The Aussies Abroad Thread


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Pretty good news so far. Any rumours about a Jedinak departure? PNE tomorrow so hopefully Wright will play.
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paladisious wrote:
adrtho wrote:
paladisious wrote:
adrtho wrote:
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eldorado wrote:
Adrhto's insistence that everything can be quantified and therefore accurately measured against everything else, and his insistence that this is some kind of objective truth, is the issue that I struggle with.

Football is a sport fulls of subjectively valued qualitative factors. In qualitative fields, statistics only illustrate and illuminate arguments, they are not the basis of the argument...


in a Universal of things Football is a simple thing, that easy to quantify...just because we might believe football is special (hard) doesn't make it so


"When I hear any man talk of an unalterable law, the only effect it produces upon me is to convince me that he is an unalterable fool." Sydney Smith


:lol: nice quote...for 17th Century man, this might be true, but when computer power double every two year, what might seem unalterable is just double or two away


I should think belief in unalterable laws, especially when used to engender conflict, is even worse in an age of new methods of sourcing and comprehending information than Sydney Smith's time, the 19th century.


you really want this discussion in here? :lol:


Indeed, I do not. Your stubborn reliance solely on elo ratings to start bitter, unprovoked feuds against posters that in many cases don't even disagree with you which spoil the forum's atmosphere do not need further discussion. Consider me guilty for getting sucked in to yet another one of your derailing attempts.

Now that the new season has started, however, I would like to see you man up to my challenge of starting a thread to help other forumers make millions off sports betting just like you claim to have done.


fight start because other posters are stubborn and can't accept someone else's opinion ..

ClubElo has a web site , all can see how accurate is or isn't ,,i'm happen to talk about Elo as it's no longer profitable to use as a betting tool...as for tips. sorry no can do ...but as Elo is far above what most of you know or understand, you don't need move above this
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Sir Mark Schwarzer on bench for Leicester. Elder appears to be at Leicester too and has been put in the U21. What's better? Leicester U21 or Mansfield Town? Leicester should have very good resources behind him.
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adrtho wrote:
paladisious wrote:
adrtho wrote:
paladisious wrote:
adrtho wrote:
paladisious wrote:
adrtho wrote:
eldorado wrote:
Adrhto's insistence that everything can be quantified and therefore accurately measured against everything else, and his insistence that this is some kind of objective truth, is the issue that I struggle with.

Football is a sport fulls of subjectively valued qualitative factors. In qualitative fields, statistics only illustrate and illuminate arguments, they are not the basis of the argument...


in a Universal of things Football is a simple thing, that easy to quantify...just because we might believe football is special (hard) doesn't make it so


"When I hear any man talk of an unalterable law, the only effect it produces upon me is to convince me that he is an unalterable fool." Sydney Smith


:lol: nice quote...for 17th Century man, this might be true, but when computer power double every two year, what might seem unalterable is just double or two away


I should think belief in unalterable laws, especially when used to engender conflict, is even worse in an age of new methods of sourcing and comprehending information than Sydney Smith's time, the 19th century.


you really want this discussion in here? :lol:


Indeed, I do not. Your stubborn reliance solely on elo ratings to start bitter, unprovoked feuds against posters that in many cases don't even disagree with you which spoil the forum's atmosphere do not need further discussion. Consider me guilty for getting sucked in to yet another one of your derailing attempts.

Now that the new season has started, however, I would like to see you man up to my challenge of starting a thread to help other forumers make millions off sports betting just like you claim to have done.


fight start because other posters are stubborn and can't accept someone else's opinion ..

ClubElo has a web site , all can see how accurate is or isn't ,,i'm happen to talk about Elo as it's no longer profitable to use as a betting tool...as for tips. sorry no can do ...but as Elo is far above what most of you know or understand, you don't need move above this


Let's start an Aussies abroad punter's club :lol:
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GloryPerth wrote:
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Taggart not in squad - https://twitter.com/FulhamFC/status/629957984832122880

Edited by support: 8/8/2015 09:15:03 PM


and no Burgess to...


Isn't Burgess injured? I might be confused though - as Taggart just injured/re-injured himself recently? Quite the blow for Taggart - he'll miss season start apparently. :/


I know Taggart is injured...i don't know about Burgess
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adrtho wrote:
paladisious wrote:
adrtho wrote:
paladisious wrote:
adrtho wrote:
paladisious wrote:
adrtho wrote:
eldorado wrote:
Adrhto's insistence that everything can be quantified and therefore accurately measured against everything else, and his insistence that this is some kind of objective truth, is the issue that I struggle with.

