Putin ready to invade Ukraine; Kiev warns of war


Putin ready to invade Ukraine; Kiev warns of war

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thupercoach wrote:
11.mvfc.11 wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
433 wrote:
Wow, she's managed to turn

"Russia will not attack America with nuclear weapons because of the threat of mutually assured destruction"

into

"The good guys have nukes to stop the bad guys"

:lol:


Remember this is the woman who said she can see Russia from her back yard :lol:
considering she's from Alaska, that's not such an absurd statement to make.


As a metaphor stretch, it was pretty reasonable.


From memory, she made that comment to show her credentials in foreign policy. As in:

Candidate 1: "I've spent 4 years as secretary of state, managing foreign relations."
Candidate 2: "I have led a dozen delegations across the globe, and negotiated peace treaties."
Sarah Palin: "I can see Russia from my backyard."
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YerNathanael wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
Who's nailin' palin'

Best movie ever.

-PB

Is that some kind of porn parody or what?


Of course rofl.

-PB

https://i.imgur.com/batge7K.jpg

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Excellent analysis by Dan Carlin on his podcast this week.
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
433 wrote:
Wow, she's managed to turn

"Russia will not attack America with nuclear weapons because of the threat of mutually assured destruction"

into

"The good guys have nukes to stop the bad guys"

:lol:


Remember this is the woman who said she can see Russia from her back yard :lol:
considering she's from Alaska, that's not such an absurd statement to make.

The Bering Straight is 50 miles across (80km). You can't see Russia from Alaska unless you're 100ft in the air. So no, she can't see Alaska from her back yard.
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Isn't Greenland closer to Alaska then Russia ??
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Isn't Greenland closer to Alaska then Russia ??

Are you dumber than she is?
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afromanGT wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
Isn't Greenland closer to Alaska then Russia ??

Are you dumber than she is?

Nope just asking as I'm bored :lol:
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11.mvfc.11 wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
11.mvfc.11 wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
433 wrote:
Wow, she's managed to turn

"Russia will not attack America with nuclear weapons because of the threat of mutually assured destruction"

into

"The good guys have nukes to stop the bad guys"

:lol:


Remember this is the woman who said she can see Russia from her back yard :lol:
considering she's from Alaska, that's not such an absurd statement to make.

The Bering Straight is 50 miles across (80km). You can't see Russia from Alaska unless you're 100ft in the air. So no, she can't see Alaska from her back yard.
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WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

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paulbagzFC wrote:
YerNathanael wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
Who's nailin' palin'

Best movie ever.

-PB

Is that some kind of porn parody or what?


Of course rofl.

-PB








Edited by paladisious: 11/3/2014 11:10:51 PM
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Good to see that Rule 34 is still in effect.
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Ron Paul: Crimea secedes. So what?

Residents of Crimea voted over the weekend on whether they would remain an autonomous region of Ukraine or join the Russian Federation. In so doing, they joined a number of countries and regions — including recently Scotland, Catalonia and Venice — that are seeking to secede from what they view as unresponsive or oppressive governments.

These latter three are proceeding without much notice, while the overwhelming Crimea vote to secede from Ukraine has incensed U.S. and European Union officials, and has led NATO closer to conflict with Russia than since the height of the Cold War.

What's the big deal? Opponents of the Crimea vote like to point to the illegality of the referendum. But self-determination is a centerpiece of international law. Article I of the United Nations Charter points out clearly that the purpose of the U.N. is to "develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples."

Why does the U.S. care which flag will be hoisted on a small piece of land thousands of miles away?

Critics point to the Russian "occupation" of Crimea as evidence that no fair vote could have taken place. Where were these people when an election held in an Iraq occupied by U.S. troops was called a "triumph of democracy"?

Perhaps the U.S. officials who supported the unconstitutional overthrow of Ukraine's government should refocus their energies on learning our own Constitution, which does not allow the U.S. government to overthrow governments overseas or send a billion dollars to bail out Ukraine and its international creditors.

