Climate change: Fact or Fiction?


Climate change: Fact or Fiction?

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ricecrackers wrote:
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NUCLEAR POWER IS THE ANSWER....................................................=d> =d> =d> =d> =d>


...to what question?


unlimited power 24/7 on demand at a low cost


ok


no doubt about it......


I thought ok was a sufficient response
perhaps I should've gone with oki doki?


is it oki doki or oke doke???????????
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batfink wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
batfink wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
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NUCLEAR POWER IS THE ANSWER....................................................=d> =d> =d> =d> =d>


...to what question?


unlimited power 24/7 on demand at a low cost


ok


no doubt about it......


I thought ok was a sufficient response
perhaps I should've gone with oki doki?


is it oki doki or oke doke???????????


i dont know
on third thoughts perhaps okely dokely :-k
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Oh dear god . This is going to be good
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doubtless seeing two people communicate in a civilised manner is a foreign concept for some around here

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ricecrackers wrote:
doubtless seeing two people communicate in a civilised manner is a foreign concept for some around here


It's more like watching a pair of monkeys checkig each other for fleas.
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Fourfiveone wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
doubtless seeing two people communicate in a civilised manner is a foreign concept for some around here


It's more like watching a pair of monkeys checkig each other for fleas.



or the usual culprits

451,notor,mcjules,ballabgz ETC in the continuing circle jerk and fapfest


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batfink wrote:
Fourfiveone wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
doubtless seeing two people communicate in a civilised manner is a foreign concept for some around here


It's more like watching a pair of monkeys checkig each other for fleas.



or the usual culprits

451,notor,mcjules,ballabgz ETC in the continuing circle jerk and fapfest


"My views are outdated and stale, must be a fapfest!"

-PB

https://i.imgur.com/batge7K.jpg

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ricecrackers wrote:
your own words

here's something for you to ponder...

if A is an X and A is a Y,
are all Y's X's?


No.

What's your point?
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paulbagzFC wrote:
batfink wrote:
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ricecrackers wrote:
doubtless seeing two people communicate in a civilised manner is a foreign concept for some around here


It's more like watching a pair of monkeys checkig each other for fleas.



or the usual culprits

451,notor,mcjules,ballabgz ETC in the continuing circle jerk and fapfest


"My views are outdated and stale, must be a fapfest!"

-PB


LOL peer review! Moar like scientific hoax to keep those laborites in jobs! lol leftist circlejerk!
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So October was the hottest October on record. This year we have had the hottest April, May, June, August, September and now October on record.

We’re Tired of Telling You These Things, but Last Month Was the Hottest October on Record

And we have recently had the hottest 12month period on record:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/10/20/climate_change_records_the_earth_just_had_the_warmest_12_month_period_recorded.html

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A few days ago, I told you that—according to NASA data—we just finished the warmest six-month streak on record. Welp, it just got worse.

According to data released Monday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, last month was the warmest September on record globally. What’s more—and here’s the kicker—the NOAA says the Earth has just completed its warmest 12-month period on record. From the NOAA:

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The past 12 months—October 2013–September 2014—was the warmest 12-month period among all months since records began in 1880, at 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average. This breaks the previous record of +0.68°C (+1.22°F) set for the periods September 1997–August 1998, August 2009–July 2010; and September 2013–August 2014.

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NASA? LOL. My electricity bill went down by 20 cents. Obviously I'm using less air conditioning therefore it's not even that warm.
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Draupnir wrote:
NASA? LOL. My electricity bill went down by 20 cents. Obviously I'm using less air conditioning therefore it's not even that warm.


Not just NASA:
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According to new data released Friday from NASA and the Japanese Meteorological Agency, last month was the warmest October globally since official weather records have been kept in the late 1800s.

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Bullion wrote:
Draupnir wrote:
NASA? LOL. My electricity bill went down by 20 cents. Obviously I'm using less air conditioning therefore it's not even that warm.


Not just NASA:
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According to new data released Friday from NASA and the Japanese Meteorological Agency, last month was the warmest October globally since official weather records have been kept in the late 1800s.


Don't worry mate, I'm just acting depressingly ignorant.
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Bullion wrote:
So October was the hottest October on record. This year we have had the hottest April, May, June, August, September and now October on record.

We’re Tired of Telling You These Things, but Last Month Was the Hottest October on Record

And we have recently had the hottest 12month period on record:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/10/20/climate_change_records_the_earth_just_had_the_warmest_12_month_period_recorded.html

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A few days ago, I told you that—according to NASA data—we just finished the warmest six-month streak on record. Welp, it just got worse.

According to data released Monday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, last month was the warmest September on record globally. What’s more—and here’s the kicker—the NOAA says the Earth has just completed its warmest 12-month period on record. From the NOAA:

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The past 12 months—October 2013–September 2014—was the warmest 12-month period among all months since records began in 1880, at 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average. This breaks the previous record of +0.68°C (+1.22°F) set for the periods September 1997–August 1998, August 2009–July 2010; and September 2013–August 2014.


... But the globe isn't warming... ;)
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Great interactive chart here:

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/2014-on-track-to-be-warmest-year-18205

Can see how 2014 is tracking against the hottest year on record, 2010, and other 5 hottest on record and predictions for the final 3 months based on average temps for either 2000-2013, 1981-2010 or 1901-2000. It only includes data up to September, and we know that October is the hottest on record so it looks likely 2014 will be the hottest on record - when we are not in a full El Nino pattern, like previous record years, it is fairly indicative of other forcings (greenhouse gases) contributing to the record temperatures.

