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10/10 would marry.
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:
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I've had a crush on Emma Watson since the second film, she's older than me though so nothing wrong with that!

Basically this.

Can't believe she's 23 now. :shock:

Pretty much this. Being a few years younger than her I guess it's not weird at all.
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I know a guy who almost ran her over before she was famous.
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MaxiiGCU wrote:
Roar_Brisbane wrote:
11.mvfc.11 wrote:
I've had a crush on Emma Watson since the second film, she's older than me though so nothing wrong with that!

Basically this.

Can't believe she's 23 now. :shock:

Pretty much this. Being a few years younger than her I guess it's not weird at all.


Same age as her, starting reading the Potter books when i was 10. She is that crush to me. The Ultimate crush.
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Shaker wrote:
MaxiiGCU wrote:
Roar_Brisbane wrote:
11.mvfc.11 wrote:
I've had a crush on Emma Watson since the second film, she's older than me though so nothing wrong with that!

Basically this.

Can't believe she's 23 now. :shock:

Pretty much this. Being a few years younger than her I guess it's not weird at all.


Same age as her, starting reading the Potter books when i was 10. She is that crush to me. The Ultimate crush.

Yeah.... But looking back, would you go a 15 year old Emma Watson NOW?
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Eastern Glory wrote:
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MaxiiGCU wrote:
Roar_Brisbane wrote:
11.mvfc.11 wrote:
I've had a crush on Emma Watson since the second film, she's older than me though so nothing wrong with that!

Basically this.

Can't believe she's 23 now. :shock:

Pretty much this. Being a few years younger than her I guess it's not weird at all.


Same age as her, starting reading the Potter books when i was 10. She is that crush to me. The Ultimate crush.

Yeah.... But looking back, would you go a 15 year old Emma Watson NOW?


Sweet jesus no.
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16 maybe. Gotta remember the legalities of these things.
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MaxiiGCU wrote:
16 maybe. Gotta remember the legalities of these things.

That's the whole point FFS :lol: we know the legalities, and we know you find her attractive, but when you loom back, knowing she is attractive, at what age do you find her attractive or 'hot' if you will? :lol:
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Eastern Glory wrote:
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16 maybe. Gotta remember the legalities of these things.

That's the whole point FFS :lol: we know the legalities, and we know you find her attractive, but when you loom back, knowing she is attractive, at what age do you find her attractive or 'hot' if you will? :lol:

Haha I know. Probably would tbh :')
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The thing with asking a bunch of guys who are around the same age as her and grew up watching her the question becomes less "At what point is it okay to be attracted to the Hermoine character?" as "At what age did you start to notice girls?"
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afromanGT wrote:
The thing with asking a bunch of guys who are around the same age as her and grew up watching her the question becomes less "At what point is it okay to be attracted to the Hermoine character?" as "At what age did you start to notice girls?"

No it's not. Because when I was 12 and she was 15 I was attracted to her... But now, as a 20 year old, I find it troubling to think about being in any way aroused by a 15 year old....

Notor and the rest of you married blokes, when you look back at photos of your wife as an early teen, what goes through your head?
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Eastern Glory wrote:
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The thing with asking a bunch of guys who are around the same age as her and grew up watching her the question becomes less "At what point is it okay to be attracted to the Hermoine character?" as "At what age did you start to notice girls?"

No it's not. Because when I was 12 and she was 15 I was attracted to her... But now, as a 20 year old, I find it troubling to think about being in any way aroused by a 15 year old....

Notor and the rest of you married blokes, when you look back at photos of your wife as an early teen, what goes through your head?


Usually "she's got the makings of a nice looking woman... And she should smile a bit more."
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Eastern Glory wrote:
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The thing with asking a bunch of guys who are around the same age as her and grew up watching her the question becomes less "At what point is it okay to be attracted to the Hermoine character?" as "At what age did you start to notice girls?"

No it's not. Because when I was 12 and she was 15 I was attracted to her... But now, as a 20 year old, I find it troubling to think about being in any way aroused by a 15 year old....

My point exactly. People are talking about when they personally first found her attractive in the past, with regard to their own age at the time etc. Not at as adults looking back at the films, where they draw the line between "young lady, is going to be pretty" and "fuck, she's become a stunner" in the movie series. They're talking more about when they first noticed girls than her physical development.
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afromanGT wrote:
Eastern Glory wrote:
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The thing with asking a bunch of guys who are around the same age as her and grew up watching her the question becomes less "At what point is it okay to be attracted to the Hermoine character?" as "At what age did you start to notice girls?"

