Just waiting for the FFV propaganda machine to come out and say they have had a terrific response from clubs applying to join the new league. I hope they back their statements by naming the clubs. If anyone on this forum is associated with any club, what will your club do?

Edited by Atlas: 24/4/2013 07:02:30 PM

Edited by Atlas: 24/4/2013 07:03:16 PM

There was 3 clubs interested 2 weeks ago, but 2 dropped interest when the hard copy of FFV imposed NPL details came out.:roll: :roll:

So are you putting your money where your mouth is, or what?

yep!!!

Brave soul.

I'm curious, what are the positive points about this plan in your mind?

Wouldn't mind a discussion on the pros and cons.

Well for starters, I get $500. That's pretty good.

I have found 3 clubs wanting to be a part of comp excluding victory and heart 3rds teams. 2 in VPL and 1 in divi 4 west division. Find another 7? or is it 9 for a 14 team comp. 1 club has over 500 supporters depending on opposition, 2nd club has 100 supporters or more depending on opposition, and 3rd club has 30 supporters and thats on a good day. For any of these NPL clubs in the Victorian equivalent to survive and make ends meet, their going to need 1500 supporters at a minimum to avoid bankruptcy at each home game. Il change the 2 VPL clubs to No VPL clubs interested in NPL anymore.Looking very good for Bayside federation.:-"

Edited by cro69: 28/4/2013 10:07:07 AM

Edited by cro69: 28/4/2013 06:25:00 PM

Heard the Surf Coast club is applying. Good luck to them and the whole concept.

Surf Coast, Box Hill ,Knox City, Berwick all have a total of 600 supporters :lol: :lol:

Oh stop it.

You're starting to sound like A-League wankers who harp on about crowds all the time.

-PB

paulbagzFC - What do you know about current climate in state football in Victoria???:-$

FFV also want each club to have a Director of Football figure to oversea the whole set-up.

Quality assessment of the financials involved though.

From another forum this is WA's NPL document;

http://www.footballwest.com.au/fileadmin/user_upload/NPL/Application_-_Final.pdf

Compare this to the conditions placed on Clubs in Victoria

Why cant ours in Victoria be that simple??? Bloody FFV all those people in contol of FFV need to be removed from there.

Ballarat Red Devils seek licence for National Premier Leagues

BALLARAT Red Devils have set their sights on the big time.

The Haymes Red Devils confirmed yesterday they will chase a licence in the soon-to-be-formed National Premier Leagues Victoria competition, an elite second-tier platform for Australian senior soccer to be established in each state by 2014.

Ballarat president James Winton said the club had been heading towards this opportunity for the past decade.

“Both the current and previous boards have moved the club to a position where we can launch a persuasive bid to be the region’s National Premier Leagues club,” Winton said.

“There is a real excitement around what we can achieve for the sport and we are fully committed to delivering this opportunity for football in the western region.”

Ballarat has called on experienced soccer administrator Andrew Burgess to chair the licence bid.

“I’m excited to be once again involved with the club and I look forward to working with a united board and corporate group to turn this vision into a reality,” Burgess said.

“Without doubt, securing a place in the NPLV will be a major step forward for not just the club but football generally in the region.”

Football Federation Victoria has described the NPLV as the ultimate league for aspiring talented players in the state.

“The powerhouse clubs of Victorian football have all expressed interest in securing a place. In less than 12 months, football fans in the region will see our junior, youth, women’s and men’s squads playing against the best of the best that this state can turn out,” Burgess said.

“Ballarat versus South Melbourne in Ballarat, at a new stadium, with a crowd of 2000 plus for Saturday night football. Now that is worth getting excited about.”

FFV will support clubs during the application process, with an announcement of those successful expected in early September.

Expressions of interest for the NPLV licence close on May 31.



http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/1485728/soccer-ballarat-red-devils-seek-licence-for-national-premier-leagues/?cs=63


Edited by imonfourfourtwo: 8/5/2013 08:13:25 AM

Edited by Arthur: 9/5/2013 08:36:06 AM

95% of VPL and State1 clubs about to desert FFV over their version of NPL. Secret meetings already underway about creating a summer comp of powerfull victorian clubs ( FACT ). This will be in direct competition to the A League. So unless the FFV dont change their version of NPL, then there going to lose a lot of revenue next coming season. This comp is already in advance stages and will be ready for kick off as early as late October this year.Refs in place, insurances done , constitution done. Do FFV still think the powerhouse clubs are kidding?

x5

NPL will be running next year, VPL teams would be foolish not to apply.

Unfortunately for those 95% - the highest profile and best equipped club is standing by the FFV & FFA and forging closer links with both bodies.

