Climate change: Fact or Fiction?


Climate change: Fact or Fiction?

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paladisious wrote:
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so by taking a position on climate change that is unpopular with your members, I'm harming the forum atmosphere?

When did I mention climate change? Your transgressions against forum atmosphere have consisted of your unsociable demeanour including ad hominem attacks against myself and many other forumers.

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do you realise that several other members, notable mcjules and draupnir continually raise this topic in various football related and other unrelated threads as a means of adhominem whenever I post?


Nope, never saw any evidence of this myself. Maybe you're just being a little to precious when people disagree with you?

ricecrackers wrote:
who is harming the forum atmosphere?

You, generally. See above.

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again you're threatening me. this seems to be a theme with you. does it make you feel better about yourself?

Never threatened you with anything. You solely represent yourself at all times.

I feel super great, thanks for asking, I've having a lovely evening in and a sleep in tomorrow as my work engagement is not until 12:00. You?

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yet another multi? I've never had any multis

I'm not sure that I believe you on that one.

ricecrackers wrote:
so there again is proof you're lying again. proof to me because I know the truth.

Proof to you, or proof to the forum? Onus is on you to back your assertions against me, buddy.


er no, the onus is on you to prove the baseless accusations you have made and dont deny you have when the evidence is in this thread

you've been found out and any reasonable person would be able to see this.

unfortunately, due to your moderation policy reason is in short supply around here.

if you make a direct accusation against me I'm going to know the truth of whether that is true or not, so I'm in the perfect position to rebuke it.

I find your charges offensive, why would I not react with hostility
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ricecrackers is the cause of climate change.

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just give it a rest ricey :lol:
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switters wrote:
just give it a rest ricey :lol:


why should I? if you dont take a stand for something you believe in then what are you?
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ricecrackers wrote:
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just give it a rest ricey :lol:


why should I? if you dont take a stand for something you believe in then what are you?
And when you pass on many many years in the future (I hope of natural causes) you'll be remembered fondly by the world for what you did on an Australian football forum that the parent company no longer wants.I wish you nothing but the best =d>

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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er no, the onus is on you to prove the baseless accusations you have made and dont deny you have when the evidence is in this thread

"Hey Ricey". Not exactly a High Court subpoena and yet you came out all guns blazing. Nothing suss.

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you've been found out and any reasonable person would be able to see this.

Yeah they're lining up around the corner to agree with you. :lol:

ricecrackers wrote:
unfortunately, due to your moderation policy reason is in short supply around here.

You're right, I should of banned you long ago, and hence unreasonable people like yourself are allowed a voice around here. Good point.

ricecrackers wrote:
if you make a direct accusation against me I'm going to know the truth of whether that is true or not, so I'm in the perfect position to rebuke it.

Let me get my head around this. You're the perfect arbiter of any disagreement between the two of us, even though you are yourself a party in that argument, because you say so? I'm not sure that washes with logic.

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I find your charges offensive, why would I not react with hostility

So you admit you are acting in a hostile manner here? I've shown you nothing but respect and sympathy and asked honest questions and yet you respond with these paranoid ad hominem attacks.

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mcjules wrote:
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switters wrote:
just give it a rest ricey :lol:


why should I? if you dont take a stand for something you believe in then what are you?
And when you pass on many many years in the future (I hope of natural causes) you'll be remembered fondly by the world for what you did on an Australian football forum that the parent company no longer wants.I wish you nothing but the best =d>


I'm talking about my reputation being smeared for no good reason

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paladisious wrote:
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er no, the onus is on you to prove the baseless accusations you have made and dont deny you have when the evidence is in this thread

"Hey Ricey". Not exactly a High Court subpoena and yet you came out all guns blazing. Nothing suss.

ricecrackers wrote:
you've been found out and any reasonable person would be able to see this.

Yeah they're lining up around the corner to agree with you. :lol:

ricecrackers wrote:
unfortunately, due to your moderation policy reason is in short supply around here.

You're right, I should of banned you long ago, and hence unreasonable people like yourself are allowed a voice around here. Good point.

ricecrackers wrote:
if you make a direct accusation against me I'm going to know the truth of whether that is true or not, so I'm in the perfect position to rebuke it.

Let me get my head around this. You're the perfect arbiter of any disagreement between the two of us, even though you are yourself a party in that argument, because you say so? I'm not sure that washes with logic.

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I find your charges offensive, why would I not react with hostility

So you admit you are acting in a hostile manner here? I've shown you nothing but respect and sympathy and asked honest questions and yet you respond with these paranoid ad hominem attacks.

