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One of the best honest English language descriptions of what is happening in Ukraine.
If you want the honest truth, here it is-
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Edited by polemides: 5/3/2014 08:47:13 AM
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Socceroofan4life
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Quote:'Putin denied that the Russian-speaking soldiers occupying key Crimean military sites were Russian special forces, saying they were pro-Russian local self-defence forces.' "There are many military uniforms. Go into any local shop and you can find one," he said. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Condemned666
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I would love to see Putin invade news.com.au and its reading demographic
Teach those A.D.D, first world problem complaining brats some manners!
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[youtube]VNi32y1i-Ls[/youtube]
By now, American Samoa must have realised that Australias 22-0 win over Tonga two days earlier was no fluke.
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paulbagzFC
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Polemides, nobody here gives a fuck. -PB
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Polemides
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American neocons begging for war, so sad and pathetic Quote:Let me make sense of what’s happening in Ukraine for you as that country descends into armed chaos, threatening to oust the legitimately elected Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich and place the country in the hands of rebel forces spearheaded by Ukrainian neo-Nazis and Chechen Islamist radicals. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland, along with Obama adviser and designated liar Susan Rice, are neo-conservatives, neocons for short. The neocons, first in the form of the Trilateral Commission and more recently as the Carlyle Group, thrive on military conflict. When the world is at war, the neocons and the defense contractors who work with them make enormous amounts of money. The neocons don’t care which side you’re on, as long as they can work with you to create a political situation that they can grow into a war from which they will profit. The Ukrainian “revolution” was fostered and encouraged by Nuland, Rice and U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt. These three were instrumental in staging a destabilization campaign. Working with Ukrainian neo-Nazis, they fostered the Ukrainian uprising that has caused the elected Ukrainian president to flee from Kiev. Arizona Sen. John McCain was also part of this duplicity. McCain went to Kiev in December last year and helped incite the mobs that would overthrow the legitimately elected president. If there were such a thing as a Nobel Anti-Peace Prize, McCain would win it hands down for his work in Egypt and Syria, topped off by what he’s done in Ukraine. The U.S.-supported insurgents have taken over Kiev and now hold the Ukrainian people hostage as the U.S. stands down. Barack Obama mouthed the emptiest of words – there will be “costs” to Russia for military action against the insurgents – while the U.S. found that its hands were tied. In the early stages of the rebellion, Ukrainian President Yanukovich met with the rebels staging the uprising, and the two parties agreed to stop the violence and make an orderly transition to a new government chosen in a new set of elections. Instead, the right-wing rebels ignored the agreement and took over Kiev by force, with their armed patrols maintaining control through violence. The situation in Ukraine has been painted as a conflict between Vladimir Putin’s Russia, the so-called bad guys, and Ukrainian rebels, the so-called good guys who seek to oust Russia from a position of influence in Ukraine and install a new government that will be responsive to the Ukrainian people. Don’t believe a word of it. The Ukrainian nationalists are fascists. Washington’s original purpose for staging a coup in Ukraine was to move Ukraine away from Russia and bring Ukraine into the European Union. In other words, the neocons and the bought-and-paid-for “moderates” in the Obama administration wanted to wrest control of Ukraine from Putin’s hands and gain economic and energy control over the country. As Dr. Stephen F. Cohen has pointed out, Western nations, with the U.S. leading the way, have been provoking Putin for decades. We’ve expanded NATO to include former Soviet states – Ukraine looks like the next target – and we’ve attacked allies of Russia, including Libya and Iraq. The U.S. – along with other Western nations – through our incursions into the politics, economics and national security of Russia and several of its allies, has effectively caused the situation that is now unfolding in Ukraine. Cohen is right. Putin is certainly not a good guy, but he is not the villain in this. The Jews have always been canaries in the coal mine of human rights in Russia, and Putin has been better to Russian Jews than any other Russian leader in the past century. With the elected government now driven out of Ukraine, the anti-Semitic U.S.