So true. Also what have each of these troublesome clubs done on their part? Very little it appears.

FFA have no choice but to give them the incentive they've been asking for....................dock the points.

So how do you propose the club police this sort of thing? Have a neighbourhood watch in place and everyone has to check in every hour to an automated telephone system?

How the fark can anyone suggest the club has to do something about an incident like this when
a. WSW were playing in another state
b. it was in the vicinity of an HAL game between 2 other teams
c. there is no evidence the attackers are fans of ANY HAL team

The club can only police its fans at home games and (possibly) away games.
Anything that happens in the days and hours between games is not the club's problem, or more accurately, they can't do anything about it.

Possibly the most useless and irrelevant way to introduce racism into a topic on here, and that’s saying something.

I might (cheekily) have called the district of greater Western Sydney a shithole, not its people.

How you got racism out of what I posted, that’s just laughable.

Do as your username says, have a bat! You might feel better afterwards.

90% of Wanderers fans on This forum just deflect blame whenever responsibility is there to be had, including some that I call friends! Whilst I agree that something is not right about this incident, there is a culture of criminal activity amongst groups of WSW fans and sticking your head in the sand isn't the way to deal with it.

Just like the stabbing incident, there isn't yet definitive proof that the perps were associated with a particular football fan group, but the seems a reasonable chance of that being the case.

There comes a time when for the sake of our clubs and sport, we all need to start pointing fingers at our own and having them removed from our game before our game is removed from us.

I was always taught that the only people who use 'Proof' are distillers and Mathematicians

How is it deflecting if I encourage people to hold off on assigning responsibility until more is known?

It is disingenuous for you to draw comparisons with the stabbing incident. The verdict is in. SFC casuals were responsible. Anyone with a rudimentary grasp of the internet can, with little difficulty, access certain pages where the perpetrators identity is discussed openly. His face is prominent amongst certain images as well.

You have the nerve to accuse us of having our heads in the sand.

As far as I am aware Cottee's cordial was never involved in a mass murder/suicide event, whilst Kool Aid was the vehicle of choice in Jonestown massacre, I believe that is the source of the saying. I may be wrong however

Inb4 the dock.

Was responding to the SFC traitor that I quoted FFS. Bit jumpy aren't we?

As I've said in previous posts in this thread, this particular story seems a bit strange and things don't add up going from the details that we currently have. I wasn't saying that responsibility had to be taken right now, I was merely commenting on the obvious trend that is seen here every time a story of negative behaviour from Wanderers fans arises.

-PB

I'm going to ignore my better judgement and bite...



Why shouldn't wanderers fans deflect blame? Just read some of the comments here, some people here go full retard and take any excuse to bash not just the wanderers but western sydney as a whole.

I didn't understand it at the time, but when 9/11 occurred the media loved to point out how Muslim groups had not came out and condemned what happened. At the time I was annoyed they had not done so, but now... I'm a little older, a little wiser.. Why should they? They never said they supported it in the first place, thinking that a group has to come out and condemn something that had nothing to do with them personally or the majority is insulting and points to an underlying hatred and fear, you can not win this type of argument. (I'm not trying to compare incidence of 9/11 to anything, just my thought processes at the time and how I've come to a new understanding.)

The natural reaction when under attack is to defend... How anyone can not see this and understand is beyond me. You point out that its not just your fans, how nothing has been proven, how the media always beat things up... Of course people are going to do that, doesn't mean they support the bad things when they do occur.

Two great posts :lol:

Did you just compere wanderers fans beating the hell out of some kid to 9/11?

My thought exactly........

Until I read the whole thing

No an if you read the whole thing you'd have understood that... I said as much.

I compared over reaction to over reaction, expecting something that you should not expect. But thank you for proving that a sensible argument on FFT is impossible.

Same way I was able to identify a couple of AMOK and a Northgate member while I was out and about yesterday.

When you are involved. You know.

Little bastards using weapons. Kids with knives in the Sky Blue Youth, bars and bats in AMOK. This is just a sad reflection on the youth culture of today, not so much the A-league.

What still gets me is that there are people here who have never been near active support, or anywhere near the inner sanctum who think that what they know is the truth.

For crying out loud, here are some facts for you.

Habour City Service (HCS) and Sky Blue Youth (SBY) left SFCvMVC and went straight to the MV pub in sydney where they chanted "where is your horda?" who then arrived and beat the shit out of the SFC guys, one of whom pulled a knife and stabbed a vicotry fan.

HSC stole a scarf from a disabled fan, and then punched on with those trying to defend the gypo.

SBY left the ground and AMOK were there when SBY ran one couldn't quite make it. poor boy had a bruise and lost his trainers.

After the derby Northgate and AMOK couldn't find HCS or SBY and so hit on with police instead.

The lot of you Sydney shitheads are the problem.

Whats more I could go through 5 years of shit that the lot of you would have no fucking clue about cause the only time you hear about it is when News LTD of fairfax actually have someone to talk to about it. It didn't bother you when it was not reported so why let it bother you now.

If your at an a-league game and you see a biff, walk on. chances are they are both consenting parties and don't talk to the fucking media. then you can continue on living in your little world where this shit only happens when it gets reported.



Edited by blackmac79: 20/1/2014 01:09:54 PM

Edited by blackmac79: 20/1/2014 01:13:22 PM

i know what you're getting at but it annoys me that im getting painted with the same brush :(

You'll always be painted sky blue ;)

-PB

Dream on :lol:

Next RBB capo

troll on dip shit

So you put the facts up but the attack on SBY happened before the game.
You can;t even read an article properly how much of this other stuff is invention as well.