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			    paladisious wrote:Lakey64 wrote:grazorblade wrote:Doesnt look like brilliante is starting.... Oh well, can't start them all. It's only pre-season, we are getting our hopes up a lot. Is he on bench? Hopefully he is a second half sub. Fiorentina didn't tweet their bench, they're losing 2-0 already in the first half, maybe they should chuck him on! Quote:http://www.violanation.com/2014/7/31/5953719/Fiorentina-lose-to-PalmeirasFiorentina (4-1-3-2): Neto 5; Tomović 5.5, Hegazi 5.5, Savić 5, Pasqual 6.5; Bakić 4 (Piccini 6); Mati Fernandez 5 (Vecino 5), Lazzari 4.5 (Vargas 5.5); Joaquin 6 (Pizarro 6.5); Iličić 6 (Rossi 7), Babacar 6.5 If you play Brillante...you win...simple Edited by socceroo_06: 31/7/2014 02:00:58 PM                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| azzaMVFC 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    TheSelectFew wrote:Hoping the next friendly Ange throws Ikon and all these Euro players on for kicks and gigs and watch them run rings around Asians. It's gonna be a farce this Asian Cup if we get on top of all this. Absolutely this must be done. I just hope these guys continue to get a lot of game time come the start of the season. We all know Ange's philosphy around players playing consistently for their clubs before getting picked for the NT, but I agree, these friendlies against UAE, Qatar, these types, we must be giving the kids a run.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| TheSelectFew 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    azzaMVFC wrote:TheSelectFew wrote:Hoping the next friendly Ange throws Ikon and all these Euro players on for kicks and gigs and watch them run rings around Asians. It's gonna be a farce this Asian Cup if we get on top of all this. Absolutely this must be done. I just hope these guys continue to get a lot of game time come the start of the season. We all know Ange's philosphy around players playing consistently for their clubs before getting picked for the NT, but I agree, these friendlies against UAE, Qatar, these types, we must be giving the kids a run. The thought of stretching these countries anuses gets me seriously hard. Do it ange. Don't be an Osiek.                
			    				
			                    
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Lakey64 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    socceroo_06 wrote:paladisious wrote:Lakey64 wrote:grazorblade wrote:Doesnt look like brilliante is starting.... Oh well, can't start them all. It's only pre-season, we are getting our hopes up a lot. Is he on bench? Hopefully he is a second half sub. Fiorentina didn't tweet their bench, they're losing 2-0 already in the first half, maybe they should chuck him on! Quote:http://www.violanation.com/2014/7/31/5953719/Fiorentina-lose-to-PalmeirasFiorentina (4-1-3-2): Neto 5; Tomović 5.5, Hegazi 5.5, Savić 5, Pasqual 6.5; Bakić 4 (Piccini 6); Mati Fernandez 5 (Vecino 5), Lazzari 4.5 (Vargas 5.5); Joaquin 6 (Pizarro 6.5); Iličić 6 (Rossi 7), Babacar 6.5 If you play Brillante...you win...simple Edited by socceroo_06: 31/7/2014 02:00:58 PM If you play Brillante, you will play brilliant. Simple as that.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Higashi 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    Quote:http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/voetbal/feyenoord/22916248/__Wilkshire_naar_Feyenoord__.htmlWilkshire to Feyenoord
 After Khalid Boulahrouz Feyenoord has again won a defender. The 32-year-old Luke Wilkshire comes from Dinamo Moscow and play next season in Rotterdam and has an option for an additional season in his contract.
 
 Wilkshire is an old friend of Feyenoord coach Fred Rutten. The Australian came from 2006 to 2008 for FC Twente. During that period, Rutten was head coach in Enschede.
 
 The transfer is free Wilkshire eighty international caps in Australia. At the last World Cup veteran was not there. Wilkshire was called at the pre-selection, but did not. Took the last 23
 
 Except Boulahrouz, goalkeeper Warner Hahn and Wilkshire Bilal Basacikoglu also makes the move to Feyenoord. The attacker is 3.5 million euros from SC Heerenveen. Left earlier Stefan de Vrij, Daryl Janmaat, Graziano Pelle and Bruno Martins Indi.
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| paladisious 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    Higashi wrote:Quote:http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/voetbal/feyenoord/22916248/__Wilkshire_naar_Feyenoord__.htmlWilkshire to Feyenoord
 After Khalid Boulahrouz Feyenoord has again won a defender. The 32-year-old Luke Wilkshire comes from Dinamo Moscow and play next season in Rotterdam and has an option for an additional season in his contract.
 
