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What I've always wondered is did Jesus fart in social settings?
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ozboy wrote:
What I've always wondered is did Jesus fart in social settings?


Ok, I think it's time for a new topic :lol:
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ozboy wrote:
What I've always wondered is did Jesus fart in social settings?

Lets face it, the bloke knew how to party. 12 enormous jars of water into wine, was capable or putting on a feed for a few thousand people and had hundreds of people following him around no matter what city he went to... Pretty sure he would have ripped a few in his time :lol:
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Clearly he turned his farts into perfume smells before anyone could notice

Or he was crucified for his farts?
So many options.
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I had a patron at work the other weekend proclaim loudly to nobody in particular after purchasing a schooner of VB proclaim that said beverage was the 'nectar of the gods' and that Jesus didn't turn water into wine, he turned it into the "angelic amber nectar that is Victorian Bitter".

Quick as a flash, one of the hardened locals sitting at the other side of the bar (drinking Coopers Pale Ale) piped up, "Well, no wonder the Romans fuckin' crucified him!"

Lost my shit. :lol:

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http://planetivy.co.uk/offbeat/52494/spanking-in-the-name-of-god/

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Ever thought a marriage set strictly within the boundaries of Christian scripture sounded a bit dry? Think again. Christian Domestic Discipline (CDD) is the practice of ensuring a Christian relationship is being conducted exactly the way God demands in the scripture: namely through a husband spanking his wife’s naked posterior when she gets unruly.

When you can get the image of Ned and Maude Flanders in a compromising position out of your dirty little mind, it is important to note that CDD is apparently quite the craze within the bible-bashing community. But what is it? Is it a form of BDSM? A bit of kinky fun in the name of God? Or is there something a bit more sinister going on here?

Websites and forums abound, teaching you how to spank your wife in a controlled manner, with huge numbers of articles on the hows and the whys, aimed at both the plank-wielding husband, and the wife with the sore behind. The first thing to note is that the spanking is done solely by the man. Women are expected to take their ‘punishment’ and learn to be totally submissive to the man of the household, who is merely trying to correct her behaviour in the eyes of God.

Whilst this sounds somewhat abusive, it is supposedly framed in a context of Christian love, and perhaps naturally, sex (although this is not generally specifically promoted in the literature). The spanker should never act in anger, according to this guide for beginners, and especially given the bulk of spankees blogging about their positive experience with CDD, it is supposed to be strictly consensual.

How not to do it: NFL player set to avoid jail, spanks his attorney, gets jailed

Broadly speaking this kind of ‘domestic discipline’ is obviously not only limited to Christian couples. The Christian framework that explains the practice does however mean that the vast majority of those involved will be highly religious. Some of the Good Book’s greatest misogynistic hits adorn the CDD guides such as: “Ephesians 5:21-27 – Be in subjection to one another in reverence for Christ; wives, to your own husbands, as to the Lord, our Owner. For a husband is lord and master of the wife, in the exact same manner as Christ likewise is Lord and Master of the Church.” And the spanking is reasoned with nuggets of old school wisdom such as: “Proverbs 26:3 – A whip is for the horse, a bridle for the donkey, and a rod for the back of fools.”

It all sounds pretty worrying. Are these women being subjected to cruelty? The idea of a woman being totally submissive to the “lord and master of the wife” and being subjected to physical discipline as a punishment tool sounds downright wrong to a secular observer. However, the problem with trying to understand it from a secular point of view is that if the spankees truly are hard-core believers in the word of the Bible, they may very well see the practice as a healthy and even necessary means of conducting a Christian marriage in the eyes of God. They may be completely happy to subject themselves to their husband’s will, in the same way that a Muslim lady might have no qualms with spending her whole public life under the veil of the Niqab.

Or perhaps it’s just Christians trying to find a way to act out a pretty standard modern day fetish without wanting to appear to be giving in to their wilder, more perverted impulses. After all, the guides really delve into the minutiae of Christian scripture with regards to the relationship between husband and wife. It looks like an attempt to justify some kinky bare-bottomed spanking to Jesus, whereas secular folk who are that way inclined would just do it because they wanted to.

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Eastern Glory wrote:
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Clearly he turned his farts into perfume smells before anyone could notice

Or he was crucified for his farts?
So many options.

I dunno about everyone else, but italian food can make me pretty gassy sometimes.
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If Jesus had a middle eastern diet his flatulence would have been epic.
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Heineken wrote:
I had a patron at work the other weekend proclaim loudly to nobody in particular after purchasing a schooner of VB proclaim that said beverage was the 'nectar of the gods' and that Jesus didn't turn water into wine, he turned it into the "angelic amber nectar that is Victorian Bitter".

Quick as a flash, one of the hardened locals sitting at the other side of the bar (drinking Coopers Pale Ale) piped up, "Well, no wonder the Romans fuckin' crucified him!"