-backed fascist thugs who have assumed control are vandalizing synagogues and threatening the lives of Jews in Crimea. Putin has also been forced to deploy military assets to Crimea, an important region that Russia ceded to Ukraine in the 1950s, when the USSR was reaching the height of its power and Ukraine was one of its puppet states. The majority population in Crimea is Russian, and its warm-water Black Sea ports are critical to Russian military and trade interests. Russia cannot afford to let the Crimean region fall into the hands of the insurgents who are trying to take over Ukraine. In addition to deploying military assets in Crimea, Putin has contacted his allies in at least eight other strategically located countries to assure that Russia has access to those countries’ military facilities so Putin’s forces can extend their long-range naval and strategic bomber capabilities. In other words, the U.S. interference in Ukrainian politics has resulted in Putin expanding his military influence, while at the same time Barack Obama is bent on shrinking our own military to pre-World War II levels. Once again, the incompetent, uninformed and uninvolved president of the U.S. has drawn a pink line in the sand. Obama doesn’t know whose side he’s on. He didn’t even bother to attend the meeting of his national security advisers on Friday afternoon as the Ukrainian conflict was escalating and Putin was deploying his military. The new game in Washington, D.C., is not “Where’s Waldo?” It’s “Where’s Barry?” They took the trouble to Photoshop Obama into pictures of national security meetings during the Benghazi crisis. In this case, they’re not even bothering to pretend he’s in charge. Obama hasn’t got a clue about what the conflict in the Ukraine means. Nuland and Rice, two of the four horsewomen of the apocalypse who seem to make so many critical decisions of this administration, told him to blame Putin, so that is what he did. Now the Russian and Ukrainian people are at grave risk from the Ukrainian nationalists and Chechen Islamic jihadists into whose hands the U.S. has worked to place the fate of that country, and Putin has called on his allies to assist him in expanding his military presence around the world. The greatest hypocrisy here comes from those who call for open borders with Mexico and amnesty for 30 million illegal aliens who have violated our territorial integrity. It is our own politicians and advisers – Sens. Dick Durbin, Lindsey Graham and John McCain, along with national security renegades like Zbigniew Brzezinski and Madeleine Albright – who have made our borders meaningless. Our foreign enemies are less to be feared than the American subversives who are orchestrating the takeover of Ukraine by pro-Islamist Ukrainian neo-Nazis. Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/03/obamas-ukrainian-pink-line/#Gb4pmeFj7AJgFhRx.99
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paulbagzFC
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Socceroofan4life wrote:Quote:'Putin denied that the Russian-speaking soldiers occupying key Crimean military sites were Russian special forces, saying they were pro-Russian local self-defence forces.' "There are many military uniforms. Go into any local shop and you can find one," he said. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Yes, they got all those Russian plated APC's from a store as well :lol: If that's the case, why do they have shiny new guns and the current Ukrainies have shit weaps? -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:Socceroofan4life wrote:Quote:'Putin denied that the Russian-speaking soldiers occupying key Crimean military sites were Russian special forces, saying they were pro-Russian local self-defence forces.' "There are many military uniforms. Go into any local shop and you can find one," he said. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Yes, they got all those Russian plated APC's from a store as well :lol: If that's the case, why do they have shiny new guns and the current Ukrainies have shit weaps? -PB Ukraine's military hardware is old soviet equipment, or if you're lucky enough to have some new equipment german built. So they're not Russian loyalists from the Ukraine army. All the soldiers had shiny new Russian built hardware. Apparently Russia has taken a Missile Defence Base in Sevastopol.
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So Russia's scuttled a couple of warships, (albeit one was de-commissioned and going to be sold for scrap) at the entrance of a Ukrainian Naval Base, as a means to stop the few ships of the Ukrainian fleet that managed to high-tail it out of port during the invasion from sailing back in and either rescuing their comrades, or going in Bruce Willis, "Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker" style. :lol: The funny thing about it I think they've trapped one or two of their own ships in that harbour by doing that. :lol: Edited by Heineken: 10/3/2014 02:03:05 AM
WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

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afromanGT
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Heineken wrote::lol: The funny thing about it I think they've trapped one or two of their own ships in that harbour by doing that. :lol:
Edited by Heineken: 10/3/2014 02:03:05 AM No way they're that daft.
