Legal bid launched to stop FFV's NPL [FFT Article]


Legal bid launched to stop FFV's NPL [FFT Article]

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This is attrocious behaviour by all involved heading off to the courts instead of resolving their problems.
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No offence OldRef, but you are 10 months behind the developments.
The clubs have been trying to talk sense to the FFV since late last year.

The FFV has been ignoring and brushing aside all their concerns

Just scan through the pages on the forums to see when all these issues first surfaced.


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OldRef wrote:
This is attrocious behaviour by all involved heading off to the courts instead of resolving their problems.

the clubs have tried. FFV wont listen or budge.
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mltezr wrote:
OldRef wrote:
This is attrocious behaviour by all involved heading off to the courts instead of resolving their problems.

the clubs have tried. FFV wont listen or budge.


So what does that tell you?
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Joffa wrote:
mltezr wrote:
OldRef wrote:
This is attrocious behaviour by all involved heading off to the courts instead of resolving their problems.

the clubs have tried. FFV wont listen or budge.


So what does that tell you?


That the FFA is out of order?

What does it tell you when so many clubs initially sign up and then walk away - when local councils and public works departments say they have not been consulted properly - and when the FFV still won't listen?


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Benjamin wrote:
Joffa wrote:
mltezr wrote:
OldRef wrote:
This is attrocious behaviour by all involved heading off to the courts instead of resolving their problems.

the clubs have tried. FFV wont listen or budge.


So what does that tell you?


That the FFA is out of order?

What does it tell you when so many clubs initially sign up and then walk away - when local councils and public works departments say they have not been consulted properly - and when the FFV still won't listen?




That is from your perspective(and the 48 clubs and councils that have withdrawn).

No club is being forced to participate in this competition



Edited by Joffa: 10/8/2013 09:22:06 PM
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Wrong Joffa,

NSW TAS, they just rebranded their top tiers to ...NPL

The NCR Recommendations asked for exactly that

Whereas FFV in Vic has designed a ZONAL system (no where on the planet does something similar exist) that has the NPL successful applicant 'owning' all the surrounding clubs (which would include the current top tier clubs)


So players pathway is only via the 'owning' NPL club that controls/owns the ZONE

Its not so simple to say ......just do not go in it !!
Read the detail, its in the Model documents

Edited by troy5: 10/8/2013 09:09:52 PM
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Joffa wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Joffa wrote:
mltezr wrote:
OldRef wrote:
This is attrocious behaviour by all involved heading off to the courts instead of resolving their problems.

the clubs have tried. FFV wont listen or budge.


So what does that tell you?


That the FFA is out of order?

What does it tell you when so many clubs initially sign up and then walk away - when local councils and public works departments say they have not been consulted properly - and when the FFV still won't listen?




That is from your perspective(and the 48 clubs and councils that have withdrawn).

No club is being forced to participate in this competition


Very naive response, Joffa.

The FFV's job is to work to the improve the game in the state. How are they improving the game if they get offside with every major club in the state - and at the same time damage relations with local authorities?

The argument being made by the 'rebel' clubs here is that the FFV is not working in the best interests of the game.
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Benjamin wrote:
Joffa wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Joffa wrote:
mltezr wrote:
OldRef wrote:
This is attrocious behaviour by all involved heading off to the courts instead of resolving their problems.

the clubs have tried. FFV wont listen or budge.


So what does that tell you?


That the FFA is out of order?

What does it tell you when so many clubs initially sign up and then walk away - when local councils and public works departments say they have not been consulted properly - and when the FFV still won't listen?




That is from your perspective(and the 48 clubs and councils that have withdrawn).

No club is being forced to participate in this competition


Very naive response, Joffa.

The FFV's job is to work to the improve the game in the state. How are they improving the game if they get offside with every major club in the state - and at the same time damage relations with local authorities?

The argument being made by the 'rebel' clubs here is that the FFV is not working in the best interests of the game.


