Ok, let's just summarise this never ending troll fest and end it there:

- SMFC fans start a thread to try and talk up their own club based on 1 MH crowd
- SMFC and MV fans are united in their opposition to MH, which shows MH may actually be more under their skin than some want to admit
- SMFC fans continue their never ending talk up of their club and how broadbased it is, trying to shoot down any opposition to this concept
- SMFC and MV fans claim MH has no culture or point of difference. People ask what those clubs actually stand for and what they bring to the table? SMFC fans overlook the fact that the value the club could bring to the table is more likely a liability, given the likely inability to adapt without leaving many of their fans disenfranchised. MV fans claim they are the only team in Melbourne so there is no need for MH. Somehow the 2 groups side with each other, even though it goes against the points being made.
- SMFC fans bring up story after story from those joining the anti-MH bandwagon, with new threads for each.
- SMFC fans will not stop until MH are gone, no matter what damage this will do for the sport just to bring forward their own agenda.

And there it is....,




Edited by heart_fan: 12/12/2012 10:25:10 PM

Ok, let's just summarise this never ending troll fest and end it there:

- SMFC fans start a thread to try and talk up their own club based on 1 MH crowd
- SMFC and MV fans are united in their opposition to MH, which shows MH may actually be more under their skin than some want to admit
- SMFC fans continue their never ending talk up of their club and how broadbased it is, trying to shoot down any opposition to this concept
- SMFC and MV fans claim MH has no culture or point of difference. People ask what those clubs actually stand for and what they bring to the table? SMFC fans overlook the fact that the value the club could bring to the table is more likely a liability, given the likely inability to adapt without leaving many of their fans disenfranchised. MV fans claim they are the only team in Melbourne so there is no need for MH. Somehow the 2 groups side with each other, even though it goes against the points being made.
- SMFC fans bring up story after story from those joining the anti-MH bandwagon, with new threads for each.
- SMFC fans will not stop until MH are gone, no matter what damage this will do for the sport just to bring forward their own agenda.

And there it is....,




Edited by heart_fan: 12/12/2012 10:25:10 PM

Ok, let's just summarise this never ending troll fest and end it there:

- SMFC fans start a thread to try and talk up their own club based on 1 MH crowd
- SMFC and MV fans are united in their opposition to MH, which shows MH may actually be more under their skin than some want to admit
- SMFC fans continue their never ending talk up of their club and how broadbased it is, trying to shoot down any opposition to this concept
- SMFC and MV fans claim MH has no culture or point of difference. People ask what those clubs actually stand for and what they bring to the table? SMFC fans overlook the fact that the value the club could bring to the table is more likely a liability, given the likely inability to adapt without leaving many of their fans disenfranchised. MV fans claim they are the only team in Melbourne so there is no need for MH. Somehow the 2 groups side with each other, even though it goes against the points being made.
- SMFC fans bring up story after story from those joining the anti-MH bandwagon, with new threads for each.
- SMFC fans will not stop until MH are gone, no matter what damage this will do for the sport just to bring forward their own agenda.

And there it is....,




Edited by heart_fan: 12/12/2012 10:25:10 PM

Ok, let's just summarise this never ending troll fest and end it there:

- SMFC fans start a thread to try and talk up their own club based on 1 MH crowd
- SMFC and MV fans are united in their opposition to MH, which shows MH may actually be more under their skin than some want to admit
- SMFC fans continue their never ending talk up of their club and how broadbased it is, trying to shoot down any opposition to this concept
- SMFC and MV fans claim MH has no culture or point of difference. People ask what those clubs actually stand for and what they bring to the table? SMFC fans overlook the fact that the value the club could bring to the table is more likely a liability, given the likely inability to adapt without leaving many of their fans disenfranchised. MV fans claim they are the only team in Melbourne so there is no need for MH. Somehow the 2 groups side with each other, even though it goes against the points being made.
- SMFC fans bring up story after story from those joining the anti-MH bandwagon, with new threads for each.
- SMFC fans will not stop until MH are gone, no matter what damage this will do for the sport just to bring forward their own agenda.

And there it is....,


Edited by heart_fan: 12/12/2012 10:25:10 PM

Yeah cool story bro, one day you and the rest of the delusionals will realise that Olympic and South will NEVER ever play in the HAL and you can stop wasting our 1s and 0s(not forgetting to mention time) on this board.

You forgot this bit;

Then The Age's Lynch comes out with a piece on Hearts viability.

SBS's Les Murray questions what Heart Stands for.

And two pieces in The Roar questioning what Heart stands for.

For SMFC supporters to question Hearts viability means it is an obvious position that Heart is in.

surely you have to come up with something better than that?