 Wilkshire is an old friend of Feyenoord coach Fred Rutten. The Australian came from 2006 to 2008 for FC Twente. During that period, Rutten was head coach in Enschede.
 
 The transfer is free Wilkshire eighty international caps in Australia. At the last World Cup veteran was not there. Wilkshire was called at the pre-selection, but did not. Took the last 23
 
 Except Boulahrouz, goalkeeper Warner Hahn and Wilkshire Bilal Basacikoglu also makes the move to Feyenoord. The attacker is 3.5 million euros from SC Heerenveen. Left earlier Stefan de Vrij, Daryl Janmaat, Graziano Pelle and Bruno Martins Indi.
 Did not see that coming, great move! If he plays and plays well there there's no way Ange can ignore that.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Roar #1 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    paladisious wrote:Higashi wrote:Quote:http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/voetbal/feyenoord/22916248/__Wilkshire_naar_Feyenoord__.htmlWilkshire to Feyenoord
 After Khalid Boulahrouz Feyenoord has again won a defender. The 32-year-old Luke Wilkshire comes from Dinamo Moscow and play next season in Rotterdam and has an option for an additional season in his contract.
 
 Wilkshire is an old friend of Feyenoord coach Fred Rutten. The Australian came from 2006 to 2008 for FC Twente. During that period, Rutten was head coach in Enschede.
 
 The transfer is free Wilkshire eighty international caps in Australia. At the last World Cup veteran was not there. Wilkshire was called at the pre-selection, but did not. Took the last 23
 
 Except Boulahrouz, goalkeeper Warner Hahn and Wilkshire Bilal Basacikoglu also makes the move to Feyenoord. The attacker is 3.5 million euros from SC Heerenveen. Left earlier Stefan de Vrij, Daryl Janmaat, Graziano Pelle and Bruno Martins Indi.
 Did not see that coming, great move! If he plays and plays well there there's no way Ange can ignore that. Ange will ignore him regardless of how he plays at club. I think we have seen the last of Wilkshire in the green and gold                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| playmaker11 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			      By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Ikonomidis' agent has said he will not go out on loan but will shuttle between the first team and the youth side Quote:http://www.calciomercato.com/news/ag-fifa-savini-lazio-occhio-a-baniulis-cavanda-vi-spiego-117687Finally a few words on Australian midfielder Christopher Oikonomidis, which also served as the training with the first team orders Pioli . 'I really like the leadership, has the characteristics of the modern player: physical and a good basic technique - remember Savini -. Via borrow? No, I will stay at Lazio and will shuttle between the first team and Spring, to avoid going to places with little space '.               
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    I know Feyenoord lost 3 starting XI defenders after they played for the Dutch at the world cup but jeez....wilkshire? seriously goes against the way they play. They sold Janmaat and brought in two 32yo right backs who cant run to save their lives?                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Huh, and he really does  have the number 2 shirt, it wasn't just someone being too hasty on wikipedia.  Looks like he's there as a first choice player.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Ryan starting for Brugge in Europa League at home to Brondby. They're up 3:0 on 67min. Should be enough to go through if they keep Brondby from scoring.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Aston Villa's U21's thrashed non-league Rushall Olympic 2-7. Thomas Strain and Jordan Lyden both started. Lyden copped a knock and was forced off after 12 minutes, though.
 Strain with at least two goals from what I can see, he came off around the hour mark. No sign of his younger brother Ryan. although he is probably mostly in the U18's.
 
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			    I wonder if babalj got time today                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    This post is now irrelevant, so here's a video of a hamster eating a tiny burrito:
 [youtube]JOCtdw9FG-s[/youtube]
 
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			    Quote:http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-albion-begin-talks-7537790West Bromwich Albion have opened talks with Dutch club Heracles Almelo over the signing of Jason Davidson.
 The Baggies have been keen on the left-back for a while but held back from their pursuit due to a dispute between the Australia international and Heracles.
 
 The Eredivisie club were claiming that Davidson was still their player, stating that he had activated a 12-month clause earlier this season.
 
 But the 23-year-old insisted that was not the case - that he was technically out of contract and free to pursue a free transfer elsewhere.
 
 Davidson even opted to snub pre-season training with the club to try to push through a move with Albion.
 
 Albion have now sought to end the stalemate between the player and Heracles, with the two clubs holding discussions earlier on Wednesday.
 
