Judge...who is judging....i am just asking a very sane question, that is....why as people do we need to take drugs or alcohol.....is because we are insecure, or weak, or in need of happiness, or we are depressed....just a question, i am not judging anyone

same question tabacco is a drug

Batfink - Is the question rhetorical? Or are you naive on the matter?

They don't need to. I just have to edit it. :lol:





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Wow, they have smoked weed their whole lives and they look like complete junkies :?

was a simple question.....i am sitting here having a glass of red wine, and up until 18 months ago pulled cones every day.....35 years of it.....now i have emphasemia due to pulling cones all my life.....

just saying it has NO health issues associated with SMOKING pot......

this is the reality.......

oh yeah....sat there and watched all the cheech and chong....and listened to all the hippie music...dark side of the moon, kansas.....steely dan and the lot ripped to the eyeballs....so when you have racked up 35 years come and tell me what you THINK you know about pot.....

LOL...your such a tosser.....try working in a road crew and a band and not pull cones and drink every night.......

you will come unstuck just as easy as anybody pal....you are obnoxious and self righteousness and think you infallible....was once like that myself....

and to think when i was 18 there was no drug education, no informatiom........

i can say loads of people like you do dope because its fashionable.........and then your viewed as being cool.......



Edited by batfink: 13/9/2012 07:00:48 PM

Batfink, why are you judging other people for the mistakes YOU made? Only republicans and assholes do that.

not judging anyone......just asked a simple question....why do people need drugs and alcohol....just put it up there for general comments....like is it becasue serotonin is released from the brain, is it due to poor self esteem....that's all, thought some of you might be able to contribute.....

Obviously from your comments you and MVFC are the ones getting defensive and cast dispersions....not me......just asked a basic question that neither of you can contribute....no worries suit yourself.....no skin off my nose

First thing i know about you is you are a condescending hypocrite.......who jumps to conclusions....

Is it to hard for you to answer a question???? It wasn't personal or directed at anyone,
and you assume alot, that i abused dope how did you get to that conclusion???

So kindly fuck off yourself wanker.........:cool:

No, you're being a douchebag about it. The accusation that someone 'needs' a substance implies addiction and social ineptitude. Nobody here NEEDS alcohol or marijuana to have a good time.

NO you are being precious about it....it was a very wide general question.....and thats is ...WHY do we take alcohol or drugs....simple...i do both...as guilty as the next....just a simple question....it has become second nature and part of society...but why??? what started it??? how did it come about???

noy having a go at anyone....you might take it that way ...but it isn't and wsn't intended to judge or preach to anyone.....

Why do we take them? Because we enjoy the different feeling it gives us from our usually mundane world.

It's come to prevalence because we live in such work-oriented cultures.

i see....well my life isnt mundane...i agree i used to like the feeling it gave me.....

personally when i was young i was an excellent sportsman and was very fit strong and agressive........i used to like having a cone because it relaxed me and calmed my aggression......and later when i was doing live gigs it would help with the nerves, anyone who has played gigs will tell you it all happens in what seems like minutes....like a 45 min set will feel like 2 minutes...and its all over.....

The problem with that is weed destroying your perception of time could totally fuck your sense of rhythm :lol:

batfinks band days...

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ah shit....the secret is out:shock: :shock: :shock:


but i still have the pink tu tu at home for keepsake....:d

Haha. I love that scene. :lol:

Really wish I was posting in this thread with some recent memories of having done it

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I'm holding out till after my final exam in Japanese language....its only elementary level but still....keeping hiragana and vocab in your head and getting buzzed aint compatible. :-({|=
Sadly!
And i was due for a tolerance break anyways...have to try and stick with vapor when i do, i had drifted back to smoking joints again...


Edited by blacka: 9/4/2013 05:02:20 PM

Currently enduring a tolerance break as we speak. Actually just had one, then discovered it hadn't really worked. Probably need to try longer this time :lol:

Haha that is annoying. The best reset i find is exercise...getting baked after a long bike ride always sends me to another dimension!

Try vapor when u get back on the horse ...i find the t-break works better the lower down the bong-joint-vaporizer scale u go...i dont do bongs at all anymore, its a bit too overindulgent for regular use imo. Plus they churn through the weed and the efficiency/thrift freak in me cant handle it lol...

Ever used a vaporizer?

They do give a different effect to smoking...healthier though and at different temperatures u get a broader range of effects. Plus u can roll the spent weed as joints provided it isnt over vaped. Or use it for baked goodies.

This forum is a great resource for vapists starting out :cool:

I recommend the SSV myself, has a 220v model for Oz power compatibility!

Yeah vaping is something u need to try after a dry spell...its nowhere near as buzzy as smoking...hence the trap i sometimes fall back into! :D

And there is something therapeutic about rolling a joint as well...hard to give it up entirely...

Been on a bit of a break for a couple of weeks half TB motivated and half supply motivated, moved houses recently and have been struggling to get a contact other than getting lucky on nights out. I usually roll though, especially now that I'm the only one of my housemates that smokes, I quite enjoy the whole lead up process of rolling and would prefer to just sit back and enjoy a good spliff rather than pack a bowl, especially if I'm having a heavy session, it's much better having a few joints ready to burn rather than having to keep packing a bong.

Completely forgot about 420 day though, at this stage that's the day we're looking at having our house warming, so it looks like I'll have to do something for it then :lol:

Nah I've never tried it. I'm not even really sure what it is. I'll check that forum out later when I'm not at work :lol:

I like joints but I've always been pretty much a bong man through and through. I find it much more economical than joints. I'm not sure what happens where you are, but here in Victoria we generally chop it up with tobacco, makes it last for ages. I've been told by friends this is almost exclusively a Victorian thing.

Also - I dont know how to roll :oops:

Thats a west sydney and central coast thing too ...i dont smoke tobaccy so not myself, i've known people who will get sick at the thought of smoking straight which i find weird.

I once had to explain to a fellow non tobacco smoker that the reason they were craving weed when they stopped was that they were mixing tobacco...and duh...they were now addicted to the tobacco. Some people.... :lol:

Rolling is easy if u cut yourself some slack the first few times, dont try for fatties... ;)

You only need a little bit of tobacco to keep it burning. People who spin 50-50 or whatever are dicks.