The rise of racist rhetoric on 442.


The rise of racist rhetoric on 442.

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It's been an interesting phenomenon increasing over the past few years.

Is it a reflection of more intense xenophobia in society at large, or just a few trolls leading a brigade?
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A little of both I reckon . But having the mainstream media serviced by Andrew.bolt ,Miranda devines et al makes it hard .that's why u get douches like polemides,lukrrobinho and the like sounding like a broken record
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I find it a bit rich that a guy who consistently attacks people with religious beliefs is complaining about the bigotry of other people.
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There does seem to be more posters here specifically to push racist and/or political views.
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MusikResponse wrote:
There does seem to be more posters here specifically to push racist and/or political views.

Probably a direct correlation to the number of users actually ON the forum.

There have been a bunch of racists on here in the past, but they've been weeeded out faster previously.
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Joffa been off the boil lately .
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afromanGT wrote:
I find it a bit rich that a guy who consistently attacks people with religious beliefs is complaining about the bigotry of other people.

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Lefty logic, Attacks on Christians = fair game. Attacks on Islam = racism
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afromanGT wrote:
MusikResponse wrote:
There does seem to be more posters here specifically to push racist and/or political views.

Probably a direct correlation to the number of users actually ON the forum.

There have been a bunch of racists on here in the past, but they've been weeeded out faster previously.

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afromanGT wrote:
I find it a bit rich that a guy who consistently attacks people with religious beliefs is complaining about the bigotry of other people.


People that accuse me of attacking people with religious beliefs either don't understand the conversation, or are throwing up strawmen for other reasons. It's not hard to figure out where you lie.

"Attacks" are always levelled at ideas, not individuals for the sake of attack. If you can prove otherwise, feel free.

If you'd like to have another stouch that results in little more than public annoyance and 11.mvfc.11 signing upfor another afro fellatio session, perhaps we can do it in another thread that isn't related to a real issue in our online community and society at large.
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How the hell did you get back on here mk ?
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notorganic wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
I find it a bit rich that a guy who consistently attacks people with religious beliefs is complaining about the bigotry of other people.


People that accuse me of attacking people with religious beliefs either don't understand the conversation, or are throwing up strawmen for other reasons. It's not hard to figure out where you lie.

"Attacks" are always levelled at ideas, not individuals for the sake of attack. If you can prove otherwise, feel free.

If you'd like to have another stouch that results in little more than public annoyance and 11.mvfc.11 signing upfor another afro fellatio session, perhaps we can do it in another thread that isn't related to a real issue in our online community and society at large.

Yes, bring up 'logical fallacies' in its own deliciously ironic strawman argument =d> =d> And then continue with further strawman arguments. Good on you, buddy.

I don't see anyone like Socceroos Supporter's Xenophobia being levelled at a specific user in particular, however, you HAVE singled out users like General, Fredsta and Zimbos for their religious beliefs.

I'm sure you're strengthening your argument suggesting that any user (and there's a long list) who disagrees with you and dislikes you is signing up for an "afro fellatio session". Really hard to refute the point.

Fuckin' bravo.
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afromanGT wrote:
don't see anyone like Socceroos Supporter's Xenophobia being levelled at a specific user in particular, however, you HAVE singled out users like General, Fredsta and Zimbos for their religious beliefs.


Never attacked them directly, only the religiously motivated ideas. Again, if you'd like to provide quotes of proof otherwise please go ahead. Saying something over and over again doesn't make it true.

I think you'll find that I have a lot of personal respect for both Ashnak and Zimbos (I also continue to work with both extensively on OTP) , I don't know fredsta all that well but I don't have anything off the top of my head that I dislike about him worth attacking.

And as I already said, if you want to have this out elsewhere - start a different thread for it. This thread is to discuss the racism and xenophobia that is becoming more prevalent on 442.

Maybe a discussion on Islamophobia is also warranted as TrueAnglo alludes.
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And as I already said, if you want to have this out elsewhere - start a different thread for it. This thread is to discuss the racism and xenophobia that is becoming more prevalent on 442.

