FFV will host a series of forums around Victoria over the next seven weeks to garner feedback and allay concerns regarding the proposed changes.

Details?

Love the idea of bringing in regional teams.

Whats with the negativity, Rendell said they are waiting for feedback before they enter the next stage of development. Am I the only one excited about the developments in the structure of football nation-wide? Cannot wait for the FFA Cup and State League finals games to be shown on FTA, something thats looks closer then ever.

Rendell and the FFV tried shoving the summer zonal league crap down clubs throats a few years ago. Senior clubs didn't want a bar of it and the junior summer zonal comps have been pretty much a disaster. They are trying again to screw over traditional/community clubs under this new guise. The current system isn't perfect but why the fuck completely dismantle it. Any decent junior under any structure will end up at MV or MH so why waste time and money basically re-inventing the wheel.
Soccer in regional Victoria is mostly social and hasn't the money and resources to be in any elite comp. AFL dominates in these areas.
Talented players from there will also filter through the system to bigger and better things.
This is just another giant waste of money by those rascist ego maniacs at the FFV. Instead of working with current clubs to maximise resources and to better the game they are actively working to run them into the ground with fairyland type proposals. They are hopeless clowns at FFV land.

Would be a dream if it felt like the FFV was working with the clubs rather than against them. It's a bit scary when one of their biggest income sources is fines.

Edited by krisskrash: 8/8/2012 08:28:18 PM

We will continue to run the State Knockout Cup unless the FFA Cup comes in and it provides a similar opportunity

Not sure about regional teams being enforced. Maybe get one quality team from geelong, ballarat and bendigo possibly gippsland. But its even been a while since Geelong had a team in the VPL.

As for the top 24 teams in the existing league system, there's already North Geelong Warriors in State League Div 1, and then there's Ballarat Red Devils and Morwell Pegasus from Gippsland jut in the next level below in State 2, so it's not as if they're far off just by merit alone.

FFV plan to restructure top-level soccer
Ante Jukic | August 8th, 2012

Pictures: Soccer, August 4, 2012
A NEW Geelong team could be formed to join a revamped elite Victorian soccer competition by 2014.

Football Federation of Victoria unveiled plans this week that would completely restructure soccer in the state at the top level.


Geelong's only State League 1 club, North Geelong, will be informed of the plans on Monday, while there will be a Geelong-specific forum for clubs including Geelong SC, Geelong Rangers, Corio, Surf Coast and Bell Park in a fortnight.


It is believed the FFV disclosed plans at a private meeting with Victorian Premier League and Women's Premier League clubs on Monday night to form a 20-plus team competition, without promotion and relegation.

The competition would include six teams from regional areas.


The Geelong Advertiser believes regional teams from Geelong, Ballarat, Bendigo, Shepparton, Albury-Wodonga and Gippsland will compete, with a maximum of two teams from each of the FFV's eight metropolitan zones.


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"Junior fees of between 700 - 1000 bucks? there goes the growth of the game. Goodbye football hello soccer! Always backward thinkers soccer administrators!!"
Bruce

Successful consortiums will be required to have a men's and women's team, with a minimum of five teams for various age groups for each gender.


They will need to apply for licences to enter the competition. It is believed the yearly licence fee will be $50,000, with an estimated yearly running cost of up to $500,000.


The fee per junior player is tipped to run between $700 and $1000.


Geelong's current soccer clubs remain unsure what the future holds for them, particularly without a promotion and relegation system in place.


North Geelong is on the verge of gaining promotion into the VPL, which could be scrapped under the new plans by the end of next year.


"We're sort of thinking, is there any point in getting promoted?" North Geelong president Daniel Desa said last night.


"We'd still like to get promoted for our fans and, given our history, it would be good to play in the Victorian Premier League again because of who we are."


The FFV's move came in response to Football Federation Australia's national competition review.


Other state federations around the country are also in the process of implementing their own strategic plans.


Other VPL clubs have quietly voiced concerns over logistics, and a potential skyrocket in cost.


http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2012/08/08/343015_local_sports.html

Victorian Premier League clubs fear for future under radical new Football Federation Victoria plan
The oft-rocky relationship between the state's governing body and the VPL clubs is set to again be tested by the former's new strategic plan
07/08/2012 10:40:00 AM
By Ante Jukic
Victorian Premier League clubs are fearing for their futures past season 2013, after Football Federation Victoria put forward its strategic plan in response to the National Competition Review on Monday.

At a meeting closed to all except representatives from VPL and Victorian Women's Premier League clubs, FFV plans were unveiled for a 20-plus-team competition, without promotion and relegation and including six teams from Victoria's regional areas.