Though the Obama administration has applied some minimal sanctions on selected Russian and Crimean individuals, neither the U.S. nor the EU can afford significant sanctions against Russia. Global trade provides too much economic benefit to both sides.

Indeed, international markets rallied on news that the sanctions would be thus far minimal. They understand that trade and economic engagement are the surest roads to peace and prosperity. Let's hope governments will follow their lead.

Former representative Ron Paul of Texas is host of the new RonPaulChannel.com.

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Ludolf Pauli Pozzo · Physicist at Large Henron Collider
Dr. Paul gives another accurate prognosis. A modern day Founding Father. Those who like to puff their chests go sign-up and 'save' the people of Russia...I mean Crimea from their own vote for self-determination.

Rick Blankenship · Top Commenter · West Carrollton High School
We are NOT the world police. USA should keep our noses out of the other peoples problems. What if Russia had intervened when we elected an Ass Clown (obama) for president? I wish they would have!

RV Rad · Top Commenter
This man should be President of the United States. Unfortunately, until electoral college system is abolished no real change with happen in this country. Both parties will continue maintaining their grip on power and keep driving this country to its end. And the end is nearer and nearer.

David Nelson · Top Commenter
While not a Ron Paul fan, his commentary is both accurate and realistic. There were reports that US would punish Putin by freezing the overseas assets of his rich supporters, but has been reported those individuals already have removed most if not all their assets and returned them to Russia.

Greg Mauer · Top Commenter · Works at Tab Sound Design
Exactly! Keep out of it. We don't need anymore financial crisis' brought on by the manchild President! Go golf for the rest of your term and quit raising taxes to pay for Obama phones!

Donald Wade · Top Commenter · Wayne State University
Russia gave the Crimea to the Ukraine in the 50's when the Ukraine was part of Russia. this does not surprise me that the Crimea returns to Russia. This should not cause a war.

John Moore · Works at UC Santa Barbara
I do not always agree with Ron Paul, but here he seems to have hit the nail on the head. Why didn't US newspapers report the vote? Were they embarrassed by the outcome?

Ron Erke · Top Commenter · Mansfield, Texas
Ron Paul is right, Crimea was part of Russia before the Soviet Union, Khrushchev gave it to Ukraine in the 1950's thinking that the Soviet Union would never dissolve.

Steve Gaines · Top Commenter · .NET Architect / Developer at Matrix Resources
Leave it to Ron Paul to speak wisdom based on truth and consistent application of principles of justice and fairness.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/03/17/crimea-ukraine-russia-ron-paul-editorials-debates/6544163/

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paladisious wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
YerNathanael wrote:
paulbagzFC wrote:
Who's nailin' palin'

Best movie ever.

-PB

Is that some kind of porn parody or what?


Of course rofl.

-PB








Edited by paladisious: 11/3/2014 11:10:51 PM

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Out of sheer curiosity, I watched that last night. :lol: Most Lol porno since Paris Hilton's.

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afromanGT wrote:
11.mvfc.11 wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
433 wrote:
Wow, she's managed to turn

"Russia will not attack America with nuclear weapons because of the threat of mutually assured destruction"

into

"The good guys have nukes to stop the bad guys"

:lol:


Remember this is the woman who said she can see Russia from her back yard :lol:
considering she's from Alaska, that's not such an absurd statement to make.

The Bering Straight is 50 miles across (80km). You can't see Russia from Alaska unless you're 100ft in the air. So no, she can't see Alaska from her back yard.


Is your real name Buzz Killington?
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This whole fiasco was worth it for the adorableness that is Natalia Poklonskaya, Attorney general of Crimea :lol:.
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Crimea Spring…Putin Hails Constitutional Democracy!



A TURNING EVENT in world affairs took place in St George’s Hall in Moscow.

Ignoring Kerry’s and Merkel’s sanctions, Vladimir Putin signed a treaty today making Crimea part of Russia once again.