Edited by paladisious: 1/7/2015 09:51:39 PM


you've passed off as common fact that I've had other multis. you said it in this thread. do you deny this YES or NO?
you've done this in addition to calling another poster by my handle. do you deny this YES or NO?

if you make a claim about me and pass it as fact and I know it to be false, then I know you're lying.

this is not a court, this is about me knowing you're lying and you knowing you're lying.

everyone else can please themselves

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ricecrackers wrote:
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just give it a rest ricey :lol:


why should I? if you dont take a stand for something you believe in then what are you?
And when you pass on many many years in the future (I hope of natural causes) you'll be remembered fondly by the world for what you did on an Australian football forum that the parent company no longer wants.I wish you nothing but the best =d>


I'm talking about my reputation being smeared for no good reason




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ricey is andrew bolt . Says it all really .
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ricecrackers wrote:
you've passed off as common fact that I've had other multis. you said it in this thread. do you deny this YES or NO?
you've done this in addition to calling another poster by my handle. do you deny this YES or NO?


You asked and have had answered this question already, replete with your all caps "YES or NO".

You're getting boring, Ricey.

And yes, that's an accusation with ample proof.

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if you make a claim about me and pass it as fact and I know it to be false, then I know you're lying.

this is not a court, this is about me knowing you're lying and you knowing you're lying.


Judge Ricey, spare me, please. You can "know" what you like, but you know in your heart that your reputation precedes you on this forum with your "truths", especially when it comes to unsociable ad hominem attacks on people who are here to talk about football. If you can prove something in these ad hominem attacks, great, (spoiler: you can't) but even then that's all they'd be, ad hominem digs on a football forum.

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everyone else can please themselves


Yeah, all indications are that they're very pleased and entertained at your expense right now, keep up the good work.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:

ricey is andrew bolt . Says it all really .


nothing to do with free speech
this is a private forum

however when someone's reputation is smeared its a different matter altogether
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:lol: reputation smeared :lol: yeah ok mate. For all we know you're just some person being paid by someone to go on a football forum and troll . Fucks sake for someone who is apparently a uni graduate you have a lot of time to peruse this forum. Do you actually do work ? Or are you to preoccupied on this forum to do anything? ?
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paladisious wrote:
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you've passed off as common fact that I've had other multis. you said it in this thread. do you deny this YES or NO?
you've done this in addition to calling another poster by my handle. do you deny this YES or NO?


You asked and have had answered this question already, replete with your all caps "YES or NO".

You're getting boring, Ricey.

And yes, that's an accusation with ample proof.

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if you make a claim about me and pass it as fact and I know it to be false, then I know you're lying.

this is not a court, this is about me knowing you're lying and you knowing you're lying.


Judge Ricey, spare me, please. You can "know" what you like, but you know in your heart that your reputation precedes you on this forum with your "truths", especially when it comes to unsociable ad hominem attacks on people who are here to talk about football. If you can prove something in these ad hominem attacks, great, (spoiler: you can't) but even then that's all they'd be, ad hominem digs on a football forum.

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everyone else can please themselves


Yeah, all indications are that they're very pleased and entertained at your expense right now, keep up the good work.


you're avoiding the questions by deflecting and being vague

its quite simple. why do you make it complicated? why, because you're cornered.


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ricecrackers wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:

ricey is andrew bolt . Says it all really .


nothing to do with free speech
this is a private forum

however when someone's reputation is smeared its a different matter altogether


Stop smearing your reputation, then.
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ricecrackers wrote:
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you've passed off as common fact that I've had other multis. you said it in this thread. do you deny this YES or NO?
you've done this in addition to calling another poster by my handle. do you deny this YES or NO?


You asked and have had answered this question already, replete with your all caps "YES or NO".

You're getting boring, Ricey.

And yes, that's an accusation with ample proof.

ricecrackers wrote:
if you make a claim about me and pass it as fact and I know it to be false, then I know you're lying.

this is not a court, this is about me knowing you're lying and you knowing you're lying.


Judge Ricey, spare me, please. You can "know" what you like, but you know in your heart that your reputation precedes you on this forum with your "truths", especially when it comes to unsociable ad hominem attacks on people who are here to talk about football. If you can prove something in these ad hominem attacks, great, (spoiler: you can't) but even then that's all they'd be, ad hominem digs on a football forum.

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everyone else can please themselves


Yeah, all indications are that they're very pleased and entertained at your expense right now, keep up the good work.


you're avoiding the questions by deflecting and being vague

its quite simple. why do you make it complicated? why, because you're cornered.