In the meantime, whilst the other 95% are shouting in public about the need to stand together and make a break-away, many of those clubs are still running around having private meetings with the FFV to see how best they can secure themselves a place in the NPL.

Good on Them

PRESS RELEASE
25.05.2013

Melbourne Knights FC posted on May 26, 2013 21:08 Article Rating

The Melbourne Knights Football Club Extraordinary General Meeting was held on Sunday 26th of May, where members were asked to decide on the future direction of the club. When asked the question regarding whether the Melbourne Knights should submit an ‘Expression of Interest’ for the National Premier League Victoria, due at the end of this month, members voted overwhelmingly against the question posed.

86% of Melbourne Knights Football Club financial members voted against submitting an ‘Expression of Interest’ for Football Federation Victoria new ‘elite’ framework, citing a number of serious concerns for the future of the game in this state. In deciding to withdraw from the National Premier League process, most members believe that the proposed Premier League does not have the club’s or, in fact, football’s best interests at heart.

With a youthful Senior Men’s team which comfortably adheres to the ‘Player Points’ outlined in the NPLV documentation, a commitment to Women’s participation, junior development and coaching excellence, as well as access to a privately owned purposed built Class A facility, the Melbourne Knights already meet many of the criteria for the proposed Premier League, scheduled to begin in 2014.

Despite the club’s apparent suitability for the NPLV, members expressed a number of concerns regarding the FFV’s untested vision and framework.
Members were concerned that the club would be forced to charge excessive fees in order to meet exorbitant operational costs, thus making the game or pathway accessible to only those who could afford it. Members questioned the enormous financial strain imposed upon clubs with little to no support from any of the country’s football governing bodies.

Members had issue with the proposed level of control of National Premier League clubs, citing concerns for the lack of self determination available to clubs under the new guidelines. Particularly with regards to ownership of the club’s intellectual property.

When members were made aware of the fact that the NPLV is touted to provide a new ‘Australian National B League’, some expressed sceptiscm with regards to claims that a successful applicant club would have access to a pathway to be promoted to the highest level, many believing that the NPLV model cripples clubs to ensure that they would not be a viable candidate for A-League competition.
Finally, members were made aware of the lack of consultation which has occurred in the lead up to the development of the criteria.

The Melbourne Knights believe that the governing body’s failure to engage with many of its key stakeholders has resulted in clubs potentially submitting expressions of interest or, indeed, applications, in order to avoid being ‘left behind’, rather than in anticipation of a new and exciting direction for football in this state – many club administrators believing that they will be offered an ‘eleventh hour’ opportunity to negotiate changes to the fundamentally flawed framework.

In their 60 year history, the Melbourne Knights Football Club have unearthed and produced an enormous number of players who have gone on to compete at various levels of the sport and represent the state and country in countless representative teams. Regardless of where the Melbourne Knights are pushed to fit or fall within the framework of football in this country, the club will continue to nurture young talent and revere excellence for many years to come.

The Melbourne Knights will continue with its tried and proven methodology with regards to club excellence in all regards, servicing players of all ages and abilities, as well as our most important key stakeholders, our members and supporters.

The Melbourne Knights calls upon the Football Federation Victoria to immediately release the criteria for the so-called ‘community leagues’ so that the club, and other clubs like it, may prepare to the fullest for the 2014 season.


Edited by cro69: 26/5/2013 10:07:17 PM

Good luck to the Melbourne Knights I admire their members stance on this issue.

Will be interesting to see how members of other clubs will react when and if it goes to EGM's for approval.

I know about the current state of State based competitions and crowds are the be all and end all.

That and 600 odd supporters for such teams is good at this point in time.

-PB

NPLV definitely sounds infinitely more difficult to be a part then NPLQ.

Thought this competition was meant to be regulated Nation wide via the FFA?

-PB

PB the basic framework was established by the FFA and the state federations have scope to make additional requirements or entry conditions.

The FFV has a beauracratic view and ideology completley out of sink with its constituancy.

It is set on creating a competition based on "delivery of services" those services being a regionalised competition so new markets can sample second tier football, delivery of standardised coaching so juniors don't need to change clubs, delivery of rebranded clubs to make the second tier more presentable to community and media, more stringent club governance procedures.

You know the sort of things beauracracies put on paper that sound really fantastic but in reality are undeliverable, uncosted and rely on some one else to do all the work.

whats souths stand on the whole NPLV?

Bent down on their knees I believe....

http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?c=1-8679-132747-0-0&sID=282214


I'm not particularly a big fan of the name but the colours look pretty nice as black and gold.

It's going to interesting in 4 days what teams will be picked