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Peaty wrote:
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do you know what top dollar is at NEC?


Do you? How about you research into it and actually have a valid argument before arguing with my opinon that Jones won't be signing with Perth Glory.


and i guess that reply means you have no idea what top dollar is at NEC


http://www.persianfootball.com/forums/showthread.php?112949-Alireza-Jahanbakhsh-N.E.C.-Nijmegen-2014-2015/page149
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Behind the scenes the management of the club and other parties are busy with the �selection�. A number of players will leave and therefore new players will have to be signed. N.E.C. is focusing on the Dutch, Belgian and Scandinavian market.
General manager Bart van Ingen has indicated in rather vague words that the club is considering to propose new contractual provisions to Alireza Jahanbakhsh. Most likely this means that the club is in the process of thinking about offering an extension of the term of the existing contract in combination with a higher salary for the additional years. A complication is that under the rules for non-EU players N.E.C. must offer a salary amounting to at least 150% of average compensation in the Eredivisie. For illustration purposes, for the season 2014/2015 average gross compensation in Eredivisie amounts to euro 276,000 and 150% of the average therefore amounts to euro 414,000. For younger players (18 and 19 years old), the percentage is 75, for older players (20 and 20+) the percentage is 150.
The amount mentioned � euro 414,000 - is higher than the maximum compensation in N.E.C.�s �salary house�. This salary house including salary caps has just recently � at the beginning of the season - been created by management.


Sounds like they would be offering a little bit more than Perth would under the cap.

Do you want me to provide a source that I know the A-league has a salary cap as well?


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The amount mentioned � euro 414,000 - is higher than the maximum compensation in N.E.C.�s �salary house�. This salary house including salary caps has just recently � at the beginning of the season - been created by management.


that says, €414,000 is higher then the maximum salary paid by N.E.C......I think N.E.C. total player wagers would be around €2m
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adrtho wrote:

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The amount mentioned � euro 414,000 - is higher than the maximum compensation in N.E.C.�s �salary house�. This salary house including salary caps has just recently � at the beginning of the season - been created by management.


that says, €414,000 is higher then the maximum salary paid by N.E.C......I think N.E.C. total player wagers would be around €2m


I was referring to €276,000, but yeah I didn't really read the last bit.

My point is, Jones won't be at Perth, and if he is, I'm wrong, you're right. If he isn't at Perth though, you can go eat some humble pie.
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Peaty wrote:
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The amount mentioned � euro 414,000 - is higher than the maximum compensation in N.E.C.�s �salary house�. This salary house including salary caps has just recently � at the beginning of the season - been created by management.


that says, €414,000 is higher then the maximum salary paid by N.E.C......I think N.E.C. total player wagers would be around €2m


I was referring to €276,000, but yeah I didn't really read the last bit.

My point is, Jones won't be at Perth, and if he is, I'm wrong, you're right. If he isn't at Perth though, you can go eat some humble pie.


i don't have a view on where he will go...i just wanted to know what top dollar was at NEC

the €276,000 average wage in Eredivisie, is effective by Ajax and PSV.....when you look at club like NEC, there average wage is (maybe) €80,000-€100,000...when Dordrecht playing in Eredivisie last year, there top wage was €30,000 (a year)

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Unfortunuately I can still see this knob's posts when people quote him. As per usual - completely clueless.

25 players in the first team squad for NEC, and their total wages would be €2m?

You reckon that the average salary per player is €80000? Give me a break :lol:

Buysse and Kane alone are both on more than €7k a week. Not even going to get into Conboy who they paid a €350k+ transfer fee for and is a Danish international.

Fucking clueless.
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Draupnir wrote:
Unfortunuately I can still see this knob's posts when people quote him. As per usual - completely clueless.

25 players in the first team squad for NEC, and their total wages would be €2m?

You reckon that the average salary per player is €80000? Give me a break :lol:

Buysse and Kane alone are both on more than €7k a week. Not even going to get into Conboy who they paid a €350k+ transfer fee for and is a Danish international.

Fucking clueless.


Quoting so he sees ;)


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Draupnir wrote:
Unfortunuately I can still see this knob's posts when people quote him. As per usual - completely clueless.

25 players in the first team squad for NEC, and their total wages would be €2m?

You reckon that the average salary per player is €80000? Give me a break :lol:

Buysse and Kane alone are both on more than €7k a week. Not even going to get into Conboy who they paid a €350k+ transfer fee for and is a Danish international.

Fucking clueless.


where NEC getting the money dickhead....NEC would be getting less then €2m a year from TV money

Todd Kane a loan player, doesn't mean NEC be paying full wage

you guys think there a magical wage fairy in Europe, the clubs get littlie money from TV and sponsorship , but the fairy come along and bang €300,000 euro for everyone
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adrtho wrote:
Draupnir wrote:
Unfortunuately I can still see this knob's posts when people quote him. As per usual - completely clueless.

