proof?

there is none.

end thread.

thing is it's actually higher than 97%. Of all the peer reviewed studies since 2012 something like 10833 of 10835 accept climate change.

To really make the debate more accurate, have 9998 scientists against 2. John Oliver would need a bigger studio first

This would be a pretty sweet solution though
http://www.latinpost.com/articles/12648/20140515/solar-panel-roads-electrical-engineer-introduces-new-powered-roadways.htm

scientific papers arent proof of anything
proof is proof and none of them provide it

you can come to any conclusion you want if the money is right

Edited by tbitm: 18/5/2014 07:54:11 PM

excellent post =d>

:lol: what else other then science could someone possibly use in their attempt to deny climate change? It's as close to a fact as your going to get.

And it's not like it's one paper saying it exists, it's thousands that come to the same conclusion.

and yet they do it without evidence
why do you think so much money is spent trying to convince us with paper after paper?

there are a some facts that cannot be denied
1. there is no significant warming taking place
2. there is no evidence linking human activity to warming.
3. there is no evidence linking human activity to climate change
4. when warming didnt happen you people changed the threat from global warming to climate change
5. there is no evidence that any climate change that might be occurring is any more dangerous than before
6. all your computer models are wrong. not slightly wrong, very wrong

on top of all this there are billions of dollars being spent on climate alarmist propaganda which is based on nothing and if you had any shred of scientific analysis ability in your brain you'd be able to deconstruct it and see it for the fraud that it is

nice pic
whats that supposed to prove?

I'm not a scientist but I can use common sense. The number of trees and forest covering the planet is at an all time low. The number of cars that emit toxic gases is at an all time high. The use of fossil fuels has never been higher. That to me sounds like it could be doing some damage.

I love a good conspiracy theory but this one I don't buy into because fighting against facts is just idiotic.

'common sense' ie dumb logic is what is being exploited in the ignorant masses
they'll dispense some dumb logic that sounds plausible to a layman and the laymen will believe it

its incredibly easy to do. one simply needs to point out two correlating instances and tell the layman they are related.

climate change alarmism is a gravy train financial bonanza for those who stand to benefit from the majority

So who was the creator of this propaganda machine?

Al Gore and Maurice Strong independently but both influenced by bad science from Roger Revelle who later backpedaled on his own theories

is this argument

climate change vs climate change bough about my mans influence

because quite clearly there has always been climate change from the year dot...

brought about by man's influence of course. that's what we're being asked to pay for and feel guilty about
the only thing the masses should feel guilty about is gross ignorance that they're buying into this.

wouldnt be the first time profiteers profit on the back of ignorance by their victims

i've noticed its mainly the younger people who are duped because they havent experienced first hand enough variability in annual weather conditions. they see one hot summer and think its the end of the world.

Arguing with climate change doomsayers is like arguing with religious fundamentalist nutters.

Pointless.

I only go on this thread to laugh at ricecrackers' stupidity.

Most climate change deniers tend to be religious nutters.

I'm just interested in how much he's thought this thing through. He's probably spent a little too much time thinking about it actually.

That's a gross generalisation. What I would say though is that "Climate Change" is being treated as a quasi-religion by the doomsayers. It's the believers that carry on like religious nutters.

The rest of us just want to get on with stuff.

bless the innocent little hearts of these indoctrinated children
time will prove me correct

absolutely agree with that

Comparing people that accept the science to religious people that don't believe in science?

Quality analogy.

I'd say ricecrackers is more akin to religious fundamentalists since it doesn't matter what happens to the earth, rising oceans, extreme drought, more extreme weather events, the fall back argument is always going to be "the climate is always changing" so it will never ever get through to him. And this will be the case when Manhattan is gone and we've evolved into mermaids.

Same could be said when evidence that the earth is older than 6000 years old to a fundamentalist "Gods testing you" will counter any evidence to their already held beliefs.

For a debate that should be based on science it is clear that, generally speaking, both sides take up their position based on their political leanings.

Vote Liberal and you are more likely to think human induced climate change is a crock.

Vote Labour or Greens and you are more likely to think human induced climate change is real.

Weird. (You don't get the same split say with anti-vaxxers for example. And interestingly the UK conservative government is at polar opposites with their Australian Liberal counterparts. "Lord" Monkton excepted.)

It'd be interesting to look at how this philosophical divide evolved.



Edited by munrubenmuz: 19/5/2014 02:15:03 PM

the stupidity of the above post is endless i dont know where to begin :lol:
garden variety indoctrinated kid we have here. too many Al Gore docos

i'm still waiting for some scientific proof
instead all i've seen are numerous incidences of corruption and ludicrously flawed propaganda, i dont even want to call it science coming from the well funded alarmist cabal

Edited by ricecrackers: 19/5/2014 02:22:12 PM

Despite the amount of latest research showing that the Earth hasn't warmed since 1989 and that the modelling done by the initial "climate scientists" was way off the mark, the doomsayers are clinging to their ideology like a drunken man to his bottle. Or a religious nutter to his bible.

Sorry, you guys are the fundamentalists in this debate. The rest of us just want to be left alone by you believers and proselytisers.

Amen.

i assume i'm one of the witches of Salem in this context