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zimbos_05 wrote:
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Youngsters see guidance counsellors because Zayn Malik got engaged and now their lives are over. Guidance counsellors then spend all their time trying to tell them that it is ok and their life will be fine and they dont need to cry and cut their wrists about it. We then give these people more attention on mainstream media etc etc etc.


Just so I'm clear here, do you think people like this don't deserve to be getting any help? I'm sorry but "toughen the fuck up" is the wrong attitude to have, especially about mental health issues where it's hard to speak up and get help for in the first place.


Im not saying that we shouldnt help people if their is the need. But seriously, you telling me that something like this is an issue that needs guidance counselling and psychology. People were on twitter threatening to kill her if anything happened to Zayn. Heck they threatened to kill Gabriel Agbonlahor for his tackle on Louis Tomlinson. Thats just retarded. Thats not an issue that needs guidance counselling. Its an issue that requires a good hard look at our society and education system.


I completely agree that 12 year olds sending death threats is fucked up and pathetic, but I didn't think that was the point you were originally trying to make. As stupid or immature as a problem might be, if it is impacting the life of the person more than it reasonably should, then I believe it deserves to be dealt with.
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Seriously though, if you are struggling, speak up about it - let someone know. It's a really hard thing to do, but it's so so worth it.
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zimbos_05 wrote:
KiwiChick1 wrote:

zimbos_05 wrote:
Youngsters see guidance counsellors because Zayn Malik got engaged and now their lives are over. Guidance counsellors then spend all their time trying to tell them that it is ok and their life will be fine and they dont need to cry and cut their wrists about it. We then give these people more attention on mainstream media etc etc etc.


Just so I'm clear here, do you think people like this don't deserve to be getting any help? I'm sorry but "toughen the fuck up" is the wrong attitude to have, especially about mental health issues where it's hard to speak up and get help for in the first place.


Im not saying that we shouldnt help people if their is the need. But seriously, you telling me that something like this is an issue that needs guidance counselling and psychology. People were on twitter threatening to kill her if anything happened to Zayn. Heck they threatened to kill Gabriel Agbonlahor for his tackle on Louis Tomlinson. Thats just retarded. Thats not an issue that needs guidance counselling. Its an issue that requires a good hard look at our society and education system.


I think typically that is a pretty early teen thing. I can't say I know anyone who is seriously like that.
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KiwiChick1 wrote:
zimbos_05 wrote:
KiwiChick1 wrote:

zimbos_05 wrote:
Youngsters see guidance counsellors because Zayn Malik got engaged and now their lives are over. Guidance counsellors then spend all their time trying to tell them that it is ok and their life will be fine and they dont need to cry and cut their wrists about it. We then give these people more attention on mainstream media etc etc etc.


Just so I'm clear here, do you think people like this don't deserve to be getting any help? I'm sorry but "toughen the fuck up" is the wrong attitude to have, especially about mental health issues where it's hard to speak up and get help for in the first place.


Im not saying that we shouldnt help people if their is the need. But seriously, you telling me that something like this is an issue that needs guidance counselling and psychology. People were on twitter threatening to kill her if anything happened to Zayn. Heck they threatened to kill Gabriel Agbonlahor for his tackle on Louis Tomlinson. Thats just retarded. Thats not an issue that needs guidance counselling. Its an issue that requires a good hard look at our society and education system.


I completely agree that 12 year olds sending death threats is fucked up and pathetic, but I didn't think that was the point you were originally trying to make. As stupid or immature as a problem might be, if it is impacting the life of the person more than it reasonably should, then I believe it deserves to be dealt with.


Getting upset about a one direction member getting engaged and crying about it is not an issue.

I agree some people have problems that seem immature but are actually have deep issues. If anyone knows about issues i know about it. I dont even have a best friend. I always think people find me weird and peculiar and try to avoid me. When we go to parties, people who sit next to me tend to give the feeling like they bored, not sure what to talk to me about it. It happens with my cousins too. I really only get on with a few of my girl cousins.

The point is though, we tend to over focus on issues and make it seem as if people have problems and issues. Not everyone has an issue or a problem, since when did our society become so focussed on issues and everyone has them.


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KiwiChick1 wrote:

zimbos_05 wrote:
Youngsters see guidance counsellors because Zayn Malik got engaged and now their lives are over. Guidance counsellors then spend all their time trying to tell them that it is ok and their life will be fine and they dont need to cry and cut their wrists about it. We then give these people more attention on mainstream media etc etc etc.


Just so I'm clear here, do you think people like this don't deserve to be getting any help? I'm sorry but "toughen the fuck up" is the wrong attitude to have, especially about mental health issues where it's hard to speak up and get help for in the first place.


Im not saying that we shouldnt help people if their is the need. But seriously, you telling me that something like this is an issue that needs guidance counselling and psychology. People were on twitter threatening to kill her if anything happened to Zayn. Heck they threatened to kill Gabriel Agbonlahor for his tackle on Louis Tomlinson. Thats just retarded. Thats not an issue that needs guidance counselling. Its an issue that requires a good hard look at our society and education system.