25 players in the first team squad for NEC, and their total wages would be €2m?

You reckon that the average salary per player is €80000? Give me a break :lol:

Buysse and Kane alone are both on more than €7k a week. Not even going to get into Conboy who they paid a €350k+ transfer fee for and is a Danish international.

Fucking clueless.


where NEC getting the money dickhead....NEC would be getting less then €2m a year from TV money

Todd Kane a loan player, doesn't mean NEC be paying full wage

you guys think there a magical wage fairy in Europe, the clubs get littlie money from TV and sponsorship , but the fairy come along and bang €300,000 euro for everyone


Don't really want to get involved but was interested to try and find some numbers so.

Firstly this has the Ajax's tv money at 9.3m which is 12.95% of the eredivisie total. This would put the Eredivisie total revenue at 72 million euros. If we say give the top four 50% (ajax's 12.95% is rank 1) that gives the average TV revenue for the other 14 as 2.57m. Of those 14 teams NEC is pretty much in the middle so I would say €2.3-2.8m as reasonable.

Secondly this site has their budget at 10.5m.

Lastly whats the argument about as a directer at the club says it looks like they can't keep him. So are you arguing that can the A-league clubs bids higher than a club slightly bigger than NEC?

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The 34-year-old Jones has clubs from the figure after his outstanding performance in the Goffert and NEC can not compete with the interested clubs. "We had Brad very much preserved, but it does not appear that he stays. He has a lot of opportunities in the market and has let us know that wish to make use of, "says technical manager Danny Hoekman NEC to VI.


http://www.vi.nl/nieuws/gewilde-jones-na-goed-halfjaar-onhoudbaar-voor-nec.htm

EDIT: This rumor collection article says Utrecht and Vitesse are linked to him. I doubt it is very reliable but perhaps gives an indication of what sized club we could expect him to be going to.


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Even with the figure of 2.8m, that takes into account zero in terms of other sponsorship, ticket prices or merchandise.

Two players on €7k a week is a total of €728000 a season. That'd mean if the club were spending around €2m a season on salaries, the other 23 members of the squad would be on an average salary of €55k, which is just an embarrassing thing to even think, let alone say.

The cheapest season ticket they've got is for €189.00 and they've sold 3612 for next season already. That's nearly €700000 just in case you were wondering.

Do the stats say that the chairman is a 20 year executive at Deloitte either?

The bloke is utterly, utterly clueless and no one should take anything he says as if it has any basis in reality.

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This thread is about OS players not about finances or some bs stats guys :lol:

Especially you Adrtho :lol:

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I have no idea why ardtho put so much stock in tv revenue. Even A-leagues clubs can spend 4 or 5x what they earn from the tv distribution
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Im not sure if it has been mentioned on here but Bozza said last night regards players moving to smaller clubs and from there they can get noticed by the bigger clubs and he mentioned Anthony Kalik move to Hajduk Split and he said that there has been enquiries about Kalik from AS Monaco.

The likes of Hajduk and Dinamo Zagreb have the tendency to sell on their best players to much bigger clubs, i don't want to jinx the kid but Kalik could be one we should keep an eye on.
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Barca4Life wrote:
Im not sure if it has been mentioned on here but Bozza said last night regards players moving to smaller clubs and from there they can get noticed by the bigger clubs and he mentioned Anthony Kalik move to Hajduk Split and he said that there has been enquiries about Kalik from AS Monaco.

The likes of Hajduk and Dinamo Zagreb have the tendency to sell on their best players to much bigger clubs, i don't want to jinx the kid but Kalik could be one we should keep an eye on.

We have way too many promising young centre mids and not enough of literally anything else.
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Neanderthal wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Im not sure if it has been mentioned on here but Bozza said last night regards players moving to smaller clubs and from there they can get noticed by the bigger clubs and he mentioned Anthony Kalik move to Hajduk Split and he said that there has been enquiries about Kalik from AS Monaco.

The likes of Hajduk and Dinamo Zagreb have the tendency to sell on their best players to much bigger clubs, i don't want to jinx the kid but Kalik could be one we should keep an eye on.

We have way too many promising young centre mids and not enough of literally anything else.


Its an achilles heel right now in australian football, alot of promising No.10s to No.6 but not enough wingers and strikers coming through but we getting better at producing better defenders
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Barca4Life wrote:
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Barca4Life wrote:
Im not sure if it has been mentioned on here but Bozza said last night regards players moving to smaller clubs and from there they can get noticed by the bigger clubs and he mentioned Anthony Kalik move to Hajduk Split and he said that there has been enquiries about Kalik from AS Monaco.