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Benjamin wrote:
Bullion wrote:
So October was the hottest October on record. This year we have had the hottest April, May, June, August, September and now October on record.

We’re Tired of Telling You These Things, but Last Month Was the Hottest October on Record

And we have recently had the hottest 12month period on record:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/10/20/climate_change_records_the_earth_just_had_the_warmest_12_month_period_recorded.html

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A few days ago, I told you that—according to NASA data—we just finished the warmest six-month streak on record. Welp, it just got worse.

According to data released Monday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, last month was the warmest September on record globally. What’s more—and here’s the kicker—the NOAA says the Earth has just completed its warmest 12-month period on record. From the NOAA:

Quote:
The past 12 months—October 2013–September 2014—was the warmest 12-month period among all months since records began in 1880, at 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average. This breaks the previous record of +0.68°C (+1.22°F) set for the periods September 1997–August 1998, August 2009–July 2010; and September 2013–August 2014.


... But the globe isn't warming... ;)

don't forget FOR 18 YEARS ;)

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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mcjules wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Bullion wrote:
So October was the hottest October on record. This year we have had the hottest April, May, June, August, September and now October on record.

We’re Tired of Telling You These Things, but Last Month Was the Hottest October on Record

And we have recently had the hottest 12month period on record:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/10/20/climate_change_records_the_earth_just_had_the_warmest_12_month_period_recorded.html

Quote:
A few days ago, I told you that—according to NASA data—we just finished the warmest six-month streak on record. Welp, it just got worse.

According to data released Monday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, last month was the warmest September on record globally. What’s more—and here’s the kicker—the NOAA says the Earth has just completed its warmest 12-month period on record. From the NOAA:

Quote:
The past 12 months—October 2013–September 2014—was the warmest 12-month period among all months since records began in 1880, at 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average. This breaks the previous record of +0.68°C (+1.22°F) set for the periods September 1997–August 1998, August 2009–July 2010; and September 2013–August 2014.


... But the globe isn't warming... ;)

don't forget FOR 18 YEARS ;)


criticizes blogs, quotes blogs as sources
too funny. such hypocrisy

welp!

how scientific, some guy that says "welp"

so its officially the hottest year on record, but there's still 2 months to go and that happens to include the northern hemisphere winter.

but lets just leave that out and add 2014 as a data point to our graph already because it serves our agenda

and lets cherry pick one month and apply it to the entire world



welp! look!
professional bullshit artist
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-holthaus/1b/280/5a7

Edited by ricecrackers: 17/11/2014 11:10:23 AM
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ricecrackers wrote:
mcjules wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Bullion wrote:
So October was the hottest October on record. This year we have had the hottest April, May, June, August, September and now October on record.

We’re Tired of Telling You These Things, but Last Month Was the Hottest October on Record

And we have recently had the hottest 12month period on record:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/10/20/climate_change_records_the_earth_just_had_the_warmest_12_month_period_recorded.html

Quote:
A few days ago, I told you that—according to NASA data—we just finished the warmest six-month streak on record. Welp, it just got worse.

According to data released Monday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, last month was the warmest September on record globally. What’s more—and here’s the kicker—the NOAA says the Earth has just completed its warmest 12-month period on record. From the NOAA:

Quote:
The past 12 months—October 2013–September 2014—was the warmest 12-month period among all months since records began in 1880, at 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average. This breaks the previous record of +0.68°C (+1.22°F) set for the periods September 1997–August 1998, August 2009–July 2010; and September 2013–August 2014.


... But the globe isn't warming... ;)

don't forget FOR 18 YEARS ;)


criticizes blogs, quotes blogs as sources
too funny. such hypocrisy

welp!

how scientific, some guy that says "welp"

so its officially the hottest year on record, but there's still 2 months to go and that happens to include the northern hemisphere winter.

but lets just leave that out and add 2014 as a data point to our graph already because it serves our agenda

and lets cherry pick one month and apply it to the entire world



welp! look!
professional bullshit artist
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-holthaus/1b/280/5a7

Edited by ricecrackers: 17/11/2014 11:10:23 AM

All temperatures reported are backed by the data (NASA and Japanese Meteorological Agency - links are there) - he is not making up anything or any predictions just reporting on now historical data.

What I don't understand with skeptics is that they are happy to accept the methodology that produced the data that showed the Earth was hot 18 yrs ago but do not accept the data produced from the same methodology that show 2010 as the hottest and 2005 as the second hottest calendar years and the year to Sept 2014 as the hottest 12month period or that April, May, June, August, September and October are the hottest for each month ever ( if Nov and Dec are average for the period 2000-2013, this calendar year will be the hottest on record).
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Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
mcjules wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Bullion wrote:
So October was the hottest October on record. This year we have had the hottest April, May, June, August, September and now October on record.

We’re Tired of Telling You These Things, but Last Month Was the Hottest October on Record

And we have recently had the hottest 12month period on record:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/10/20/climate_change_records_the_earth_just_had_the_warmest_12_month_period_recorded.html

Quote:
A few days ago, I told you that—according to NASA data—we just finished the warmest six-month streak on record. Welp, it just got worse.