 The Baggies will be expected to pay a small fee for the defender.
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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					| Link2588 
                                 
                    
                   
                    
           
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			    jlm8695 wrote:Quote:http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-albion-begin-talks-7537790West Bromwich Albion have opened talks with Dutch club Heracles Almelo over the signing of Jason Davidson.
 The Baggies have been keen on the left-back for a while but held back from their pursuit due to a dispute between the Australia international and Heracles.
 
 The Eredivisie club were claiming that Davidson was still their player, stating that he had activated a 12-month clause earlier this season.
 
 But the 23-year-old insisted that was not the case - that he was technically out of contract and free to pursue a free transfer elsewhere.
 
 Davidson even opted to snub pre-season training with the club to try to push through a move with Albion.
 
 Albion have now sought to end the stalemate between the player and Heracles, with the two clubs holding discussions earlier on Wednesday.
 
 The Baggies will be expected to pay a small fee for the defender.
 Awesome news  Davo(EPL)-Herd(EPL)-Sano(Eredvise)-Franjic(Russia) on paper it looks good atleast im sure it will be Spira in for Herd come Asian Cup time. Herd seems to be having a strong pre season though                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Not sure how much game time he will get seeing as they just signed Pocognoli. Will have to wait and see.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Link2588 wrote:jlm8695 wrote:Quote:http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/west-brom-albion-begin-talks-7537790West Bromwich Albion have opened talks with Dutch club Heracles Almelo over the signing of Jason Davidson.
 The Baggies have been keen on the left-back for a while but held back from their pursuit due to a dispute between the Australia international and Heracles.
 
 The Eredivisie club were claiming that Davidson was still their player, stating that he had activated a 12-month clause earlier this season.
 
 But the 23-year-old insisted that was not the case - that he was technically out of contract and free to pursue a free transfer elsewhere.
 
 Davidson even opted to snub pre-season training with the club to try to push through a move with Albion.
 
 Albion have now sought to end the stalemate between the player and Heracles, with the two clubs holding discussions earlier on Wednesday.
 
 The Baggies will be expected to pay a small fee for the defender.
 Awesome news  Davo(EPL)-Herd(EPL)-Sano(Eredvise)-Franjic(Russia) on paper it looks good atleast im sure it will be Spira in for Herd come Asian Cup time. Herd seems to be having a strong pre season though  has the franjic deal gone through ??                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    I'm still a bit sceptical when it comes to Herd. A month back I heard he was transfer listed, now he's playing most minutes of Villa's pre-season friendlies. Has the manager come out and spoken about him pubically at all? Would be interested to know the managers thoughts.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    grazorblade wrote:I wonder if babalj got time today XI AZ vs Hoffenheim: Esteban; Johansson, Gouweleeuw, Wuytens, Poulsen; Gudelj, Ortiz, Henriksen; Berghuis, Babalj, Hupperts. 75 minutes. Lost 3-0 (0-0 HT)                
			    				
			     By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    seems like he has a chance for some game time this season. Come January we might have a few strikers playing in decent leagues.                
			    				
			    
                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    azzaMVFC wrote:I'm still a bit sceptical when it comes to Herd. A month back I heard he was transfer listed, now he's playing most minutes of Villa's pre-season friendlies. Has the manager come out and spoken about him pubically at all? Would be interested to know the managers thoughts. Its looks as if Lowton will leave us, as he is being mooted to being going to borough, meaning that at right back we will have Bacuna and Hutton, as a villa fan Id have Herd over both them any day. In terms of pre-season he has been used as a centre back and a number 6, where he would be dow the pecking order                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    apillay12 wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:I'm still a bit sceptical when it comes to Herd. A month back I heard he was transfer listed, now he's playing most minutes of Villa's pre-season friendlies. Has the manager come out and spoken about him pubically at all? Would be interested to know the managers thoughts. Its looks as if Lowton will leave us, as he is being mooted to being going to borough, meaning that at right back we will have Bacuna and Hutton, as a villa fan Id have Herd over both them any day. In terms of pre-season he has been used as a centre back and a number 6, where he would be dow the pecking order EPL to championship is a strange one assume you mean Middlesborough ? Will be interesting for Herd either way.                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    Link2588 wrote:apillay12 wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:I'm still a bit sceptical when it comes to Herd. A month back I heard he was transfer listed, now he's playing most minutes of Villa's pre-season friendlies. Has the manager come out and spoken about him pubically at all? Would be interested to know the managers thoughts. Its looks as if Lowton will leave us, as he is being mooted to being going to borough, meaning that at right back we will have Bacuna and Hutton, as a villa fan Id have Herd over both them any day. In terms of pre-season he has been used as a centre back and a number 6, where he would be dow the pecking order EPL to championship is a strange one assume you mean Middlesborough ? Will be interesting for Herd either way. Yep lowton could be loaned to middlesborough is what Ive read                
			    				