Sounds like a HAL scenario - franchise goes broke - new owner or new team to replace broken one

smfc is a not for profit organisation and has a high level of organisational agility predominantly due to the fact that it is a members run club which is ultimately governed by the members and its community - not investors like the Heart whose licence depends on the pockets of a select few

soon these investors will be dry reaching in their pockets

Unlike a heritage club - MH have an extremely rigid model that will fracture quite easily and readily when stressed even slightly

I think the real threat to many is the fact that a member run club will mean the FFA relinquishes its ownership of intellectual property of the clubs in it's comp

Whilst the innitial totalitarian model by the FFA may have been required to get the HAL to its feet and running - this same approach will surely stun any further development and expansion this game deserves - evidence of this is how the FFA is yet to set up an independent committee to run the HAL - it was the very essence of the Crawford Report and the flare that brought an overhaul to the game at a national level - The FFA has not implemented these changes and is a critical reason along with other changes that are required as to why Australia is now viewed as a Tier 2 Nation with the AFC

evidence of smfc's organisational agility is everywhere - first team to not only accept but implement FFA carriculum updates each time - and will continue to do so

This privatised model has run its course - it set a foundation - it achieved what was required at the time but will stun future growth of the game

smfc or no smfc - the time will come when most clubs need to be run by the community they represent - especially in regional areas where they want their club to be an analogy of the community it represents

Privatised Investment into the franchise model is now thin - there are no cues - no one is lining up to take control of a HAL Licence - the oil reserves have dried up

time for a community model for the next phase of expansion


Edited by chris: 12/12/2012 10:24:53 PM

Edited by chris: 12/12/2012 10:44:29 PM

Will you MH CUSTOMERS...(no such thing as Members in the Aleague),,,be prepared to donate funds to keep your club and its Shareholders afloat when potentially this occurs at the end of the season?

Just curious to see whether you boys are prepared to put your money where your mouth is?

That was in 1977 B4! That's drawing a pretty long bow.

Besides it didn't really work "Long Term".

FACT: 4 Aleague clubs are trying to be offloaded by their owners. Now that Foxtel deal is done, the owners are scrambling for the exit.
Hearts is definitely one of the 4. Problem is the FFA is still trying to find a buyer for the WSW. That makes it 5 clubs !!

FACT: Asia has told FFA that in 4 yrs, they need to open up Aleague,to promotion/relegation. Losing champions league spot is just a shot across the deck !

FACT: All the owners know they have a 4 year window to get a little of what they have invested back!! Or Cut their losses and run !!

QUESTION: Are you CUSTOMERS (remember.... their are no MEMBERS in the Aleague) of MH, prepared to dig in your pockets to help save the Shareholders interests ?? Cause that will happen unfortunately.


Still waiting for your answer boys !

FACT: 4 Aleague clubs are trying to be offloaded by their owners. Now that Foxtel deal is done, the owners are scrambling for the exit.
Hearts is definitely one of the 4. Problem is the FFA is still trying to find a buyer for the WSW. That makes it 5 clubs !!

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FACT: 4 Aleague clubs are trying to be offloaded by their owners. Now that Foxtel deal is done, the owners are scrambling for the exit.
Hearts is definitely one of the 4. Problem is the FFA is still trying to find a buyer for the WSW. That makes it 5 clubs !!

FACT: Asia has told FFA that in 4 yrs, they need to open up Aleague,to promotion/relegation. Losing champions league spot is just a shot across the deck !

FACT: All the owners know they have a 4 year window to get a little of what they have invested back!! Or Cut their losses and run !!

QUESTION: Are you CUSTOMERS (remember.... their are no MEMBERS in the Aleague) of MH, prepared to dig in your pockets to help save the Shareholders interests ?? Cause that will happen unfortunately.


Still waiting for your answer boys !

Fact remains it is hypocrisy to bag MH for exactly the same thing SMFC did - its pure bias and unmitigated lack of objectivity.
if Chris had said that SMFC tried it and failed, and was advising against it accordingly then I would not have a problem
However he chose to conveniently throw another dagger believing he would not be caught out. All he did was further undermine his credibility, and once again reinforcing that most of what he post is poor spin or misinformation.

As a point raised earlier, the thing that will hold back the game is the media ripping us apart at the very opportunity to link us to the bad old days of the game in this country,which like it or not SMFC is a poster boy for. That would be far more damaging for growth than the words of a vocal few that have clear agendas and keep proving that every time they see a slight opportunity to do it.


Edited by heart_fan: 13/12/2012 12:16:11 AM

:lol: :lol: Look at all these weapons salivating over a crowd..

Heart will end up building an identity as the team that is picked on for having no identity :lol:. The more stick we get the better, our target market is not Victory fans and the minority who are forever betrayed..

Just like any business if we manage to see out the first 5-10 years there will be a chance for new fans, kids etc to have a choice in Melbourne. And if we fail, well we just join a long list of football teams in this country that have fallen over, which has happened for 50 years+ here..

^^ oh well, the SMFC keyboard warriors/trolls must be at it again :lol:

You must be loving this.....

Who Lynchy and Murray?

Se what power we have!#-o

Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?

We do!

Well it is supposedly a Greek who is sleeping with the Queen.