The likes of Hajduk and Dinamo Zagreb have the tendency to sell on their best players to much bigger clubs, i don't want to jinx the kid but Kalik could be one we should keep an eye on.

We have way too many promising young centre mids and not enough of literally anything else.


Its an achilles heel right now in australian football, alot of promising No.10s to No.6 but not enough wingers and strikers coming through but we getting better at producing better defenders

At least #10's can often be converted to wingers. Striker, right back and centre backs I'm underwhelmed with.
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Neanderthal wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Neanderthal wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Im not sure if it has been mentioned on here but Bozza said last night regards players moving to smaller clubs and from there they can get noticed by the bigger clubs and he mentioned Anthony Kalik move to Hajduk Split and he said that there has been enquiries about Kalik from AS Monaco.

The likes of Hajduk and Dinamo Zagreb have the tendency to sell on their best players to much bigger clubs, i don't want to jinx the kid but Kalik could be one we should keep an eye on.

We have way too many promising young centre mids and not enough of literally anything else.


Its an achilles heel right now in australian football, alot of promising No.10s to No.6 but not enough wingers and strikers coming through but we getting better at producing better defenders

At least #10's can often be converted to wingers. Striker, right back and centre backs I'm underwhelmed with.


Dylan Tombides was supposed to be our saviour
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lukerobinho wrote:
Neanderthal wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Neanderthal wrote:
Barca4Life wrote:
Im not sure if it has been mentioned on here but Bozza said last night regards players moving to smaller clubs and from there they can get noticed by the bigger clubs and he mentioned Anthony Kalik move to Hajduk Split and he said that there has been enquiries about Kalik from AS Monaco.

The likes of Hajduk and Dinamo Zagreb have the tendency to sell on their best players to much bigger clubs, i don't want to jinx the kid but Kalik could be one we should keep an eye on.

We have way too many promising young centre mids and not enough of literally anything else.


Its an achilles heel right now in australian football, alot of promising No.10s to No.6 but not enough wingers and strikers coming through but we getting better at producing better defenders

At least #10's can often be converted to wingers. Striker, right back and centre backs I'm underwhelmed with.


Dylan Tombides was supposed to be our saviour


He's gone man, let him go.
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Can't believe we haven't had a good left back since Chippers and now we have two in Smith and Gersbach

Wish one of them could play on the right
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a few days old and not surprising but Holland is looking for a new club in Germany apparently. The quote this site seems to base this off is "I'd like to stay here. I have met many friends at MSV Duisburg. Our team had a good character, ". This makes it sound likes he wants to stay at Duisburg but squad registration restrictions makes it so he will not be able to play in the 3.Liga. Will be interesting which sides have a look at him. Being relegated you have to be reasonable but he seemed to grow into the season so hopefully a team looking at the other end of the table would be great.

http://www.derwesten.de/sport/fussball/msv/bad-boy-holland-will-nach-msv-abstieg-in-deutschland-bleiben-id11863149.html
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Finding articles from Israel sucks but luckily there was an English one. Ruka has a 400 thousand Euro release clause which one of the top two are likely to match . This would greatly increase his chances of making the Europa league group stages.

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However, Rukavytsya has a release clause for 400,000 euros and his services are in demand by several teams in the Premier League after scoring 14 league goals for Beitar last season.

Meanwhile, the Jerusalem Municipality announced on Wednesday that Teddy Stadium will join many sports venues across the world and go green starting from next season. Work will begin next month to integrate a solar-energy system at the stadium, the first of its kind at an athletic arena in Israel.


http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Sports/LOCAL-SOCCER-Drapic-not-returning-to-coach-Beitar-for-second-season-455705
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Finding articles from Israel sucks but luckily there was an English one. Ruka has a 400 thousand Euro release clause which one of the top two are likely to match . This would greatly increase his chances of making the Europa league group stages.

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However, Rukavytsya has a release clause for 400,000 euros and his services are in demand by several teams in the Premier League after scoring 14 league goals for Beitar last season.

Meanwhile, the Jerusalem Municipality announced on Wednesday that Teddy Stadium will join many sports venues across the world and go green starting from next season. Work will begin next month to integrate a solar-energy system at the stadium, the first of its kind at an athletic arena in Israel.


http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Sports/LOCAL-SOCCER-Drapic-not-returning-to-coach-Beitar-for-second-season-455705


Didnt realise he was scoring so often. When they say premier league they dont mean England do they? Always thought Ruka had all the tools, just needed to find his shooting boots consistently. Used to be a fun FIFA player a few years ago too
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Yeah its hard getting info from Israel but he was 2nd in the golden boot race not sure how many assists he notched up but a move to Tel aviv would be massive if only because they are so much better than the next best team. I think they had the leagues golden boot who had like 30 goals from midfield. Wouldn't mind seeing Ruka on the wing for the Roos or as a CF lacks control but has tons of speed and a good frame on him.
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moofa wrote:
Finding articles from Israel sucks but luckily there was an English one. Ruka has a 400 thousand Euro release clause which one of the top two are likely to match . This would greatly increase his chances of making the Europa league group stages.