My point is, without getting into the politics, is that there are two points of view.
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Troy5 wrote:
Wrong Joffa,

NSW TAS, they just rebranded their top tiers to ...NPL

The NCR Recommendations asked for exactly that

Whereas FFV in Vic has designed a ZONAL system (no where on the planet does something similar exist) that has the NPL successful applicant 'owning' all the surrounding clubs (which would include the current top tier clubs)


So players pathway is only via the 'owning' NPL club that controls/owns the ZONE

Its not so simple to say ......just do not go in it !!
Read the detail, its in the Model documents

Edited by troy5: 10/8/2013 09:09:52 PM



Its actually quite simple....

Here's a potential model.....

No Licence Agreements
That forces clubs to assign their.... rights/infrastructure/facilities/IP and at the same time carry all the Financial Risk together with a Bank Guarantee!......no way.

No Zonal System
That forces all community clubs in a zone to be subservient to an "elite" club

No Upfront $55,000 (GST inc)
Clubs will not pay this fee for the privilege of testing out whether the financial model is solvent or not

NO Splitting off Juniors / Sub Juniors
It takes years to build up clubs. Clubs are much more than just 'elite' training pathways to senior football

Instead

Why don't we follow the Tassie or NSW model

Just REBRAND the top 2 tiers to NPL & NPL1

Allow Relegation /Advancement so the Community clubs can be advanced up from the league just under the NPL1...
Why cut these clubs out from the improvement process?

Give the NPL clubs or the new ones that get promoted up every year, some time to improve the qualifications of their coaches and or appoint a Technical Director when they can afford to do so (say in 1, 2 or 3 years)

Clubs keep their juniors/ sub juniors but have an A team in all age categories (or give them some time to build up to every age category)

The other recommendations provided in the (FFAs) NCR can also be implemented over a phased approach to make it easier and financially viable

and..... keep the current Constitutional structures all the clubs have uniformly signed onto in 2010


An important principle of our code is that every club has an opportunity to rise to the top tier.

It can all be done......and done quite simply


Clubs should not need to rip themselves apart with acrimony and distaste between their own members/juniors......that is what this FFV model will create
Bulleen's unfortunate example...... is a warning to all that sit idly by........

GET ACTIVE
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krones3 wrote:
Arthur wrote:
Game Change wrote:
saaftasi wrote:
Is this an attempt by FFV to appease the rebel clubs?

http://admin.footballfedvic.com.au/fileadmin/user_upload/Communications/NPLV/9_AUGUST_2013_FFA_SAP_NPL__2_.pdf

9 AUGUST 2013
FFA CONFIRMS VICTORIAN NPL CLUBS GIVEN PRIORITY TO RUN SKILL ACQUISITION PROGRAMS
Victorian NPL clubs will be given priority to run and manage officially recognised Skill
Acquisition Programs (SAP) for the most talented 9-12 year olds from all community clubs.
Details on how it will operate including gala days where these players can compete against
other NPL clubs are being worked through by FFV and FFA.
A key aspect of SAP is to perfect and accelerate the skill development of identified players at
the critical ‘golden age’ of motor leaning.
The fully FFA accredited programs are taught by qualified coaches and adhere to FFA’s
national curriculum.
This age group is universally acknowledged to be the optimal mental and physical phase in
which boys and girls are able to learn motor skills.
SAP programs run by NPL clubs will provide players with the necessary technical tools to be
able to play the game at the highest possible level. The focus is on functional game skills as
opposed to ‘tricks’.
Currently a lot of development programs for these age groups are too focussed on results
instead of skills. At the world’s top level the most skilful players decide the outcome of
games, not the biggest, strongest and fittest. That is why official SAP run at NPL clubs will
ensure the most talented young players from all clubs are developed into match winning
players for their clubs and, ultimately, for Australia.
Tim Frampton, State Manager NPL will work with licensed NPL clubs to ensure their
coaching frameworks provide the appropriate level of FFA accreditation and to shift the
development focus to long term winning .
Applications for NPL in Victoria close strictly at 5pm Friday 16 August and licences will be
announced September 30.