Basking amidst countless standing ovations from both chambers of the Russian Federation Council, Putin told the world that “relations” with the brotherly Ukrainian people have “always been and will always remain” of paramount importance to Russia.

Affirming that the referendum in the Crimea took place in full compliance with democratic procedures, Putin noted that memory and custom bound Russia and Crimea together.

“There is ancient Chersonesos there, where Holy Prince Vladimir was baptized,” said Putin. “His spiritual struggle - an appeal to Orthodoxy - predestined common cultural values and a civilizational framework that will unite the peoples of Russia, Ukraine and Belarus.”

Landing a blow on the head of the Zionist-ruled West’s efforts to destroy Orthodox Christianity in Ukraine, Putin noted that “repeated attempts” to deprive the Russians of their historical memory and their mother tongue made them an object of forced assimilation.

And letting the head of the Jew-infested US State Department, John Kerry, and his Jew-director of regime change in Kiev, Victoria Nuland (born Nudelman), know in no uncertain terms, that the “primary executors of the coup” were Russophobes, ultra-nationalists, and radicals who are now determining the course of Ukraine, Putin landed the fatal blow.

“There is no legitimate executive power in Ukraine,” Putin reminded Russia’s civil officials and representatives. “There is no one to conduct a conversation with.”

“To see ministers of the current Ukrainian government, one requires permission from Maidan militants. This is no joke, this is the reality of life today,” concluded Putin. View Entire Story Here & Here.

In contrast to Putin’s celebration of constitutional democracy, Jew-ruled heads of America and the EU (Obama and Merkel) reviled the democratic moment in Crimea.

If America and the EU claim to be champions of democracy, why won’t they affirm the Crimean people’s right of self-determination via the democratic referendum that just took place in which the overwhelming majority voted to join Russia?

It's because the Zionist, who dictate foreign policy in America and Europe, fear Vladimir Putin like few others in modern history.

He’s righteous, he’s smart, and to Jewry’s enraged accursed temper, he’s a loyal member of the Orthodox Church, of which, Jews hate with a demonic passion. (Jews don’t just hate Russian Orthodoxy but all of the Orthodox Church starting with Jesus Christ.)

Just mention the “Russian Orthodox Church” to a Jew and phantoms of pogroms and processionals of crosses appear before his jaundiced eye.

Why is it then that wherever you look in the Jew-owned press, pictures of Putin with LYING headlines and texts are blazoned before the eyes of the goyim masses?

Does Putin care? No. National interests take precedence over what pleases democracy-hating, Christ-slaying Zionists.

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JeanMarch 18, 2014 @ 2:33 pm
God bless President Vladimir Putin and I pray for him and Russia as the devil goes round as a lion.
The depraved Western societies led by the mother of whores the USA are on their final trip to hell.
This must be a grave warning to Christians that soon our Lord Jesus Christ can come back.
In the meantime we are praying for the Brothers who oppose the demons and followers.

TimWMarch 18, 2014 @ 2:37 pm
God Speed Vladimir Putin.
“Except the Lord keep the gate, the watchman waketh in vain” is the motto of my home city, Edinburgh, and it applies to Orthodox Russia, too.
May the Lord keep them safe from the plague which has infested the entire world, International Jewry, upon whom may His vengeance fall in full measure, and speedily.

Irene BonneyMarch 18, 2014 @ 3:10 pm
One day the true Church of Christ will proclaim ‘Hallelujah, for the Lord God Omnipotent reigns.’
This Australian, far-flung Subject of Queen Elizabeth, whose ancestor was the last Czarina of Russia, commends Vladimir Putin, Russia and the Russian Orthodox Church for their stand against our common enemy, although my fellows are in blissful ignorance of such a one.