Give up wamakie . Seriously you're like a mouse that keeps on goinf back for the slice of cheese
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
:lol: reputation smeared :lol: yeah ok mate. For all we know you're just some person being paid by someone to go on a football forum and troll . Fucks sake for someone who is apparently a uni graduate you have a lot of time to peruse this forum. Do you actually do work ? Or are you to preoccupied on this forum to do anything? ?


how am I trolling in this thread?

I presented evidence relating to the thread topic a day or so ago and ever since I've endured personal attacks, some of which I've responded to in type

since then I've been accused of running multis without basis and now I'm being threatened with being banned

MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:

Give up wamakie . Seriously you're like a mouse that keeps on goinf back for the slice of cheese


who?

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ricecrackers wrote:
you're avoiding the questions by deflecting and being vague

its quite simple. why do you make it complicated? why, because you're cornered.


Answering a multi point rebuttal with a single accusation, and that actual accusation is that I'm the one being vague?


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paladisious wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
you're avoiding the questions by deflecting and being vague

its quite simple. why do you make it complicated? why, because you're cornered.


Answering a multi point rebuttal with a single accusation, and that actual accusation is that I'm the one being vague?



you cannot rebut without answering direct YES or NO questions
stay on point. you continue to deflect because you know you're cornered
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ricecrackers wrote:
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:lol: reputation smeared :lol: yeah ok mate. For all we know you're just some person being paid by someone to go on a football forum and troll . Fucks sake for someone who is apparently a uni graduate you have a lot of time to peruse this forum. Do you actually do work ? Or are you to preoccupied on this forum to do anything? ?


how am I trolling in this thread?

I presented evidence relating to the thread topic a day or so ago and ever since I've endured personal attacks, some of which I've responded to in type

since then I've been accused of running multis without basis and now I'm being threatened with being banned

MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:

Give up wamakie . Seriously you're like a mouse that keeps on goinf back for the slice of cheese


who?

Edited by ricecrackers: 1/7/2015 10:27:38 PM

So repressed.
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ricecrackers wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
:lol: reputation smeared :lol: yeah ok mate. For all we know you're just some person being paid by someone to go on a football forum and troll . Fucks sake for someone who is apparently a uni graduate you have a lot of time to peruse this forum. Do you actually do work ? Or are you to preoccupied on this forum to do anything? ?


how am I trolling in this thread?

I presented evidence relating to the thread topic a day or so ago and ever since I've endured personal attacks, some of which I've responded to in type

since then I've been accused of running multis without basis and now I'm being threatened with being banned

MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:

Give up wamakie . Seriously you're like a mouse that keeps on goinf back for the slice of cheese


who?

Edited by ricecrackers: 1/7/2015 10:27:38 PM

ah "evidence" you mean the shit you posted ? The same shit you bag paul bagz for talking about the subject and he doesnt have the right "creditdentials:. Seriously mate give up.
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ricecrackers wrote:
paladisious wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
you're avoiding the questions by deflecting and being vague

its quite simple. why do you make it complicated? why, because you're cornered.


Answering a multi point rebuttal with a single accusation, and that actual accusation is that I'm the one being vague?



you cannot rebut without answering direct YES or NO questions
stay on point. you continue to deflect because you know you're cornered

I already answered your direct "YES or NO" questions.

You're ignoring my answers to you that I took time to write, it's very disrespectful.

I won't go over old ground with you again.
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:
:lol: reputation smeared :lol: yeah ok mate. For all we know you're just some person being paid by someone to go on a football forum and troll . Fucks sake for someone who is apparently a uni graduate you have a lot of time to peruse this forum. Do you actually do work ? Or are you to preoccupied on this forum to do anything? ?


how am I trolling in this thread?

I presented evidence relating to the thread topic a day or so ago and ever since I've endured personal attacks, some of which I've responded to in type

since then I've been accused of running multis without basis and now I'm being threatened with being banned

MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:

Give up wamakie . Seriously you're like a mouse that keeps on goinf back for the slice of cheese


who?

Edited by ricecrackers: 1/7/2015 10:27:38 PM

ah "evidence" you mean the shit you posted ? The same shit you bag paul bagz for talking about the subject and he doesnt have the right "creditdentials:. Seriously mate give up.


what are you talking about?
so two people post something you find disagreeable and you immediately assume they're the same person?

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paladisious wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
paladisious wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
you're avoiding the questions by deflecting and being vague

its quite simple. why do you make it complicated? why, because you're cornered.


Answering a multi point rebuttal with a single accusation, and that actual accusation is that I'm the one being vague?



you cannot rebut without answering direct YES or NO questions
stay on point. you continue to deflect because you know you're cornered

I already answered your direct "YES or NO" questions.

You're ignoring my answers to you that I took time to write, it's very disrespectful.

