SYDNEY MARDI GRAS 2013 POLICE BRUTALITY


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I question the decorum. I feel in some circumstances that it is too strict and impractical for some of the situations police encounter. Too much energy is spent on crossing 'T's and doting 'I's. Circumstances are different and training cannot provide much more than fundamental or "likely" practical problems.

Look, that's a given but when you end up throwing a kid who's half your size face-first into the pavement then clearly your training and moral compass have failed you quite miserably.

That's the problem with people screaming "police brutality" with every little police action, that's all swept under the rug as standard procedure and now that something worthy of being questioned has happened it will most probably have a similar response.
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afromanGT wrote:
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I question the decorum. I feel in some circumstances that it is too strict and impractical for some of the situations police encounter. Too much energy is spent on crossing 'T's and doting 'I's. Circumstances are different and training cannot provide much more than fundamental or "likely" practical problems.

Look, that's a given but when you end up throwing a kid who's half your size face-first into the pavement then clearly your training and moral compass have failed you quite miserably.

That's the problem with people screaming "police brutality" with every little police action, that's all swept under the rug as standard procedure and now that something worthy of being questioned has happened it will most probably have a similar response.


Agree with the above.
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afromanGT wrote:
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From the footage, it definitely does look heavy handed, I'm not saying that the officer involved probably shouldn't have used that amount of force, but we don't know the events leading up to the filming.

Quite frankly, the amount of frustration Police have in dealing with drunken and drug fueled idiots weekend in weekend out, you're bound to get one or two loose eggs after a while.

I understand their frustration, but that's why they do years of training and are on sizeable salaries to do their job. They're trained to act with decorum, not pick on a skinny kid and throw him around like a rag doll. They've picked on this kid because they can get away with throwing around someone of his size. Someone larger and they might have got hurt back.

Actually NSW Police salaries are pretty low. Just higher than your average nurse. As the old saying goes, you don't join the Police for the $$$.

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I cannot believe that people are defending these hired thugs.

And you pay for them with your taxes.
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TheSelectFew wrote:
It'll all just end with a slap on the wrist.

Doubt it. It's getting some pretty strong media attention already and the videos only been up for around 48 hours. The NSW Police Force have alredy initiated an internal investigation. I couldn't see the rank of the officer, but I'm going to guess he's nothing more than a Constable. He'll either be booted off the force, or be suspended for several; weeks (if he hasn't already) with reduced pay.

If he stays on the force and is found guilty of using indiscriminate force , he'll find it pretty difficult to move anywhere good. From what I've heard he works out of Fairfield LAC, so he'll proably be transferred to some little out-back hole for 2-years. From then on he'll probably be trading on thin ice in regards to his behaviour.

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notorganic wrote:
I cannot believe that people are defending these hired thugs.

And you pay for them with your taxes.

And for the most part, they do a fantastic job, serving and protecting the community. It's every now and then one steps out of line, or does something wrong.

I'm not surprised you're taking the actions of one Police Officer, and then tarring the ~15,000 sworn memebers of the NSW Police Force (or any other Police force) with the same brush.

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That's a wake up call for that kid. When police have you in handcuffs, that is not the time to be resisting. Drugged or drunk it doesn't matter. Why should NSW taxpayers be paying to have a policeman's hands tied up dealing with a feral, when he could be hands free with his boot on his neck.

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Typical police dirty tactics, This is the real Australian police thugs i know. I bet you won't see this on Highway patrol or "the force" the scripted PR campaign series that they are.
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lukerobinho wrote:
Typical police dirty tactics, This is the real Australian police thugs i know. I bet you won't see this on Highway patrol or "the force" the scripted PR campaign series that they are.


:roll: FTP

Some logic: Don't give police a reason to target you and they won't :)
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Heineken wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
It'll all just end with a slap on the wrist.

Doubt it. It's getting some pretty strong media attention already and the videos only been up for around 48 hours. The NSW Police Force have alredy initiated an internal investigation. I couldn't see the rank of the officer, but I'm going to guess he's nothing more than a Constable. He'll either be booted off the force, or be suspended for several; weeks (if he hasn't already) with reduced pay.

If he stays on the force and is found guilty of using indiscriminate force , he'll find it pretty difficult to move anywhere good. From what I've heard he works out of Fairfield LAC, so he'll proably be transferred to some little out-back hole for 2-years. From then on he'll probably be trading on thin ice in regards to his behaviour.


If he does indeed work for Fairfield LAC expect absolutely nothing to happen to him. Can have as many internal investigations as you want, in the end he'll probably get away with it.