RichardMarch 18, 2014 @ 4:00 pm
I find it truly remarkable that Putin would make reference to the baptism of one of his earliest predecessors whom he qualifies as being “holy.”
Certainly, no modern political “leader” in the West would ever make such statements.

emMarch 18, 2014 @ 4:17 pm
It is shameful and astonishing that US and European lickspittle politicians condemned the democratic referendum in Crimea. Unbelievable.
I identify more with Russia than vile, vermin-controlled, rotten USA. Russia’s government serves it’s people. It obeys international law and decency, whereas the USA and its occupied puppet states in Europe are murderously unethical, with theft, destruction, and enslavement as their main goals.

KathJulianeMarch 18, 2014 @ 4:19 pm
Fantastic article on a major historical event, which reads just beautifully.
Very smooth, and more than that, it subtly underscores the ongoing spiritual warfare between Holy Christian Orthodoxy and the Jews ever since Christ walked this earth.Today, truly the Gates of Hell did not prevail. Orthodoxy is clearly on the offensive, and Putin has stormed those gates serving as Heaven’s spiritual battering ram. Without firing a shot, Putin has ushered the cradle of Russian Christianity — Crimea and Sebastopol — home to Mother Russia. Today is a great day.

The Elder of Zyklon-BMarch 18, 2014 @ 5:59 pm
It is indeed an age-old spiritual war as KJ mentioned above.
A long awaited spiritual revival will emerge from the East and definitely NOT from the decadent West/Jewmerica.
The London, Israhell, and US axis of depravity have drunk from the cup of Talmudic debauchery to the point of lethal intoxication.

JustinMarch 18, 2014 @ 8:01 pm
God is guiding Putin, on his holy quest for Orthodoxy in Christ.
I wish him well as his brother in Christ and ask Saint Vladimir’s intercession for Putin’s rule to prosper, even as a monarchist (who would love to see the Romanovs return) I ask this prayer.

Yankee GoyMarch 18, 2014 @ 8:27 pm
Putin needs to communicate with conservative Christians in the USA.
“I am not a communist, communism is Talmudism and there are no Jews in my government — this is no longer the Jew-SSR.




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RT: Decries fascist influence in Ukraine. Invites actual fascist into studio, and designates him a 'Mid-East expert'

Edited by humbert: 23/3/2014 03:00:18 PM
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Not looking good in eastern ukraine.
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I look forward to the day that Putin has to defend ethnic Russians in a country like Italy :lol:

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Geez the Obama malaise is worse than the Carter malaise...

Putin is just doing what he can get away with.
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thupercoach wrote:
Geez the Obama malaise is worse than the Carter malaise...

Putin is just doing what he can get away with.

I distinctly remember two large towers in New York that were there during Clinton's administration. Did something happen to them under Bush? Which administration got the guy responsible? :-k
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Russia warns of civil war if Ukraine uses force to quell eastern revolts

(CNN) -- Russia's Foreign Ministry warned Kiev on Tuesday that any use of force in Ukraine's eastern region could lead to civil war, as Ukraine's government seeks to regain control after pro-Moscow uprisings in three cities.

Pro-Moscow protesters seized government buildings, raised Russian flags and declared new governments in Donetsk, Luhansk and Kharkiv on Sunday.

Russia's Foreign Ministry said that reports that pro-Russian protesters, including those occupying a regional administration building in the city of Donetsk, are facing a crackdown by Ukrainian authorities are of particular concern.

"We are calling for the immediate cessation of any military preparations, which could lead to civil war," it said in a statement on its official website.

The ministry alleged that what it called "American experts from the private military organization Greystone," disguised as soldiers, as well as militants from the Ukrainian far-right group Right Sector, had joined Ukrainian forces preparing for the crackdown in the country's east.

Late Monday, Ukrainian special forces cleared armed protesters from the headquarters of Ukrainian security services in Donetsk, acting President Oleksandr Turchynov's office announced Monday night.

But Ukraine's interim Deputy Prime Minister Vitaly Yarema was quoted by Russian state-run news agency ITAR-Tass as saying Tuesday that the authorities are not going to storm the city's regional administration building.

Yarema said the decision was made after talks with representatives of the protesters in the building.

A CNN team on the ground said pro-Russian protesters appear still to be in control of the building and that there is no sign of special forces nearby.

