If behind the goals is half full, that's 2800 people. There is no way that the rest of the ground combined can make up more than 3000 people.

By assumption you and your comrades are logical?PLEASE!

That Nicholas Cage gif has been done! See? You just keep recycling the same crap over and over again!
Benjamin has even admitted to it, he has "selective answering", it's a condition where you ignore all reasonable arguments and only argue the less important crap.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure anything concerning SMFC gaining access to the A-League falls under the heading less important crap.
Still, it can be fun to talk shit for 111 pages.

EDIT: make that 118 pages.

Edited by f1worldchamp: 14/2/2013 03:58:04 PM

I Agree with you Axelv

MH seems to have a lot of fans - perhaps even families who are very good as disgising themselves as empty seats - must be the latest ultra fan club for them

Melbourne Heart business model

OK Next game - even if it is v Sydney - can someone please take a snap of all 4 grandstands and post the results here?

There's no way that South would get bigger crowds than the heart are now (maybe if they were brought in ahead of Heart originally, but not now).

Its just so much better than LOL or :lol: see.



Clearly reflects my mood.

Always interesting to see which words you highlight... You skip right over the bit about Soccer Australia (not the clubs) being incompetent, you skip by the bit about the incidents being blown up in the media (because if you acknowledged that you'd have to stop re-printing your favourites), and instead focus on the mention of the club's name. You continue to link the incidents to ethnicity rather than stupidity. You are transparent.



Nope - what I said was I only argue when I feel the other person is talking shit - if you put a reasonable argument forward in a reasonable way I won't argue. I believe that's called being reasonable.

+1 great gif!

Sums up everyone's reaction in trying to take the Heart seriously.

A Melbourne Heart player, (don't know his name but his not a Victorian) celebrating his goal with the Heart fans.



Edited by Arthur: 15/2/2013 08:00:44 AM

All the heart fans arrived early for the derby a fortnight ago.

Thread of the year contender.

Rust and B4

This weekends storyline in regards to flares and a spectator decking out a
Police officer just shows that football/soccer/wogball has not achieved immunity from negative press given the smallest opportunity
Furthermore it dismisses your arguments on multiple fronts
Such as the removal of migrant founded teams for the sake of mainstream media
And of course the continuation of kicking football in the teeth at any given opportunity
This weekend the AFL LAUNCHED its ore season cup - it is no coincidence that negative print about football hit the market simultaneously

That is why smfc is required in a code that is failing to stimulate the press in regards to promoting our game
Smfc would be controversial - I admit it - but it would also generate a lot of observation and commentary from multiple platforms

The heart do not generate any level of stimulation at a market level - admit it guys

Same shit being broadcast all over again

Football is coping a bad wrap every weekend at the moment and "SMFC would be controversial" will help in no way what so ever, you're just delusional. ADP, Heskey and Ono 'stimulated the press,' a club which means nothing to 99% of the country won't.
This thread as you can see is going nowhere, David Gallop won't look at this as solid evidence for South to enter the A-League, so stop posting shit to keep this bloody thread alive!

You cannot be serious - ethnic violence CANNOT be compared to this small scale mindless idiotic fringe behavior.
Ethnic flash points were consistent and predictable in many OLD SOCCER games and never resolved because of their entrenched and enduring nature.
This fringe behavior WILL be stamped out - the ethnic flash points WILL NOT.
If you cannot understand the difference then it's clear that you will grasp at any tenuous argument to support your position. And is doing so, you project yourself as an unsophisticated participant in these debates, lacking clear or discriminating insight on these important issues.
Lift your game son.

Edited by backfour: 18/2/2013 04:55:27 PM

After attending NSL matches for 20+ years, I agree wholeheartedly with Chris.

In its truest sense, the notion of "ETHNIC VIOLENCE" relates to transferring nationalistic conflict into the stadium where I agree it has no place.

The Preston Lions left the NSL in 1993 (20 year anniversary this year), this left the mix of remaining traditional clubs to be of "Croatian, Italian and Greek" descent.

I cannot identify current nationalistic conflict between these three nations, I would therefore argue that post 1993, just like now, "anti social" football stadium behaviour has its roots firmly in "over zealous" supporter groups trying to replicate "Hooligan" behaviour present in European and South American football.