Goal.com understands clubs from Geelong, Ballarat, Bendigo, Shepparton, Albury/Wodonga and Gippsland will compete, with a maximum of two teams from each of the FFV's eight metropolitan zones.

Each club will be required to field sides in men's, women's and junior competitions.

While it means the much-maligned Victorian Champions League will meet its demise, clubs hoping for an NCR-accredited licence to participate in the new competition would need to implement a substantial overhaul to even be considered.

Club costs are predicted to spiral up to $500,000, while a player point system will also be introduced.

The changes are a result of the findings of Football Federation Australia's NCR, released in May. Other state federations around the country are in the process of implementing their own strategic plans.

Possibly in fear of reprimand from the FFV, who they predominantly believe are forcing clubs to spend beyond their means to be eligible for what is believed a three- to five-year licence, team officials refused to go on the record after the meeting.

One of the few to do so, Dandenong Thunder president Merson Azizi was non-committal on what the strategic plan means long-term for the current VPL leaders.

But he feared the changes could lead to a logistical headache that could compromise the quality of football.

"I think it's too early to say anything at this stage. I think it could work, but it's too early to tell. We need to sit down and discuss everything at the club," he told Goal.com.

"I think we'll be struggling to get quality women's teams across all ages, and that the quality of football will definitely go down. Because when you have a mix of good local and overseas players, teams can be stronger, instead of with a bunch of boys."

The clubs, however, are believed to be concerned about a lack of two-way dialogue, and view the FFV as dismissive of their identities and future development.

It is understood VPL club officials and fans have long feared for their team's future demise at the hands of the state's governing body, with the revelations from Monday's meeting doing little to allay their concerns.

On top of a yearly licence fee of $50,000, a potential sticking point for VPL and WPL clubs is the estimated yearly running cost of up to $500,000, with a fee per junior player tipped to run between $700 and $1000.

Along with these potential difficulties for VPL clubs is the framework of a player points system, where clubs will need to sit under a 200-point limit.

Players accumulate points over the age of 25 and with playing experience at higher levels.

It is understood that none of the VPL clubs currently meet this criteria, with an estimated average of 290 points.

The Melbourne Knights are believed to be the VPL club closest to adhering to the cap at the 205-215 point mark, while Dandenong Thunder and South Melbourne reportedly sit closer to 350.

Goal.com understands that, in response, one VPL club has contacted players union Professional Footballers Australia over a potential restriction of trade.

It is expected that a joint meeting of VPL clubs will take place within the week, with more reaction to the FFV's strategic plan expected in the coming days.

The 'forced' entry of regional teams reduces opportunities for those from highly populated areas.

100 decent players in central Melbourne would be competing for the same number of places as 20 average players in Morwell. Because players will most likely have to be selected from the club's area - the 85 unlucky lads in central will end up forced to playing 3rd or 4th tier football rather than replacing the lesser players in Morwell.

One year on, those who missed last time will have a higher points value associated with them so clubs will be less likely to give them a chance (ie/ you keep the average 'known quantity' player rather than letting him go and replacing him with outside talent).

Long story short - working on 15 man squads, you're better off being the 15th best player in Morwell (pop 13,000) than the 16th best in City of Melbourne (pop 99,000).

so you are against eeo and affirmative action ?

Can any one tell me under the new Player Point System with the NCR how many points would Del Piero be worth to a new Elite Club?

He'd be worth a whopping +40 points.

10 points as a standard player.
+12 points for being 37 (1 point for each year he is over 25).
+10 points for being a visa player.
+8 points for being a new signing.




Edited by Benjamin: 7/9/2012 05:08:20 PM

The 'forced' entry of regional teams reduces opportunities for those from highly populated areas.

100 decent players in central Melbourne would be competing for the same number of places as 20 average players in Morwell. Because players will most likely have to be selected from the club's area - the 85 unlucky lads in central will end up forced to playing 3rd or 4th tier football rather than replacing the lesser players in Morwell.

One year on, those who missed last time will have a higher points value associated with them so clubs will be less likely to give them a chance (ie/ you keep the average 'known quantity' player rather than letting him go and replacing him with outside talent).

Long story short - working on 15 man squads, you're better off being the 15th best player in Morwell (pop 13,000) than the 16th best in City of Melbourne (pop 99,000).

The other way of looking at it is that the 85 players not selected in central melbourne are in fact the lucky ones as they get to play each other rather than travel for hours to play average players in Morwell.
Who will end up the better player?

Thats what my club is banking on being in the community competitions.