Global warming and climate change are synonimous. And in your quote from the article it mentions exactly that. That's my point.

Sure, I'll say yes. I don't see where this is going though.

Edited by tbitm: 2/6/2014 01:54:33 AM

Edited by tbitm: 2/6/2014 01:55:16 AM

ok so you agree depression is a leading cause of suicide

then would you agree that if a large number of impressionable young people were constantly told the world was going to end, some of them might get depressed about that? yes or no?

Who's telling them that?

I know you'd like to think were all a bunch of chicken littles but I don't think too many people are really saying that. And even if there are some doomsayers it's always like 50 years from now so people today shouldn't be worried.

There's also not a bunch of young people that care about this topic as much as I do. I think you'd find this is very low on the agenda of most young people.

But I'll keep playing the game, yes.

Ricecrackers, how many times a week do you see a phycologist ? And were you bullyed a lot at school ?





Edited by roar #1 : 2/6/2014 01:34:53 AM

You're taking two undeniable points and really stretching it out. It's not a particularly tricky skill, you can do that with almost anything.

Do you believe that depression is a main cause of suicide?
Yes
Do you believe crushing someone's dreams could make them depressed?
Yes.
Well kids dream to become Spider-Man when they grow up and when they are told they can't they become depressed and kill themselves. Case closed your honour!

Nonetheless, you still missed the point of your article and I don't want to try to explain it again.

Edited by tbitm: 2/6/2014 02:49:38 AM

Do you have tourette's you illiterate?

ok so you agree depression is a leading cause of suicide
and you agree that some people will get depressed by the news

so some people get depressed and some depressed people kill themselves. cant believe i had to go through this effort to prove a basic thesis.

this is not about most people, this is about some people and some of a lot of people can still be a lot of people
its stands to reason this fear-mongering will increase rates of suicide just as it did with "peak oil"

Do you have tourette's you illiterate?

I'd think that a know-it-all cad such as yourself would know that this isn't how Tourette's manifests itself.

With that logic you could say that climate change causes obesity.

Do some people eat because they are depressed? Yes
Are some people depressed because of climate change? no ( but by your fucked up logic they are)

So climate change causes obesity.

And I have articles backing up my claim but I don't need to show you because I know they exist.

now you're creating a straw man
clear sign of defeat

[size=8]Scientists Admit Polar Bear Numbers Were Made Up To ‘Satisfy Public Demand’[/size]
3:02 PM 05/30/2014

Michael Bastasch

This may come as a shocker to some, but scientists are not always right — especially when under intense public pressure for answers.

Researchers with the IUCN Polar Bear Specialist Group (PBSG) recently admitted to experienced zoologist and polar bear specialist Susan Crockford that the estimate given for the total number of polar bars in the Arctic was “simply a qualified guess given to satisfy public demand.”

Crockford has been critical of official polar bear population estimates because they fail to include five large subpopulations of polar bears. Due to the uncertainty of the populations in these areas, PBSG did not include them in their official estimate — but the polar bear group did include other subpopulation estimates.

PBSG has for years said that global polar bear populations were between 20,000 and 25,000, but these estimates are likely much lower than how many polar bears are actually living in the world.

“Based on previous PBSG estimates and other research reports, it appears there are probably at least another 6,000 or so bears living in these regions and perhaps as many as 9,000 (or more) that are not included in any PBSG ‘global population estimate,’” Crockford wrote on her blog.

“These are guesses, to be sure, but they at least give a potential size,” Crockford added.

PBSG disclosed this information to Crockford ahead of the release of their Circumpolar Polar Bear Action Plan in which they intend to put a footnote explaining why their global population estimate is flawed.

“As part of past status reports, the PBSG has traditionally estimated a range for the total number of polar bears in the circumpolar Arctic,” PBSG says in its proposed footnote. “Since 2005, this range has been 20-25,000. It is important to realize that this range never has been an estimate of total abundance in a scientific sense, but simply a qualified guess given to satisfy public demand.”

“It is also important to note that even though we have scientifically valid estimates for a majority of the subpopulations, some are dated,” PBSG continues. “Furthermore, there are no abundance estimates for the Arctic Basin, East Greenland, and the Russian subpopulations.”

“Consequently, there is either no, or only rudimentary, knowledge to support guesses about the possible abundance of polar bears in approximately half the areas they occupy,” says PBSG. “Thus, the range given for total global population should be viewed with great caution as it cannot be used to assess population trend over the long term.”

PBSG’s admission also comes after academics and government regulators have touted their polar bear population estimates to show that polar bear numbers have grown since the 1960s. PBSG estimates have also been used to show that polar bear populations have stabilized over the last 30 years.

Polar bear populations became the centerpiece of the effort to fight global warming due to claims that melting polar ice caps would cause the bears to become endangered in the near future. Years ago, some scientists predicted the Arctic would be virtually ice free by now.

Polar bears became the first species listed under the Endangered Species Act because they could potentially be harmed by global warming. But some recent studies have found that some polar bear subpopulations have actually flourished in recent years.

“So, the global estimates were… ‘simply a qualified guess given to satisfy public demand’ and according to this statement, were never meant to be considered scientific estimates, despite what they were called, the scientific group that issued them, and how they were used,” Crockford said.

“All this glosses over what I think is a critical point: none of these ‘global population estimates’ (from 2001 onward) came anywhere close to being estimates of the actual world population size of polar bears (regardless of how scientifically inaccurate they might have been) — rather, they were estimates of only the subpopulations that Arctic biologists have tried to count,” she added.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/30/scientists-admit-polar-bear-numbers-were-made-up-to-satisfy-public-demand/#ixzz33SGuiJCw

leave it to afrodope to miss the point again

These are the words of [size=8]economist [/size]and [size=8]Global Warming Policy Foundation[/size] advisor Richard Tol

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/30/scientists-admit-polar-bear-numbers-were-made-up-to-satisfy-public-demand/#ixzz33SGuiJCw

The Daily Caller is a politically conservative[1][2] news and opinion website based in Washington, D.C., United States. Founded by Tucker Carlson, a libertarian conservative[3][4] political pundit, and Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney

The Daily Caller is a politically conservative[1][2] news and opinion website based in Washington, D.C., United States. Founded by Tucker Carlson, a libertarian conservative[3][4] political pundit, and Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney

LOL at you

oh and one more thing

[size=3]Richard Tol[/size]

LOL at him


Edited by ricecrackers: 6/6/2014 06:27:53 PM

there's difference between the messenger and the source idiot

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Sounds bout right.

-PB

there's difference between the messenger and the source idiot