No it's not. Because when I was 12 and she was 15 I was attracted to her... But now, as a 20 year old, I find it troubling to think about being in any way aroused by a 15 year old....

My point exactly. People are talking about when they personally first found her attractive in the past, with regard to their own age at the time etc. Not at as adults looking back at the films, where they draw the line between "young lady, is going to be pretty" and "fuck, she's become a stunner" in the movie series. They're talking more about when they first noticed girls than her physical development.


No-one cares what people thought when they were her age as the movies came out! The only interesting part is as an adult, re watching the movies, at what point do you find her attractive :lol:

People are missing this point!
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Eastern Glory wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
The thing with asking a bunch of guys who are around the same age as her and grew up watching her the question becomes less "At what point is it okay to be attracted to the Hermoine character?" as "At what age did you start to notice girls?"

No it's not. Because when I was 12 and she was 15 I was attracted to her... But now, as a 20 year old, I find it troubling to think about being in any way aroused by a 15 year old....

Notor and the rest of you married blokes, when you look back at photos of your wife as an early teen, what goes through your head?


You're 20? Genuinely thought you'd be at least mid 30s.

It was ok by the 3rd movie when they had to tape her breasts. But you still knew they were there.
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While we're still on about Emma Watson, what is with women and these really short haircuts, I think it look's something shocking and is a real turnoff.
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:
Roar_Brisbane wrote:
While we're still on about Emma Watson, what is with women and these really short haircuts, I think it look's something shocking and is a real turnoff.
This so much.


It depends. Emma Watson still looks hot IMO. Miley Cyrus on the other hand...
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Funky Munky wrote:
11.mvfc.11 wrote:
Roar_Brisbane wrote:
While we're still on about Emma Watson, what is with women and these really short haircuts, I think it look's something shocking and is a real turnoff.
This so much.


It depends. Emma Watson still looks hot IMO. Miley Cyrus on the other hand...


This. Emma still looks smoking.
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Shaker wrote:
Funky Munky wrote:
11.mvfc.11 wrote:
Roar_Brisbane wrote:
While we're still on about Emma Watson, what is with women and these really short haircuts, I think it look's something shocking and is a real turnoff.
This so much.


It depends. Emma Watson still looks hot IMO. Miley Cyrus on the other hand...


This. Emma still looks smoking.

A friend of mine did it, and she's still out of this world hot. In fact I think she looks better with it.

While I can live with EW's look, would much prefer she grows it back out.
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Funky Munky wrote:
11.mvfc.11 wrote:
Roar_Brisbane wrote:
While we're still on about Emma Watson, what is with women and these really short haircuts, I think it look's something shocking and is a real turnoff.
This so much.


It depends. Emma Watson still looks hot IMO. Miley Cyrus on the other hand...

Miley Cyrus is about to go through that "look and act like a junkie" phase of her career though.
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Eastern Glory wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
The thing with asking a bunch of guys who are around the same age as her and grew up watching her the question becomes less "At what point is it okay to be attracted to the Hermoine character?" as "At what age did you start to notice girls?"

No it's not. Because when I was 12 and she was 15 I was attracted to her... But now, as a 20 year old, I find it troubling to think about being in any way aroused by a 15 year old....

Notor and the rest of you married blokes, when you look back at photos of your wife as an early teen, what goes through your head?


You're 20? Genuinely thought you'd be at least mid 30s.

It was ok by the 3rd movie when they had to tape her breasts. But you still knew they were there.

:lol: nah mate, still just a kid
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Best. Pope Ever. He won't last :lol:
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POPE Francis has reached out to gays, saying he wouldn't judge priests for their sexual orientation in a remarkably open and wide-ranging news conference as he returned from his first foreign trip.

"If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?" Francis asked.

His predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, signed a document in 2005 that said men with deep-rooted homosexual tendencies should not be priests. Francis was much more conciliatory, saying gay clergymen should be forgiven and their sins forgotten.

Francis' remarks came during a plane journey back to the Vatican from his first foreign trip in Brazil.

He was funny and candid during his first news conference that lasted almost an hour and a half. He didn't dodge a single question, even thanking the journalist who raised allegations reported by an Italian newsmagazine that one of his trusted monsignors was involved in a scandalous gay tryst.

