Justify your opinion with reference to 5 sources

I'm not doing 5 sources haha. It's stable, it has a fast career progression. It's boring. Audits are stressful.

The average salary of essentially every single qualified accountant job in Australia is above the national average of all incomes.

Accountant salary guide.
Average weekly incomes of full time employees.

If you find you don't like it after you graduate - well, big deal, you are an accountant - you can always go back to being an accountant if you decide to try something else.

What's an MPA? And what's your background? Do you like accounting?

Started with a B.Comm majoring in accounting, got a job in the Superannuation industry (SMSFs mainly), found studying accounting boring af so switched to IT.

Graduated that and became the resident computer/software guy in accounting offices for the past 6 years now alongside being a registered SMSF Auditor.

Basically deciding whether I should go down the Accounting route again, as I will need the Master of Professional Accounting to transition into becoming a CA (probably 4 years of study) or rethink my life and study something more fun.

Draups good point re: salary. You earn some decent coin that's for sure

Do whatever you can sustain for x amount of years in study/work/whatever with your current life/family/etc situation, and do a career that you go to work and walk out each day with either a smile on your face or at the very least a tolerating face, and can talk about your work day with some form of enthusiasm to your family etc afterwards. The moment you get in a job you despise going to, crave every second to come home from and basically refuse to talk about afterwards to your family because you just can't stand thinking about the place for one more second - that's the time you've gotta make a change.

Edited by pv4: 8/3/2016 08:39:41 AM

Definitely. I did this about 6 months ago realising commuting 4 hours a day to get my arse handed to me for not staying back long enough in a Big 4 wasn't my idea of a career, especially with a baby.

Enjoy my job now, earning the same amount as I was in Sydney but 20 minutes from my house. Probably just need to suck it up and formalise my learning through these qualifications.

You're right it may come down to juggling work/life so part time distance study will probably be the way to go.

Should try and find something online to study up on with the Arts. Wonder if there's a Music History major out there somewhere

Edited by redshirtwilly: 8/3/2016 08:52:11 AM

:lol:

I get HECS/HELP. But they changed the rules 3-4 years do you have to do 1 subject in Australia (of the entire course).
So next semester is my last semester. The stupid thing is because I study online I don't need to go to Towoomba or Springfield, I just need to physically be in Australia.

This has worked out ok as my wife will be on maternity leave for the time but still... It costs me plane tickets.

Beautiful sunny day and I am at my desk doing CGT and repair problems for revenue law.

#stickingittotheman

So need a bit of help here lads. I've had to make the decision to go back to Melbourne asap, which means I need to pretty urgently consider which Uni's suit me and then apply for a transfer to for a Sem 2 intake.

I'm currently doing Commerce/Arts (Majoring in German and International Relations) but will be looking to transfer into just Arts to finish quicker (will try to get credit for my completed Commerce subjects to fill out any electives).

Anyone had experience with the process of doing this, especially with a Sem 2 intake? I haven't the faintest how it all works. Would also appreciate any advice on the Uni's themselves. I've looked at all of them but so far Monash is looking like a good option.

Edited by melbourne_terrace: 23/5/2016 02:16:34 PM

Depends on Uni. Some Uni's just recognise the course and give you a pass mark. I'd check up with what Monash does as a policy. You don't want to have a shit WAM when graduating.

Cheers, I'm actually looking ok with my credit side. Made several calls to Monash, Melbourne and RMIT and they have all told me that most of my stuff is likely to be accepted. Anyone here done Arts at those three? Would have added Deakin, LaTrobe and Swinburne to the list but they seem to teach every language except German (Including fucking Greek ](*,) )

Also does anyone know what the go are with the two Monash campuses? It seems that you apply for either Caufield or Clayton but you can go to classes at both.....

melbourne_terrace

I'm Melbourne-based and reasonably familiar with some of the universities. Final year BA student (assuming I don't do honours).

Are you familiar with the "Melbourne Model?" Melbourne don't offer double degrees. Although some majors can be completed as both Arts majors or Commerce majors.

You say you're switching to just Arts on its own, so this mightn't be any drama for you anyway.

You can do, if memory serves, around 8 units of breadth at Melbourne. I don't know how many commerce units you've done so far. But presumably they could be counted towards breadth.

I'm not sure what the go is as regards getting credit and the appropriate marks if you did that. Hopefully, it's seamless.

Melbourne offer majors in German and they offer politics. I don't know if they offer an international relations major. I was under the impression that it was a kind of politics major. Although I may well be wrong on that.

Again, I can't say for sure, but you'd hope the German units would just be ticked off as equivalent. Politics, if that's what international relations falls into, might present a few more difficulties. Melbourne is a right nightmare when it comes to mandatory subjects. And I gather politics has at least a couple. I daresay you could do these just fine. But it's just annoying that you get less freedom of movement in terms of subject selection.

Monash is a good option, too. It might offer more flexibility. Although if both your majors are in the Arts faculty, you might not be able to do both if you wanted to do a double degree. I'd imagine there'd be no dramas if you were just doing an Arts degree. But again, I'm not sure.

As for Clayton or Caulfield. Different subjects are taught at different campuses. I was under the impression more are taught at Clayton.

My mate transferred over to Arts at Melbourne from Law/Journalism (I think) at La Trobe this year and what you're saying is probably correct. Most of his law subjects ended up becoming breadth subjects, and he did have to do a compulsory subject or two iirc. The worst thing imo is that all his level 1 breadths were taken up which can be done in your final year for boosting your GPA/WAM.