According to data released Monday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, last month was the warmest September on record globally. What’s more—and here’s the kicker—the NOAA says the Earth has just completed its warmest 12-month period on record. From the NOAA:

Quote:
The past 12 months—October 2013–September 2014—was the warmest 12-month period among all months since records began in 1880, at 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average. This breaks the previous record of +0.68°C (+1.22°F) set for the periods September 1997–August 1998, August 2009–July 2010; and September 2013–August 2014.


... But the globe isn't warming... ;)

don't forget FOR 18 YEARS ;)


criticizes blogs, quotes blogs as sources
too funny. such hypocrisy

welp!

how scientific, some guy that says "welp"

so its officially the hottest year on record, but there's still 2 months to go and that happens to include the northern hemisphere winter.

but lets just leave that out and add 2014 as a data point to our graph already because it serves our agenda

and lets cherry pick one month and apply it to the entire world



welp! look!
professional bullshit artist
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-holthaus/1b/280/5a7

Edited by ricecrackers: 17/11/2014 11:10:23 AM

All temperatures reported are backed by the data (NASA and Japanese Meteorological Agency - links are there) - he is not making up anything or any predictions just reporting on now historical data.

What I don't understand with skeptics is that they are happy to accept the methodology that produced the data that showed the Earth was hot 18 yrs ago but do not accept the data produced from the same methodology that show 2010 as the hottest and 2005 as the second hottest calendar years and the year to Sept 2014 as the hottest 12month period or that April, May, June, August, September and October are the hottest for each month ever ( if Nov and Dec are average for the period 2000-2013, this calendar year will be the hottest on record).


I dont think I've ever disputed 2005 and 2010 data, although I remain skeptical given the players involved.
as for a cherry picked rolling 'year' thats manipulating data to serve an agenda. its quite clear.

what the alarmists need to understand is that if their models had any validity, there'd be a a direct/linear correlation between increase of CO2 levels and .temperature. for your entire theory to have credibility, this must happen. there is no place for pauses, much less pauses of 18 years.

on top of this, 120 years is a very small sample of climate data if thats your entire record.

what you conveniently do is ignore scientific methods of determining climate prior to 1890. you also ignore historical records prior to 1890.
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ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
mcjules wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Bullion wrote:
So October was the hottest October on record. This year we have had the hottest April, May, June, August, September and now October on record.

We’re Tired of Telling You These Things, but Last Month Was the Hottest October on Record

And we have recently had the hottest 12month period on record:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/10/20/climate_change_records_the_earth_just_had_the_warmest_12_month_period_recorded.html

Quote:
A few days ago, I told you that—according to NASA data—we just finished the warmest six-month streak on record. Welp, it just got worse.

According to data released Monday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, last month was the warmest September on record globally. What’s more—and here’s the kicker—the NOAA says the Earth has just completed its warmest 12-month period on record. From the NOAA:

Quote:
The past 12 months—October 2013–September 2014—was the warmest 12-month period among all months since records began in 1880, at 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average. This breaks the previous record of +0.68°C (+1.22°F) set for the periods September 1997–August 1998, August 2009–July 2010; and September 2013–August 2014.


... But the globe isn't warming... ;)

don't forget FOR 18 YEARS ;)


criticizes blogs, quotes blogs as sources
too funny. such hypocrisy

welp!

how scientific, some guy that says "welp"

so its officially the hottest year on record, but there's still 2 months to go and that happens to include the northern hemisphere winter.

but lets just leave that out and add 2014 as a data point to our graph already because it serves our agenda

and lets cherry pick one month and apply it to the entire world



welp! look!
professional bullshit artist
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-holthaus/1b/280/5a7

Edited by ricecrackers: 17/11/2014 11:10:23 AM

All temperatures reported are backed by the data (NASA and Japanese Meteorological Agency - links are there) - he is not making up anything or any predictions just reporting on now historical data.

What I don't understand with skeptics is that they are happy to accept the methodology that produced the data that showed the Earth was hot 18 yrs ago but do not accept the data produced from the same methodology that show 2010 as the hottest and 2005 as the second hottest calendar years and the year to Sept 2014 as the hottest 12month period or that April, May, June, August, September and October are the hottest for each month ever ( if Nov and Dec are average for the period 2000-2013, this calendar year will be the hottest on record).


I dont think I've ever disputed 2005 and 2010 data, although I remain skeptical given the players involved.
as for a cherry picked rolling 'year' thats manipulating data to serve an agenda. its quite clear.

what the alarmists need to understand is that if their models had any validity, there'd be a a direct/linear correlation between increase of CO2 levels and .temperature. for your entire theory to have credibility, this must happen. there is no place for pauses, much less pauses of 18 years.

on top of this, 120 years is a very small sample of climate data if thats your entire record.

what you conveniently do is ignore scientific methods of determining climate prior to 1890. you also ignore historical records prior to 1890.

Models to put bluntly, take historical record of climate and then add external forcings - however they can't predict El Nino or La Nina events, or whether there will be a large volcanic eruption resulting in global cooling.

The models have been fairly accurate taking into account external forcings (mainly greenhouse gasses) when looking at actual observations:


From IPCC's AR4
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Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
mcjules wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Bullion wrote:
So October was the hottest October on record. This year we have had the hottest April, May, June, August, September and now October on record.

