From other articles on Reno his agent/family are seemingly pushing for him to play for Italy anyway.

Paul Okon should be looking at these guys for the U20s.

I have been saying for years the QAS and The AIS are a joke. To get into one you must first make it past the nepotism in Zones and then the tyranny of distance means a player in the city will be selected over a player from a regional area, then the AIS will only take you from the state institutes and then okon will only select you from the AIS. System is a fail.
Qas was great under de roo but not anymore. Players in the QAS could not make NPL teams. You would think NPL players would be eligible for selection into the U20s soccerroos

Even if the players mentioned in the articles had AIS or A-league offers I honestly doubt any one of them would've given up on their overseas moves in favour of staying in Australia. At the end of the day its just another excuse. Some people just don't care who they represent or don't want to represent Australia. Happened in the past and will continue to happen in the future.

yep your right most 17yr old boys cant wait to go 1/2 way around the world to a foreign country, live with strangers cook and clean for themselves and leave their families and friends. NFI

True but its also a good thing, they can grow more quickly, whilst getting used to more responsibilities. Its a sacrifice you have to make sometimes, just ask Harry Kewell or Tim Cahill.

That's right 100%, but its not easy on anyone and anyone who thinks it is has no idea.

Ignoring whether I actually wrote anything about it being hard to live in a foreign land or not. Do you truly believe those kids would've given up on a move to AC Milan, Schalke, etc? Do you honestly think them being overseas is a great reason for wanting to represent a country other than Australia? If not, I'd appreciate it if you didn't take my post out of context and take out your angst towards the AIS against me.

On a side note:

Also, Andy Rose was back in the starting line up for Seattle Sounders FC and scored a brace from two set pieces.
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I am replying to your post not angst against AIS. They would stay longer in Australia if there was equal opportunities. (and they should)I think the lack of fair and equal opportunity that forces them overseas hardens them against Australian Football.
As for the system of development, identification, education and the pathway for talented players in Australia it is useless.

Yeah. If you truly believe those kids in the article (which I'm specifically referring to) don't want to be overseas, I disagree. If you really think my posts suggest I want to debate about development pathways, read it again.

The article specifically states the boys tried to get into Australian institutions thereby adding weight to my point that the players would not go overseas so young if the opportunities were fair and just. As for debating the development pathway the core of the article clearly is that the pathway is a fail.

My post is about players who want to represent other countries making up excuses. It has nothing to do with the efficacy of the AIS. This is exactly why I said you're taking me out of context and wrongfully directing your angst against the AIS towards me.

I think people sometimes forget that in regards to certain players who go over at a very young age A League national youth league sides are not allowed to sign players under the age of 16. Piscopo was 14 when he went over and so was a couple of years away from being looked at by ALeague clubs.

Some also just choose different career paths. Degenek for instance didn't fall through the net, he was part of the system throughout his early and mid teens but when he left the AIS decided to head overseas rather than stay here.

We also have to remember that GISS is a business, the make money from getting kids to train with them in the hope of making it in europe. Just look at their website, full of stories of people signing with this and that club and the ability to develop kids for professional careers. Of course they are going to be critical f the system, they need people to slip through the nets.

In the end yes players slip though the net, but often it's just people taking different career paths. Individuals will also always have the choice of who to play for, its not as easy as saying 'well he's eligible why isn't he playing for us'. Impressionable young kids will also have a lot of external forces pushing them in certain directions. First generation australians will also have very. Strong senses of dual nationality despite having lived for a long time or being born in Australia. It's just the reality we face being an immigrant nation, we'll get some we'll lose some.

There may be more opportunities overseas for some of these talented young kids that get overlooked in Australia however that doesn't mean you abandon your country to play for another national team when the time comes. The only players that deserve to put on a Socceroos jersey are the ones who put Australia first even if they weren't put first in Australia. If you need to decide alligences then we don't want you because your heart should always be with the Socceroos otherwise they don't need you.

I am proudly Australian even though my family has European herritage and it wouldn't even be a question to whether I would choose the green and gold over another country.

wrong thread

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Oh man those socks itch like a bastard

Is he injured already?

Rogic not included in Celtic's Europa league squad and since he is born in '92 he doesn't qualify for list B. Let's hope someone offers him a loan spot.

Amini also out of Dortmund's and evn though I don't think he will play in the champions league he does qualify for list B which is easier to add to

Brillante also left out of Fiorentina's squad

Is quite surprising.....

Jovanovic starting, up 4-1 at HT. Season wraps up at the end of October, I wonder if any A-League clubs could get him on loan?
Played 90 minutes, finished 6-2.

Not much to see but worth a watch anyway
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Aston Villa U21 midfielder Jordan Lyden just signed a two year extension.

Awesome stuff by Rose. I really like him.
IMO he's a much better Partaluu.

Awesome that Burgess has declared for Aus too.

No its just cosmetic.

AZ 2-1 Mechelen a few days ago in a friendly. Babalj came on in the 62nd minute.

http://www.az.nl/nieuws/samenvatting-az-kv-mechelen/1

Babalj working into consideration? In any case he seems over his injury, hope he has a good year.

How did I miss this? :lol: Must've been a great sunday sesh going on in EG's pub. :lol:

Much better is an exaggeration, but he's far more mobile than Erik despite being a similar size.
I really think he'd make a good impression in. Australia. He's pushing into a first team that would absolutely wipe the A-League.

Hyuga Tanner starting and playing 68 minutes in Blackburn Rovers U21's win against PNE U21's in the Lancashire Senior Cup . Tanner with a "thunderbolt" hitting the woodwork according to the club's twitter. They'll face the winners of Accrington Stanley vs Manchester United in the quarter finals.