Climate change: Fact or Fiction?


Climate change: Fact or Fiction?

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Bullion wrote:
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Climate change is real

Signed by:
Academia Brasiliera de Ciências, Brazil
Royal Society of Canada, Canada
Chinese Academy of Sciences, China
Academié des Sciences, France
Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina, Germany
Indian National Science Academy, India
Accademia dei Lincei, Italy
Science Council of Japan, Japan
Russian Academy of Sciences, Russia
Royal Society, UK
National Academy of Sciences, USA


climate change is real... no shit
sun is hot
water is wet

what a stupid comment...meanwhile you ignore the list of thousands of scientists on the skeptical side of AGW

why, because this is like supporting a football team to you. you just want to win... however you're supporting the side that is going to make you lose

Let me flesh that out:
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Climate change is real

There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes to many physical and biological systems. It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities


too bad that IPCC statement was in 2005 and since then we've had no warming
how does that fit with human activity increasing CO2?

answer, it doesnt

and by the way, the term "likely" does not indicate proof of anything

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ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:

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Climate change is real

Signed by:
Academia Brasiliera de Ciências, Brazil
Royal Society of Canada, Canada
Chinese Academy of Sciences, China
Academié des Sciences, France
Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina, Germany
Indian National Science Academy, India
Accademia dei Lincei, Italy
Science Council of Japan, Japan
Russian Academy of Sciences, Russia
Royal Society, UK
National Academy of Sciences, USA


climate change is real... no shit
sun is hot
water is wet

what a stupid comment...meanwhile you ignore the list of thousands of scientists on the skeptical side of AGW

why, because this is like supporting a football team to you. you just want to win... however you're supporting the side that is going to make you lose

Let me flesh that out:
Quote:
Climate change is real

There will always be uncertainty in understanding a system as complex as the world’s climate. However there is now strong evidence that significant global warming is occurring. The evidence comes from direct measurements of rising surface air temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures and from phenomena such as increases in average global sea levels, retreating glaciers, and changes to many physical and biological systems. It is likely that most of the warming in recent decades can be attributed to human activities


too bad that IPCC statement was in 2005 and since then we've had no warming
how does that fit with human activity increasing CO2?

answer, it doesnt

and by the way, the term "likely" does not indicate proof of anything

Actually we have had warming. This year is heading to be the hottest on record, so far 4 months this year have been the hottest of those months on record. Warmest 6 month period on record from Apr-Sept. Given all that, I have posted a news article 4 times today that says it is not just about years or months but decade trends (with all those pretty pictures you like) showing 2000-2009 is the warmest decade on record. Stop trolling, you have seen all of this. FUCK YOU! YOU ARE A FUCKING WASTE OF TIME! :evil: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! YOU FUCKING TROLL!!!!!!!!!
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Bullion wrote:
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meanwhile
http://www.petitionproject.org/

there are a lot of 'scientists' in the entire world. the above petition demonstrates that however skepticalscience only has a few thousand who were willing to put their name to promoting their 97% myth

That petition has problems of its own. It only requires someone to have a bachelor in science to be able to sign (doesn't matter what the science background). First guy on the list is a creationist :shock: . Also, follow up studies have been done on signatories and found people no longer agree with that petition (some don't even remember signing that petition). It is methodologically very flawed, even more so to be still bringing it up now when most of the petitions collected is 16yrs old (IPCC have had 3 assessment reports since then).


over 9000 on that list have PHDs
thats still considerably more than skeptical science can put forward and its only one country

yes your alarmist propaganda (lol 'follow up studies' ) has an answer to everything of course, its their business model to shift goalposts and squash dissent to their agenda

Edited by ricecrackers: 28/10/2014 03:57:47 PM

And why do bother putting up all these blog posts?

You should be posting from news organisations, scientific academies and peer reviewed articles from journals.

Bloggers don't have their credibility on the line and you have no way of knowing what their motives are (or their background).