I think typically that is a pretty early teen thing. I can't say I know anyone who is seriously like that.


I think im comparing western society to how things were in zim. In school we were taught to grow up and become adults in zim. Here they teach you to run to the guidance counsellor and if teachers shout you you can complain or call child services. Make it seem like the kids have more rights than the adults.
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zimbos_05 wrote:
Getting upset about a one direction member getting engaged and crying about it is not an issue.

I agree some people have problems that seem immature but are actually have deep issues. If anyone knows about issues i know about it. I dont even have a best friend. I always think people find me weird and peculiar and try to avoid me. When we go to parties, people who sit next to me tend to give the feeling like they bored, not sure what to talk to me about it. It happens with my cousins too. I really only get on with a few of my girl cousins.

The point is though, we tend to over focus on issues and make it seem as if people have problems and issues. Not everyone has an issue or a problem, since when did our society become so focussed on issues and everyone has them.


For a young girl with a crush on the members of their favourite boyband, crying about the engagement of one is not that outrageous. They will get over it, they will move on. That is not an issue. However, if the case is like in your original post, where a girl is self harming and in distress over it, that is a problem as it is affecting her life more than it should.

I'm really sorry dude, that stuff all sucks :( I understand the cousin thing, there's only one who I get along with rather well, but a lot of that is due to age difference. For the record, I don't think you're weird or peculiar, I think you're a good guy.

No, not everyone does have issues. Some are overexaggerated, some create problems for attention, etc (I'm sure we all know someone who makes up a whole lot of shit), but lots of people do have problems. Mental illness is more common than people realise.
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The more today wears on the more I see people using this as a reason to validate their own narcissism the other 364 days of the year.
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afromanGT wrote:
The more today wears on the more I see people using this as a reason to validate their own narcissism the other 364 days of the year.


:-s ?
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So many peepz on my facebook wall talked about this. Most be like "why do you need a RUOK day? Shouldn't you be asking that everyday?". I think the purpose of the day is you take it upon yourself to actually ask that everyday yourself. Even if it changes half a dozen people, the day was a success. It got people talking about something they normally wouldn't.

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zimbos_05 wrote:

I think im comparing western society to how things were in zim. In school we were taught to grow up and become adults in zim. Here they teach you to run to the guidance counsellor and if teachers shout you you can complain or call child services. Make it seem like the kids have more rights than the adults.


'cause things are going swimmingly over there.

Now personally, if something is troubling me, talking to someone about it helps. A lot of my friends find the same approach works. Alternatively, listening to some heavy metal also helps depending on the situation. It is rather unfair to berate other people's coping mechanisms.
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its a good initiative, i am not going to reveal too much but i had various issues throughout my life, social anxiety, depression, suicidal thoughts etc and anything related to mental health has a massive stigma on it.

i believe(could be wrong here but i am fairly up to date) that the highest rate of death's is suicide for males between 15-25 or something and same with males between 40 to 60, something around that anyways and it is fast becoming one of the biggest health issues that society faces.


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KiwiChick1 wrote:
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The more today wears on the more I see people using this as a reason to validate their own narcissism the other 364 days of the year.


:-s ?

It's like there's one day a year for people to kid themselves that they're a 'good' friend by asking if their 'friends' are OK. You should be doing that all the time, not just because there's some day telling you to.

I'm all for raising awareness of mental health, but I think this trivialises it more than anything.
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afromanGT wrote:
KiwiChick1 wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
The more today wears on the more I see people using this as a reason to validate their own narcissism the other 364 days of the year.


:-s ?

It's like there's one day a year for people to kid themselves that they're a 'good' friend by asking if their 'friends' are OK. You should be doing that all the time, not just because there's some day telling you to.

I'm all for raising awareness of mental health, but I think this trivialises it more than anything.
IMO what this day is meant to do is remind those affected to seek help and, more importantly, remind those of us lucky enough not to be to make connections with our friends who are suffering from depression and not simply assume they're ok.

It's not about just one day.

And forget about the narcissistic, nothing changes them.

Edited by thupercoach: 14/9/2013 06:57:04 AM
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I think it'd be a better idea to invest more effort into Beyond Blue and helping people reach out than encouraging people to reach out to them one day a year in some token gesture that hides their ignorance.
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afromanGT wrote:
I think it'd be a better idea to invest more effort into Beyond Blue and helping people reach out than encouraging people to reach out to them one day a year in some token gesture that hides their ignorance.


It might help to stop people from being so ignorant.
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KiwiChick1 wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
I think it'd be a better idea to invest more effort into Beyond Blue and helping people reach out than encouraging people to reach out to them one day a year in some token gesture that hides their ignorance.


It might help to stop people from being so ignorant.
This. It's just another way of highlighting the depression problem we have in this country.

Btw, Beyond Blue do a great job.

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Like I said, I don't think it highlights anything, all it does is let people kid themselves that they care for 24 hours while they're self-centred dicks the other 364 days of the year.
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afromanGT wrote:
Like I said, I don't think it highlights anything, all it does is let people kid themselves that they care for 24 hours while they're self-centred dicks the other 364 days of the year.
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