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Eastern Glory wrote:afromanGT wrote:Eastern Glory wrote:afromanGT wrote:Pro-Israel, Anti-Israel, whatever your stance we can all agree that there's no place for this in sport. The athletes are there to give their all for their country just like everybody else.
Can't we all just get along? What country? Hard to say they have athletes when Qatar don't recognise them as a country :-k The question I have is how did the Israelis get into Qatar with passports from a country that doesn't exist?! If you can be from Gibraltar, Basque or Catalunya and represent your 'country' then why can't Israel? I'm not going to get into the whole debate as to whether they 'deserve' to be a country or not because every man and his dog has a strong opinion on that but what I will say is that the actions of Qatar to defy the conventional acceptance of the international community is belligerent and immature. It's the international equivalent of a school child going "Lalala I can't see you, I can't hear you, lalala" because the person on the desk opposite them's books keep slipping onto their desk. Qatar refuses to acknowledge them as a country and therefore were never going to show the flag. Simple. My question remains about how the athletes actually got into Qatar :lol: Can you imagine the international uproar Netanyahu would have started? :lol:
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Eastern Glory
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It would have been fantastic :lol:
Until it resulted in bombings, then the hypothetical scenario would become very sad.
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It shouldn't matter whether Qatar recognises Israel or not, Israel is a member of FINA, if it didn't want to recognise Israel then it shouldn't of hosted an event that Israel is a part of.
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Yep, it's not about recognising countries, it's about recognising the member association (or whatever they call them) in the world swimming body FINA, just as is done with members of FIFA, which is the clear obligation of hosts of a tournament.
Not one single host of the Olympics or World Cup recognise the state of the Republic of China, but Chinese Taipei have been welcomed to qualify to all of them, and if a host country tore down their flag it'd be unthinkable.
Apples and apples, going by this argument.
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Davis_Patik
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zimbos_05 wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:
There is absolutely no reason for any animosity toward Israel, there is nothing to understand except that it is totally unjustified persecution of Israel. Israel are totally mistreated by the Arab nations.
I really really hope you are being sarcastic. Lets just forget their illegal occupation and persecution of the people of Palestine and the Palestinian state. There is no such thing as the Palestinian state, it is Israel, all of it is Israel. To call it any other name is a disgrace. Israel occupy nothing but what is rightfully theirs and all they get for it is persecution by Arabs.
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paladisious
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Davis_Patik wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:
There is absolutely no reason for any animosity toward Israel, there is nothing to understand except that it is totally unjustified persecution of Israel. Israel are totally mistreated by the Arab nations.
I really really hope you are being sarcastic. Lets just forget their illegal occupation and persecution of the people of Palestine and the Palestinian state. There is no such thing as the Palestinian state, it is Israel, all of it is Israel. To call it any other name is a disgrace. Israel occupy nothing but what is rightfully theirs and all they get for it is persecution by Arabs. I've just started a religion called Paladisiousism which states that your house is rightfully mine. I'll swing by for the keys tomorrow, kthnx.
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paladisious wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:
There is absolutely no reason for any animosity toward Israel, there is nothing to understand except that it is totally unjustified persecution of Israel. Israel are totally mistreated by the Arab nations.
I really really hope you are being sarcastic. Lets just forget their illegal occupation and persecution of the people of Palestine and the Palestinian state. There is no such thing as the Palestinian state, it is Israel, all of it is Israel. To call it any other name is a disgrace. Israel occupy nothing but what is rightfully theirs and all they get for it is persecution by Arabs. I've just started a religion called Paladisiousism which states that your house is rightfully mine. I'll swing by for the keys tomorrow, kthnx. If you can get the United Nations to give you my house then you are welcome to it.
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paladisious
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Davis_Patik wrote:paladisious wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:
There is absolutely no reason for any animosity toward Israel, there is nothing to understand except that it is totally unjustified persecution of Israel. Israel are totally mistreated by the Arab nations.
I really really hope you are being sarcastic. Lets just forget their illegal occupation and persecution of the people of Palestine and the Palestinian state. There is no such thing as the Palestinian state, it is Israel, all of it is Israel. To call it any other name is a disgrace. Israel occupy nothing but what is rightfully theirs and all they get for it is persecution by Arabs. I've just started a religion called Paladisiousism which states that your house is rightfully mine. I'll swing by for the keys tomorrow, kthnx. If you can get the United Nations to give you my house then you are welcome to it. UN never gave Israel parts that they've since grabbed, but.
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paladisious
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This thread:  What a shock. :lol:
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Davis_Patik
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paladisious wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:paladisious wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:
There is absolutely no reason for any animosity toward Israel, there is nothing to understand except that it is totally unjustified persecution of Israel. Israel are totally mistreated by the Arab nations.
I really really hope you are being sarcastic. Lets just forget their illegal occupation and persecution of the people of Palestine and the Palestinian state. There is no such thing as the Palestinian state, it is Israel, all of it is Israel. To call it any other name is a disgrace. Israel occupy nothing but what is rightfully theirs and all they get for it is persecution by Arabs. I've just started a religion called Paladisiousism which states that your house is rightfully mine. I'll swing by for the keys tomorrow, kthnx. If you can get the United Nations to give you my house then you are welcome to it. UN never gave Israel parts that they've since grabbed, but. You mean the bits the Arabs lost after they stupidly attacked Israel. If the Arabs had not attacked Israel then those areas would not be in Israel's control. They should not complain about what they did to themselves.