Francis said he investigated and found nothing to back up the allegations.

Francis was asked about Italian media reports suggesting that a group within the church tried to blackmail fellow church officials with evidence of their homosexual activities. Italian media reported this year that the allegations contributed to Benedict's decision to resign.

Pope Francis smiles before departing for Rome after concluding a week-long trip to Brazil, at the air base in Rio de Janeiro.

Stressing that Catholic social teaching that calls for homosexuals to be treated with dignity and not marginalised, Francis said it was something else entirely to conspire to use private information for blackmail or to exert pressure.

Francis was responding to reports that a trusted aide was involved in an alleged gay tryst a decade ago. He said he investigated the allegations according to canon law and found nothing to back them up. But he took journalists to task for reporting on the matter, saying the allegations concerned matters of sin, not crimes like sexually abusing children.

And when someone sins and confesses, he said, God not only forgives but forgets.

"We don't have the right to not forget," he said.

The directness of his comments suggested that he wanted to put the matter of the monsignor behind him as he sets about overhauling the Vatican bank and reforming the Holy See bureaucracy.

Speaking in Italian with occasional lapses in his native Spanish, Francis dropped a few nuggets of other news:

Cardinals, bishops and priests take photos as they wait for the arrival of Pope Francis and the start of the World Youth Day closing Mass in Rio.

- He said he was thinking of travelling to the Holy Land next year and is considering invitations from Sri Lanka and the Philippines as well.

- The planned December 8 canonisations of Popes John Paul II and John XXIII will likely be postponed - perhaps until the weekend after Easter - because road conditions in December would be dangerously icy for Poles travelling to the ceremony by bus.

- And he solved the mystery that has been circulating ever since he was pictured boarding the plane to Rio carrying his own black bag, an unusual break from Vatican protocol.

"The keys to the atomic bomb weren't in it," Francis quipped. Rather, he said, the bag merely contained a razor, his breviary prayer book, his agenda and a book on St Terese of Lisieux, to whom he is particularly devoted.

"It's normal" to carry a bag when travelling, he said. "We have to get use to this being normal, this normalcy of life," for a pope, he added.

Francis certainly showed a human, normal touch during his trip to Rio, charming the masses at World Youth Day with his decision to forgo typical Vatican security so he could to get close to his flock. Francis travelled without the bulletproof Popemobile, using instead a simple Fiat or open-sided car.

Pope Francis urged young prisoners in Rio de Janeiro to avoid violence during a meeting with them. Rough Cut (no reporter narration)

"There wasn't a single incident in all of Rio de Janeiro in all of these days and all of this spontaneity," Francis said, responding to concerns raised after his car was swarmed by an adoring mob when it took a wrong turn and got stuck in traffic.

"I could be with the people, embrace them and greet them - without an armoured car and instead with the security of trusting the people," he said.

He acknowledged that there is always the chance that a "crazy" person could get to him. But he said he preferred taking that risk than submitting to the "craziness" of putting an armoured wall between a shepherd and his flock.

Francis' news conference was remarkable and unprecedented: Pope John Paul II used to have on-board press conferences, but he would move about the cabin, chatting with individual reporters so it was sometimes hit-or-miss to hear what he said and there were often time limits. After Benedict's maiden foreign voyage, the Vatican insisted that reporters submit questions in advance so the theologian pope could choose the three or four he wanted to answer and prepare his answers.

For Francis, however, no question was off the table, no small thing given that he is known to distrust the mainstream media and had told journalists en route to Rio that he greatly disliked giving news conferences because he found them "tiresome".

Francis spoke lovingly of his predecessor, Benedict XVI, saying that having him living in the Vatican "is like having a grandfather, a wise grandfather, living at home." He said he regularly asks Benedict for advice, but dismissed suggestions that the German pontiff was exerting any influence on his papacy.

Pope Francis waves to crowds in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, as the city hosts World Youth Day.

On the contrary, Francis said he had tried to encourage Benedict to participate more in public functions at the Vatican and receive guests, but that he was "a man of prudence".

In one of his most important speeches delivered in Rio, Francis described the church in feminine terms, saying it would be "sterile" without women. Asked what role he foresaw, he said the church must develop a more profound role for women in the church, though he said "the door is closed" to ordaining women to the priesthood.