Edited by sydneycroatia58: 6/3/2013 10:24:53 AM
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Someone posed an interesting question on twitter. If that police office was so willing to throw this guy face first into the concrete with cameras on him, makes you wonder what else he would've done if he weren't being filmed.
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notorganic wrote:
I cannot believe that people are defending these hired thugs.

And you pay for them with your taxes.


FTP right? You're so badass, I wish I was you :roll:
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benelsmore wrote:
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I cannot believe that people are defending these hired thugs.

And you pay for them with your taxes.


FTP right? You're so badass, I wish I was you :roll:


I never said anything of the kind.

I have also never said ACAB, Piggy Piggy or any other derogatory slander against the police.
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notorganic wrote:
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I cannot believe that people are defending these hired thugs.

And you pay for them with your taxes.


FTP right? You're so badass, I wish I was you :roll:


I never said anything of the kind.

I have also never said ACAB, Piggy Piggy or any other derogatory slander against the police.


Hired thugs?
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benelsmore wrote:
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I cannot believe that people are defending these hired thugs.

And you pay for them with your taxes.


FTP right? You're so badass, I wish I was you :roll:


I never said anything of the kind.

I have also never said ACAB, Piggy Piggy or any other derogatory slander against the police.


Hired thugs?


What else would you call someone that exerts unprovoked violence on someone that can't fight back - whilst on the job?

I probably should have been more specific - this officer is a hired thug, as are the officers that flex their power hard-on at the football. That's not tarring all police officers with the same brush.
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notorganic wrote:
benelsmore wrote:
notorganic wrote:
benelsmore wrote:
notorganic wrote:
I cannot believe that people are defending these hired thugs.

And you pay for them with your taxes.


FTP right? You're so badass, I wish I was you :roll:


I never said anything of the kind.

I have also never said ACAB, Piggy Piggy or any other derogatory slander against the police.


Hired thugs?


What else would you call someone that exerts unprovoked violence on someone that can't fight back - whilst on the job?

I probably should have been more specific - this officer is a hired thug, as are the officers that flex their power hard-on at the football. That's not tarring all police officers with the same brush.


I agree with you, thanks for the clarification.
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Heineken wrote:
From the footage, it definitely does look heavy handed, I'm not saying that the officer involved probably shouldn't have used that amount of force, but we don't know the events leading up to the filming.

Quite frankly, the amount of frustration Police have in dealing with drunken and drug fueled idiots weekend in weekend out, you're bound to get one or two loose eggs after a while.


This

People should check out the recent Four Corners on alcohol related violence and the constant shit that cops have to put up with. Its not a surprise that eventually someone loses their cool and does something like what we have seen in this video.

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Heineken wrote:
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From the footage, it definitely does look heavy handed, I'm not saying that the officer involved probably shouldn't have used that amount of force, but we don't know the events leading up to the filming.

Quite frankly, the amount of frustration Police have in dealing with drunken and drug fueled idiots weekend in weekend out, you're bound to get one or two loose eggs after a while.

I understand their frustration, but that's why they do years of training and are on sizeable salaries to do their job. They're trained to act with decorum, not pick on a skinny kid and throw him around like a rag doll. They've picked on this kid because they can get away with throwing around someone of his size. Someone larger and they might have got hurt back.

Actually NSW Police salaries are pretty low. Just higher than your average nurse. As the old saying goes, you don't join the Police for the $$$.

No, join it fort he power trip, clearly. The police working king's cross should be additionally trained in order to deal with the alcohol related violence so these kind of incidents don't happen.

And after reading Mr's response, all I can say is I hope he winds up on the end of a little bit of police brutality and see how he likes it.
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afromanGT wrote:
Heineken wrote:
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From the footage, it definitely does look heavy handed, I'm not saying that the officer involved probably shouldn't have used that amount of force, but we don't know the events leading up to the filming.

Quite frankly, the amount of frustration Police have in dealing with drunken and drug fueled idiots weekend in weekend out, you're bound to get one or two loose eggs after a while.

I understand their frustration, but that's why they do years of training and are on sizeable salaries to do their job. They're trained to act with decorum, not pick on a skinny kid and throw him around like a rag doll. They've picked on this kid because they can get away with throwing around someone of his size. Someone larger and they might have got hurt back.

Actually NSW Police salaries are pretty low. Just higher than your average nurse. As the old saying goes, you don't join the Police for the $$$.

No, join it fort he power trip, clearly. The police working king's cross should be additionally trained in order to deal with the alcohol related violence so these kind of incidents don't happen.

And after reading Mr's response, all I can say is I hope he winds up on the end of a little bit of police brutality and see how he likes it.