When I see you posting blog posts, I just see you being lazy. Probably just a google search and just linked the first thing that popped up that backed your position.


so now you're changing tack because you've been thoroughly outpointed

are you now trying to tell me that news organisations have more credibility?

i've already debunked your "scientific academy" joint signatory statement and the numerous third world puppet state tin pot academies in the other list

peer reviewed articles? there are thousands on both sides of the divide, its pointless posting them as it proves nothing.
one paid scientist writes a paper, another one or two agrees. bam! peer reviewed. what does it prove? nothing

credibility of scientists says more, the weight of evidence says more

computer models are the only thing that the warmists have supporting their arguments.

therefore perhaps we should be asking computer programmers what the likelihood of accuracy of these models are, however the weight of evidence suggests not very

more CO2, no warming in 18 years

nobody is disputing those two facts however what some are trying to say is the warming is being hidden in other places :lol:

please, this is too funny. your gullibility is boundless it really is

if you want to find truth, follow the trail of money and see who benefits from all of this. its not the Africans, its not the planet and its not you... i can tell you now
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Bullion wrote:

[size=8]Actually we have had warming. This year is heading to be the hottest on record[/size], so far 4 months this year have been the hottest of those months on record. Warmest 6 month period on record from Apr-Sept. Given all that, I have posted a news article 4 times today that says it is not just about years or months but decade trends (with all those pretty pictures you like) showing 2000-2009 is the warmest decade on record. Stop trolling, you have seen all of this. FUCK YOU! YOU ARE A FUCKING WASTE OF TIME! :evil: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! YOU FUCKING TROLL!!!!!!!!!


provide proof and location

i know for a fact that eastern europe has experienced very early season snow this autumn so i cant see how this could possibly be true

you're meltdown is indicative of one whose brain simply cannot accommodate the dissonance of misinformation you've been led to believe

i've seen this before in other subjects.
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Bullion, there's nearly 50 pages of this rubbish. Everyone knows ricecrackers is full of shit, don't waste your time.

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mcjules wrote:
Bullion, there's nearly 50 pages of this rubbish. Everyone knows ricecrackers is full of shit, don't waste your time.


stop crying you pathetic specimen
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ricecrackers wrote:
provide proof and location


Post from The Greens, my Facebook wall two days ago.

Check fucking mate.

-PB

https://i.imgur.com/batge7K.jpg

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ricecrackers wrote:
mcjules wrote:
Bullion, there's nearly 50 pages of this rubbish. Everyone knows ricecrackers is full of shit, don't waste your time.


stop crying you pathetic specimen

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paulbagzFC wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
provide proof and location


Post from The Greens, my Facebook wall two days ago.

Check fucking mate.

-PB

=d> =d> =d>

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ricecrackers is not a good boy.

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this always ends the same way
i post an article. i school each of the attackers in the debate and the place goes into meltdown

some of you require some serious introspection
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omg how dumb is this idiot :lol:
oh dear :lol:

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The thunderstorm we had Sunday night was pretty amazing. One of my favourite things about summer in Adelaide.

Edited by mcjules: 28/10/2014 08:36:37 PM

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wow lightning
never happened before climate change :lol:
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This is from Jiuzhaigou in China. Visited once, it was really beautiful.It's at quite a high altitude and the climate changed quite rapidly over the few days I was there. One day it was cold and rainy, the next day really dry and then the last day I almost didn't get out of there as it snowed!
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thats weather pal, not climate
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paulbagzFC wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
provide proof and location


Post from The Greens, my Facebook wall two days ago.

Check fucking mate.

-PB

Can you post it here?
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ricecrackers wrote:
this always ends the same way
i post an article. i school each of the attackers in the debate and the place goes into meltdown

some of you require some serious introspection

I see you still have a vagina.

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ricecrackers wrote:
this always ends the same way
i post an article. i school each of the attackers in the debate and the place goes into meltdown

some of you require some serious introspection


Problem here is that your definition of schooling is to state your side of the argument as incontrovertible truth and posit the argument that anyone who argues the point knows nothing.

