Russia already has a port at Rostov. However, 66% of Russia's natural gas exported to the EU passes through Crimea, and if they were to capture Donetsk it would increase Russia's Iron and Steel production by nearly 50%.

A lot of similarities to this by Russia with what they did with Georgia & South Ossetia. Vladamir Putin trying to flex his muscles.

Oh yeah.

you really dont have a clue what you're talking about.

do you remember the last time Germany engaged Russia in military conflict? how did that turn out?

do you realise who it was that encouraged the regime change in Ukraine? ie who caused it

do you understand the hypocrisy of Kerry's position regarding peaceful protesters in Eastern Ukraine when he supported violent protesters in Kiev and Lviv?

do you think Russia is the aggressor here when they were previously satisfied with the arrangement with Ukraine which has since entered an agreement with NATO under US pressure?

do you realise that ethnic Russians are now being targeted by fascist thugs?

You do realise that was in the middle of winter in a heavily fortified Moscow where Russia had superior troop numbers?

Russian troops on non-russian soil. Yes, that much is bleedingly fucking obvious.

You do realise that those conflicts go both ways and Ukranian loyalists have been victims of violence as well?

I didnt realise Russia had invaded Ukraine. care to provide some evidence?

Russian troops were in Sevastopol before the 'referendum'.

You indict yourself by your own stupidity. One need not say more.

Edited by humbert: 10/4/2014 11:44:23 PM

they have a naval base there as well as long standing contract that they could station up to 25,000 troops in Crimea, of which they did not transgress

now about that evidence, got any?

another ignorant without a clue ^

25,000 troops in the naval base. Not occupying the government buildings or patrolling the Crimean border.

It's funny the way you're demanding 'evidence' when you point blank refuse to ever provide any evidence to back up your claims.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-03/armed-soldier-outside-crimean-government-building/5294932
Article depicts Russian soldier outside Crimean government building on March 3rd 2014. Referendum was held March 16th 2014.

firstly, that's a photograph. on its own it proves nothing. you dont know where it is and you dont know who that soldier is.

regardless, your claim is completely wrong. the provision allows for up to 25,000 troops in Crimea. Anywhere in Crimea. even the CIA agrees with this.

you have no idea, you're really quite stupid and again I expect you will lie again to try to save face.

My mistake. Allow me to take you in my time machine to transport us all back to March 3rd on the steps of the Sevastopol parliament.

Armed soliders storm Parliament on Feb 27th and you refuse to accept that these were Russian troops acting illegally.

And I'm the idiot. It's amazing how you're always right and everyone else is always wrong. How do you get your head so far up your own ass?

US and EU deem Russian occupation illegal

Yup.


Edited by afromanGT: 11/4/2014 12:19:57 AM

you're a glutton for masochism. why do you do this to yourself continually i'll never know...

there were no threats of force. the troops were moved in place to protect Russian bases.
it was completely legal and your article proves nothing, its simply propaganda

RT
http://rt.com/news/russian-troops-crimea-ukraine-816/

LA times
http://articles.latimes.com/2014/mar/03/world/la-fg-wn-us-intelligence-russia-ukraine-20140303

you mentioned Sevastopol, you do realise that the entire port of Sevastopol was already leased by Russia from the Ukraine?
http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/.premium-1.576212

you do realise that resultant from the violent revolution in Kiev that ousted a democratically elected government a law was hastily enacted that made Ukrainian the sole state language of Ukraine, despite the fact the majority of Crimea were Russian speaking? you knew that didnt you?

Putin just wants to bring back to Soviet Union and resume the Cold War with America. The guy hates America with a passion that rivals the Taliban's hatred for America. That was basically why shit went down with Georgia, to stop them from joining the EU and becoming "Americanized". The whole 'South Ossetia' situation was merely a convenience excuse, and Russia's timing was impeccable. Given they launched the invasion on the Beijing Olympics opening ceremony, when the whole world's eyes was on China, and not Russia. Sure, there had been a little bit of tension in the weeks and months leading up to it, and there's history between the two over the region, but nobody was really concerned. It was also ultra convenient that the majority of Georgia's best troops were over in Iraq fighting alongside the Americans.

Massive similarities in regards to that with Ukraine. Recently, they've been making noises that they want to align themselves with the west, become a member of the EU, become bum chums with America. It's ultra-convenient that the Russian's have a naval base in Crimea, and that the majority of Crimean's are "ethnic Russian". Russia doesn't give a fuck about Crimea, in my opinion. They couldn't care if the majority of the civilians are "ethnic Russian", or hail from downtown Wellington.

It's Vladamir Putin swinging his dick around, letting America, the West and Europe know that he's still there, and that he's not going to cop American imposing themselves on the states that surround the glorious Russian Federation. His warning recently that armed intervention into the riots in Eastern Ukraine would lead to civil war, would make his Christmases come early. He'll do exactly what he did in 2008, and in Crimea, and just move the troops in, under the guise of "protecting Russians, and Russian interests". The "world" is just more aware of it now than they were in 2008.

evidence?