Wrong thread dude

Any advice for losing weight apart from cutting out as much breads/carbs and sugars as possible?

I can confirm it aint Draupy.
:lol:

Have to ask socawho.

Does your cousin go for good looking guys or ones with charisma?

It's not all about looks. I mean, I don't consider myself ugly, but many m80s on here can attest to my exploits. Personality counts for a lot.

your right about the above but i believe most girls will go
for looks and a guy that looks after himself physically.
i hate saying it but its true....and im an average looking guy.
have you ever watched that reality show " average joe"...the hot chick went with looks and build over personality and wealth.
id be rich every time i saw a hot girl with a tradie type or a gym junkie with the tatts and the bad boy look.
if theres one thing i cant stand more is people giving advice to give false hope than to give the hard cold truth.
how many fat guys do you see with hot chicks?
that answer will give you a reality check...im sorry it sounds shallow but its a shallow world we live in

Edited by Socawho: 1/12/2015 01:14:22 PM

Only dudes with pedestrian personalities think this. It's cliche (though a lot of cliches are grounded in reality) to say, but you will have a lot more success with confidence and charisma than just not being fat (up to a point- not being physically able to leave the house is pretty hard to work with.) The thing is, for a lot of people weight training and exercise will help them combat their issues that prevent them from being confident. Very few overweight/out of shape people have the confidence and self belief to be interesting and charismatic to strangers, let alone people they are interested in romantically/sexually. I've run the gamut of super fit to fairly fat, and I've had no trouble at any point dating (or finding casual hook-ups)... at least since I first got fit. Before then I was a lot like salmon in that I was very body-negative and had zero confidence as a result. Getting fit gave me the confidence to put my personality out there, and once I realised people actually liked my personality the confidence stayed regardless of how my body fluctuated.

There will always be people who aren't interested in you, the important thing to realise is there are so many people available that it really doesn't matter if you don't get on with someone. Discover what you are passionate about and get excited about it around other people and the ones that matter will gravitate to you.

* Standards is another thing. Don't restrict yourself by judging people purely on appearance if you don't want the same done to you. Doesn't mean you can't/won't date "hot" people, but don't use it as your sole reason for being interested in someone. Plenty of super attractive people have all sorts of niche interests that may align with yours, but so do a lot of plain/average/overweight looking people and actual connections can lead to physical attraction beyond the superficial given a chance.

Salmon, don't get fit for others, get fit for yourself (not as in you NEED to get fit, as in don't be doing it just so you can pick up)

I reckon the only time you can get away with being fat or looking really average and being able to pull chicks is if you are rich mofo or have a high profile on the celebrity circuit.
Exhibit A...Kyle Sandilands.
Exhibit B...Geoff Edelsten
If you don't have any of these traits the highest you can probably aim for is a 5/10 chick..and even then you would be lucky.

I don't buy that bullshit about personality wins out. Personality is for sussing out whether someone is marriage material...not for getting a foot into the door to start with...if you're no oil painting its pretty hard to let personality shine when you get shut down quick smart on initial looks.

Edited by SocaWho: 1/12/2015 11:07:07 AM

Edited by SocaWho: 1/12/2015 11:07:21 AM

Yeah I don't agree with pretty much all of that personality vs physique stuff, especially the women in their 30s/40s shit. That's some serious red pill shit right there haha.

It's simple. If he's more buff than other guys and has a better attitude than other guys, he'll get the chicks.

i tend to disagree.
Aussie girls are heavily influenced by looks more than personality.
I used to know a ton of dudes in high school that did well with ladies on their looks yet had a personality of a doorknob.
you do really need to brush up on your physique if you are after the poon.
lets face it, you cant have a physique like seth rogan or jonah hill and hope that personality will get you poon on its own.
I think personality plays more of a part when women are in their 30s , 40s



Edited by Socawho: 1/12/2015 02:27:43 AM

I get the feeling we've all slept with Draupy in someway or another. :lol: We've all at least shared a hole/orifice at some point in time.

No it isn't. He has just turned 16, he will be the centre of attention if he stands out physically at high school.