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However, Rukavytsya has a release clause for 400,000 euros and his services are in demand by several teams in the Premier League after scoring 14 league goals for Beitar last season.

Meanwhile, the Jerusalem Municipality announced on Wednesday that Teddy Stadium will join many sports venues across the world and go green starting from next season. Work will begin next month to integrate a solar-energy system at the stadium, the first of its kind at an athletic arena in Israel.


http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Sports/LOCAL-SOCCER-Drapic-not-returning-to-coach-Beitar-for-second-season-455705


Didnt realise he was scoring so often. When they say premier league they dont mean England do they? Always thought Ruka had all the tools, just needed to find his shooting boots consistently. Used to be a fun FIFA player a few years ago too


It means the Israeli Premier League.

No shit but this is the league's logo :lol:


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Draupnir wrote:
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Finding articles from Israel sucks but luckily there was an English one. Ruka has a 400 thousand Euro release clause which one of the top two are likely to match . This would greatly increase his chances of making the Europa league group stages.

Quote:
However, Rukavytsya has a release clause for 400,000 euros and his services are in demand by several teams in the Premier League after scoring 14 league goals for Beitar last season.

Meanwhile, the Jerusalem Municipality announced on Wednesday that Teddy Stadium will join many sports venues across the world and go green starting from next season. Work will begin next month to integrate a solar-energy system at the stadium, the first of its kind at an athletic arena in Israel.


http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Sports/LOCAL-SOCCER-Drapic-not-returning-to-coach-Beitar-for-second-season-455705


Didnt realise he was scoring so often. When they say premier league they dont mean England do they? Always thought Ruka had all the tools, just needed to find his shooting boots consistently. Used to be a fun FIFA player a few years ago too


It means the Israeli Premier League.

No shit but this is the league's logo :lol:



That just made me join ISIS.
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Finding articles from Israel sucks but luckily there was an English one. Ruka has a 400 thousand Euro release clause which one of the top two are likely to match . This would greatly increase his chances of making the Europa league group stages.

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However, Rukavytsya has a release clause for 400,000 euros and his services are in demand by several teams in the Premier League after scoring 14 league goals for Beitar last season.

Meanwhile, the Jerusalem Municipality announced on Wednesday that Teddy Stadium will join many sports venues across the world and go green starting from next season. Work will begin next month to integrate a solar-energy system at the stadium, the first of its kind at an athletic arena in Israel.


http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Sports/LOCAL-SOCCER-Drapic-not-returning-to-coach-Beitar-for-second-season-455705


Didnt realise he was scoring so often. When they say premier league they dont mean England do they? Always thought Ruka had all the tools, just needed to find his shooting boots consistently. Used to be a fun FIFA player a few years ago too


It means the Israeli Premier League.

No shit but this is the league's logo :lol:



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Andy Rose the next league one player to get a look into the Socceroos?
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Suggestions of an Amini move to another team within Denmark, although it doesn't name the team. It's good to see him getting noticed and moving up the ranks would be a good thing if he gets time. Gotta wonder about talking to the media though if a deal isn't even done yet.

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Aljay wrote:
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Suggestions of an Amini move to another team within Denmark, although it doesn't name the team. It's good to see him getting noticed and moving up the ranks would be a good thing if he gets time. Gotta wonder about talking to the media though if a deal isn't even done yet.

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Copenhagen. Pls.


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He is 23 now, playing in the Danish league, there must be something wrong with him mentally, he just isn't kicking on
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moops wrote:
He is 23 now, playing in the Danish league, there must be something wrong with him mentally, he just isn't kicking on


He mentions his lack of EU passport being an issue.
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Does anyone know where Gian Mendez is now playing? apparently he has left Valencia and is playing somewhere else in Spain, just not to sure what club it is!


Also is Cameron Burgess still contracted to Cheltenham next season? they got promoted and will play in League 2 so at least he will be playing at somewhat of a higher level.


And Finally what the actual shit has happened to 'wonder kid' Mr Xane Zainnedine? has the bloke just fallen off the side of the earth or some shit? literally been no news regarding injury or club what so ever over the last year... he's now 17 so really should be starting to burst onto the scene.
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