He was less charitable with the Vatican accountant, Monsignor Nunzio Scarano, who has been jailed on accusations he plotted to smuggle 20 million euros ($29 million) from Switzerland to Italy and is also accused by Italian prosecutors of using his Vatican bank account to launder money.

Francis said while "there are saints" in the Vatican bureaucracy, Scarano wasn't among them.

The Vatican bank, known as the Institute for Religious Works, has been a focus of Francis' reform efforts, and he has named a commission of inquiry to look into its activities amid accusations from Italian prosecutors that it has been used as an offshore tax haven to launder money.

Asked if closing the bank was a possibility, Francis said: "I don't know how this story will end."

Pope Francis poses for a picture with military police outside the Metropolitan Cathedral in Rio de Janeiro.
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"But the characteristics of the IOR - whether it's a bank, an aid fund or whatever it is - are transparency and honesty."


Read more: http://www.news.com.au/world-news/pope-francis-says-he-wont-judge-priests-for-being-gay-as-he-returns-from-brazil/story-fndir2ev-1226687806050#ixzz2aTamwECX

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Best. Pope Ever. He won't last :lol:
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POPE Francis has reached out to gays, saying he wouldn't judge priests for their sexual orientation in a remarkably open and wide-ranging news conference as he returned from his first foreign trip.

"If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?" Francis asked.

His predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, signed a document in 2005 that said men with deep-rooted homosexual tendencies should not be priests. Francis was much more conciliatory, saying gay clergymen should be forgiven and their sins forgotten.

Francis' remarks came during a plane journey back to the Vatican from his first foreign trip in Brazil.

He was funny and candid during his first news conference that lasted almost an hour and a half. He didn't dodge a single question, even thanking the journalist who raised allegations reported by an Italian newsmagazine that one of his trusted monsignors was involved in a scandalous gay tryst.

Francis said he investigated and found nothing to back up the allegations.

Francis was asked about Italian media reports suggesting that a group within the church tried to blackmail fellow church officials with evidence of their homosexual activities. Italian media reported this year that the allegations contributed to Benedict's decision to resign.

Pope Francis smiles before departing for Rome after concluding a week-long trip to Brazil, at the air base in Rio de Janeiro.

Stressing that Catholic social teaching that calls for homosexuals to be treated with dignity and not marginalised, Francis said it was something else entirely to conspire to use private information for blackmail or to exert pressure.

Francis was responding to reports that a trusted aide was involved in an alleged gay tryst a decade ago. He said he investigated the allegations according to canon law and found nothing to back them up. But he took journalists to task for reporting on the matter, saying the allegations concerned matters of sin, not crimes like sexually abusing children.

And when someone sins and confesses, he said, God not only forgives but forgets.

"We don't have the right to not forget," he said.

The directness of his comments suggested that he wanted to put the matter of the monsignor behind him as he sets about overhauling the Vatican bank and reforming the Holy See bureaucracy.

Speaking in Italian with occasional lapses in his native Spanish, Francis dropped a few nuggets of other news:

Cardinals, bishops and priests take photos as they wait for the arrival of Pope Francis and the start of the World Youth Day closing Mass in Rio.

- He said he was thinking of travelling to the Holy Land next year and is considering invitations from Sri Lanka and the Philippines as well.

- The planned December 8 canonisations of Popes John Paul II and John XXIII will likely be postponed - perhaps until the weekend after Easter - because road conditions in December would be dangerously icy for Poles travelling to the ceremony by bus.

- And he solved the mystery that has been circulating ever since he was pictured boarding the plane to Rio carrying his own black bag, an unusual break from Vatican protocol.

"The keys to the atomic bomb weren't in it," Francis quipped. Rather, he said, the bag merely contained a razor, his breviary prayer book, his agenda and a book on St Terese of Lisieux, to whom he is particularly devoted.

"It's normal" to carry a bag when travelling, he said. "We have to get use to this being normal, this normalcy of life," for a pope, he added.

Francis certainly showed a human, normal touch during his trip to Rio, charming the masses at World Youth Day with his decision to forgo typical Vatican security so he could to get close to his flock. Francis travelled without the bulletproof Popemobile, using instead a simple Fiat or open-sided car.