We’re Tired of Telling You These Things, but Last Month Was the Hottest October on Record

And we have recently had the hottest 12month period on record:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/10/20/climate_change_records_the_earth_just_had_the_warmest_12_month_period_recorded.html

Quote:
A few days ago, I told you that—according to NASA data—we just finished the warmest six-month streak on record. Welp, it just got worse.

According to data released Monday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, last month was the warmest September on record globally. What’s more—and here’s the kicker—the NOAA says the Earth has just completed its warmest 12-month period on record. From the NOAA:

Quote:
The past 12 months—October 2013–September 2014—was the warmest 12-month period among all months since records began in 1880, at 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average. This breaks the previous record of +0.68°C (+1.22°F) set for the periods September 1997–August 1998, August 2009–July 2010; and September 2013–August 2014.


... But the globe isn't warming... ;)

don't forget FOR 18 YEARS ;)


criticizes blogs, quotes blogs as sources
too funny. such hypocrisy

welp!

how scientific, some guy that says "welp"

so its officially the hottest year on record, but there's still 2 months to go and that happens to include the northern hemisphere winter.

but lets just leave that out and add 2014 as a data point to our graph already because it serves our agenda

and lets cherry pick one month and apply it to the entire world



welp! look!
professional bullshit artist
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-holthaus/1b/280/5a7

Edited by ricecrackers: 17/11/2014 11:10:23 AM

All temperatures reported are backed by the data (NASA and Japanese Meteorological Agency - links are there) - he is not making up anything or any predictions just reporting on now historical data.

What I don't understand with skeptics is that they are happy to accept the methodology that produced the data that showed the Earth was hot 18 yrs ago but do not accept the data produced from the same methodology that show 2010 as the hottest and 2005 as the second hottest calendar years and the year to Sept 2014 as the hottest 12month period or that April, May, June, August, September and October are the hottest for each month ever ( if Nov and Dec are average for the period 2000-2013, this calendar year will be the hottest on record).


I dont think I've ever disputed 2005 and 2010 data, although I remain skeptical given the players involved.
as for a cherry picked rolling 'year' thats manipulating data to serve an agenda. its quite clear.

what the alarmists need to understand is that if their models had any validity, there'd be a a direct/linear correlation between increase of CO2 levels and .temperature. for your entire theory to have credibility, this must happen. there is no place for pauses, much less pauses of 18 years.

on top of this, 120 years is a very small sample of climate data if thats your entire record.

what you conveniently do is ignore scientific methods of determining climate prior to 1890. you also ignore historical records prior to 1890.

Models to put bluntly, take historical record of climate and then add external forcings - however they can't predict El Nino or La Nina events, or whether there will be a large volcanic eruption resulting in global cooling.

The models have been fairly accurate taking into account external forcings (mainly greenhouse gasses) when looking at actual observations:


From IPCC's AR4


you've just ignored most of what I've said and responded with a stupid infographic :oops:

these infographics are not proof of anything, they exist to influence you.

you cant make this up as you go along. you cant just use el nino, la nina, volcanoes as an excuse when it suits you

this has no credibility
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ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
mcjules wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Bullion wrote:
So October was the hottest October on record. This year we have had the hottest April, May, June, August, September and now October on record.

We’re Tired of Telling You These Things, but Last Month Was the Hottest October on Record

And we have recently had the hottest 12month period on record:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/10/20/climate_change_records_the_earth_just_had_the_warmest_12_month_period_recorded.html

Quote:
A few days ago, I told you that—according to NASA data—we just finished the warmest six-month streak on record. Welp, it just got worse.

According to data released Monday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, last month was the warmest September on record globally. What’s more—and here’s the kicker—the NOAA says the Earth has just completed its warmest 12-month period on record. From the NOAA:

Quote:
The past 12 months—October 2013–September 2014—was the warmest 12-month period among all months since records began in 1880, at 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average. This breaks the previous record of +0.68°C (+1.22°F) set for the periods September 1997–August 1998, August 2009–July 2010; and September 2013–August 2014.


... But the globe isn't warming... ;)

don't forget FOR 18 YEARS ;)


criticizes blogs, quotes blogs as sources
too funny. such hypocrisy

welp!

how scientific, some guy that says "welp"

so its officially the hottest year on record, but there's still 2 months to go and that happens to include the northern hemisphere winter.

but lets just leave that out and add 2014 as a data point to our graph already because it serves our agenda

and lets cherry pick one month and apply it to the entire world



welp! look!
professional bullshit artist
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-holthaus/1b/280/5a7

Edited by ricecrackers: 17/11/2014 11:10:23 AM

All temperatures reported are backed by the data (NASA and Japanese Meteorological Agency - links are there) - he is not making up anything or any predictions just reporting on now historical data.

What I don't understand with skeptics is that they are happy to accept the methodology that produced the data that showed the Earth was hot 18 yrs ago but do not accept the data produced from the same methodology that show 2010 as the hottest and 2005 as the second hottest calendar years and the year to Sept 2014 as the hottest 12month period or that April, May, June, August, September and October are the hottest for each month ever ( if Nov and Dec are average for the period 2000-2013, this calendar year will be the hottest on record).