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afromanGT wrote:Pro-Israel, Anti-Israel, whatever your stance we can all agree that there's no place for this in sport. The athletes are there to give their all for their country just like everybody else.
Can't we all just get along? [youtube]dEkpGhmIC_U[/youtube]
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Could say the Syrian crisis is being airbrushed out of all the media . Here is one for you all , Syrian civilian casualties are being smuggled into Israel for medical attention , and being returned when well enough to do so . Not being reported for fear of reprisals against the wounded . Carry on.
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Davis_Patik wrote:paladisious wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:paladisious wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:
There is absolutely no reason for any animosity toward Israel, there is nothing to understand except that it is totally unjustified persecution of Israel. Israel are totally mistreated by the Arab nations.
I really really hope you are being sarcastic. Lets just forget their illegal occupation and persecution of the people of Palestine and the Palestinian state. There is no such thing as the Palestinian state, it is Israel, all of it is Israel. To call it any other name is a disgrace. Israel occupy nothing but what is rightfully theirs and all they get for it is persecution by Arabs. I've just started a religion called Paladisiousism which states that your house is rightfully mine. I'll swing by for the keys tomorrow, kthnx. If you can get the United Nations to give you my house then you are welcome to it. UN never gave Israel parts that they've since grabbed, but. You mean the bits the Arabs lost after they stupidly attacked Israel. If the Arabs had not attacked Israel then those areas would not be in Israel's control. They should not complain about what they did to themselves. I actually have no words to respond to such idiotic sentiments.
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zimbos_05 wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:paladisious wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:paladisious wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:
There is absolutely no reason for any animosity toward Israel, there is nothing to understand except that it is totally unjustified persecution of Israel. Israel are totally mistreated by the Arab nations.
I really really hope you are being sarcastic. Lets just forget their illegal occupation and persecution of the people of Palestine and the Palestinian state. There is no such thing as the Palestinian state, it is Israel, all of it is Israel. To call it any other name is a disgrace. Israel occupy nothing but what is rightfully theirs and all they get for it is persecution by Arabs. I've just started a religion called Paladisiousism which states that your house is rightfully mine. I'll swing by for the keys tomorrow, kthnx. If you can get the United Nations to give you my house then you are welcome to it. UN never gave Israel parts that they've since grabbed, but. You mean the bits the Arabs lost after they stupidly attacked Israel. If the Arabs had not attacked Israel then those areas would not be in Israel's control. They should not complain about what they did to themselves. I actually have no words to respond to such idiotic sentiments. To be fair the territories won in '67 were because of an Israeli preemptive attack. Not that it wasn't duly provoked as the Egyptian, Syrian and Jordanian armies massed on Israel's borders each fielding 100000, 75000 and 55000 troops respectively.
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paladisious
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YerNathanael wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:paladisious wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:paladisious wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:
There is absolutely no reason for any animosity toward Israel, there is nothing to understand except that it is totally unjustified persecution of Israel. Israel are totally mistreated by the Arab nations.
I really really hope you are being sarcastic. Lets just forget their illegal occupation and persecution of the people of Palestine and the Palestinian state. There is no such thing as the Palestinian state, it is Israel, all of it is Israel. To call it any other name is a disgrace. Israel occupy nothing but what is rightfully theirs and all they get for it is persecution by Arabs. I've just started a religion called Paladisiousism which states that your house is rightfully mine. I'll swing by for the keys tomorrow, kthnx. If you can get the United Nations to give you my house then you are welcome to it. UN never gave Israel parts that they've since grabbed, but. You mean the bits the Arabs lost after they stupidly attacked Israel. If the Arabs had not attacked Israel then those areas would not be in Israel's control. They should not complain about what they did to themselves. I actually have no words to respond to such idiotic sentiments. To be fair the territories won in '67 were because of an Israeli preemptive attack. Not that it wasn't duly provoked as the Egyptian, Syrian and Jordanian armies massed on Israel's borders each fielding 100000, 75000 and 55000 troops respectively. I love it how he justifies Israel originally getting their land via the UN, and then also saying they deserve the extra lebensraum thanks to winning a war, even though the UN condemned it. I'm on neither side of the debate, for the record, it's just when anyone weighs in with so much stupid I can't help it. :-$
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paladisious wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:
There is absolutely no reason for any animosity toward Israel, there is nothing to understand except that it is totally unjustified persecution of Israel. Israel are totally mistreated by the Arab nations.
I really really hope you are being sarcastic. Lets just forget their illegal occupation and persecution of the people of Palestine and the Palestinian state. There is no such thing as the Palestinian state, it is Israel, all of it is Israel. To call it any other name is a disgrace. Israel occupy nothing but what is rightfully theirs and all they get for it is persecution by Arabs. I've just started a religion called Paladisiousism which states that your house is rightfully mine. I'll swing by for the keys tomorrow, kthnx. Where do I sign up oh great one.