Strange press release, I thought this was already in the nplv proposals? Given ffv have been running the sap program, what have the ffa got to do with it? I think the club issue is with not being able to run the ssf teams. I think nsw npl clubs also run the sap program.


NPLV clubs are expected to organise SAP programs as part of the Participation Agreement.

In NSW the SAP program can cost upto $1500, I also beleive they have SAP Gala Days.

well i have been telling everyone on this forum for years $2500.00 up here.


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Arthur wrote:
krones3 wrote:
Arthur wrote:
Game Change wrote:
saaftasi wrote:
Is this an attempt by FFV to appease the rebel clubs?

http://admin.footballfedvic.com.au/fileadmin/user_upload/Communications/NPLV/9_AUGUST_2013_FFA_SAP_NPL__2_.pdf

9 AUGUST 2013
FFA CONFIRMS VICTORIAN NPL CLUBS GIVEN PRIORITY TO RUN SKILL ACQUISITION PROGRAMS
Victorian NPL clubs will be given priority to run and manage officially recognised Skill
Acquisition Programs (SAP) for the most talented 9-12 year olds from all community clubs.
Details on how it will operate including gala days where these players can compete against
other NPL clubs are being worked through by FFV and FFA.
A key aspect of SAP is to perfect and accelerate the skill development of identified players at
the critical ‘golden age’ of motor leaning.
The fully FFA accredited programs are taught by qualified coaches and adhere to FFA’s
national curriculum.
This age group is universally acknowledged to be the optimal mental and physical phase in
which boys and girls are able to learn motor skills.
SAP programs run by NPL clubs will provide players with the necessary technical tools to be
able to play the game at the highest possible level. The focus is on functional game skills as
opposed to ‘tricks’.
Currently a lot of development programs for these age groups are too focussed on results
instead of skills. At the world’s top level the most skilful players decide the outcome of
games, not the biggest, strongest and fittest. That is why official SAP run at NPL clubs will
ensure the most talented young players from all clubs are developed into match winning
players for their clubs and, ultimately, for Australia.
Tim Frampton, State Manager NPL will work with licensed NPL clubs to ensure their
coaching frameworks provide the appropriate level of FFA accreditation and to shift the
development focus to long term winning .
Applications for NPL in Victoria close strictly at 5pm Friday 16 August and licences will be
announced September 30.


Strange press release, I thought this was already in the nplv proposals? Given ffv have been running the sap program, what have the ffa got to do with it? I think the club issue is with not being able to run the ssf teams. I think nsw npl clubs also run the sap program.


NPLV clubs are expected to organise SAP programs as part of the Participation Agreement.

In NSW the SAP program can cost upto $1500, I also beleive they have SAP Gala Days.

well i have been telling everyone on this forum for years $2500.00 up here.


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krones3 wrote:
Arthur wrote:
krones3 wrote:
Arthur wrote:
Game Change wrote:
saaftasi wrote:
Is this an attempt by FFV to appease the rebel clubs?

http://admin.footballfedvic.com.au/fileadmin/user_upload/Communications/NPLV/9_AUGUST_2013_FFA_SAP_NPL__2_.pdf

9 AUGUST 2013
FFA CONFIRMS VICTORIAN NPL CLUBS GIVEN PRIORITY TO RUN SKILL ACQUISITION PROGRAMS
Victorian NPL clubs will be given priority to run and manage officially recognised Skill
Acquisition Programs (SAP) for the most talented 9-12 year olds from all community clubs.
Details on how it will operate including gala days where these players can compete against
other NPL clubs are being worked through by FFV and FFA.
A key aspect of SAP is to perfect and accelerate the skill development of identified players at
the critical ‘golden age’ of motor leaning.
The fully FFA accredited programs are taught by qualified coaches and adhere to FFA’s
national curriculum.
This age group is universally acknowledged to be the optimal mental and physical phase in
which boys and girls are able to learn motor skills.
SAP programs run by NPL clubs will provide players with the necessary technical tools to be
able to play the game at the highest possible level. The focus is on functional game skills as
opposed to ‘tricks’.
Currently a lot of development programs for these age groups are too focussed on results
instead of skills. At the world’s top level the most skilful players decide the outcome of
games, not the biggest, strongest and fittest. That is why official SAP run at NPL clubs will
ensure the most talented young players from all clubs are developed into match winning
players for their clubs and, ultimately, for Australia.
Tim Frampton, State Manager NPL will work with licensed NPL clubs to ensure their
coaching frameworks provide the appropriate level of FFA accreditation and to shift the
development focus to long term winning .
Applications for NPL in Victoria close strictly at 5pm Friday 16 August and licences will be
announced September 30.