I dont think I've ever disputed 2005 and 2010 data, although I remain skeptical given the players involved.
as for a cherry picked rolling 'year' thats manipulating data to serve an agenda. its quite clear.

what the alarmists need to understand is that if their models had any validity, there'd be a a direct/linear correlation between increase of CO2 levels and .temperature. for your entire theory to have credibility, this must happen. there is no place for pauses, much less pauses of 18 years.

on top of this, 120 years is a very small sample of climate data if thats your entire record.

what you conveniently do is ignore scientific methods of determining climate prior to 1890. you also ignore historical records prior to 1890.

I don't understand how you can contradict yourself within one post.

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.
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Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
mcjules wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Bullion wrote:
So October was the hottest October on record. This year we have had the hottest April, May, June, August, September and now October on record.

We’re Tired of Telling You These Things, but Last Month Was the Hottest October on Record

And we have recently had the hottest 12month period on record:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/10/20/climate_change_records_the_earth_just_had_the_warmest_12_month_period_recorded.html

Quote:
A few days ago, I told you that—according to NASA data—we just finished the warmest six-month streak on record. Welp, it just got worse.

According to data released Monday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, last month was the warmest September on record globally. What’s more—and here’s the kicker—the NOAA says the Earth has just completed its warmest 12-month period on record. From the NOAA:

Quote:
The past 12 months—October 2013–September 2014—was the warmest 12-month period among all months since records began in 1880, at 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average. This breaks the previous record of +0.68°C (+1.22°F) set for the periods September 1997–August 1998, August 2009–July 2010; and September 2013–August 2014.


... But the globe isn't warming... ;)

don't forget FOR 18 YEARS ;)


criticizes blogs, quotes blogs as sources
too funny. such hypocrisy

welp!

how scientific, some guy that says "welp"

so its officially the hottest year on record, but there's still 2 months to go and that happens to include the northern hemisphere winter.

but lets just leave that out and add 2014 as a data point to our graph already because it serves our agenda

and lets cherry pick one month and apply it to the entire world



welp! look!
professional bullshit artist
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-holthaus/1b/280/5a7

Edited by ricecrackers: 17/11/2014 11:10:23 AM

All temperatures reported are backed by the data (NASA and Japanese Meteorological Agency - links are there) - he is not making up anything or any predictions just reporting on now historical data.

What I don't understand with skeptics is that they are happy to accept the methodology that produced the data that showed the Earth was hot 18 yrs ago but do not accept the data produced from the same methodology that show 2010 as the hottest and 2005 as the second hottest calendar years and the year to Sept 2014 as the hottest 12month period or that April, May, June, August, September and October are the hottest for each month ever ( if Nov and Dec are average for the period 2000-2013, this calendar year will be the hottest on record).


I dont think I've ever disputed 2005 and 2010 data, although I remain skeptical given the players involved.
as for a cherry picked rolling 'year' thats manipulating data to serve an agenda. its quite clear.

what the alarmists need to understand is that if their models had any validity, there'd be a a direct/linear correlation between increase of CO2 levels and .temperature. for your entire theory to have credibility, this must happen. there is no place for pauses, much less pauses of 18 years.

on top of this, 120 years is a very small sample of climate data if thats your entire record.

what you conveniently do is ignore scientific methods of determining climate prior to 1890. you also ignore historical records prior to 1890.

I don't understand how you can contradict yourself within one post.

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.


you dont even know what you're talking about
the increase in temperatures paused for 18 years. this is a trend which defies all of your models.

you're cherry picking data points which i've neither agreed nor disagreed with.
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ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
mcjules wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Bullion wrote:
So October was the hottest October on record. This year we have had the hottest April, May, June, August, September and now October on record.

We’re Tired of Telling You These Things, but Last Month Was the Hottest October on Record

And we have recently had the hottest 12month period on record:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/10/20/climate_change_records_the_earth_just_had_the_warmest_12_month_period_recorded.html

Quote:
A few days ago, I told you that—according to NASA data—we just finished the warmest six-month streak on record. Welp, it just got worse.

According to data released Monday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, last month was the warmest September on record globally. What’s more—and here’s the kicker—the NOAA says the Earth has just completed its warmest 12-month period on record. From the NOAA:

Quote:
The past 12 months—October 2013–September 2014—was the warmest 12-month period among all months since records began in 1880, at 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average. This breaks the previous record of +0.68°C (+1.22°F) set for the periods September 1997–August 1998, August 2009–July 2010; and September 2013–August 2014.


... But the globe isn't warming... ;)

don't forget FOR 18 YEARS ;)


criticizes blogs, quotes blogs as sources
too funny. such hypocrisy

welp!

how scientific, some guy that says "welp"

so its officially the hottest year on record, but there's still 2 months to go and that happens to include the northern hemisphere winter.

but lets just leave that out and add 2014 as a data point to our graph already because it serves our agenda

and lets cherry pick one month and apply it to the entire world



welp! look!
professional bullshit artist
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-holthaus/1b/280/5a7

Edited by ricecrackers: 17/11/2014 11:10:23 AM

All temperatures reported are backed by the data (NASA and Japanese Meteorological Agency - links are there) - he is not making up anything or any predictions just reporting on now historical data.

What I don't understand with skeptics is that they are happy to accept the methodology that produced the data that showed the Earth was hot 18 yrs ago but do not accept the data produced from the same methodology that show 2010 as the hottest and 2005 as the second hottest calendar years and the year to Sept 2014 as the hottest 12month period or that April, May, June, August, September and October are the hottest for each month ever ( if Nov and Dec are average for the period 2000-2013, this calendar year will be the hottest on record).