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afromanGT wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Socceroofan4life wrote:Quote:'Putin denied that the Russian-speaking soldiers occupying key Crimean military sites were Russian special forces, saying they were pro-Russian local self-defence forces.' "There are many military uniforms. Go into any local shop and you can find one," he said. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Yes, they got all those Russian plated APC's from a store as well :lol: If that's the case, why do they have shiny new guns and the current Ukrainies have shit weaps? -PB Ukraine's military hardware is old soviet equipment, or if you're lucky enough to have some new equipment german built. So they're not Russian loyalists from the Ukraine army. All the soldiers had shiny new Russian built hardware. Apparently Russia has taken a Missile Defence Base in Sevastopol. lol what do you know cutting and pasting BBC
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ricecrackers wrote:afromanGT wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Socceroofan4life wrote:Quote:'Putin denied that the Russian-speaking soldiers occupying key Crimean military sites were Russian special forces, saying they were pro-Russian local self-defence forces.' "There are many military uniforms. Go into any local shop and you can find one," he said. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Yes, they got all those Russian plated APC's from a store as well :lol: If that's the case, why do they have shiny new guns and the current Ukrainies have shit weaps? -PB Ukraine's military hardware is old soviet equipment, or if you're lucky enough to have some new equipment german built. So they're not Russian loyalists from the Ukraine army. All the soldiers had shiny new Russian built hardware. Apparently Russia has taken a Missile Defence Base in Sevastopol. lol what do you know cutting and pasting BBC If you can tell me which article I've plagiarised from the BBC...Oh wait, you can't, because I haven't. Who do you think you are? Notorganic?
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Just leave it to Sarah fucking Palin ffs. SMH wrote:Sarah Palin: stop Putin with nukesMarch 9, 2014  Sarah Palin has offered unsolicited advice to US President Barack Obama on containing Russian aggression, saying ''the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke''. The Republican former vice-presidential candidate used a predominantly crass tone throughout her appearance at the Conservative Political Action Conference. But she hit home by attacking what she called a feckless Obama foreign policy that she said has helped embolden Russian President Vladimir Putin. Failing to show peace through strength has allowed some ''very, very, very bad dudes [to] gain ground'', said Ms Palin, who remains a darling of the far-right. Advertisement Mr Obama ''would gut our arsenal while he allows others – enemies – to enrich theirs'', she said. ''Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.'' The comments follow Russia's move into neighbouring Ukraine, action which sent tensions soaring and US-Russia relations to perhaps their lowest point since the end of the Cold War. The remark may have sounded flippant, but it was red meat to conservatives mindful of similar language used by the head of the National Rifle Association, America's largest gun lobby. In the aftermath of a December 2012 mass shooting in Connecticut, NRA executive vice-president Wayne LaPierre poured fuel on the gun control debate by saying that ''the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun''.
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paladisious wrote:Just leave it to Sarah fucking Palin ffs. SMH wrote:Sarah Palin: stop Putin with nukesMarch 9, 2014  Sarah Palin has offered unsolicited advice to US President Barack Obama on containing Russian aggression, saying ''the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke''. The Republican former vice-presidential candidate used a predominantly crass tone throughout her appearance at the Conservative Political Action Conference. But she hit home by attacking what she called a feckless Obama foreign policy that she said has helped embolden Russian President Vladimir Putin. Failing to show peace through strength has allowed some ''very, very, very bad dudes [to] gain ground'', said Ms Palin, who remains a darling of the far-right. Advertisement Mr Obama ''would gut our arsenal while he allows others – enemies – to enrich theirs'', she said. ''Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.'' The comments follow Russia's move into neighbouring Ukraine, action which sent tensions soaring and US-Russia relations to perhaps their lowest point since the end of the Cold War. The remark may have sounded flippant, but it was red meat to conservatives mindful of similar language used by the head of the National Rifle Association, America's largest gun lobby. In the aftermath of a December 2012 mass shooting in Connecticut, NRA executive vice-president Wayne LaPierre poured fuel on the gun control debate by saying that ''the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun''. Lol. Saw this on that SBS show "the feed" Marc 'that movie guy' Fennel's eye roll after they played the clip was brilliant.