Strange press release, I thought this was already in the nplv proposals? Given ffv have been running the sap program, what have the ffa got to do with it? I think the club issue is with not being able to run the ssf teams. I think nsw npl clubs also run the sap program.


NPLV clubs are expected to organise SAP programs as part of the Participation Agreement.

In NSW the SAP program can cost upto $1500, I also beleive they have SAP Gala Days.

well i have been telling everyone on this forum for years $2500.00 up here.


Middle class football

Brings a new form of nepotism to the game.


Seriously $2,500??

WHat are they doing with the money Krones?
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Arthur wrote:
krones3 wrote:
Arthur wrote:
krones3 wrote:
Arthur wrote:
Game Change wrote:
saaftasi wrote:
Is this an attempt by FFV to appease the rebel clubs?

http://admin.footballfedvic.com.au/fileadmin/user_upload/Communications/NPLV/9_AUGUST_2013_FFA_SAP_NPL__2_.pdf

9 AUGUST 2013
FFA CONFIRMS VICTORIAN NPL CLUBS GIVEN PRIORITY TO RUN SKILL ACQUISITION PROGRAMS
Victorian NPL clubs will be given priority to run and manage officially recognised Skill
Acquisition Programs (SAP) for the most talented 9-12 year olds from all community clubs.
Details on how it will operate including gala days where these players can compete against
other NPL clubs are being worked through by FFV and FFA.
A key aspect of SAP is to perfect and accelerate the skill development of identified players at
the critical ‘golden age’ of motor leaning.
The fully FFA accredited programs are taught by qualified coaches and adhere to FFA’s
national curriculum.
This age group is universally acknowledged to be the optimal mental and physical phase in
which boys and girls are able to learn motor skills.
SAP programs run by NPL clubs will provide players with the necessary technical tools to be
able to play the game at the highest possible level. The focus is on functional game skills as
opposed to ‘tricks’.
Currently a lot of development programs for these age groups are too focussed on results
instead of skills. At the world’s top level the most skilful players decide the outcome of
games, not the biggest, strongest and fittest. That is why official SAP run at NPL clubs will
ensure the most talented young players from all clubs are developed into match winning
players for their clubs and, ultimately, for Australia.
Tim Frampton, State Manager NPL will work with licensed NPL clubs to ensure their
coaching frameworks provide the appropriate level of FFA accreditation and to shift the
development focus to long term winning .
Applications for NPL in Victoria close strictly at 5pm Friday 16 August and licences will be
announced September 30.


Strange press release, I thought this was already in the nplv proposals? Given ffv have been running the sap program, what have the ffa got to do with it? I think the club issue is with not being able to run the ssf teams. I think nsw npl clubs also run the sap program.


NPLV clubs are expected to organise SAP programs as part of the Participation Agreement.

In NSW the SAP program can cost upto $1500, I also beleive they have SAP Gala Days.

well i have been telling everyone on this forum for years $2500.00 up here.


Middle class football

Brings a new form of nepotism to the game.


Seriously $2,500??

WHat are they doing with the money Krones?

funding the senior team and the academe. there is no other money or football up here. That is what i wish to mail gallop about.
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Joffa wrote:
mltezr wrote:
OldRef wrote:
This is attrocious behaviour by all involved heading off to the courts instead of resolving their problems.

the clubs have tried. FFV wont listen or budge.