As usual this board shows the sense of Gen Y entitlement. I suscribe more the wider view - Behave like a c*nt, expect a consequence. That kid was off his face and a handful. Better he be on the ground than standing up.

And in my youth I've been in a few run-ins with police, particularly at student protests. But I knew my rights, and where they extended to.

That kid had no right to be resisting when already handcuffed. The police are within their rights to subdue him.
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As usual this board shows the sense of Gen Y entitlement. I suscribe more the wider view - Behave like a c*nt, expect a consequence. That kid was off his face and a handful. Better he be on the ground than standing up.

And in my youth I've been in a few run-ins with police, particularly at student protests. But I knew my rights, and where they extended to.

That kid had no right to be resisting when already handcuffed. The police are within their rights to subdue him.

How the fuck do you know that? You were there were you? You were the arresting officer I suppose. No, the kid was so inebriated he could hardly stand himself. Throwing him to the ground was entirely unnecessary, and with another 5 officers in the immediate vicinity COMPLETE AND TOTAL OVERKILL.

The police ARE within their rights to subdue him, however spilling his blood in the process is unacceptable and a vile disregard for his rights.
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As usual this board shows the sense of Gen Y entitlement. I suscribe more the wider view - Behave like a c*nt, expect a consequence. That kid was off his face and a handful. Better he be on the ground than standing up.

And in my youth I've been in a few run-ins with police, particularly at student protests. But I knew my rights, and where they extended to.

That kid had no right to be resisting when already handcuffed. The police are within their rights to subdue him.

How the fuck do you know that? You were there were you? You were the arresting officer I suppose. No, the kid was so inebriated he could hardly stand himself. Throwing him to the ground was entirely unnecessary, and with another 5 officers in the immediate vicinity COMPLETE AND TOTAL OVERKILL.

The police ARE within their rights to subdue him, however spilling his blood in the process is unacceptable and a vile disregard for his rights.


In the vid he is already handcuffed and carrying on. Yes or no?
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Mr wrote:


As usual this board shows the sense of Gen Y entitlement. I suscribe more the wider view - Behave like a c*nt, expect a consequence. That kid was off his face and a handful. Better he be on the ground than standing up.
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This applies to so much it's not funny. Kids these days are retarded.
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benelsmore, your stereotypical right wing voter :lol: :lol: :lol:
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In the vid he is already handcuffed and carrying on. Yes or no?

Exactly, he's HANDCUFFED and restrained. The kid is skinny, barely 5 foot tall and handcuffed. What part of you thinks "yeah, throw him to the ground multiple times, split his head open and then stand on him".
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There's no need for an independent investigation into the arrest of a young man at the Sydney Mardi Gras, Police Minister Mike Gallacher says.

A video has emerged of an 18-year-old man with a head wound being thrown to the ground by police while handcuffed during the festival celebrations on Saturday.
At least six officers were involved in his arrest.
The NSW Greens and a City of Sydney councillor have called for an independent inquiry into the matter, saying the investigation shouldn't be left to police.
Mr Gallacher says the NSW Ombudsman will review the incident and an additional investigation is not necessary.
"For anyone to suggest that the ombudsman is not independent, they're being very, very unfair," he told reporters in Sydney on Wednesday.

"I'm satisfied the ombudsman is independent, is truly independent of the NSW Police Force.
Mr Gallacher added that he had not received any complaints about excessive use of force or brutality by police at Mardi Gras.
As the area is "saturated" with CCTV cameras, there will be plenty of footage available to review and any judgment on police actions should wait until the investigation is complete, he said.
NSW Assistant Police Commissioner Mark Murdoch says the video only captures part of the incident and more will be revealed during an internal investigation.
"We have seen but one small part of what is clearly a much larger incident," Mr Murdoch told reporters in Sydney.
"What actually happened, the full circumstances, will be disclosed in time once our internal investigations and our criminal investigations in relation to both matters have run their course."
Mr Murdoch says another incident occurred within 30 minutes of the one captured on video.
"While we haven't received a complaint from either of the two people in the incidents there is a procedure for us to initiate our own inquiries, and we have done so," he said.
The officers involved remain on front line duties at their local area commands.
Mr Murdoch says the public does have a right to film events in a public area and comments heard from an officer in the footage suggesting otherwise are contrary to police policy.
"He will be taken aside and the policy will be reinforced to him," he said.
Premier Barry O'Farrell said the incident had put a damper on the event but he wasn't going to jump to conclusions without seeing what happened before the video began.
"We haven't seen what has preceded it," he told reporters in Sydney.
"I have been assured that the matter is being fully investigated by police ... and police have more oversight than any other organisation in NSW so I am confident that we will get to the bottom of what went on.
"Let's not pre-judge what we see."
Mr O'Farrell said Mardi Gras organisers had been happy with police involvement, overall.
"This incident, the allegations around it, obviously cast a pall over that but let's not pre-judge that, we haven't seen what led up to it."
"This inquiry must be public. It cannot happen behind closed doors," GetUp director Sam Mclean said in a statement on Wednesday.
"If people are to have any faith in the police, justice must be seen to be done."
Just after midday (AEDT) on Wednesday, 5208 people from across Australia had signed the petition, GetUp spokesman Rowan Wenn told AAP.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/03/06/03/01/nsw-police-accused-of-mardi-gras-brutality
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benelsmore, your stereotypical right wing voter :lol: :lol: :lol:


:-s I don't vote/donkey vote/vote for the most ridiculous party name.

I don't think i'm right wing I just hate people these days who think they can do what they want, like people who steal fuel and rob places. Its stupidity and they don't fear the consequences.
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benelsmore wrote:
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benelsmore, your stereotypical right wing voter :lol: :lol: :lol:


:-s I don't vote/donkey vote/vote for the most ridiculous party name.

I don't think i'm right wing I just hate people these days who think they can do what they want, like people who steal fuel and rob places. Its stupidity and they don't fear the consequences.

Actually I mucked up. A stereotypical right winger is also religious :lol: :lol: :lol:
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afromanGT wrote:
Heineken wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
Heineken wrote:
From the footage, it definitely does look heavy handed, I'm not saying that the officer involved probably shouldn't have used that amount of force, but we don't know the events leading up to the filming.

Quite frankly, the amount of frustration Police have in dealing with drunken and drug fueled idiots weekend in weekend out, you're bound to get one or two loose eggs after a while.

I understand their frustration, but that's why they do years of training and are on sizeable salaries to do their job. They're trained to act with decorum, not pick on a skinny kid and throw him around like a rag doll. They've picked on this kid because they can get away with throwing around someone of his size. Someone larger and they might have got hurt back.

Actually NSW Police salaries are pretty low. Just higher than your average nurse. As the old saying goes, you don't join the Police for the $$$.

No, join it fort he power trip, clearly. The police working king's cross should be additionally trained in order to deal with the alcohol related violence so these kind of incidents don't happen.

If you join the Police for the power trip; inevitably you're going to have a bad time, inevitably you're going to get caught out, pulled into an internal meeting with a high ranking officer, who will ask you to hand in your warrant card. Joining the Police force, you should have ambition of a bigger role than just a uniform putting motorists away for speeding. If you're walking around boasting about carrying a pistol, for that power trip, you shouldn't be in the force full stop.


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sydneycroatia58 wrote:
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It'll all just end with a slap on the wrist.

Doubt it. It's getting some pretty strong media attention already and the videos only been up for around 48 hours. The NSW Police Force have alredy initiated an internal investigation. I couldn't see the rank of the officer, but I'm going to guess he's nothing more than a Constable. He'll either be booted off the force, or be suspended for several; weeks (if he hasn't already) with reduced pay.

If he stays on the force and is found guilty of using indiscriminate force , he'll find it pretty difficult to move anywhere good. From what I've heard he works out of Fairfield LAC, so he'll proably be transferred to some little out-back hole for 2-years. From then on he'll probably be trading on thin ice in regards to his behaviour.


If he does indeed work for Fairfield LAC expect absolutely nothing to happen to him. Can have as many internal investigations as you want, in the end he'll probably get away with it.

Edited by sydneycroatia58: 6/3/2013 10:24:53 AM

What makes you say that? It won't be the Superintendent of Fairfield LAC organising the internal investigation, an incident that's garnered this much interest and publicity over the last 3 days, it's going right to the top. He'll have to front a hearing at the IAU (Internal Affairs Unit) and should he clear that - his record will be tarnished forever. He certainly won't be working out of Fairfield LAC for much longer, he'll be forceably transferred to the shittist LAC in the state. He'll probably end up in the Transport Command, arresting teenagers for not having a train ticket in Bankstown.

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If you join the Police for the power trip; inevitably you're going to have a bad time, inevitably you're going to get caught out, pulled into an internal meeting with a high ranking officer, who will ask you to hand in your warrant card. Joining the Police force, you should have ambition of a bigger role than just a uniform putting motorists away for speeding. If you're walking around boasting about carrying a pistol, for that power trip, you shouldn't be in the force full stop.

In an ideal world, yes. But this isn't an ideal world. What 'should' happen obviously hasn't happened or we wouldn't be discussing the police assaulting this young lad.
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