This notion supports the current explosion of "reported anti-social football stadium violence". No presence of "ETHNIC CLUBS" yet they same "anti-social footbal" behaviour in football stadiums exists.

Regarding the journalism, the articles have to now be slightly more thought out as the "ethnic violence" card which was "lazy" journalism for the past 20 years cannot be played.

If anything, we're now in a position where "traditional clubs" are in a situation where their founding communities are in their 4th & 5th generations and this has forced a "re-think" regarding how these "anti social" behavioural issues are reported, with the media now forced to report it for what it is, "over zealous" supporter groups trying to replicate "Hooligan" behaviour present in European and South American football.

I will admit, even now, much of this journalism is still "lazy" and "sensationalistic" much like it was during the NSL era but that's what you get with media deals worth circa 1 billion, i.e. AFL/NRL. Naturally these deals ensure that various media outlets want to protect their investment and will use all means possible to do so.


Edited by southfan: 18/2/2013 08:16:58 PM

Edited by southfan: 18/2/2013 08:18:10 PM

lame bump has nothing to do with the Heart or SMFC replacing them.

It would appear that 'people power' has prevailed and Heart's youth/reserve team are not to be admitted to the admitted to State 2 for the 2013 season. So... Even the FFV don't want Heart?

Hmmmmmm

Just fold the Heart and get it over and done with.

Which year? :lol:

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Edited by chris: 22/2/2013 10:32:31 AM

Just suck it up wait 20-30 years for promotion/relegation and leave the front page for more worthy clubs/topics.

No one likes the sight of a public circle jerk.

Edited by Fourfiveone: 22/2/2013 12:56:25 AM

Chris is now turning this into an advertising campaign for SMFC's membership drive! It's not even relevant to Heart anymore...

I think it's time this thread gets locked or moved to the State League forum, especially considering the lame posts and attempts to keep bumping it back up to the first page every few days purely to treat Chris' and Benjamin's bruised egos.

Looking forward to seeing you at the MHvSFC game this Sunday...Arthur will be there too, maybe you can carpool! ;)

This has nothing to do with the premise of the thread, you have turned it into a defacto South Melbourne club thread..and therefore to the state league it goes.

One post on a 120 pages is about a push for a SMFC Membership so it gets pushed to State leagues and supposedly loses its relevance?


It appears to me you are a little too eager Joffa in getting rid of this "uncomfortable" topic from the Australian Football Forum or see it as a way to "punish" Chris at everyone else's expense.

As a moderator you obviously make a lot of decisions mostly right this time I think you've got it wrong this time around, in that the response is a bit harsh.

More like a warning to Chris first would have been sufficient (or Yellow Card) and a return of the topic back to the Australian Football Forum.

Actually no, I have had conversations previously about this thread with Chris, we have had several bumps lately after the thread had fallen of the first couple of pages and I don't believe those bumps and direction of the conversation are current to Australian football... But realising it is an active discussion topic I have moved it to the more appropriate section where the NSL and the clubs that have been discussed in this topic recently, Footscray,, Heidelberg and so on can be discussed in greater detail.

I did the same thing with the western Sydney code war thread, but thanks for accusing me of being biased, if I was uncomfortable with the topic I would've locked the thread.

And furthermore I queried his last two bumps of this thread, with saying the first bump was' lame' and not really relevant to the topic and on the second off topic bump moved it.

Edited by Joffa: 22/2/2013 10:19:10 AM

Ok I have deleted the membership drive Joffa

The rest is up to you

Topic remains relevant as south is looking at entering the top

Membership drive was to show you guys how professional and advanced this club is in its application








Edited by chris: 22/2/2013 10:38:33 AM

Actually no, I did not accuse you of being biased. I just said it is an "uncomfortable topic" and an attempt to "punish" Chris for his latest comments. So he gets punished for his commentary, but so to does everyone else who is doing the "right" thing.
I'm saying deal with Chris not the topic.

By the way since this is in the spotlight;

Will Del Piero's appearance be an indicator of what a "Marquee" player could do for Heart?

10,000 maybe not

12,000 could be

15,000 sign someone now

Edited by Arthur: 22/2/2013 11:12:37 AM