http://www.theage.com.au/national/education/fourth-study-this-year-confirms-private-schools-no-better-than-public-20141109-11jlgn.html

^ Thats what I keep saying

While the line is fairly obvious when youre a student at Sydney University, UNSW vs a student from UWS

HOWEVER (!) :shock: It goes further than that! Sydney University is fragmented! Especially when you have College Students and Private School kids against the 'commoners'/ peasantry, the college students are the ones walking around with their hubris, thinking that the world owes them something. And just because school's out, doesnt mean we're equal [-( Ie the private school students function differently, they exist in a world where money doesnt exist, have you heard that term: "Youre money is no good to us here"? Well, welcome to the world of fraternities and sororities!

C/o - The product of public schooling...

PS if you really want to start a fight over the class system of Australia (because we dont have kings and queens - exclusive to Australia, only 'commoners'), you can start a fight over which students are public school and private school students

I was a private school kid, and I wouldn't have traded that for the world.

I just found out that my area (semi-rural) get's me into Uni Melbourne courses for 10 ATAR less than the actual minimum entry :lol:

Did you get into your first preference?

Yeah I did. Bachelor of Science with a 79.3 ATAR :lol:

What course are you doing 433?

Damn holy shit :shock: :lol: :lol:

Looking at commerce Melb (no I'm not chinese :lol: ), it's 95 or something but according to the SEAS thing I can get in for a 88, which is achievable I think.

88 is definitely achievable. I dropped off horribly towards the end of the year and during exams and I got in to Melbourne Uni.

Didn't you go Melb High?

Westbourne Grammar. I really wish I had went to the public school near my area.

The Selec. school in Werribee?

If you'd had I would've seen you there :lol:

I did a commerce subject or two as an elective at UoM and found it to be much less Asian dominated than you'd imagine, in fact I remember one class in particular was practically all white. Although I did go for the easiest one I could find so it was probably just too basic for them.

That's a huge downside of going to Melbourne though, they force you to pick a couple of subjects outside of your field of study which is a c*nt of a thing when you have limited interests outside that field and/or don't want to pay fees for subjects you'd ordinarily have no interest in. The other major draw back is how fucking pretentious most of your class mates are.

Do the extra classes count towards your GPA even though they aren't related to your course?



:lol:

You go to Westbourne?

No, I'm saying that I'd have seen you if you went to the Selective school in Werribee.

Yes, unfortunately your breadth subjects do count towards your GPA/WAM.

Although, for argument's sake, just say you did Commerce and then didn't do so great in your breadth subject. Supposing you wanted to do a Master's of Finance, after you graduate. I don't think they'd care too much if you'd done poorly in, say, German.

Also there are some subjects, which fall outside a faculty, but might as well be in it. E.g. some of them are basically arts subjects but aren't part of the arts faculty, so can be taken as breadth by arts students.

I can't speak for internationally. But within Aus, you can usually transfer credit. It can be a bit of a bureaucratic headache, but it can usually be done.

Actually, I do know quite a number of people who have done their degree in Aus, but done a semester abroad (usually Canada, but sometimes US, UK or Sweden). They have gotten credit for subjects they studied overseas. In terms of overseas universities feeling that way, it probably varies.

It would also depend somewhat on what you're studying. If it's highly technical and built on lots of sequential learning (like engineering or medicine), then I'd imagine the faculty/university might be a bit unwilling to give credit because they would have their own high standards. However if you're doing something like arts or commerce, it would seem to me more likely they'd give you credit.

Completely disagree. Hats off to those no-hopers. I took a leave of absence to work overseas and travel. And I underload. It means I can save more money while (sometimes) getting reasonable marks. It should also mean I don't have an excuse for not playing club football.

I'm not a fan of the rigid structure to UK/US (and a lesser extent Australian) degrees whereby there's a lot of pressure to start uni as soon as you finish high school and to finish your degree ASAP. If you want to do that, you're most welcome to do that. You'll be earning a lot more money than me a lot quicker. But that's a life choice. I'm a real fan of my Scandinavian friends' study set-up. They finish high school. Then they work really hard, save heaps of money and do heaps of travel. For at least one year, sometimes like five years. Then, when they're a bit more mature, they start uni. Not all of them do it that way, but a heck of a lot it seems to me.

But then again, my goal is to become a househusband/stay-at-home-dad. So that might be why I have a fairly relaxed outlook.

Farkin' oath!! Favourite are the law students who wear suits to university and have glammed up linkedin accounts. They need to be slapped.

Yep, med students are the same.

-PB

Does your medical background help with that deep fried fish? ;)

business degrees are like arts degrees for arseholes. i cant imagine a worse bunch of people to be stuck with for 4 years. med students and law students might have serious ego issues, but it cant match the bleak corruption of a money based degree.

Griffith Uni in QLD is the same, they make you do pointless subjects to broaden your skills. I was getting so fucked by engineering I did a history course which meant reading Chaucer's Canterbury Tales in old English................

Have you ever met Electrical Engineers? They're complete cocks of the highest order.

A heck of a lot of law students are just as hungry for money as business students. Lots of law students go into commercial law or finance, which is all about the money. For every Julian Burnside or Sir Ninian Stephen, there must be at least a dozen who just want to clean up as much cash as possible. Although, I'm not doing a law degree, so can't say that for sure.

At least with medicine, there should be a higher level of empathy and humility. Quite a few people in my family are doctors and they all have those qualities. But even still lots of med students/doctors are totally up themselves and/or obsessed with making as much money as possible. You'd just hope the numbers aren't as bad as you find with lawyers and business people.

What I do find with these people who try and push into everyone's face how prestigious their degree is and how much money they're making, it's because they have big insecurities elsewhere. Often they never had a social life. They try and make themselves feel better by focusing on how good their career (purportedly) is.

that kind of self selling narcissism is considered a positive in the business world. it certainly attracts a particular breed.

what shits me is the people that study management - which is a pretty shitty and easy degree (3 vague years) - are often streamed into management jobs ahead of much more capable people that have specialised in the field of the organisation.

i know it sounds dumb to complain about management students getting management jobs. but its not as dumb as a lot of management students.

rant out.

Alright guys, so I was about to graduate from uni in about a months time but today I received a letter form my uni inviting me into the Honours program. (which means another year at uni :shock: )Given that I have nothing lined up for when I was going to graduate I guess I'd be better off doing this as well. I assume a few of you guys have done this before, what's it like?

Depends what you're studying. I know at Uni of Newcastle they offer Honours just for enrolling as some sort of research year though which didn't sound all that fantastic (I already had something lined up anyway).

I finished my Bachelor in Commerce (Systems Management) last year, doing a Professional Certificate this year and smashing out a Master of Professional Accounting before doing a CA all because my boss has offered me a job in the high 6 figures at the big 4 if I go down that road.

Was always going to do it but never thought I would be rushing through it like this

I'm writing an essay on the Northern Irish peace process. Imo, highly interesting stuff. But it's a bitch of an essay. I'm furious with myself because I've had to reframe the whole thing and thereby wasted a couple of days. Initially, I think my essay showed I grasped the subject quite well and made a good argument. The trouble was that I wasn't adequately addressing the question. So now I'm tinkering with it in such a way that it directly responds to the wording of the question.

Urghhh. I guess when you hit a roadblock and spend a couple of days not knowing how to say what you want to say, it's sometimes because you're not answering the question properly.

Private Schools are becoming an Anglo Ghetto

^ You dont say!

Meanwhile should I take the train, or not? :-k

Private school was awesome!

Couldn't pay me enough to have done public school.