lol @Lester how did Ange score 100 points and Holger 0? I like Ange better too, but he has won 1 friendly. Holger qualified (though unconvincingly) to a World Cup and the AFC Cup Final.

Also, watch some replays. Lucas was heavily at fault.

Holger would still be in the job had he avoided playing Brazil and France. I am sure the performance tonight would have been similar under Holger. We could play football tonight because we were allowed to. I'd have loved to see what Ange would have done differently against Brazil and France - if he's smart he would have said 'no thanks' when asked if he wanted those games.

Muppet.

SOCCEROOS TO WIN THE WORLD CUP

We were allowed to play football against sides like Jordan, Iraq and Oman, but we didn't.

UNDER ANGE

The world was good in Melbourne - we played well, didn't come close to conceding and we scored 4 goals. I remember reading the forums and nobody was saying anything negative. The Iraq game was understandbly tense but we got the result that mattered after a brave substitution. There will be off-nights like Oman for Ange's teams too. Ange wants a high energy game like tonight - how is he going to do that in 42C in Qatar and Jordan? He will need to adapt to the conditions. Let's wait and see for the next qualifiers how he goes, eh? I suspect there will be some pain down the track

What is going on with your sig? :shock:

Watching the replay now, and it does look more positive. Also i dont yhink ange ever resort to bombing long balls. Im not sure if Lucas should be in the starting 11 but he should be in the squad, doesnt deserve to be booed though. Wiill be interesting to watch how ange balances game time to assess vs practice playing together.

Where can one download/view a replay?

hahaha, Bitter Crusty loves revising his opinion

Edited by StiflersMom: 20/11/2013 08:11:41 AM

Mack wanted me to change it, do you find it satisfactory?

Some really rash tackles in that game which meant Jedi thrived lol. That sort tackling will punish us at the WC I.e Cahill in 2010.

Rogic is a cut above every Australian player maybe bar Kruse. He needs to be playing though.

So how about that crowd 20k.

Why all the links? Wouldn't it be easier to just link the index thread?

fuck it. We made it 7 pages without inane crowd chat

Lucas is a legend and should be respected for his services, including his present perserverance.
However, even tonight where the defence was not tested, he still looked slow and vulnerable.

I think he should be acknowledged and retired immediatly.

But I don't blame him for hanging in there, infact he should be commanded for his attidude to want to play, it's to the coach to not select him.

Rogic was brilliant and Kruse always threatening.

You're making too much sense, I have requested some of them to be added to the Index.

That was a fairly boring match to watch at the ground. Neither side played with real intensity. I thought our midfield and backs were ordinary and for the most part not really challenged. The biggest improvement was the combinations of our forward three in creating coordinated runs to start an attack.

The referee was worse than what we have in the a-league. He had no confidence in being able to control the players.

Fair point Peterhen addressed at me, not all younger improve. However I'm sure Tommy, Tommy, Robbie, Leckie will improve lots. Agreed guys like Holland, Milligan, Brosque, Vidosic may not get better. But don't tell me we can't have a great team under Ange. He will get 11 stars. Tommy x 2, Robbie & Leckie will grow if given a chance.

When our national coach gives them a go, you'll start to see how the club coaches give them a go.

When the Socceroos win under Ange, Australian Footballers will be respected overseas and guys like Amini, O'Holloran etc will get a run in their clubs too.

Then they will become better players ! Thanks to Ange being coach and not Holger.

Wrong. I'm not arguing with you, I'm telling you I wasn't having a dig. You can stop trying to prove an invalid point now.

#Walkawaywithyourtailbetweenlegsson

On the topic of the game, got home late and had to go out again afterwards, so caught from 30-45 minutes and then 60-90. From what i saw, a solid performance, but against a sub-par Costa Rica team. Neill was improved, but I'll wait to see how he goes against a better attacking team. They were pretty ordinary in attack. Jedinak was fairly good from what I saw. Rogic was wonderful when he came on, need him to get a loan in January to give him the best chance to be on that plane to Rio.

Was at the game - Jedinak is an absolute monster in the middle of the pitch. A few poor touches, but he wins so much of the ball in there. Watching Rogic glide across the pitch is amazing to watch, and Lucas had a really solid game. Davidson seemed a bit shaky, but I'm sure that's nerves rather than a lack of quality, and Franjic looked at home.

Was interesting when we had Kennedy, Cahill and Rogic on at the same time - Cahill seemed to drift off to the right side - strange.

Overall, we look infinitely more dynamic than we did under Holger, but the opposition was very weak, so it's hard to gauge how we're travelling.

Man of the Match

Leckie Man of the Match ;)

Love your input, but this is the team that beat both the USA and Mexico in their qualification group, and played players on the books of clubs in the ilk of Arsenal.

I suspect if we came up against them in a competitive match they would be a completely different proposition. To me both sides played without much intensity and didn't really get out of 1st or 2nd gear.

Edited by chillbilly: 20/11/2013 12:16:29 AM

Jedinak was a monster as usual, some nice passes and he won the corner that lead to the goal. Hopefully that will silence the haters as he has shown what he can do in a team with structure.

Franjic looked at home at that level, nice to see him adjust so well.

Rogic just looks so stylish, I can't remember another Australian player who can beat defenders with such grace.

For anyone who missed the match I found this full replay on youtube. Unfortunately it isn't in English

[youtube]3Q2p7JXxVgM[/youtube]

Some one just said that Rogic was the best aussie player since Harry kewell, well let me tell you; I remember Harry's debut against Chile in Santiago many years ago at age 17 (I think), he played on the right wing and they could not stop him, he showed all his class, but when Tomy Rogic goes on the pitch, it's a different story, this kid is a class above, the way he glazes with the ball is magic , once he finds the right club and under Ange's tutelage I'm sure this kid will become the best player in decades.

Ahaha the commentary for the kick-off :lol:

Gonna watch the whole thing.