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I do believe in climate change, but it is eyebrow-raising whenever an abnormal weather event occurs and people automatically point to climate change.
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Benjamin wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
this always ends the same way
i post an article. i school each of the attackers in the debate and the place goes into meltdown

some of you require some serious introspection


Problem here is that your definition of schooling is to state your side of the argument as incontrovertible truth and posit the argument that anyone who argues the point knows nothing.


hey you started with the ad hominem buddy from the get go. this wont be forgotten.
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433 wrote:
I do believe in climate change, but it is eyebrow-raising whenever an abnormal weather event occurs and people automatically point to climate change.

This seems to occur on both sides of the argument. It's unhelpful for either point of view.
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u4486662 wrote:
433 wrote:
I do believe in climate change, but it is eyebrow-raising whenever an abnormal weather event occurs and people automatically point to climate change.

This seems to occur on both sides of the argument. It's unhelpful for either point of view.

Yep agreed. You can look at frequency of occurrence as an indicator though.

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ricecrackers wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
this always ends the same way
i post an article. i school each of the attackers in the debate and the place goes into meltdown

some of you require some serious introspection


Problem here is that your definition of schooling is to state your side of the argument as incontrovertible truth and posit the argument that anyone who argues the point knows nothing.


hey you started with the ad hominem buddy from the get go. this wont be forgotten.


:roll:
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Benjamin wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
this always ends the same way
i post an article. i school each of the attackers in the debate and the place goes into meltdown

some of you require some serious introspection


Problem here is that your definition of schooling is to state your side of the argument as incontrovertible truth and posit the argument that anyone who argues the point knows nothing.


hey you started with the ad hominem buddy from the get go. this wont be forgotten.


:roll:


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for those who don't believe that climate change is human caused which of the following four points are disputed

1. increasing carbon dioxide in a system increases the amount of heat capture in a system if the heat source is the same. This can be demonstrated at home with a simple example even if you are in primary school
https://www.teachingchannel.org/videos/climate-change-lesson-1
2. humans have increased the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
3. The climate has warmed over the last 100 years http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics.php?g=47
4. You can model the temperature of the earth's history accurately if you use Co2 as a factor as well as other factors like the sun. But there is no model which can reproduce the Earth's temperature history without including Co2 as a factor
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grazorblade wrote:
for those who don't believe that climate change is human caused which of the following four points are disputed

1. increasing carbon dioxide in a system increases the amount of heat capture in a system if the heat source is the same. This can be demonstrated at home with a simple example even if you are in primary school
https://www.teachingchannel.org/videos/climate-change-lesson-1
2. humans have increased the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
3. The climate has warmed over the last 100 years http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics.php?g=47
4. You can model the temperature of the earth's history accurately if you use Co2 as a factor as well as other factors like the sun. But there is no model which can reproduce the Earth's temperature history without including Co2 as a factor

To short circuit this here's their (or his answers)

1. A bottle isn't the Earth
2. So?
3. No it hasn't, your sources are debunked, my (dubious) source is better
4. No you can't

Yes all these responses are rubbish but I'll write them in a way that will try and get you to respond to me.

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mcjules wrote:
grazorblade wrote:
for those who don't believe that climate change is human caused which of the following four points are disputed

1. increasing carbon dioxide in a system increases the amount of heat capture in a system if the heat source is the same. This can be demonstrated at home with a simple example even if you are in primary school
https://www.teachingchannel.org/videos/climate-change-lesson-1
2. humans have increased the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
3. The climate has warmed over the last 100 years http://www.skepticalscience.com/graphics.php?g=47
4. You can model the temperature of the earth's history accurately if you use Co2 as a factor as well as other factors like the sun. But there is no model which can reproduce the Earth's temperature history without including Co2 as a factor

To short circuit this here's their (or his answers)

1. A bottle isn't the Earth
2. So?
3. No it hasn't, your sources are debunked, my (dubious) source is better
4. No you can't

Yes all these responses are rubbish but I'll write them in a way that will try and get you to respond to me.


=d>
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hot off the presses

founder of weather channel vs current CEO of weather channel

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Edited by ricecrackers: 3/11/2014 01:01:24 PM
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