Lost my shit. :lol:


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That's gold, that being said I reckon I'd rather a VB than a Coopers tbh.
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Racism is a Tough Sell: The Real Reason Everyone Dumped Paula Deen
by Daniel Gross Jun 28, 2013 4:45 AM EDT
In business, it’s okay to be a sexist, a felon, or an adulterer. But a racist? Uh uh—especially if your brand has a national reach. Daniel Gross on Paula Deen’s swift fall.
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Paula Deen has come undone.


Paula Deen appears on NBC News' "Today" show, June 26, 2013. (Peter Kramer/NBC/NBC NewsWire via Getty)

First came details of a lawsuit in which a former employee alleged racial insensitivity on the part of Deen. Then came her amateurish, tentative apologies on Youtube. A mawkish attempt at self-exculpation in an interview on the Today Show with Matt Lauer didn’t go much better.

Instantly, a bevy of Fortune 500 companies that were more than happy to do business with Deen, have dropped her like a hot (sweet) potato. The sharp and swift fall makes for a concise case study on the impact of reputation on a personal brand.

Deen may have been known to most laypeople as a television chef and cookbook author. But the beauty of today’s world is that you can quickly leverage fame gained in one arena into others. She had a show on the Food Network, restaurants, a line of cookware sold in Walmart, Home Depot, Target, and other stores, cookbooks, an endorsement deal with the pork giant Smithfield. Deen was also able to mine commercial gold out of self-inflicted wounds. Critics had long warned that a diet larded with lard, pork, butter, cream, and sugar could lead to diabetes. Lo and behold, after Deen revealed that she had diabetes, she signed a deal with pharmaceutical firm Novo Nordisk to help promote a diabetes drug.

Within a week, all of it—well, almost all of it—has melted away. Giant corporations that were happy to plaster Deen’s face on their products and stock their goods in their store have run away. Political correctness run amok? No. It illustrates a larger truth. In 2013, no national brand, in any industry, can afford to have an association with a person who expresses racial animus, or who taints a company with the stain of racial animus. It’s just not acceptable. It is okay for endorsers and business partners to be gamblers (Michael Jordan), convicted felons (Martha Stewart), or adulterers (too many to name). The commercial culture will tolerate multiple divorces, trips to rehab, and all sorts of boorish behavior. You can even recommend that people eat really unhealthful diets. But the hint of racism is simply a deal-killer. No questions asked.

Of course, companies will be more likely to stick with an employee, or a business partner, if they are minting money. Over his long career, Rush Limbaugh has suffered astonishingly little blowback for off-color remarks. (It was sexism that got him into the most trouble with advertisers). But in Deen’s case, her ratings at the Food Network were already slipping. Deen’s show had been running for 11 years (a close approximation of the life expectancy of people who subsist solely on her cuisine), which is an extremely long time. But as The Wall Street Journal reported, Deen’s show was slipping: “Ratings for Ms. Deen’s show “Paula’s Best Dishes” were down 15% in total viewers—and 22% in the 18-49 demographic that advertisers care most about—for the 2012-13 season, compared with last season, according to Nielsen ratings provided by Horizon Media.”

The other companies to jettison Deen were more interested in their image than the bottom line. Every company has official statements, codes of conducts, and principles that bar their employees from using the type of language that Deen allegedly did in the workplace.

Deen didn’t have big exclusive deals with department stores, the way Martha Stewart does. Rather, she put her name on kitchen products that were sold in a wide range of stores. As of this week, they are sold in a narrow range of stores.

Walmart issued a terse statement on Wednesday. “We are ending our relationship with Paula Deen Enterprises and we will not place new orders beyond those already committed.” You can still get her dinnerware and other products at Walmart.com.


Here’s your checklist of former Paula Deen sponsors who have cut ties with the embattled celebrity chef.
On the one hand, Deen was a perfect fit with Walmart, which remains a down-scale, predominantly southern company. But Walmart has been trying to branch out of its blue-state base for years. With domestic sales stagnating, its only prospect for growth in the U.S. is in markets where it has generally been under-represented: urban areas, places like Chicago and New York that house large minority populations. Walmart’s culture—low wages, a pathological hostility to unions—has posed a major stumbling to the company as it seeks to break in to diverse areas like New York. So any negative press surrounding race relations is particularly toxic for Walmart.

Target, which cultivates an inclusive, hip image, likewise found the comments attributed to Deen unacceptable. It announced that it won’t order any more Paula Deen cookware and dinnerware products once its existing stocks are sold out. Home Depot, based in Atlanta, the city famously too busy to hate, went a step further – it took the products off its website entirely.

It seems unlikely that Smithfield, the pork giant that had put Deen’s face on hams, would have been the target of boycotts had it continued to do business with the chef. But Smithfield, which recently agreed to be acquired by a Chinese company, has become controversial. It needs friendly treatment in Washington and media as it shoots the rapids. The less public noise surrounding the company, the better. And so it jettisoned her. “Smithfield condemns the use of offensive and discriminatory language and behavior of any kind. Therefore, we are terminating our partnership with Paula Deen,” the company told CNBC on Monday.