			                        
                            
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			     and an interview with Langerak on a bus. I don't speak any German but it's easy to pick up on things, doesn't sound like anything too riveting.https://www.bvbtotal.de/player/list/latest/6326995/1 By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    apillay12 wrote:Link2588 wrote:apillay12 wrote:azzaMVFC wrote:I'm still a bit sceptical when it comes to Herd. A month back I heard he was transfer listed, now he's playing most minutes of Villa's pre-season friendlies. Has the manager come out and spoken about him pubically at all? Would be interested to know the managers thoughts. Its looks as if Lowton will leave us, as he is being mooted to being going to borough, meaning that at right back we will have Bacuna and Hutton, as a villa fan Id have Herd over both them any day. In terms of pre-season he has been used as a centre back and a number 6, where he would be dow the pecking order EPL to championship is a strange one assume you mean Middlesborough ? Will be interesting for Herd either way. Yep lowton could be loaned to middlesborough is what Ive read Hmm interesting and BTW Hutton has been on the out-side as part of the infamous 'Bomb Squad' of over-paid, under-performing stars who have been frozen out of the team for a period. Apparently the Bomb Squadders have been given a second chance by Lambert, but they've been trying to shift Hutton (Who was a McLeish signing :/), Bent and co out of the club for quite a while now, so hopefully somebody does take Hutton off Villa's hands atleast, as he was never appropriate for Villa and their ambitions to begin with, another failure of a signing from McLeish era. It's terrific news to hear Herd is back, full-force on the comeback trail! =d> If he's been given a new lease on life by new-gen manager Lambert, who's known to give the younger gen a shot, then it can only be really positive. He always showed alot of promise at his best, including some stand-out performances at RB? Versatile Herd has been employed at DM/CM, CB and even LB too - but seems his game is definitely best suited to RB, given his weakness in distribution and strengths physically, including stamina, work-rate, aerial ability, defensive capability - closing down, marking etc..? This is from the 2-3 times I've seen him and from much of what I've read. With the right instruction, under a capable tactician, employed more regularly in the same/preferred position, we might surely seem him finally thrive towards his potential? He's not the greatest talent, but he has the attributes to be an affective enough RB at that level!  And FTR we can have more faith too, as it was no less a tactician who game him his initial elevation and chance/debut, than Gerard Houllier! So if the most esteemed of Villa's recent generation of managers saw something in him, then surely Lambert may?!Edited by GloryPerth: 1/8/2014 11:03:48 PM                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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			    paladisious wrote:Huh, and he really does  have the number 2 shirt, it wasn't just someone being too hasty on wikipedia.  Looks like he's there as a first choice player. Surely they don't see him as first-choice right-back though? At his age range and diminishing pace, as evident with the NT, he seems more suited to shifting back to his 'native' central midfield? He's always been a 'converted' RB anyway, and in his earlier days with Middlesborough Reserves etc... he was a central midfielder. I wonder how he'd go as a DM? Or would he be too prone to being caught behind and fouling? :-k  moofa wrote:Ikonomidis' agent has said he will not go out on loan but will shuttle between the first team and the youth side Quote:http://www.calciomercato.com/news/ag-fifa-savini-lazio-occhio-a-baniulis-cavanda-vi-spiego-117687Finally a few words on Australian midfielder Christopher Oikonomidis, which also served as the training with the first team orders Pioli . 'I really like the leadership, has the characteristics of the modern player: physical and a good basic technique - remember Savini -. Via borrow? No, I will stay at Lazio and will shuttle between the first team and Spring, to avoid going to places with little space '. Very interesting moofa - I guess Ikonomidis means he wants to avoid being caught between a rock and a hard place, aka one of those disasterous loan (Or Co-Ownership - now scrapped?) moves like James Troisi and others, where they loan out only to sit on the bench for their loan clubs too? :-k  Perhaps he and his circle feel he's best continuing to develop via first-team training and development till he's more physically ready for senior level at Lazio, via loan or otherwise? :-k Edited by GloryPerth: 1/8/2014 11:13:03 PM                
                      
                            
                  
                           
                 
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