I won't go over old ground with you again.


disrespectful? who do you think you are?
you did not answer my questions, you deflected with weasel words

such weasel words that actually implicated you more in the lie when you referred to previous multis I never had

do you deny this or not?
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ricecrackers wrote:
paladisious wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
paladisious wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
you're avoiding the questions by deflecting and being vague

its quite simple. why do you make it complicated? why, because you're cornered.


Answering a multi point rebuttal with a single accusation, and that actual accusation is that I'm the one being vague?



you cannot rebut without answering direct YES or NO questions
stay on point. you continue to deflect because you know you're cornered

I already answered your direct "YES or NO" questions.

You're ignoring my answers to you that I took time to write, it's very disrespectful.

I won't go over old ground with you again.


disrespectful? who do you think you are?
you did not answer my questions, you deflected with weasel words

such weasel words that actually implicated you more in the lie when you referred to previous multis I never had

do you deny this or not?


Already answered your questions regarding my opinion if you had a multi or not, and I also said I was willing to not go after you for it.

You went after me, ignored my answers to you, which is spam, and continued to make ad hominem attacks on me and my legitimacy as a mod, which is why I'll give you what you want.

Goodbye.
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Oh Hai. I was just strolling past your establishment in a totally unexpected and not in any way orchestrated fashion when I heard you discussing climate change. I my self am very interested in this topic and have read all papers associated with it from reputable news agencies such as Popular Technology.

I am taken aback by the attacks I have witnessed on two members of the climate forum. The attacks on Poptech who I am totally not associated or the same person are horrible. As well as the slander on one Rice Crackers the third.

As a practicing litigator in online forum mitigation I can assure you that what the moderator Paladisious has stated is in fact slander under common law and he is liable to that end.

I have included a link to the definition of the law from a website I totally have no vested control or interest in, but have based all my evidence on. www.nigerianlawcenter/onlinelaws/defamation

See you in court Mr Paladisious.
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I'll add my unsolicited opinion on this.

Crackers has been dealt a dud hand here.

I've had run ins with Crackers many times in the past and I'm no fan but in this instance there's a line up of blokes lobbing in and putting the boot in for no good reason. Playing the man and not the ball so to speak which, as I've been told, is not per the forum rules.

There needs to be some consistency. Multis for instance which Crackers has been accused of creating.

There's half a dozen on the forum that the mods know full well who they are but because they're part of the little clique and groupthink they're allowed to wander around at will.

And before you attack the messenger go back a few pages and have a look at some of the vitriol on display from peanuts who add absolutely nothing of value. I'm looking at you MV ARSE amongst others.




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paladisious wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
paladisious wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
paladisious wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
you're avoiding the questions by deflecting and being vague

its quite simple. why do you make it complicated? why, because you're cornered.


Answering a multi point rebuttal with a single accusation, and that actual accusation is that I'm the one being vague?



you cannot rebut without answering direct YES or NO questions
stay on point. you continue to deflect because you know you're cornered

I already answered your direct "YES or NO" questions.

You're ignoring my answers to you that I took time to write, it's very disrespectful.

I won't go over old ground with you again.


disrespectful? who do you think you are?
you did not answer my questions, you deflected with weasel words

such weasel words that actually implicated you more in the lie when you referred to previous multis I never had

do you deny this or not?


Already answered your questions regarding my opinion if you had a multi or not, and I also said I was willing to not go after you for it.

You went after me, ignored my answers to you, which is spam, and continued to make ad hominem attacks on me and my legitimacy as a mod, which is why I'll give you what you want.

Goodbye.


Ridiculous. Disagreements shouldn't end in bans.




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Munrubenmuz wrote:
Ridiculous. Disagreements shouldn't end in bans.

I'd rather I didn't have to do it myself, I'm always against over moderation, but I was answering his questions over and again but he was still attacking me regardless; it had to end somewhere.

It's only a short one for him to cool off, I'm sure he'll be back to his old Ricey self in no time.

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paladisious wrote:
Munrubenmuz wrote:
Ridiculous. Disagreements shouldn't end in bans.

I'd rather I didn't have to do it myself, I'm always against over moderation, but I was answering his questions over and again but he was still attacking me regardless; it had to end somewhere.

It's only a short one for him to cool off, I'm sure he'll be back to his old Ricey self in no time.

I'll admit that ricecrackers used to annoy me as he'd derail lots of good threads with deflections, ad hominem attacks and actually not offering anything to the discussion. Back then if I was a mod I would have permabanned him ages ago. Credit to the mods for being so patient and I've grown to really enjoy his quirks. Get well soon ricey, until we meet again...

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