It's only become 'more prevalent' because you propagated it. The powers that be didn't ban you for your bigotry, so they can't really ban these other users for theirs.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
A little of both I reckon . But having the mainstream media serviced by Andrew.bolt ,Miranda devines et al makes it hard .that's why u get douches like polemides,lukrrobinho and the like sounding like a broken record


Has there been a noticeable shift towards irrational protectionism in the media?
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Define racism.
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notorganic wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
A little of both I reckon . But having the mainstream media serviced by Andrew.bolt ,Miranda devines et al makes it hard .that's why u get douches like polemides,lukrrobinho and the like sounding like a broken record


Has there been a noticeable shift towards irrational protectionism in the media?

well Andrew bolt and Miranda Devine both have had articles saying wilders is affirmed free speech . Bolta even had dinner with the man
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Racism is usually defined as views, practices and actions reflecting the belief that humanity is divided into distinct biological groups called racesand that members of a certain race share certain attributes which make that group as a whole less desirable, more desirable, inferior orsuperior.

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Im inferior to all y'all .I'm A catholic man married to a Muslim .............
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SlyGoat36 wrote:
Define racism.

Do you really need a definition for a term thrown around so prolifically these days?
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Im inferior to all y'all .I'm A catholic man married to a Muslim .............


Could be worse ;)
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as a christian I know that we get mocked and ripped every day. Not that its the end of the world really its a small inconvenience compared to how wonderful it is to be a Christian so you learn to have a thick skin. Even still I appreciate those who stand up for us - its very kind (although it is probably harder for a muslim)

as someone who has been a foreigner in another country I know how disoreintating that can be and even the occasional stray rude comment can really get to you because you are so far from friends and family. Again its a small inconvenience really compared to how wonderful it is to have an adventure in another country. Again even still I appreciate all those who stand up against racism (not that I've actually experienced racism but its the same logic, treat someone different coz they are from somewhere else)

so its not either or really is it? just don't be a jerk to anyone and if you go out of your way to be kind to anyone from any of the above categories your a legend

hope thats not too kumbyah :P

Edited by grazorblade: 26/2/2013 09:44:06 PM
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notorganic wrote:
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Racism is usually defined as views, practices and actions reflecting the belief that humanity is divided into distinct biological groups called racesand that members of a certain race share certain attributes which make that group as a whole less desirable, more desirable, inferior orsuperior.


PaulC's posts in a nutshell.


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grazorblade wrote:
as a christian

[youtube]CSP3X4HKRb8[/youtube]
Made me think of 1:20 onwards.
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TheSelectFew wrote:
notorganic wrote:
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Racism is usually defined as views, practices and actions reflecting the belief that humanity is divided into distinct biological groups called racesand that members of a certain race share certain attributes which make that group as a whole less desirable, more desirable, inferior orsuperior.


PaulC's posts in a nutshell.


And yours.
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afromanGT wrote:
grazorblade wrote:
as a christian

[youtube]CSP3X4HKRb8[/youtube]
Made me think of 1:20 onwards.

lol
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paulc ranges from xenophobia to outright homophobia to an almost alarming scale.

But nothing has ever been done about it.

-PB

https://i.imgur.com/batge7K.jpg

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paulbagzFC wrote:
paulc ranges from xenophobia to outright homophobia to an almost alarming scale.

But nothing has ever been done about it.

-PB

It gives the forum a common enemy.
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If people want to have a serious discussion about Islam, multiculturalism or asylum seekers and a thread like the Touchy Subjects was created to keep it all in one place, I'd probably be okay with that.

However, if all these people are going to do is spam articles that support their opinions and then straw man the other side's opinions, then I think we have a problem.

Edited by SpawningSalmon: 27/2/2013 12:01:43 AM
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Im inferior to all y'all .I'm A catholic man married to a Muslim .............


How did that happen, i have a few muslim freinds who have had trouble with that because muslim women arnt allowed to marry non muslim men?
GO


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