Everything else you said I agree with.

'Lifting' to get girls to 'flock to you' is about the worst advice youve been given here.
Be healthy physically. Learn more and follow your passions academically and professionally as you grow up. Youll find people (boys, girls, pot-plants, whatever the fuck youre into) with whom you can actually connect with on a comfortable level and youll be fine.
Dont get sucked into thinking blokes at your school are slaying different chicks every weekend. They arent.

Edited by roary's mane: 1/12/2015 12:34:16 AM

Much thanks to all my fans here.

Oh and Salmon:

- Start lifting
- Lose weight
- Get a proper skincare routine if you have acne

That's it. You'll gain more confidence and girls will flock to you.



Edited by 433: 30/11/2015 11:43:50 PM

Also KC it sucks to hear that your anxiety is still a problem, I hope you're getting help for it now, cause you're one of my favourite posters on FFT.

I imagine this is what it's like to be popular.

I leave this place for 5 mins and every ones after salmon :lol:

I would say it depends how pervasive it is in his life and how far from "normal" his behaviour is considered to be. Admittedly I know rather little about personality disorders, and even less about how they're diagnosed, so you might be right. I just don't think abusive people have to have some kind of mental illness to explain why they're abusive.
But if salmon does think that this is something that could be applicable to his dad (because obviously he's going to know this best), then learning about it and how to deal with it could certainly help him.



This. I didn't deal with my shit when it became a problem, and so it still is a problem. It sucks because it's not your fault that this has happened to you, yet you have to be the one to fix it.

Anyway, I think that's enough of my 2 cents.

If the behaviour isn't considered normal and is systematic then I don't see why it's not ok to call it a personality disorder. Mental illness is a bit of a loaded term and people instantly think certain things but giving something a label and understanding what it's all about is can really help when you have to deal with someone showing these traits. Of course this is where a professional is really helpful.

Like KiwiChick said mate, go see a professional. If you seriously need help finding one, I can help you find one fairly easily. Don't be afraid either. Way too many people don't wait until they're older, and are miserable for yeaaaars because they didn't deal with it ASAP. It's better to be shy and embarrassed (which you won't be when you actually get in there and realise that they are there to help you) when you're young than miserable for years on end.

I dunno if he's a narcissist, but he's certainly an arsehole and it's going to take me months, if not years, to get over the damage having him as a father has caused. Not just the the shit he has done, but the things that as a father he should've done but never did.

That doesn't necessarily mean he's lacking in empathy and doesn't understand/care that he's causing pain to others. Abusive? Yes. But overall lacking in empathy? Not something I would say for sure based on the information presented. Like I said, just my opinion.

(Just want to make it clear that I do think he is abusive, manipulative and controlling. I'm not trying to defend his behaviour or say that it's okay or normal.)

So you actually think that #7, the lacking of empathy hasn't been shown even though he treats everyone like shit, then apologies (because he knows he treated them like shit - he's not oblivious and just a shit person), and then treats them like shit again? It's 100% clear cut.

I disagree that any of those have been covered based on what salmon has said, but that's just my opinion, and obviously there's a lot more than just that. However, not everything is a mental illness, people can just be horrible because that's how they are.

dubbelz

Edited by Draupnir: 30/11/2015 11:34:07 AM

100%. Like I said salmon, there's plenty of confidential places for youths.

This is good advice.

The Mrs. mum had a few issues growing up and never addressed them. They are seriously affecting her life and her daughters life. Her mum essentially finds problems with everything because she can't trust.

Salmon, see someone to help you help yourself. Seeing someone not deal with issues for 30 years and the affects on her life, it's in your best interests to deal with the issues before they control your life :)

1: Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognised as superior without commensurate achievements).
4: Requires excessive admiration.
6: Is inter-personally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends.
7: Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognise or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
9: Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.

From what Salmon has said those all seem fairly obvious.

Not to mention these next ones that Salmon will probably confirm.

2: Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
5: Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations.

That's out of a checklist of 9 things in the DSM.

Edited by Draupnir: 30/11/2015 08:36:50 AM