So what does that tell you?


That football is a shower of shit in Victoria (both clubs and FFV).
No wonder the outside world see Australian football still as a backwater.

Europe is funding the war not Chelsea football club

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I like the idea of zones which would encourage the clubs to assist in the development of their entire zone and I think you would see over the years a fan base steadily grow in the zones and a loyalty to their NPL club. I would then assume the idea of not allowing the elite clubs to form junior teams under the same name would be to give all the junior clubs the feeling that they are all contributing to their zone and their NPL team.

Obviously however if the clubs dont agree its not like FFV can force it down their throats, but if the main criticism is the finances, then I would like to see how the zonal system would work.
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[Troy5 wrote:
Wrong Joffa,

NSW TAS, they just rebranded their top tiers to ...NPL

The NCR Recommendations asked for exactly that

Whereas FFV in Vic has designed a ZONAL system (no where on the planet does something similar exist) that has the NPL successful applicant 'owning' all the surrounding clubs (which would include the current top tier clubs)


So players pathway is only via the 'owning' NPL club that controls/owns the ZONE

Its not so simple to say ......just do not go in it !!
Read the detail, its in the Model documents

Edited by troy5: 10/8/2013 09:09:52 PM



Its actually quite simple....

Here's a potential model.....

No Licence Agreements
That forces clubs to assign their.... rights/infrastructure/facilities/IP and at the same time carry all the Financial Risk together with a Bank Guarantee!......no way.

No Zonal System
That forces all community clubs in a zone to be subservient to an "elite" club

No Upfront $55,000 (GST inc)
Clubs will not pay this fee for the privilege of testing out whether the financial model is solvent or not

NO Splitting off Juniors / Sub Juniors
It takes years to build up clubs. Clubs are much more than just 'elite' training pathways to senior football

Instead

Why don't we follow the Tassie or NSW model

Just REBRAND the top 2 tiers to NPL & NPL1

Allow Relegation /Advancement so the Community clubs can be advanced up from the league just under the NPL1...
Why cut these clubs out from the improvement process?

Give the NPL clubs or the new ones that get promoted up every year, some time to improve the qualifications of their coaches and or appoint a Technical Director when they can afford to do so (say in 1, 2 or 3 years)

Clubs keep their juniors/ sub juniors but have an A team in all age categories (or give them some time to build up to every age category)

The other recommendations provided in the (FFAs) NCR can also be implemented over a phased approach to make it easier and financially viable

and..... keep the current Constitutional structures all the clubs have uniformly signed onto in 2010


An important principle of our code is that every club has an opportunity to rise to the top tier.

It can all be done......and done quite simply


Clubs should not need to rip themselves apart with acrimony and distaste between their own members/juniors......that is what this FFV model will create
Bulleen's unfortunate example...... is a warning to all that sit idly by........
Quote:

GET ACTIVE ]

___________________________________________________________________________________________

Well said Troy ..... I have seen 1st hand what happened at Bulleen. I know who ,how & why it all happened but what nobody acknowledges is the turmoil it creates.The acrimony that's there today .... I doubt even if some boys do make it to NPL level, they would rather play for some club other than Bulleen while the current football director is there... but if zones come into it do they have a choice?

Edited by wizardinoz: 11/8/2013 03:27:18 PM

Edited by wizardinoz: 11/8/2013 03:30:47 PM
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Troy5 wrote:
The clubs have put down money to fight in The Supreme Court.

As my father used to say....'never judge by what people say.... But how they act'

The clubs have ACTED...... Bless their souls


As indeed have the FFV.
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Look at this moron go :-({|=
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Quote:
Football Federation Victoria faces legal fight with angry clubs

by: Patrick Lane
From: Melbourne Leader
August 14, 2013 2:30PM

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/north/football-federation-victoria-faces-legal-fight-with-angry-clubs/story-fnglenug-1226697101740

A GROUP of aggrieved clubs has sought legal counsel after Football Federation Victoria did not comply with their deadline to suspend the National Premier League process.
The group, spearheaded by South Melbourne director Tom Kalas and Box Hill United vice-president Nicholas Tsiaras, claims to have the support of 51 member soccer clubs in their bid to halt what they believe is an unviable competition model.