On Thursday, QVC took a notably softer stance, announcing it was “taking a pause” from Deen, not just for the sake of the company but for “Paula to concentrate on responding to the allegations against her and on her path forward.” While she’s doing that, QVC will be “phasing out” her products and she won’t be appearing on any TV broadcasts. President and CEO Mike George concluded this wasn’t necessarily a “forever decision” because, after all, “people deserve second chances.”

While companies based in the southern U.S. have been quick to convict and sentence Deen, a Danish company that Deen works with was much more tolerant and forgiving. Novo Nordisk, whose diabetes drug Victoza Deen promotes, at first said it would reserve judgment on Deen “while she takes a more proactive approach to clearing up her comments.” Then on Thursday, it suspended the partnership.

Of course, none of this means that Deen is finished entirely. It just means that she can no longer be a national brand. Defenders of Deen note that she comes from a particular time and place. To condemn her for her language and attitudes is to condemn the huge number of white people who grew up in the segregated south and used the same type of language that their friends and parents did. And it is indeed true that we continue to make concessions to southerners of a certain age. The fact that Rick Perry had a camp with an offensive name didn’t stop him from becoming governor of Texas. Haley Barbour’s willful blindness to the nastiness of segregation in the 1960s didn’t preclude him from heading the Republican National Committee. And I would love if it some reporter started quizzing elderly southern officeholders—say, Jefferson Sessions of Alabama—as to whether they’ve ever used racially insensitive language in their lifetimes.

But here’s the deal. Even today, what is acceptable in one part of the country is unacceptable in another. And it is definitely the case that a history of racial insensitivity – especially a recent history of racial insensitivity – can stop you from being a national public figure. So Deen is commercially viable, just not on the national stage. To survive, she’ll have to revert to being a niche figure. You can prosper and remain rich by appealing to a small sliver of America’s vast population. And there is every sign that she’s capable of pulling that off.

Fans, including some African-American ones, are still lining up at her Savannah restaurant. Her next book, co-written with New York Times columnist Melissa Clark, and published by Ballantine Books, Paula Deen’s New Testament: 250 Favorite Recipes, All Lightened Up. is already #1 on Amazon.com. And in Albany, Georgia, plans to open a Paula Deen museum are moving ahead.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/28/racism-is-a-tough-sell-the-real-reason-everyone-dumped-paula-deen.html?
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Time for a change of subject!
My mate just raised this issue on Facebook after re-watching the Harry Potter series.

'It's a safe assumption to make, that the majority of heterosexual males find Emma Watson hot. When watching the Harry Potter series, at what point is it okay to be attracted to the Hermoine character?'
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Tough call, IIRC she started showing potential around the third movie and then grew up pretty quickly after that, I'm a year or two younger though I think so I suppose it's not that creepy from my perspective.
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Eastern Glory wrote:
Time for a change of subject!
My mate just raised this issue on Facebook after re-watching the Harry Potter series.

'It's a safe assumption to make, that the majority of heterosexual males find Emma Watson hot. When watching the Harry Potter series, at what point is it okay to be attracted to the Hermoine character?'


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Tough call, IIRC she started showing potential around the third movie and then grew up pretty quickly after that, I'm a year or two younger though I think so I suppose it's not that creepy from my perspective.

For a bit of perspective:
1st movie: Age 11
2nd movie: Age 12
3rd movie: Age 14
4th movie: Age 15
5th movie: Age 17
6th movie: Age 19
7th movie: Age 20
8th movie: Age 21

I agree that around the 3rd movie you could tell she was going to be an attractive girl, but it's that 4th/5th movie area that I find particularly interesting, and I'd love to hear some honest answers :lol:
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1st movie 8-[


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Yule Ball scene in Goblet of Fire. Dayum
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Eastern Glory wrote:
Fredsta wrote:
Tough call, IIRC she started showing potential around the third movie and then grew up pretty quickly after that, I'm a year or two younger though I think so I suppose it's not that creepy from my perspective.

For a bit of perspective:
1st movie: Age 11
2nd movie: Age 12
3rd movie: Age 14
4th movie: Age 15
5th movie: Age 17
6th movie: Age 19
7th movie: Age 20
8th movie: Age 21

I agree that around the 3rd movie you could tell she was going to be an attractive girl, but it's that 4th/5th movie area that I find particularly interesting, and I'd love to hear some honest answers :lol:

I'd love to be there for when they fired some of the minor actors in the series for growing up ugly... :-"
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:lol: What a great topic =d> :lol:
Like Eastern said, she was becoming more attractive in the 3rd movie but definitely sometime around the 4th/5th.
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:
I've had a crush on Emma Watson since the second film, she's older than me though so nothing wrong with that!

Basically this.

Can't believe she's 23 now. :shock:
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Just realised how the title is a massive pun :lol:
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5, 3 is just ew.


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Glad you fellas appreciate the thread :lol: I thought it was an absolute corker of a topic, thus saving it for this thread :lol:

Just hard to say really...
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