I dont think I've ever disputed 2005 and 2010 data, although I remain skeptical given the players involved.
as for a cherry picked rolling 'year' thats manipulating data to serve an agenda. its quite clear.

what the alarmists need to understand is that if their models had any validity, there'd be a a direct/linear correlation between increase of CO2 levels and .temperature. for your entire theory to have credibility, this must happen. there is no place for pauses, much less pauses of 18 years.

on top of this, 120 years is a very small sample of climate data if thats your entire record.

what you conveniently do is ignore scientific methods of determining climate prior to 1890. you also ignore historical records prior to 1890.

I don't understand how you can contradict yourself within one post.

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.


you dont even know what you're talking about
the increase in temperatures paused for 18 years. this is a trend which defies all of your models.

you're cherry picking data points which i've neither agreed nor disagreed with.

Just saying that you agree with the methodology that shows high temp 18 years ago, yet you don't agree with that same methodology when it shows there has been no pause.

Edited by Bullion: 17/11/2014 01:49:43 PM
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Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
mcjules wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Bullion wrote:
So October was the hottest October on record. This year we have had the hottest April, May, June, August, September and now October on record.

We’re Tired of Telling You These Things, but Last Month Was the Hottest October on Record

And we have recently had the hottest 12month period on record:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/10/20/climate_change_records_the_earth_just_had_the_warmest_12_month_period_recorded.html

Quote:
A few days ago, I told you that—according to NASA data—we just finished the warmest six-month streak on record. Welp, it just got worse.

According to data released Monday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, last month was the warmest September on record globally. What’s more—and here’s the kicker—the NOAA says the Earth has just completed its warmest 12-month period on record. From the NOAA:

Quote:
The past 12 months—October 2013–September 2014—was the warmest 12-month period among all months since records began in 1880, at 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average. This breaks the previous record of +0.68°C (+1.22°F) set for the periods September 1997–August 1998, August 2009–July 2010; and September 2013–August 2014.


... But the globe isn't warming... ;)

don't forget FOR 18 YEARS ;)


criticizes blogs, quotes blogs as sources
too funny. such hypocrisy

welp!

how scientific, some guy that says "welp"

so its officially the hottest year on record, but there's still 2 months to go and that happens to include the northern hemisphere winter.

but lets just leave that out and add 2014 as a data point to our graph already because it serves our agenda

and lets cherry pick one month and apply it to the entire world



welp! look!
professional bullshit artist
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-holthaus/1b/280/5a7

Edited by ricecrackers: 17/11/2014 11:10:23 AM

All temperatures reported are backed by the data (NASA and Japanese Meteorological Agency - links are there) - he is not making up anything or any predictions just reporting on now historical data.

What I don't understand with skeptics is that they are happy to accept the methodology that produced the data that showed the Earth was hot 18 yrs ago but do not accept the data produced from the same methodology that show 2010 as the hottest and 2005 as the second hottest calendar years and the year to Sept 2014 as the hottest 12month period or that April, May, June, August, September and October are the hottest for each month ever ( if Nov and Dec are average for the period 2000-2013, this calendar year will be the hottest on record).


I dont think I've ever disputed 2005 and 2010 data, although I remain skeptical given the players involved.
as for a cherry picked rolling 'year' thats manipulating data to serve an agenda. its quite clear.

what the alarmists need to understand is that if their models had any validity, there'd be a a direct/linear correlation between increase of CO2 levels and .temperature. for your entire theory to have credibility, this must happen. there is no place for pauses, much less pauses of 18 years.

on top of this, 120 years is a very small sample of climate data if thats your entire record.

what you conveniently do is ignore scientific methods of determining climate prior to 1890. you also ignore historical records prior to 1890.

I don't understand how you can contradict yourself within one post.

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.


you dont even know what you're talking about
the increase in temperatures paused for 18 years. this is a trend which defies all of your models.

you're cherry picking data points which i've neither agreed nor disagreed with.

Just saying that you agree with the methodology that shows high temp 18 years ago, yet you don't agree with that same methodology when it shows there has been no pause.

Edited by Bullion: 17/11/2014 01:49:43 PM


you dont even know what I agree with

its up to the powers that be to provide consistency on this and that they've failed to do which undermines their credibility
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ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
mcjules wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Bullion wrote:
So October was the hottest October on record. This year we have had the hottest April, May, June, August, September and now October on record.

We’re Tired of Telling You These Things, but Last Month Was the Hottest October on Record

And we have recently had the hottest 12month period on record:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/10/20/climate_change_records_the_earth_just_had_the_warmest_12_month_period_recorded.html

Quote:
A few days ago, I told you that—according to NASA data—we just finished the warmest six-month streak on record. Welp, it just got worse.

According to data released Monday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, last month was the warmest September on record globally. What’s more—and here’s the kicker—the NOAA says the Earth has just completed its warmest 12-month period on record. From the NOAA:

Quote:
The past 12 months—October 2013–September 2014—was the warmest 12-month period among all months since records began in 1880, at 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average. This breaks the previous record of +0.68°C (+1.22°F) set for the periods September 1997–August 1998, August 2009–July 2010; and September 2013–August 2014.