Pope Francis urged young prisoners in Rio de Janeiro to avoid violence during a meeting with them. Rough Cut (no reporter narration)

"There wasn't a single incident in all of Rio de Janeiro in all of these days and all of this spontaneity," Francis said, responding to concerns raised after his car was swarmed by an adoring mob when it took a wrong turn and got stuck in traffic.

"I could be with the people, embrace them and greet them - without an armoured car and instead with the security of trusting the people," he said.

He acknowledged that there is always the chance that a "crazy" person could get to him. But he said he preferred taking that risk than submitting to the "craziness" of putting an armoured wall between a shepherd and his flock.

Francis' news conference was remarkable and unprecedented: Pope John Paul II used to have on-board press conferences, but he would move about the cabin, chatting with individual reporters so it was sometimes hit-or-miss to hear what he said and there were often time limits. After Benedict's maiden foreign voyage, the Vatican insisted that reporters submit questions in advance so the theologian pope could choose the three or four he wanted to answer and prepare his answers.

For Francis, however, no question was off the table, no small thing given that he is known to distrust the mainstream media and had told journalists en route to Rio that he greatly disliked giving news conferences because he found them "tiresome".

Francis spoke lovingly of his predecessor, Benedict XVI, saying that having him living in the Vatican "is like having a grandfather, a wise grandfather, living at home." He said he regularly asks Benedict for advice, but dismissed suggestions that the German pontiff was exerting any influence on his papacy.

Pope Francis waves to crowds in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, as the city hosts World Youth Day.

On the contrary, Francis said he had tried to encourage Benedict to participate more in public functions at the Vatican and receive guests, but that he was "a man of prudence".

In one of his most important speeches delivered in Rio, Francis described the church in feminine terms, saying it would be "sterile" without women. Asked what role he foresaw, he said the church must develop a more profound role for women in the church, though he said "the door is closed" to ordaining women to the priesthood.

He was less charitable with the Vatican accountant, Monsignor Nunzio Scarano, who has been jailed on accusations he plotted to smuggle 20 million euros ($29 million) from Switzerland to Italy and is also accused by Italian prosecutors of using his Vatican bank account to launder money.

Francis said while "there are saints" in the Vatican bureaucracy, Scarano wasn't among them.

The Vatican bank, known as the Institute for Religious Works, has been a focus of Francis' reform efforts, and he has named a commission of inquiry to look into its activities amid accusations from Italian prosecutors that it has been used as an offshore tax haven to launder money.

Asked if closing the bank was a possibility, Francis said: "I don't know how this story will end."

Pope Francis poses for a picture with military police outside the Metropolitan Cathedral in Rio de Janeiro.
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"But the characteristics of the IOR - whether it's a bank, an aid fund or whatever it is - are transparency and honesty."


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Where does it mention Emma Watson being sexy? :cry:
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Where does it mention Emma Watson being sexy? :cry:

If you're a chick and find Emma Watson sexy, the Pope is OK with it.
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Eastern Glory wrote:
Where does it mention Emma Watson being sexy? :cry:

If you're a chick and find Emma Watson sexy, the Pope is OK with it.


Only if you're a catholic chick. He's still free to judge the millions of non-catholic LGBT humans in the world.
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notorganic wrote:
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Eastern Glory wrote:
Where does it mention Emma Watson being sexy? :cry:

If you're a chick and find Emma Watson sexy, the Pope is OK with it.


Only if you're a catholic chick. He's still free to judge the millions of non-catholic LGBT humans in the world.

He's not judging them for being gay, he's judging them for not being Catholic.;)
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f1worldchamp wrote:
notorganic wrote:
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Eastern Glory wrote:
Where does it mention Emma Watson being sexy? :cry:

If you're a chick and find Emma Watson sexy, the Pope is OK with it.


Only if you're a catholic chick. He's still free to judge the millions of non-catholic LGBT humans in the world.

He's not judging them for being gay, he's judging them for not being Catholic.;)

He's not judging anyone, that's God's job ;)
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Eastern Glory wrote:
f1worldchamp wrote:
notorganic wrote:
f1worldchamp wrote:
Eastern Glory wrote:
Where does it mention Emma Watson being sexy? :cry:

If you're a chick and find Emma Watson sexy, the Pope is OK with it.


Only if you're a catholic chick. He's still free to judge the millions of non-catholic LGBT humans in the world.

He's not judging them for being gay, he's judging them for not being Catholic.;)

He's not judging anyone, that's God's job ;)

I stand corrected!
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