Well,

How it this a belief? Isn't this a fact?
And;

So the terms 'racism' and 'racial discrimination' are interchangable?

More desirable character traits doesn't mean discrimination. Not wanting your child to be a ginger isn't discrimination, that's just unfortunate.

This was the agreed definition as per earlier in the thread.

"Racism: Noun
The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race"

It mentions nothing of discrimination.

That's not racism, that's just stating a fact. It becomes racism when that difference becomes a justification to assert that he is somehow less capable or important than someone with a different skin colour.

Action on that assertion is largely irrelevant.

If I said that a man had dark skin, that could be classified as racism, however just because I'm highlighting it as a discernible feature doesn't mean that I'm discriminating against him for it.

Can there be racism without discrimination? I'd love to hear how.

So which one is this thread supposed to be about?

Absolutely. Making sweeping generalisations is wrong. And being wrong is for women.

uh...I mean...

Granted. Both sides would do well to reduce their sweeping generalizations.

I don't think necessarily the word 'racism' is a bad thing. Its prolific overuse has come to see the meaning blurred with Racial Discrimination.

So is it racist to point out differences between peoples, or only if you use those differnces to put people down?

I'm already starting to think that :lol:

I don't understand kids these days at all.

They wanted her to dump him originally so she did, but then got back with him and told them to fuck off. This lasted about three months and apparently things weren't going as well, plus her father (apparently, according to my mate, not sure if this is true) threatened to disown her. They had another spell but then she realised she couldn't be with someone her parents weren't ok with. And yeah.

There's also the other side of the coin with the whole "It's not racism if it's true" school of thought.

The word Racist is horrifically overused these days.

People tend to define racism as anything spoken by someone of European/Anglo descent which is critical of a minority in any way.

We're doing Tintin miltis now? Dibs on Thompson and Thompson.

So...her father and brother pressured her into dumping him...but she got back with him anyway. lolwut?

Bingo!

Hell I know some catholics who can't marry pronestants . Same religion different church leader .

Hell no. My inlaws don't give a flying Fuck . Yes they're muslims but they already been thru pain why inflict it even more .i

All religions have varied adherence rates and cultural influences.

Surely the same Islamic rules regarding marrying non-Muslims still apply?

See this is were people get so worked up . She is Muslim but isnt the stereotypical Brown person people automatically assume she is . For one she is Bosnian , who are Slavic people.sadly people think Arabic people can only be Muslim

My hindhi mate's girlfriend dumped him three times because she was muslim and her brother and father pressured her to.

How did that happen, i have a few muslim freinds who have had trouble with that because muslim women arnt allowed to marry non muslim men?

If people want to have a serious discussion about Islam, multiculturalism or asylum seekers and a thread like the Touchy Subjects was created to keep it all in one place, I'd probably be okay with that.

However, if all these people are going to do is spam articles that support their opinions and then straw man the other side's opinions, then I think we have a problem.

Edited by SpawningSalmon: 27/2/2013 12:01:43 AM

It gives the forum a common enemy.

paulc ranges from xenophobia to outright homophobia to an almost alarming scale.

But nothing has ever been done about it.

-PB

lol