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None of this debate has made Qatar any better of a host, by the way.
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Iridium1010 wrote:paladisious wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:
There is absolutely no reason for any animosity toward Israel, there is nothing to understand except that it is totally unjustified persecution of Israel. Israel are totally mistreated by the Arab nations.
I really really hope you are being sarcastic. Lets just forget their illegal occupation and persecution of the people of Palestine and the Palestinian state. There is no such thing as the Palestinian state, it is Israel, all of it is Israel. To call it any other name is a disgrace. Israel occupy nothing but what is rightfully theirs and all they get for it is persecution by Arabs. I've just started a religion called Paladisiousism which states that your house is rightfully mine. I'll swing by for the keys tomorrow, kthnx. Where do I sign up oh great one. Rites are still in pre-planning phase, but I assume it'll be .gif related.
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paladisious wrote:YerNathanael wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:paladisious wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:paladisious wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:
There is absolutely no reason for any animosity toward Israel, there is nothing to understand except that it is totally unjustified persecution of Israel. Israel are totally mistreated by the Arab nations.
I really really hope you are being sarcastic. Lets just forget their illegal occupation and persecution of the people of Palestine and the Palestinian state. There is no such thing as the Palestinian state, it is Israel, all of it is Israel. To call it any other name is a disgrace. Israel occupy nothing but what is rightfully theirs and all they get for it is persecution by Arabs. I've just started a religion called Paladisiousism which states that your house is rightfully mine. I'll swing by for the keys tomorrow, kthnx. If you can get the United Nations to give you my house then you are welcome to it. UN never gave Israel parts that they've since grabbed, but. You mean the bits the Arabs lost after they stupidly attacked Israel. If the Arabs had not attacked Israel then those areas would not be in Israel's control. They should not complain about what they did to themselves. I actually have no words to respond to such idiotic sentiments. To be fair the territories won in '67 were because of an Israeli preemptive attack. Not that it wasn't duly provoked as the Egyptian, Syrian and Jordanian armies massed on Israel's borders each fielding 100000, 75000 and 55000 troops respectively. I love it how he justifies Israel originally getting their land via the UN, and then also saying they deserve the extra lebensraum thanks to winning a war, even though the UN condemned it. I'm on neither side of the debate, for the record, it's just when anyone weighs in with so much stupid I can't help it. :-$ I agree that conquest doesn't equate to ownership and there was a huge debacle over the wording of the UN Resolution 242 at the end of the war. The whole thing is a mess, I for one am for separate Palistinian state.
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afromanGT wrote:Pro-Israel, Anti-Israel, whatever your stance we can all agree that there's no place for this in sport. The athletes are there to give their all for their country just like everybody else.
Can't we all just get along? You teaching us what belongs and doesn't in sport or in life in general? Go fuck yourself.
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paladisious wrote:Iridium1010 wrote:paladisious wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:Davis_Patik wrote:
There is absolutely no reason for any animosity toward Israel, there is nothing to understand except that it is totally unjustified persecution of Israel. Israel are totally mistreated by the Arab nations.
I really really hope you are being sarcastic. Lets just forget their illegal occupation and persecution of the people of Palestine and the Palestinian state. There is no such thing as the Palestinian state, it is Israel, all of it is Israel. To call it any other name is a disgrace. Israel occupy nothing but what is rightfully theirs and all they get for it is persecution by Arabs. I've just started a religion called Paladisiousism which states that your house is rightfully mine. I'll swing by for the keys tomorrow, kthnx. Where do I sign up oh great one. Rites are still in pre-planning phase, but I assume it'll be .gif related. No thanks, I'm forming a break away religion.
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paladisious wrote: I love it how he justifies Israel originally getting their land via the UN, and then also saying they deserve the extra lebensraum thanks to winning a war, even though the UN condemned it.
I'm on neither side of the debate, for the record, it's just when anyone weighs in with so much stupid I can't help it. :-$
It would help if you used English words, I have no idea what lebensraum is supposed to be. I am against all war including the wars that the Arabs started and lost but if you start a war and lose it I am not sure how you can complain about the result. If the Arabs had not attacked Israel then Israel would not have any different borders to those the UN gave them. Israel is not the problem it is the Arabs inability to accept that Israel should exist and others who fall for anti-Israel propaganda and believe the same. That is not to say I agree with everything Israel does, I certainly do not, but I extremely strongly believe that Israel should exist.
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Edited by Davis_Patik: 24/10/2013 06:35:36 PM
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Oh boy.
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Iridium1010 wrote:Oh boy.
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I got a very nice PM from Davis. I must say, this is the first time i've ever encountered this kind of childish behaviour from someone who strongly supports Israel.
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zimbos_05 wrote:I got a very nice PM from Davis. I must say, this is the first time i've ever encountered this kind of childish behaviour from someone who strongly supports Israel. Supporting the existence of Israel is childish. It says a lot about you if that is what you think.
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I knew this was how this thread would turn out :lol:
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[youtube]1k9IlR3-_-A[/youtube]
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Nice clip notorganic. I loved The West Wing. He should have put the map up.
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