Football is a sport fulls of subjectively valued qualitative factors. In qualitative fields, statistics only illustrate and illuminate arguments, they are not the basis of the argument...


in a Universal of things Football is a simple thing, that easy to quantify...just because we might believe football is special (hard) doesn't make it so


"When I hear any man talk of an unalterable law, the only effect it produces upon me is to convince me that he is an unalterable fool." Sydney Smith


:lol: nice quote...for 17th Century man, this might be true, but when computer power double every two year, what might seem unalterable is just double or two away


I should think belief in unalterable laws, especially when used to engender conflict, is even worse in an age of new methods of sourcing and comprehending information than Sydney Smith's time, the 19th century.


you really want this discussion in here? :lol:


Indeed, I do not. Your stubborn reliance solely on elo ratings to start bitter, unprovoked feuds against posters that in many cases don't even disagree with you which spoil the forum's atmosphere do not need further discussion. Consider me guilty for getting sucked in to yet another one of your derailing attempts.

Now that the new season has started, however, I would like to see you man up to my challenge of starting a thread to help other forumers make millions off sports betting just like you claim to have done.


fight start because other posters are stubborn and can't accept someone else's opinion ..


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Irvine , McGowan and McDonald all starting.

Shame about Federici.

By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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johnszasz wrote:
Pretty good news so far. Any rumours about a Jedinak departure? PNE tomorrow so hopefully Wright will play.

Jedinak has 2 years left on his contract. I doubt CP could sell him anywhere and get close to an even return except Asia.
He will stick it out on the bench I think. Personally I can't see him playing in Russia if we qualify. He is already slow and can't pass.
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adrtho wrote:
fight start because other posters are stubborn and can't accept someone else's opinion ..

Most posters 100% happy to converse with people with other opinions/loyalties than their own, but you seem to get really butthurt and go on long winded denunciatory and belligerent rants when other people do, however. To paraphrase another poster, people object to your conduct, rather than your content.

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ClubElo has a web site , all can see how accurate is or isn't ,,i'm happen to talk about Elo as it's no longer profitable to use as a betting tool...

Since when? You claimed that elo was your tool for making millions just this offseason, and you were all over elo just a few days ago, happy to claim "copyright" on the system in the Australian Club Rankings thread I stickied as if you were the first to discover the system. What changed since then?

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as for tips. sorry no can do ...but as Elo is far above what most of you know or understand, you don't need move above this

Doesn't seem right to me, I'm sure that the majority of posters could understand it. Sounds more likely that you haven't made those millions at all in fact and are struggling for ways to cover for your lie.

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Would be great if this little cat fight with adthro (who is a tard) could be had in another thread.. just saying. Aussies Abroad is one of the few non shit ones left..

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Holland starting v Schalke
Luongo starting
Kruse on the bench

Burgess played for the U21s yesterday. Not up to first team standards yet.




Great to see kruse back in the squad regularly
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Is langerak starting?


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yeah exactly don't start that shit in here please
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Laverkusen? TSV 1890?


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Toffee's_or_Roar wrote:
Would be great if this little cat fight with adthro (who is a tard) could be had in another thread.. just saying. Aussies Abroad is one of the few non shit ones left..

I'd encourage anyone with feeback like this or any other to lodge it in the relevant thread or the feeback subforum. It will be taken seriously by the mods and management. We need your voice to make a difference for the better.
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paladisious wrote:
adrtho wrote:
fight start because other posters are stubborn and can't accept someone else's opinion ..

Most posters 100% happy to converse with people with other opinions/loyalties than their own, but you seem to get really butthurt and go on long winded denunciatory and belligerent rants when other people do, however. To paraphrase another poster, people object to your conduct, rather than your content.

adrtho wrote:
ClubElo has a web site , all can see how accurate is or isn't ,,i'm happen to talk about Elo as it's no longer profitable to use as a betting tool...

Since when? You claimed that elo was your tool for making millions just this offseason, and you were all over elo just a few days ago, happy to claim "copyright" on the system in the Australian Club Rankings thread I stickied as if you were the first to discover the system. What changed since then?

adrtho wrote:
as for tips. sorry no can do ...but as Elo is far above what most of you know or understand, you don't need move above this

Doesn't seem right to me, I'm sure that the majority of posters could understand it. Sounds more likely that you haven't made those millions at all in fact and are struggling for ways to cover for your lie.

Edited by paladisious: 8/8/2015 11:43:49 PM

This is almost the sort of public execution that I dream of for Adrtho.
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Stuttgart play in 4 hours 1860 in 2. Langerak won't feature.

Duisburg down 3:0 at break.