... But the globe isn't warming... ;)

don't forget FOR 18 YEARS ;)


criticizes blogs, quotes blogs as sources
too funny. such hypocrisy

welp!

how scientific, some guy that says "welp"

so its officially the hottest year on record, but there's still 2 months to go and that happens to include the northern hemisphere winter.

but lets just leave that out and add 2014 as a data point to our graph already because it serves our agenda

and lets cherry pick one month and apply it to the entire world



welp! look!
professional bullshit artist
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-holthaus/1b/280/5a7

Edited by ricecrackers: 17/11/2014 11:10:23 AM

All temperatures reported are backed by the data (NASA and Japanese Meteorological Agency - links are there) - he is not making up anything or any predictions just reporting on now historical data.

What I don't understand with skeptics is that they are happy to accept the methodology that produced the data that showed the Earth was hot 18 yrs ago but do not accept the data produced from the same methodology that show 2010 as the hottest and 2005 as the second hottest calendar years and the year to Sept 2014 as the hottest 12month period or that April, May, June, August, September and October are the hottest for each month ever ( if Nov and Dec are average for the period 2000-2013, this calendar year will be the hottest on record).


I dont think I've ever disputed 2005 and 2010 data, although I remain skeptical given the players involved.
as for a cherry picked rolling 'year' thats manipulating data to serve an agenda. its quite clear.

what the alarmists need to understand is that if their models had any validity, there'd be a a direct/linear correlation between increase of CO2 levels and .temperature. for your entire theory to have credibility, this must happen. there is no place for pauses, much less pauses of 18 years.

on top of this, 120 years is a very small sample of climate data if thats your entire record.

what you conveniently do is ignore scientific methods of determining climate prior to 1890. you also ignore historical records prior to 1890.

I don't understand how you can contradict yourself within one post.

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.


you dont even know what you're talking about
the increase in temperatures paused for 18 years. this is a trend which defies all of your models.

you're cherry picking data points which i've neither agreed nor disagreed with.

Just saying that you agree with the methodology that shows high temp 18 years ago, yet you don't agree with that same methodology when it shows there has been no pause.

Edited by Bullion: 17/11/2014 01:49:43 PM


you dont even know what I agree with

its up to the powers that be to provide consistency on this and that they've failed to do which undermines their credibility

You don't even know what you agree with.


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Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
mcjules wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Bullion wrote:
So October was the hottest October on record. This year we have had the hottest April, May, June, August, September and now October on record.

We’re Tired of Telling You These Things, but Last Month Was the Hottest October on Record

And we have recently had the hottest 12month period on record:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/10/20/climate_change_records_the_earth_just_had_the_warmest_12_month_period_recorded.html

Quote:
A few days ago, I told you that—according to NASA data—we just finished the warmest six-month streak on record. Welp, it just got worse.

According to data released Monday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, last month was the warmest September on record globally. What’s more—and here’s the kicker—the NOAA says the Earth has just completed its warmest 12-month period on record. From the NOAA:

Quote:
The past 12 months—October 2013–September 2014—was the warmest 12-month period among all months since records began in 1880, at 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average. This breaks the previous record of +0.68°C (+1.22°F) set for the periods September 1997–August 1998, August 2009–July 2010; and September 2013–August 2014.


... But the globe isn't warming... ;)

don't forget FOR 18 YEARS ;)


criticizes blogs, quotes blogs as sources
too funny. such hypocrisy

welp!

how scientific, some guy that says "welp"

so its officially the hottest year on record, but there's still 2 months to go and that happens to include the northern hemisphere winter.

but lets just leave that out and add 2014 as a data point to our graph already because it serves our agenda

and lets cherry pick one month and apply it to the entire world



welp! look!
professional bullshit artist
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-holthaus/1b/280/5a7

Edited by ricecrackers: 17/11/2014 11:10:23 AM

All temperatures reported are backed by the data (NASA and Japanese Meteorological Agency - links are there) - he is not making up anything or any predictions just reporting on now historical data.

What I don't understand with skeptics is that they are happy to accept the methodology that produced the data that showed the Earth was hot 18 yrs ago but do not accept the data produced from the same methodology that show 2010 as the hottest and 2005 as the second hottest calendar years and the year to Sept 2014 as the hottest 12month period or that April, May, June, August, September and October are the hottest for each month ever ( if Nov and Dec are average for the period 2000-2013, this calendar year will be the hottest on record).


I dont think I've ever disputed 2005 and 2010 data, although I remain skeptical given the players involved.
as for a cherry picked rolling 'year' thats manipulating data to serve an agenda. its quite clear.

what the alarmists need to understand is that if their models had any validity, there'd be a a direct/linear correlation between increase of CO2 levels and .temperature. for your entire theory to have credibility, this must happen. there is no place for pauses, much less pauses of 18 years.

on top of this, 120 years is a very small sample of climate data if thats your entire record.

what you conveniently do is ignore scientific methods of determining climate prior to 1890. you also ignore historical records prior to 1890.

I don't understand how you can contradict yourself within one post.

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.


you dont even know what you're talking about
the increase in temperatures paused for 18 years. this is a trend which defies all of your models.

you're cherry picking data points which i've neither agreed nor disagreed with.

Just saying that you agree with the methodology that shows high temp 18 years ago, yet you don't agree with that same methodology when it shows there has been no pause.

