starting a team up from scratch. Not as easy as it was with Melbourne knights, South Melbourne etc.

Assuming that clubs back then went from 0 to 100 in a short space of time is a mistake. South had what were in effect several false starts going back about a decade at least. Knights not much different. They started from the bottom and worked their way up. Most clubs and players in the main FFV system - not just regional ones - will eventually hit a natural ceiling of what they can achieve.

Assuming that clubs back then went from 0 to 100 in a short space of time is a mistake. South had what were in effect several false starts going back about a decade at least. Knights not much different. They started from the bottom and worked their way up. Most clubs and players in the main FFV system - not just regional ones - will eventually hit a natural ceiling of what they can achieve.

Not with the current model thats in play at present, changes need to be made before Knights commit to it.

The current transfer model is one that comes to mind, where a club bring up a junior nurture him and then have him stolen by a HAL club without any appropriate compensation,if an HAL club takes a player from a lower division for 3,000 and sell him the next season for 500,000 why shouldnt the lower division club have 40% of the sale? Thats 1.

2 - they dont want any player over 25 years of age playing in the comp, that needs to be changed

there are about 9 others that need changing before any clubs other then Sth Melb would need changing before these clubs commit.

There's nothing to stop clubs from regional areas from joining the Victorian League, they have opted in the past not to do so in order to save money on travelling, and they have competed in their own local leagues.

If they want to join a state wide league now, there's nothing to stop them coming in at the bottom and playing their way up. Why should they be gifted a place in the top division that other clubs have had to earn over the years?

Assuming the VPL is to remain at its current number of teams, why should some sides suffer relegation (other than through bad results) in order to make way for clubs who haven't been interested in earning the right to play at the top level?

The current transfer model is one that comes to mind, where a club bring up a junior nurture him and then have him stolen by a HAL club without any appropriate compensation,if an HAL club takes a player from a lower division for 3,000 and sell him the next season for 500,000 why shouldnt the lower division club have 40% of the sale? Thats 1.

2 - they dont want any player over 25 years of age playing in the comp, that needs to be changed

there are about 9 others that need changing before any clubs other then Sth Melb would need changing before these clubs commit.

Re read the regs.

FFS that would kill clubs not playing in the A-League. I hope they resolve that. If this is the case with the Queensland clubs then they better brace themselves.


Also, who do you prefer. Heart or Knights?