Thinking of enrolling into uni again. Looking at construction managment. Swinburne, vu look the goods.any one know others that do it?

That was excellent and extremely helpful. Thank You. =d>

Yes I'm familiar with the Melbourne Model. I'm dropping my Commerce component so it shouldn't be a problem. I'll go back to that later in life if need be but right now I'm more concerned with just finishing my Arts Degree.

Melbourne's German major seems quite comprehensive and with any luck it would be considered comparable. The "Breadth" component is somewhat unclear to me, are they simply electives or are they a series of related subjects from a different faculty?

You're correct though that Melbourne doesn't do IR, they offer Politics and International Studies which is similar but different. I'm was expecting to have to redo my International Relations component anyway though as they can vary largely between institutions.

But the good thing is that bog standard entry commerce classes like Introductory Microeconomics and Statistics would be the largely same at any Uni in the world. :lol: I've completed at least 12 of those so they should hopefully fill out all the extra stuff outside of my Majors.

In my case, Monash is pretty much the same deal as Melbourne's offering except they have more general electives instead of Arts Foundation + Breadth.

Breadth subjects are subjects that are outside of your course. For some people this is a chance to explore other interests, for others it's a useless part of the course.

You seem to have the measure of it.

As mentioned above, breadth are just subjects that aren't part of your course (so the subjects aren't run by the faculty managing your course). So, if you're doing Arts, then breadth is anything in the Commerce faculty, etc.

If you're an Arts student, economics can be done as breadth. However, I gather, it can also be done as a major (economics is run by the Commerce faculty but it can also be considered part of the Arts faculty).

There are also subjects which can be done as breadth subjects regardless of what your faculty is. This is because the subjects, strictly speaking, do not fall into any of the faculties which offer undergraduate degrees.

So, for instance, you can do breath subjects offered by the law school (not part of a law degree), etc. Basically, there are some subjects which aren't part of the Arts faculty (and therefore considered breadth for Arts students) but which are basically Arts subjects. These are handy for Arts students who don't want to do anything too radically different from Arts.

You have to do a minimum 6 breadth subjects. And I gather you can do as many as 8 breadth subjects.

All subjects are classified as 1st year, 2nd year, 3rd year, etc. You have to do however many 1st year breadth subjects, however many 2nd year breadth subjects and however many 3rd year breadth subjects. I can't recall how many of each it is with certainty.

If all the commerce units you've done cover the equivalent of those levels, then you should be right. However, if there are gaps, you may need to do a, say, second year breadth subject.

There's a handbook which lists all the subjects which are university breadth subjects.

You were spot on about Arts foundation/interdisciplinary subjects. I forgot all about them. If you do Arts at Melbourne, I'd imagine you'd have to do mandatory subjects for that. But probably not too many of them.

Also, Melbourne offers summer and winter intensive subjects. Some run in Melbourne, others run abroad (which could be interesting if you want to travel and you're cashed up enough).

Edited by quickflick: 24/5/2016 11:49:26 PM

RMIT does it, plus its right in the cbd so very convenient to catch the train to.

@quickflick Not sure about the other courses, but in my science course, we have to do 4 breadth subjects plus a choice between 2 breadths or 2 subjects within the faculty. There's a limit of 3 level 1 breadths and there is no limit on the amount of level 2 or 3 breadths, but you must do at least one of either level 2 or 3. So I can completely avoid doing a level 3 breadth.

Edited by "9GABmeme420": 25/5/2016 09:53:15 AM

VU would be closer. I transferred from La Trobe.

Ill look into v.u , iirc the werribee campus does it, ill go past on my way home

Question for all you seasoned students
what advice can you offer a new potential student ?
Ive been supported by work to begin MBA studies , and considering ive never been to uni before ,am concerned around the whole essay writing process.
been through the tafe systems years ago , but found that easy ( basically it was questions which needed scenario answers )
not asking anyone to do my assignments ( although our project manager told me she did this once as she had a newborn and was struggling a bit )
just need advice on the best way to do this
I'm hoping after the first couple of essays , I will be confident to tackle these myself as long as I'm dedicated to the lectures and doing the right amount of reading

I started Uni after about 15 years working and had similar issues. At first I was going to go a double degree, so a first year communications subject was very useful. It helped that my wife used to teach high school, but the subject , although basic, makes you think about things differently and/or break old/bad habits. Just make sure every sentence has "value" and back statements up with references.

Edited by scott21: 26/5/2016 09:03:20 PM

Are VU and Swinbourne degrees or diplomas?
It may be wrong but I've heard amongst the industry that RMIT in the city is the more highly regarded degree and Deakin in Geelong are a second.

Something that a potential employer could look at when you apply perhaps

Have to do the course part time and or online due to the fact my family commitments are the main priorities.
Also wonder why you had to say rmit course was superior ; -)

Edited by Mvfcarsenal16.8: 26/5/2016 10:50:43 PM

Edited by Mvfcarsenal16.8: 26/5/2016 10:51:04 PM

working full time and family ,,,, how does one do it ?

You might be right about that applying all around. I've actually forgot how many breadth subjects I've done. But I'm fairly sure I've done enough. I might have it wrong and it might be just the 4 for BA.

I'm considering doing a winter intensive subject. It goes against my ethos of doing fuck all in the winter holidays (except watching sport, eating and sleeping). But might be an idea and there's one about the first few centuries of Islam that looks interesting (as I'm not well-versed on that at all).

433, what course did you end up doing? I seem to recall you were keen on dentistry or something rather specific in health sciences.