The group gave the governing body a 4pm deadline last Thursday to suspend the process before releasing a statement explaining the proposed court injunction application had been suspended for 24 hours at the FFV's wish.

The group has engaged GPZ Legal in its fight to suspend the NPLV process but late on Tuesday, five days after the FFV's deadline, the governing body had received no legal papers.

"As yet FFV has not received a letter of demand or legal action, been served with any legal papers nor have we received any explanation of the legal basis for any such action. FFV will not be making any further comment regarding potential or alleged legal action," a statement read.

But GPZ legal partner Nick Galatas has confirmed today that steps are being taken to seek a court injunction to suspend the process, which sees applications close on Friday.

Any legal action undertaken by the aggrieved clubs would hinge on whether a barrister first advised whether they have a course of action.

It is unknown whether the plaintiff will be South Melbourne - Kalas's club of origin and one of Victoria's most powerful football institutions - or the aggrieved clubs, with Galatas telling Leader just who would be listed on legal documents was still a point of conjecture.

Crucially, clubs are incorporated associations, meaning their assets are member-run and membership approval would likely be required for legal action.

Further, any pursuit of a court injunction would require a plaintiff's undertaking of liability should its action be unsuccessful.

The group is calling on the FFV to suspend the selection process and meet with the clubs on August 26 to redesign the current financial model, which clubs believe will see NPLV institutions run at losses of more than $140,000 a year.

But a source close to the application process has rubbished those figures, believing any financial shortfalls in figure estimates rests with player wages - not NPLV demands.

The stoush turned ugly last week, with the aggrieved group even threatening to report the FFV under the Privacy Act and Spam Act after the governing body used the group's mail out list to send out updates on the NPLV selection progress.

Doubts have emerged regarding the aggrieved group's strength, with many of the 51 clubs listed as part of their action never submitting an expression of interest to begin with.

Victorian Premier League giant Richmond, meanwhile, released a statement condemning the action group for including its name without approval.

"If as a club we decide to withdraw from the process then we will send out our own communication accordingly," it read.

Richmond will convene a meeting for its members tonight to discuss the prospect of applying but Leader understands the club faces major economic hurdles should it seek a licence.

Meanwhile, Kalas has defended the action group's decision to cancel talks with the FFV over the proposed model.

An invitation to chief executive Mitchell Murphy and general manager of football Tim Frampton to attend a discussion meeting last month was withdrawn at the 11th hour due to "sensitive information being discussed" - despite FFV board member Kimon Taliadoros attending the meeting - and Leader has seen an email chain detailing Tsiaras's repeated rejections for correspondence.

"That meeting on that day, the reason I asked for it to be called off was that they were actively still talking to clubs who've withdrawn their process," Kalas said.

"We felt that if we'd have gone to the meeting they would have used that statement to say they were still talking to clubs. I want people to understand that there are no discussions until they halt the process."

Werribee City, Sunshine George Cross and FC Bulleen are believed to be seeking a NPLV licence.

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Here we go again, SMFC causing controversy OH NOOO!! again
What is the difference between Mr Clive Palmer and SMFC that answer is NO DIFFERENCE, both like to be continuously on the news, both think the whole World is against them, both think everybody must listen to their private concerns, both of them appear to have a huge chip on their shoulder, both are ALWAYS RATINAL AND RIGHT according to themselves
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ooopps, the o did not show just in case you are searching for the word RATINAL, meant to be RATIONAL
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ELBRUJO wrote:
Here we go again, SMFC causing controversy OH NOOO!! again
What is the difference between Mr Clive Palmer and SMFC that answer is NO DIFFERENCE, both like to be continuously on the news, both think the whole World is against them, both think everybody must listen to their private concerns, both of them appear to have a huge chip on their shoulder, both are ALWAYS RATINAL AND RIGHT according to themselves


50 clubs Elbrujo. 50. Not SMFC. 50 clubs. Shall I repeat it again in case you haven't noticed the other 49?
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Sometime people only see what they want to see.

