Its about averages. Not every rightie is religious and neither is every religious believer a rightie.

And not every anti-theist is an ozboy sized douchenozzle.

You got married age 17? That's enthusiastic.

Bugger about climate change, that we need to plant more trees, eh?

Yeah, but few of them are in thousands or even millions of year old ecosystems which we seem to have no qualms with destroying.

no we met then...took till i was 23 before she nailed me down...i was an apprentice electrician and working at nights in a road crew for a sydney band......

hey afro don't you like my lovely sow...?????

her name is chopper because part of her ear is missing....lol...she has delivered 68 piglets so far......

Nice of you to post a picture of your wife, Batfink.

Have you ever driven up the east coast of Australia? Trees bloody everyone! There's absolutely no shortage of trees in Australia, no issues relocating koalas to trees where their existence isn't a barrier to progress. The land you currently live on probably had trees and millions of years old ecosystems on it to pave way for the house you live in. Even Ozboy and Batfink are currently profiting from the greed and environmental indifference of developers who murdered trees and koalas to build their homes. How they can sleep at night is beyond me.

Well I've got four in my front yard. Just doin my bit for the environment.

:lol: Trees in one small section of the world doesn't justify your argument. That's like taking a bucket, scooping up water from the ocean and concluding that whales don't exist.

What about the other 400 billion trees and 29% coverage of the earth ? I'm not saying bulldoze anything with a leaf, just don't think we're in a ecological state of emergency yet.

I'd say the Amazon being cleared at the speed of an AFL football field an hour is cause for alarm.

We're going to be if nothing is done about it...

Deforestation of the Amazon has slowed down dramatically, it's pretty much under control.

To the contrary republican rusty, as long as they're logging there instead of sustainable forests there's still an issue.

They have to log there to feed the population. It's trees or people.

No, they don't. There are literally dozens of sustainable logging projects in Brazil now which are being ignored in preference to the continued logging of the Amazon.

Probably because they're not sustainable from a commercial point of view therefore not sustainable at all.

Yeah, short term having to re-plant logged areas is going to cost more money than logging those ancient trees for free and not having to re-plant shit.

But when those trees run out...what are they going to log?

No all you've demonstrated is a religious preference towards voting conservative, not that those voters are right wing per se. Catholics in America are usually instructed to vote republican due to their stance on the abortion issue, which trumps all others. Voting conservative doesn't prove that one is ideologically right wing, in fact the stats show those who attend church regularly are more likely to align themselves centrally or left more so than right.




It's only the opinion of the non religious there is lack of congruence between science and religion. To the believer they are perfectly complimentary, in fact Einstein said something about science without religion being lame or something.




The Manhatten Declaration On Climate Change and Manhattan Declaration: A Call of Christian Conscience have nothing to do with each other. How embarrassing for you.:oops:

It's really poor to suggest someone can't use their expertise to critique a paper because their unrelated personal and political beliefs are different from the authors. You don't think those who wrote the papers objectivity was compromised by their personal feelings towards minority groups?




Oh I see, so as long as the peer reviews come the left and support the authors conclusions they have merit but god forbid if they come from the right they can't be trusted. A classic double standard.








Edited by rusty: 11/7/2013 02:28:29 AM

Probably the replanted areas because obviously by then it will have become commercially sustainable.

Except they're not replanting these "replanted areas" so they won't exist so there won't BE anywhere to log.

one day you will mature......but then again???:-"

really heineken that's a pretty pathetic thing to say about someone's wife....

LOL......Koala's only eat specific types of gum trees....not any type of gum trees.....


can you explain the bold bit above for me???????

Why do you always use so many question marks?

You are aware that if you allow the clearing of natural forest on the east coast that the first areas to go will most likely be the highly important forest corridors. Theses are areas that allow what little we have left to be able to survive but they are in lands that would be highly profitable to big business. Removing them will mean, Kangaroos, Koalas, goannas, etc. and many bugs and beetles can not to move between forests to either diversify the mating population or repopulate areas after bushfires. Pretty soon you will lose much of your wildlife and then the bush altogether because you have entirely destroyed the ecosystem.

rusty's attitude is the reason we have 90% of the environmental issues that we do.

Fixed.

My attitude is the reason why poverty rates are in decline. Simply prioritise the lives of humans above the lives of trees. Not saying lets cut down every forest so we can feed a few poor souls, but lets find a balance between environmental management and industry.