Donetsk is the hometown of ousted Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, whose pro-Russian government was toppled in a popular revolt in February.

'Anti-terrorist operation'

Meanwhile, acting Ukrainian Interior Minister Arsen Avakov said an anti-terrorist operation is under way in Kharkiv, where the center of the city is blocked off as well as the metro stations.

In a post on his official Facebook page, he urged people to remain calm and said everything would reopen once the operation is over.

Avakov said no guns have been fired in the operation and that some 70 people have been arrested so far.

On Monday, Turchynov blamed "separatist groups coordinated by Russian special services" for the revolts, which he said echoed events leading to the Russian annexation of Crimea three weeks ago.

"Enemies of Ukraine are trying to play out the Crimean scenario, but we will not let this happen," Turchynov said in a televised message.

Russia urges talks

Russia, which has tens of thousands of troops near the Ukrainian border, said it was "watching closely" and told Ukraine to stop blaming it for Ukrainian problems.

President Vladimir Putin's government pushed Ukraine to set up a federal system in which regions with ethnic Russian majorities would have more autonomy, and its foreign ministry urged Ukraine to enter into talks over the issue.

"Ukrainian people want to get a clear answer from Kiev to all their questions. It's time to listen to these legal claims," a Foreign Ministry statement read. The Ukrainian government was acting "irresponsibly," it said.

But in Washington, U.S. officials urged Putin's government to disavow the protests and warned that further Russian intervention in Ukraine would bring stiffer economic sanctions than those already imposed on targeted individuals over the Crimean annexation.

Moscow dispatched thousands of troops to Crimea in support of a pro-Russian movement that seized power in the semi-autonomous region shortly after Yanukovych fled to Russia. The Black Sea peninsula was then subsumed into Russia following a referendum denounced as illegal by Kiev and the West

Russia has called Yanukovych's removal a coup and says the interim government in Kiev is illegitimate. It has said it doesn't intend to invade eastern Ukraine but reserves the right to protect ethnic Russians there.


http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/08/world/europe/ukraine-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
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paladisious wrote:
thupercoach wrote:
Geez the Obama malaise is worse than the Carter malaise...

Putin is just doing what he can get away with.

I distinctly remember two large towers in New York that were there during Clinton's administration. Did something happen to them under Bush? Which administration got the guy responsible? :-k
The guy who dramatically reduced USA's intelligence capabilities. He was in charge for 8 years right before Bush. Bush had only been Pres for six months when 9/11 happened.
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Germany need to mobilize their armies and force Russia to back down.
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Bush had only been Pres for six months when 9/11 happened.

The US President is sworn in on January 20th. That's more than six months.
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no idea :roll:
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ricecrackers wrote:
no idea :roll:

Quality contribution.
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afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
no idea :roll:

Quality contribution.


"Germany need to mobilise their armies"

what have you been smoking :oops:
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ricecrackers wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
no idea :roll:

Quality contribution.


"Germany need to mobilise their armies"

what have you been smoking :oops:

With the majority of Europe currently relying on Germany for economic stability, they basically determine the stance and course of action for the entire continent. On top of that they have one of Europe's elite armed forces, if they mobilize in the Ukraine to keep the peace, Russia won't risk full scale military conflict against what will in reality become the majority of Europe.

Aside from principle and a sense of loyalty to expats, Russia has very little to gain from full scale conflict in Ukraine - they're an import economy which owes Gazprom $2.2bn. About all Russia has to benefit from annexing Ukraine is their metal industry.
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afromanGT wrote:
Aside from principle and a sense of loyalty to expats, Russia has very little to gain from full scale conflict in Ukraine - they're an import economy which owes Gazprom $2.2bn. About all Russia has to benefit from annexing Ukraine is their metal industry.

Crimea was important for its port and gas line. Beyond that I don't imagine Russia much care either way what happens to the rest of Ukraine.
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Putin has taken Russia back to its expansionist self of the mid-late 1800s.
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