Perfect indicator of fear.

-PB

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ELBRUJO wrote:
Here we go again, SMFC causing controversy OH NOOO!! again
What is the difference between Mr Clive Palmer and SMFC that answer is NO DIFFERENCE, both like to be continuously on the news, both think the whole World is against them, both think everybody must listen to their private concerns, both of them appear to have a huge chip on their shoulder, both are ALWAYS RATINAL AND RIGHT according to themselves


Your a funny guy !!

http://m.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/a-league-owners-step-up-battle-with-ffa-to-get-greater-influence-in-running-of-game/story-e6frf4gl-1226681092073

I guess Smfc is to blame for the 6 Aleague clubs forming an Association to fight for a better deal with the FFA too

Read the article attached, clown
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Troy5 wrote:
ELBRUJO wrote:
Here we go again, SMFC causing controversy OH NOOO!! again
What is the difference between Mr Clive Palmer and SMFC that answer is NO DIFFERENCE, both like to be continuously on the news, both think the whole World is against them, both think everybody must listen to their private concerns, both of them appear to have a huge chip on their shoulder, both are ALWAYS RATINAL AND RIGHT according to themselves


Your a funny guy !!

http://m.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/a-league-owners-step-up-battle-with-ffa-to-get-greater-influence-in-running-of-game/story-e6frf4gl-1226681092073

I guess Smfc is to blame for the 6 Aleague clubs forming an Association to fight for a better deal with the FFA too

Read the article attached, clown


Excellent get Troy5 goes to show that the game has festering "Governance" issues at all levels that need to be addressed.

Or on further reflection are the interests of Clubs and the interests of Governing Bodies (FFA & State Federations) becomming divergent to say the least?
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It's always about Clubs vs. Governing Bodies... what matters most is the development of the game and what is in the best interests of the players.

Have we lost sight of this among all the power play, vote getting and posturing?

I for one just want to coach at the highest possible level and add value by developing future stars. And kids just wanna play.

I know everyone wants to do the right thing but we have all lost our way and gotten too far ahead of ourselves.

Instead of having our heads in the clouds, we need to collectively get our boots planted firmly back on the pitch and play "foodball farkin".
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ELBRUJO wrote:
ooopps, the o did not show just in case you are searching for the word RATINAL, meant to be RATIONAL


you sir frankly are a farken drop kick...
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Hawk Saint Victory wrote:
It's always about Clubs vs. Governing Bodies... what matters most is the development of the game and what is in the best interests of the players.

Have we lost sight of this among all the power play, vote getting and posturing?

I for one just want to coach at the highest possible level and add value by developing future stars. And kids just wanna play.

I know everyone wants to do the right thing but we have all lost our way and gotten too far ahead of ourselves.

Instead of having our heads in the clouds, we need to collectively get our boots planted firmly back on the pitch and play "foodball farkin".


And as a young coach, do you believe that your best interests, and those of young players, are best served by having strong and stable clubs?
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Benjamin wrote:
Hawk Saint Victory wrote:
It's always about Clubs vs. Governing Bodies... what matters most is the development of the game and what is in the best interests of the players.

Have we lost sight of this among all the power play, vote getting and posturing?

I for one just want to coach at the highest possible level and add value by developing future stars. And kids just wanna play.

I know everyone wants to do the right thing but we have all lost our way and gotten too far ahead of ourselves.

Instead of having our heads in the clouds, we need to collectively get our boots planted firmly back on the pitch and play "foodball farkin".


And as a young coach, do you believe that your best interests, and those of young players, are best served by having strong and stable clubs?


I do but I also believe we need good governance as well. Logically to have a stable and viable system you require both to be functioning relatively equally.

I just want to ensure we don't lose sight of why we all strive to improve the game. Whether from a club perspective or governance.

Its all about the round ball.
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