Edited by Johnszasz: 9/8/2015 12:17:50 AM
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Can we start by answering my questions? ;)


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Any streams out there for the QPR game?
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paladisious wrote:
adrtho wrote:
fight start because other posters are stubborn and can't accept someone else's opinion ..

Most posters 100% happy to converse with people with other opinions/loyalties than their own, but you seem to get really butthurt and go on long winded denunciatory and belligerent rants when other people do, however. To paraphrase another poster, people object to your conduct, rather than your content.

adrtho wrote:
ClubElo has a web site , all can see how accurate is or isn't ,,i'm happen to talk about Elo as it's no longer profitable to use as a betting tool...

Since when? You claimed that elo was your tool for making millions just this offseason, and you were all over elo just a few days ago, happy to claim "copyright" on the system in the Australian Club Rankings thread I stickied as if you were the first to discover the system. What changed since then?

adrtho wrote:
as for tips. sorry no can do ...but as Elo is far above what most of you know or understand, you don't need move above this

Doesn't seem right to me, I'm sure that the majority of posters could understand it. Sounds more likely that you haven't made those millions at all in fact and are struggling for ways to cover for your lie.

Edited by paladisious: 8/8/2015 11:43:49 PM


you're breaking your own rule on here in this topic

ok 442 isn't just for poster on here, there far many more people who read 442 forum to learn about football, Australian football ...most of the 442 posters are hard core old football type of supports , who will never change their opinion as long as they feel they are part of the majority, some poster will change their opinion but remain silent because the fear of being wrong...i'am more then happy to continuously inform reader that the prevailing view on 442 chat forum might be wrong, and here is why it might be wrong

Elo..for a man who just point out to me , that i should have use google to know Sydney Smith was around 18th and 19th century and not the 17th...then i believe you could equally use google to find out about Elo....and since when does one have to invent something to profit from it....Elo type tool was use 10 years (plus) ago by bookmakers and pro punters ,it is far more sophisticated today....big professional gambling groups make $100 plus million betting on football in Asia, nobody will release info today ..

as for my clams of doing or not doing ...this is a chat forum, i could be full of shit or not..but statistically speaking, it far harder for people to lie in a email (or any on other chat web tools) then in person

and your accusation that i was " happy to claim "copyright" on the system in the Australian Club Rankings is pitiful effort on your part .


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johnszasz wrote:
Stuttgart play in 4 hours 1860 in 2. Langerak won't feature.

Duisburg down 3:0 at break.

Edited by Johnszasz: 9/8/2015 12:17:50 AM


Kruse is on the bench.


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TheSelectFew wrote:
johnszasz wrote:
Stuttgart play in 4 hours 1860 in 2. Langerak won't feature.

Duisburg down 3:0 at break.

Edited by Johnszasz: 9/8/2015 12:17:50 AM


Kruse is on the bench.


We know that already
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support wrote:
Any streams out there for the QPR game?

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lukerobinho wrote:
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johnszasz wrote:
Stuttgart play in 4 hours 1860 in 2. Langerak won't feature.

Duisburg down 3:0 at break.

Edited by Johnszasz: 9/8/2015 12:17:50 AM


Kruse is on the bench.


We know that already


Trolling back through the last couple of posts, excuse me if i missed the specific posts...


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TheSelectFew wrote:
johnszasz wrote:
Stuttgart play in 4 hours 1860 in 2. Langerak won't feature.

Duisburg down 3:0 at break.

Edited by Johnszasz: 9/8/2015 12:17:50 AM


Kruse is on the bench.

Leverkusen up 1:0 at break. If they can score more he might get subbed on.

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Duisburg are getting a football lesson, down to 10 men as well. The good news is it isn't Holland.


Valencia v Roma later too.

Edited by playmaker11: 9/8/2015 12:29:42 AM

By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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playmaker11 wrote:
Duisburg are getting a football lesson, down to 10 men as well. The good news is it isn't Holland.


Valencia v Roma later too.

Edited by playmaker11: 9/8/2015 12:29:42 AM


Holland appears exhausted. It's very hot here right now. He probably isn't so fit but we'll see him do better in Buli2.

Leverkusen up by 2 so maybe Kruse will get minutes.
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So far Davidson has been beaten twice; found good space and shanked a cross, and won a corner.
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playmaker11 wrote:
Duisburg are getting a football lesson, down to 10 men as well. The good news is it isn't Holland.


Valencia v Roma later too.

Edited by playmaker11: 9/8/2015 12:29:42 AM


yep, Duisburg going to be bottom of bul 2 , they going to get a lot of football lesson over this season
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Kruse is on (y)

and immediately wins a penalty, straight red for he defender

Edited by playmaker11: 9/8/2015 01:03:59 AM

By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.

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