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afromanGT
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Who gives this dumb bitch airtime?
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Carlito
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Sweet Jesus . Please tell me she isn't serious , she isn't that daft .... wait :lol:
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afromanGT
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Sweet Jesus . Please tell me she isn't serious , she isn't that daft .... wait :lol: It's statements like that which make you glad she'll never be anywhere near running the country.
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u4486662
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afromanGT wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Sweet Jesus . Please tell me she isn't serious , she isn't that daft .... wait :lol: It's statements like that which make you glad she'll never be anywhere near running the country. True, but she got pretty close. And that greatly concerns me.
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Carlito
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u4486662 wrote:afromanGT wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Sweet Jesus . Please tell me she isn't serious , she isn't that daft .... wait :lol: It's statements like that which make you glad she'll never be anywhere near running the country. True, but she got pretty close. And that greatly concerns me. Sadly our country is run by a person close to Palin in style ; ) also the us was run by bush remember :lol:
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afromanGT
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u4486662 wrote:afromanGT wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Sweet Jesus . Please tell me she isn't serious , she isn't that daft .... wait :lol: It's statements like that which make you glad she'll never be anywhere near running the country. True, but she got pretty close. And that greatly concerns me. She'll never even be in the same building as the big red button.
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Wow, she's managed to turn
"Russia will not attack America with nuclear weapons because of the threat of mutually assured destruction"
into
"The good guys have nukes to stop the bad guys"
:lol:
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Carlito
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433 wrote:Wow, she's managed to turn
"Russia will not attack America with nuclear weapons because of the threat of mutually assured destruction"
into
"The good guys have nukes to stop the bad guys"
:lol:
Remember this is the woman who said she can see Russia from her back yard :lol:
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:433 wrote:Wow, she's managed to turn
"Russia will not attack America with nuclear weapons because of the threat of mutually assured destruction"
into
"The good guys have nukes to stop the bad guys"
:lol:
Remember this is the woman who said she can see Russia from her back yard :lol: considering she's from Alaska, that's not such an absurd statement to make. As a metaphor stretch, it was pretty reasonable.
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Oh well, the young Sarah Palin would have had at least one good use...
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afromanGT wrote:ricecrackers wrote:afromanGT wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Socceroofan4life wrote:Quote:'Putin denied that the Russian-speaking soldiers occupying key Crimean military sites were Russian special forces, saying they were pro-Russian local self-defence forces.' "There are many military uniforms. Go into any local shop and you can find one," he said. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Yes, they got all those Russian plated APC's from a store as well :lol: If that's the case, why do they have shiny new guns and the current Ukrainies have shit weaps? -PB Ukraine's military hardware is old soviet equipment, or if you're lucky enough to have some new equipment german built. So they're not Russian loyalists from the Ukraine army. All the soldiers had shiny new Russian built hardware. Apparently Russia has taken a Missile Defence Base in Sevastopol. lol what do you know cutting and pasting BBC If you can tell me which article I've plagiarised from the BBC...Oh wait, you can't, because I haven't. Who do you think you are? Notorganic? Who do you think you are? you know sweet f%#! all about this Edited by ricecrackers: 11/3/2014 10:10:22 AM
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paulbagzFC
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Who's nailin' palin' Best movie ever. -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:Who's nailin' palin'
Best movie ever.
-PB Is that some kind of porn parody or what?
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Condemned666 wrote: Its Not high on my list of destinations I'd like to visit, bro
I actually did a pisstake at the bookshop this afternoon showing the lonely planet cover of Ukraine, "The Happiest Place on Earth" :lol:
Although it did bring us the magic of Andrei Shevchenko
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
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