If you believe that human induced climate change is a global scam, then by definition you do believe in a conspiracy theory. Because thats what it is, a theory of a conspiracy.

I'm not saying that believing in conspiracies is bad and I'm not saying you're wrong, but it is still a conspiracy theory.

"It's important to keep an open mind - but not so open your brain falls out."

[Quote attributed variously.]

what'd i do? he insulted me first (as usual), he deserves my response

Santos has a hell of a lot more than 200 wells in Qld. 2000 would not even be close. Origin, QG, Enerflex, Arrow have shitloads as well.

These wells are very strictly monitored. There are literally hundreds upon hundreds of pieces of legislation, laws, compliance systems, monitoring regimes, reporting obligations, automated well-head systems looking after all of this. Go to Origin or Santos's websites where they will only be too happy to tell you how they are bending over backwards to comply with the myriad of compliance requirements.

Perhaps some gas would leak out when you cap a well but you are talking about the minutest amount compared to what is left in the ground for extraction.

Here's just one document outlining mandatory requirements for wells. http://mines.industry.qld.gov.au/assets/petroleum-pdf/csg_code_of_practice.pdf

Here's one for leaks, detection and reporting. http://mines.industry.qld.gov.au/assets/petroleum-pdf/code_practice_well_leak_class.pdf

Here's all the legislation, standards and codes for onshore gas. http://www.gasfieldscommissionqld.org.au/resources/gasfields/standards-and-codes.pdf

There's hundreds of others.

So yeah, you're pretty right. They're all cowboys out there doing whatever they want without any oversight.




Edited by munrubenmuz: 7/4/2014 10:57:50 AM

"conspiracy theorist" is a pejorative term used to describe people who believe that grey aliens walk among us, the illuminati control everything and several other far fetched fantasies.

to slap that label upon someone because they are not being duped by the unscientific climate change alarmist scam is a deliberate attempt to marginalise critically thinking skeptics as believers in all those other paranoid delusions.

you're as bad as each other for continuing on the name calling and trying to prove you're smarter than one another.

You should know by now that Afro will never concede defeat, even when he's wrong :lol:

as if they're going to say on their website that they're not complying :roll:

:lol: my bad forgot a zero! I flew to Charleville and saw a lot more than 200 on that flight path alone. We're doing a few ponds for Arrow out near Dalby (3hrs west of Brisbane) at the moment for some wells. I've also seen them doing exploration drilling out by Miles in the Surat basin as well. Literally hundreds of vehicles out in the middle of nowhere.

:lol: Having seen a few pilot holes for wells drilled before i'd be curious to see how 'strict' the government thinks they're being. They love to talk themselves up but whether they actually comply could be a different story.

When they do the automatic capping of wells, i'm curious as to where the 'captured gas' actually goes. Wouldn't exploration rigs have some kind of receiver for this gas which would be a real hazard?

I realise that, however there are others here that buy into his spin and lies because they dont know any better
for their education its important he is exposed

Do yourself a favour and posts references/links.

A lot of what you're saying is correct but you're dealing with Afro :lol:

the point still stands... leaked gas is not taxed as there is no accurate way to do it

if you people were serious about reducing greenhouse gases, you wouldnt mine natural gas in the first place or at the very least you would start to reduce it, rather than currently expand it

furthermore the trading scheme will achieve nothing on this front

if you want to reduce greenhouse gases you dont cap and trade... you cap

The point is that there are hundreds of compliance requirements. The fact that they are on their websites is just to illustrate that they exist. I know you don't like to deal in facts but you know, it's kinda my thing.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/santos-coal-seam-gas-project-contaminates-aquifer-20140307-34csb.html (Pathetic fine but anyway.)

http://www.couriermail.com.au/ipad/arrow-hit-with-40000-fine-for-breach/story-fn6ck2gb-1226078776279

http://www.miningaustralia.com.au/news/arrow-energy-fined-40-000-

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2011/5/25/smart-energy/arrow-energy-fined-qld-gas-leak

http://www.smh.com.au/business/coal-seam-gas-fine-taints-clean-claim-20120509-1yd31.html

I know, I know, this is only what they're telling us, how many incidents are going unreported blah blah, proves nothing etc...

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Can you also help out the poor unwashed with some proper grammar and punctuation please. Us plebs need all the helps we can gitz bekuz we's a bit dumbish.

here you go kids, latest piece of well funded alarmist propaganda to sink your teeth into

quality stuff

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No. I didn't. You (As always) started with the insults first and then blame me.

Edited by afromanGT: 12/4/2014 06:52:21 PM

afroliar lying again i see :^o :^o :^o :^o :^o

I love a good graph

http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/weekly.html

There's unequivocal evidence that you instigated name calling, but I'm lying. Right.

Shit troll is shit.

Keep lying. You made it personal first by insulting me and you continually introduce obscenity into every discussion. I've returned serve with somewhat more class and now you're crying about it.
The simple fact here is that you're continually owned on all topics as you don't have a clue about anything. It makes you angry because you value your life on being self appointed 442 expert on all things when in fact you barely have any education or life experience at all. You're just an internet forum blow hard. 77000+ posts is a testimony to that.

You're right, the first insult was earlier. But it was still you. The only thing you know about class is being stuck in 4th grade.

keep searching liar
you'll find you were the first

So as usual you've got no proof but I'm the liar.

If you can't take it don't dish it out.

re-posting and editing quotes isn't proof of anything afroliar

I didn't edit anything.

A frog will stay in gradually warming water until it is literally cooked because the temp increase is gradual and 'hot' is continually redefined.

We are the frog.
The gradually warming water is the gradually warming water (et al).

The question is what are YOU doing about it?

Bill Nye? seriously?

:oops:

Them's fighting words.

At least he's more relevant than Bill Nighy...

Fact

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