Edited by Bullion: 17/11/2014 01:49:43 PM


you dont even know what I agree with

its up to the powers that be to provide consistency on this and that they've failed to do which undermines their credibility

You don't even know what you agree with.



i'm secure in my position and you'll never convince me otherwise. I've already entertained believing all of this. Been there, done that, and now arrived at the truth of it all.

Can you say the same thing? that you've given serious consideration to the other side of the argument?

the alarmists keep shifting the goalposts to justify the inconsistencies in their lies which are being exposed as every year passes.

if you had any idea of the money trail on all of this, how this entire issue is being monetized, you'd realise it stopped being about science around 30 years ago.

capisce?
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So October was the hottest October on record. This year we have had the hottest April, May, June, August, September and now October on record.


ricecrackers wrote:
lets cherry pick one month and apply it to the entire world


I've always liked March, because that's when my birthday is - but I do like AprilMayJuneAugustSeptemberOctober, that's one month I really enjoy. :lol:
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Benjamin wrote:
Bullion wrote:
So October was the hottest October on record. [size=8]This year we have had the hottest April, May, June, August, September and now October on record.[/size]


ricecrackers wrote:
lets cherry pick one month and apply it to the entire world


I've always liked March, because that's when my birthday is - but I do like AprilMayJuneAugustSeptemberOctober, that's one month I really enjoy. :lol:


Quote:
Globally, the average land surface temperature was the sixth highest on record for September

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/

you cant even interpret your own sources correctly


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ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Bullion wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
mcjules wrote:
Benjamin wrote:
Bullion wrote:
So October was the hottest October on record. This year we have had the hottest April, May, June, August, September and now October on record.

We’re Tired of Telling You These Things, but Last Month Was the Hottest October on Record

And we have recently had the hottest 12month period on record:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/10/20/climate_change_records_the_earth_just_had_the_warmest_12_month_period_recorded.html

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A few days ago, I told you that—according to NASA data—we just finished the warmest six-month streak on record. Welp, it just got worse.

According to data released Monday by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, last month was the warmest September on record globally. What’s more—and here’s the kicker—the NOAA says the Earth has just completed its warmest 12-month period on record. From the NOAA:

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The past 12 months—October 2013–September 2014—was the warmest 12-month period among all months since records began in 1880, at 0.69°C (1.24°F) above the 20th century average. This breaks the previous record of +0.68°C (+1.22°F) set for the periods September 1997–August 1998, August 2009–July 2010; and September 2013–August 2014.


... But the globe isn't warming... ;)

don't forget FOR 18 YEARS ;)


criticizes blogs, quotes blogs as sources
too funny. such hypocrisy

welp!

how scientific, some guy that says "welp"

so its officially the hottest year on record, but there's still 2 months to go and that happens to include the northern hemisphere winter.

but lets just leave that out and add 2014 as a data point to our graph already because it serves our agenda

and lets cherry pick one month and apply it to the entire world



welp! look!
professional bullshit artist
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-holthaus/1b/280/5a7

Edited by ricecrackers: 17/11/2014 11:10:23 AM

All temperatures reported are backed by the data (NASA and Japanese Meteorological Agency - links are there) - he is not making up anything or any predictions just reporting on now historical data.

What I don't understand with skeptics is that they are happy to accept the methodology that produced the data that showed the Earth was hot 18 yrs ago but do not accept the data produced from the same methodology that show 2010 as the hottest and 2005 as the second hottest calendar years and the year to Sept 2014 as the hottest 12month period or that April, May, June, August, September and October are the hottest for each month ever ( if Nov and Dec are average for the period 2000-2013, this calendar year will be the hottest on record).


I dont think I've ever disputed 2005 and 2010 data, although I remain skeptical given the players involved.
as for a cherry picked rolling 'year' thats manipulating data to serve an agenda. its quite clear.

what the alarmists need to understand is that if their models had any validity, there'd be a a direct/linear correlation between increase of CO2 levels and .temperature. for your entire theory to have credibility, this must happen. there is no place for pauses, much less pauses of 18 years.

on top of this, 120 years is a very small sample of climate data if thats your entire record.

what you conveniently do is ignore scientific methods of determining climate prior to 1890. you also ignore historical records prior to 1890.

I don't understand how you can contradict yourself within one post.

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.


you dont even know what you're talking about
the increase in temperatures paused for 18 years. this is a trend which defies all of your models.

you're cherry picking data points which i've neither agreed nor disagreed with.

Just saying that you agree with the methodology that shows high temp 18 years ago, yet you don't agree with that same methodology when it shows there has been no pause.

Edited by Bullion: 17/11/2014 01:49:43 PM


you dont even know what I agree with

its up to the powers that be to provide consistency on this and that they've failed to do which undermines their credibility

You don't even know what you agree with.



i'm secure in my position and you'll never convince me otherwise. I've already entertained believing all of this. Been there, done that, and now arrived at the truth of it all.

Can you say the same thing? that you've given serious consideration to the other side of the argument?

the alarmists keep shifting the goalposts to justify the inconsistencies in their lies which are being exposed as every year passes.

if you had any idea of the money trail on all of this, how this entire issue is being monetized, you'd realise it stopped being about science around 30 years ago.

capisce?

And, you will never convince me otherwise. I have spent a lot of time and effort looking into this and the science is compelling and more so over time as our understanding continues to improve.
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